James Few >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia James Few was born in 1746 in Hartford (present-day Baltimore) County, Maryland. His parents were William Few, Sr., and Mary Wheeler (James was their second-oldest son). James migrated with his parents and siblings to Orange County, North Carolina circa 1758. Circa 1770, James married Sarah Wood in Orange County, North Carolina. They had twins, William and Sarah, who were born February 9, 1771. James may have been a carpenter, but so far no primary source documents have come to light to prove that he was or that mentions his occupation. James was executed west of Hillsborough, North Carolina on May 17, 1771], after taking part in the Battle of Alamance. He was executed by North Carolina militia troops while they were serving under North Carolina's royal Governor, William Tryon. James was hanged at the militia's camp approximately five miles northeast of the Alamance battlefield (as described by William Tryon in his orders book). His children moved to Georgia with their grandparents after his death; his wife Sarah later remarried (a Loyalist officer) and moved to Greenwood County, South Carolina. It is unknown what happened to his body after he was executed; either his family members retrieved it (it took about one day to get to the campsite from their home east of Hillsborough at that time; the campsite was directly on the public road from Hillsborough to Salisbury, North Carolina, just after the ford over Great Alamance Creek) or he was unceremoniously buried at the campsite in an unmarked grave nearby by the militia troops that hanged him. According to historical rumors, James's "fiancée" was seduced by Edmund Fanning, and James was the "sole support of his widowed mother." However, James was already married (to Sarah Wood) and had twins by her (William and Sarah), and his then 60 or 61 year-old mother lived with his father, William (who didn't pass away until 1794) on their farm near Hillsborough. ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

According to the following link by Dewitt, the six Regulators who were released and signed the oath were: "Six of the men were pardoned at Tryon's behest: Forest Mercer, James Stewart, James Emerson, Hermon Cox, William Brown, and James Copeland." http://www.tamu.edu/ccbn/dewitt/mckstmerreg2.htm#procmay31 Linda Monticelli -----Original Message----- From: Steve O'Neal <steveoneal_66@yahoo.com> To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 8:08 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Check out executions in NC 1726-1961 Regarding the list of those executed in North Carolina 1726-1961: Number’s 88 thru 93 on the list are the 6 Regulators that were hanged by overnor Tryon on June 19, 1771. Twelve regulators had been captured in May of 771 at Almanace, and all were given an opportuntiy to be set free by signing an ath of allegience to the King of England and renouncing their actions ssociated with the Regulator movement. Six of these men signed and were set free. The men in the #88 thru #93 spot n this list refused, and were hanged for treason without benefit of trial. #88 – Benjamin Merrill (Merrell), of the Jersey Settlement near Salisbury, owan County #89 – James Pugh, lived in Orange or Guilford County Much has been written on these two men. #90 – Messer This is Captain Robert Messer. Messer was scheduled to be hanged a few days rior to the June 19th date, but his hanging was delayed a few days after the ntercession of his son Christian Messer. Messer has descendants living in North Carolina today, some near Haywood, NC. #91 – Matter This is Robert Matear. Reportedly, this Robert Matear (Mateer, Mater) had ot participated with the North Carolina Regulators in any of the acts for which hey were being punished. Supposedly, he hadn’t even joined the Regulator movement at all, but ather, was caught up in the whole affair in 1771, as he had been asked to carry letter from Governor Tryon back to Alexander Martin in Salisbury from New ern. Matear had been in New Bern because he had transported a load of fruit o market there and since he was returning to Rowan County, he was asked to arry a letter regarding the Regulator “troubles” to Martin. Matear opened the etter and instead of delivering it to Martin, delivered it to a friend in Rowan ounty who was sympathetic to the Regulators. Word of this action got it, ealing Matear's fate when . . . On May 16, 1791, while Tryon and a militia force that had been mustered upon ryon’s command to go after the Regulators were in Orange County, Matear was etained there along with Robert Thompson. Matear was hanged with the rest, as o trial was ever held for him to plead his case that wasn’t even an active ember of the Regulators. #92 – Unknown Regulator #93 – Unknown Regulator Does anyone know of any solid work that has been done to attempt to determine he identity of the Six Regulators who signed the oath and were set free or who he identity of the other two who were hanged are? I have a complete list of the 12 men who Tryon had earlier ( in 1768 ), xcluded from the list of the Regulators that he pardoned after arrests had been ade in that year if anyone is interested in it. - Steve EW4010@aol.com wrote: _http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/execution/NO%20CAROLINA.htm_ (http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/execution/NO%20CAROLINA.htm) This kind of relates to Betty Pace's post *************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 8) ------------------------------- o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message Steve O'Neal teveoneal_66@yahoo.com -------------------------------- ooking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

Although there are no executions on this list for May of 1771, it is reported that James Few was hanged "on the battlefield" the day after the battle of Almanace on May 17, 1771. This leads me to believe that there likely are two additional (besides Few) unknown men that were hanged on June 19, 1771. " . . . driven to madness, he [Few] joined the Regulators, was taken prisoner, and was hung on the night after the battle, without trial, and without witnessing friends" per: 1. Sketches of North Carolina, Foot, pp 61-62 2. The Pictoral Field Book of the Revolution, Benson Jon Lossing, pp 371 rlmlfm@aol.com wrote: James Few >From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia James Few was born in 1746 in Hartford (present-day Baltimore) County, Maryland. His parents were William Few, Sr., and Mary Wheeler (James was their second-oldest son). James migrated with his parents and siblings to Orange County, North Carolina circa 1758. Circa 1770, James married Sarah Wood in Orange County, North Carolina. They had twins, William and Sarah, who were born February 9, 1771. James may have been a carpenter, but so far no primary source documents have come to light to prove that he was or that mentions his occupation. James was executed west of Hillsborough, North Carolina on May 17, 1771], after taking part in the Battle of Alamance. He was executed by North Carolina militia troops while they were serving under North Carolina's royal Governor, William Tryon. James was hanged at the militia's camp approximately five miles northeast of the Alamance battlefield (as described by William Tryon in his orders book). His children moved to Georgia with their grandparents after his death; his wife Sarah later remarried (a Loyalist officer) and moved to Greenwood County, South Carolina. It is unknown what happened to his body after he was executed; either his family members retrieved it (it took about one day to get to the campsite from their home east of Hillsborough at that time; the campsite was directly on the public road from Hillsborough to Salisbury, North Carolina, just after the ford over Great Alamance Creek) or he was unceremoniously buried at the campsite in an unmarked grave nearby by the militia troops that hanged him. According to historical rumors, James's "fiancée" was seduced by Edmund Fanning, and James was the "sole support of his widowed mother." However, James was already married (to Sarah Wood) and had twins by her (William and Sarah), and his then 60 or 61 year-old mother lived with his father, William (who didn't pass away until 1794) on their farm near Hillsborough. ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Steve O'Neal steveoneal_66@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

In the Spring of 1768, Governor Tryon issued a "proclomation of general pardon" to all of the NC Regulators who had been arrested or charged for various acts, such as Rioting. He excluded from this pardon, 12 individuals who he singled out as leaders of the movement. Those 12 are: James Hunter Ninian Bell Hamilton Peter Craven Isaack Jackson Hermon Husband Matthew Hamilton William Payne Malichi Tyke William Moffat Christopher Nation Solomon Goff John O'Neal AHamptonResearch@aol.com wrote: In a message dated 2/5/2008 7:10:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, steveoneal_66@yahoo.com writes: I have a complete list of the 12 men who Tryon had earlier ( in 1768 ), excluded from the list of the Regulators that he pardoned after arrests had been made in that year if anyone is interested in it. Steve, I'd be interested in the list referenced above. Thank you. Arlene **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Steve O'Neal steveoneal_66@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Yahoo! Mobile. Try it now.

I don't see any fit. My John Holmes was born in 1712 in Gloucester, England and went first to Lower Dublin township in Philadelphia County. He then went to Augusta County, Virginia where his property can be found on the Beverly map. He was then elected sheriff of Anson County. He went from there to Rowan County, North Carolina where he died about 1775. He had sons, William(1736), Richard(1738) and James(1747) and daughters, Jean, Elizabeth, Katharine, Mary and Margaret. His daughter, Katharine married my ancestor, John Milton McCulloch(1741) and they went to Matthews, Mecklenburg County, North Carolina. Their graves can be found in the New Providence churchyard, there, I really know nothing about any other Holmes as I only just acquired information on Katharine's parents. My primary interest is to find out more about their ancestors. I am from Georgia, not Michigan and have only been exiled to this very cold place. James Ann Arbor, MI ----- Original Message ----- From: Art Holmes To: james38@provide.net Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 10:32 AM Subject: John Holmes I saw your posting on the Holmes digest. I do not know of the book, but because you are located in Ann Arbor, I thought you might be related to my John Holmes(1780-1856). He died in Michigan and is buried in Hudson Mills Cemetery, Pinckney Road, Dexter, MI. See my database to see if we may have a fit Art Holmes http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=holmesaw&id=I0075 . ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

I research Hartmans. Can you tell me the connection to Hartmans in the name Michael Hartmam Dillow. I found this dude in the court house in Concord NC. The info was indexed under Hartman instead of Dillow. He is probably no kin to my Hartmans. Just Curious. Buddy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hal McCawley" <halmac@cox.net> To: <mdillow31@verizon.net>; <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Cc: "Landers, Lois" <mtnwoman@getgoin.net> Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 7:47 PM Subject: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records near Mockeville Thanks Marianne. Good stuff. Would you have knowledge of the earliest churches in the Mocksville area where my DETTRO/YOUNG-JUNG/HANCOCK fam resided 1780-1820 era? Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 <HalMac@Cox.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "marianne dillow" <mdillow31@verizon.net> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records I might add that most of Union County, Illinois was settled by Rowan County people. My own lines are Michael Hartman Dillow, Hoshouser, Rinehart. Powles, Hileman, Hoffner and Knupp. Rendleman, Lyerla, Miller, Barringer, Earnhart, Casper, Davis, Eddleman, Treece, Peeler, Trexler, and Clutts are just a few besides my own lines all over Union County, IL. Marianne Dillow janrobison2@aim.com wrote: Just a note here... Organ Church was built first. When Lower Stone was built by the Reformed congregation, it was designed to be just large enough the fit Organ (then Zion) inside it. Jan -----Original Message----- From: rlmlfm@aol.com To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 8:27 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records Hal, The Organ (Zion) Lutheran Church is located south of Salisbury and near the Rowan-Cabarrus County border. I have read that they have records dating back to the early days of this church and these records are all written in German. The original part of the Organ Church building that it is today was built between 1792 and 1795. Pastor Storch was the pastor of Organ Lutheran Church from 1788-1823 and Storch recorded in the church records that in 1774 a group of members began to build the church building. Here are the three earliest, to my knowledge, Lutheran churches in Rowan County. Organ Lutheran Church (est. 1775) 1515 Organ Church Rd Salisbury, NC 28146, US South of Salisbury and near the Rowan-Cabarrus County border St John's Lutheran Church (est. ca. 1772) 200 W Innes St Salisbury, NC 28144 Within the city of Salisbury St Peters Lutheran Church 2570 Saint Peters Church Rd Salisbury, NC 28146 Southeast of the city of Salisbury Linda Monticelli -----Original Message----- From: Hal McCawley To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Cc: Landers, Lois Sent: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 4:56 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records Marla. Where is this Organ Luth Ch located and what era do their rec cover? ere there other Luth ch in 1799s Rowan Co?? est, al McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 HalMac@Cox.net> ---- Original Message ----- rom: o: ; ent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:30 PM ubject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records Marla Goodrich wrote: I have Christoph and Dorothy Rintelmann and Martin Miller who married their daughter Sophia from Rowan Co. 1700's. I have never been able to find where in Germany they were from. I am wondering if the early Organ Lutheran Church records tell where in Germany people were from? In these records are there births, baptisms, marriages and deaths? Is there a way to see these early records. ---------------------------------------- Marla, Following is an article that mentions Christopher Rintelmann and the Organ Lutheran Church in Rowan County that might be of interest: Introduction by Boyd and Krummel Introduction by Boyd and Krummel [Towards the middle of the eighteenth century German immigrants made their appearance in North Carolina. They came from Pennsylvania and settled in the Piedmont region, in the area including the present counties of Forsyth, Guilford, Orange, Alamance, Stanly, Cabarrus, Gaston, Lincoln, Iredell, Stokes, Davie, Davidson and Rowan. Their outstanding characteristics were loyalty to their native language and customs-German being used in the churches for many years,-skill in the industrial arts and agriculture, and a disinclination to participate in politics. Their numbers we do not know, but according to the census of 1790 there were approximately eight thousand. Their religious heritage was German Reformed and Lutheran. They organized and built churches but ministers were few, the only pastors prior to 1773 being of the German Reformed church. Often the members of the two denominations worshipped together and often, also, services were conducted by the laity. With this situation the Lutherans were not satisfied, and in 1772, after unsuccessful efforts to secure pastors and teachers from Pennsylvania, they sent two commissioners to Europe, CHRISTOPHER RENTELMANN, from ORGAN CHURCH, ROWAN County, and CHRISTOPHER LAYRLE of St. John's Church, MECKLENBURG, (now CABARRUS County) to apply for aid to the Consistory of Hanover. Passing through London the commissioners received encouragement from the royal court; a call for aid was issued from the Chapel of St. James and King George III himself made a contribution. From Hanover the Reverend Adolph Nüssmann, formerly a member of the Franciscan Order, was secured as pastor and Gottfried Arend as school master. These worthies arrived in North Carolina in 1773 and located in Orange County. Soon Arend was ordained a minister and took charge of the churches in Rowan, Nüssmann transferring to Mecklenburg (now Cabarrus County). It was the hope of these men and their parishioners to secure further aid from the Consistory of Hanover, but the Revolution interrupted all communication with the fatherland. In 1787, however, effort was made to renew relations; the hope being to secure more pastors and also books for religious and secular instruction. Communication was opened, however, not with the Consistory of Hanover, but with the Reverend Johann Caspar Velthusen, Professor of Theology in the Julius Charles University at Helmstaedt, Duchy of Brunswick, who, as court preacher at London in 1773, had been interested in the missionary movement of that time in behalf of North Carolina. Under his leadership a missionary society was organized to aid the Lutheran churches in North Carolina, and soon additional pastors arrived, Reverend Christopher Bernhardt in 1787, Carl August Storch in 1788, and Reverend Arnold Roshen soon after. However, the aid sought and extended was not confined to the sending of ministers. Text books, lay and religious, were asked for and under the leadership of Velthusen eight text books were prepared and published for use in the Lutheran schools of North Carolina. Thus the Lutheran Church was given a broader foundation and in 1803 the Evangelical Lutheran Synod of North Carolina was formally organized. Concerning these matters the pamphlets here reprinted in translation give much information. They include the four formal reports of the Helmstaedt professors concerning the text books prepared for the youth of North Carolina and also two reports of Nüssmann concerning the status of the Lutheran churches in North Carolina. Space permits only the publication in this issue of the reports on the text books; those concerning the churches will appear in the issue of April 1930.] (Source: http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/hp/colonial/Bookshelf/lutheran/intro.htm) Linda Monticelli ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. 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In a message dated 2/5/2008 7:10:21 P.M. Central Standard Time, steveoneal_66@yahoo.com writes: I have a complete list of the 12 men who Tryon had earlier ( in 1768 ), excluded from the list of the Regulators that he pardoned after arrests had been made in that year if anyone is interested in it. Steve, I'd be interested in the list referenced above. Thank you. Arlene **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

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Wow intersesting thanks for posting Did you notice the burning used for some executions even for women Jeanie _http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/execution/NO%20CAROLINA.htm_ (http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/execution/NO%20CAROLINA.htm) --------------------------------- Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your homepage.

Karon, I have another Luckey will I will be posting as soon as a transcribe it.? It is for a Samuel Luckie of Rowan County, NC.? The will is dated May 31, 1797 and lists wife Ann, sons Robert and Samuel and granddaughter, Peggy.? The will is witnessed by John Hall, William Luckie, Jr. and Robert Luckie.? Don't know who this Samuel Luckie is though.? ~Glinda -----Original Message----- From: Karon <kcks39@yahoo.com> To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 4:16 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Joseph Luckey & wife Esther of Jersey County, IL - Formerly of Rowan County NC Thanks for the tips. I did know about James McGuire and my Joseph Luckey both moving to MO around the same time and living near each other. ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

Regarding the list of those executed in North Carolina 1726-1961: Number’s 88 thru 93 on the list are the 6 Regulators that were hanged by Governor Tryon on June 19, 1771. Twelve regulators had been captured in May of 1771 at Almanace, and all were given an opportuntiy to be set free by signing an oath of allegience to the King of England and renouncing their actions associated with the Regulator movement. Six of these men signed and were set free. The men in the #88 thru #93 spot on this list refused, and were hanged for treason without benefit of trial. #88 – Benjamin Merrill (Merrell), of the Jersey Settlement near Salisbury, Rowan County #89 – James Pugh, lived in Orange or Guilford County Much has been written on these two men. #90 – Messer This is Captain Robert Messer. Messer was scheduled to be hanged a few days prior to the June 19th date, but his hanging was delayed a few days after the intercession of his son Christian Messer. Messer has descendants living in North Carolina today, some near Haywood, NC. #91 – Matter This is Robert Matear. Reportedly, this Robert Matear (Mateer, Mater) had not participated with the North Carolina Regulators in any of the acts for which they were being punished. Supposedly, he hadn’t even joined the Regulator movement at all, but rather, was caught up in the whole affair in 1771, as he had been asked to carry a letter from Governor Tryon back to Alexander Martin in Salisbury from New Bern. Matear had been in New Bern because he had transported a load of fruit to market there and since he was returning to Rowan County, he was asked to carry a letter regarding the Regulator “troubles” to Martin. Matear opened the letter and instead of delivering it to Martin, delivered it to a friend in Rowan County who was sympathetic to the Regulators. Word of this action got it, sealing Matear's fate when . . . On May 16, 1791, while Tryon and a militia force that had been mustered upon Tryon’s command to go after the Regulators were in Orange County, Matear was detained there along with Robert Thompson. Matear was hanged with the rest, as no trial was ever held for him to plead his case that wasn’t even an active member of the Regulators. #92 – Unknown Regulator #93 – Unknown Regulator Does anyone know of any solid work that has been done to attempt to determine the identity of the Six Regulators who signed the oath and were set free or who the identity of the other two who were hanged are? I have a complete list of the 12 men who Tryon had earlier ( in 1768 ), excluded from the list of the Regulators that he pardoned after arrests had been made in that year if anyone is interested in it. - Steve HEW4010@aol.com wrote: _http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/execution/NO%20CAROLINA.htm_ (http://users.bestweb.net/~rg/execution/NO%20CAROLINA.htm) This kind of relates to Betty Pace's post **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Steve O'Neal steveoneal_66@yahoo.com --------------------------------- Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search.

A Robert Luckey died ca 1772, with wife Mary and a daughter named Mary. On 5 Nov 1774 a Mary Luckey married James Reed, bondsman John Hagins. On 5 Nov 1779 a Mary Luckey married a John Hagins, bondsman John Hagin. Can anyone tell me more about this group? I would guess that the first record is for the widow of Robert Luckey and the second record is for Robert and Mary Luckey's daughter and John Hagins son. But that's purely guess work. I'm a Hagans/Hagins researcher and our Hagan DNA group is discovering some interesting matches. On the 1778 tax list for Capt. Richard Graham's district is John Hagans/Hagins (1722-1816). He lived in the Irish Settlement and is buried at Thyatira. Note that this is contrary to Carolina Cradle. Ramsey thought that this was John Huggins, but the probate records cleared this up. There is a James Reed Sr. in the area that became Davie Co. (Capt. Johnston's district) in 1778. Also on that list is John Hagins, Jno Hagins, and Thomas Hagan(s). One of these Johns was probably the one who went on to Wilkes Co., NC during the American Revolution. The descendants of that John Hagins match the DNA of the descendants of Thomas Hagans. I am hoping to hear from someone who researches the Luckey or Reed families to help me sort out the John Hagins in these records. Pat Hagan Frunzi Fallsington, PA

Thanks Marianne. Good stuff. Would you have knowledge of the earliest churches in the Mocksville area where my DETTRO/YOUNG-JUNG/HANCOCK fam resided 1780-1820 era? Best, Hal McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 <HalMac@Cox.net> ----- Original Message ----- From: "marianne dillow" <mdillow31@verizon.net> To: <rowanroots@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 6:13 PM Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records I might add that most of Union County, Illinois was settled by Rowan County people. My own lines are Michael Hartman Dillow, Hoshouser, Rinehart. Powles, Hileman, Hoffner and Knupp. Rendleman, Lyerla, Miller, Barringer, Earnhart, Casper, Davis, Eddleman, Treece, Peeler, Trexler, and Clutts are just a few besides my own lines all over Union County, IL. Marianne Dillow janrobison2@aim.com wrote: Just a note here... Organ Church was built first. When Lower Stone was built by the Reformed congregation, it was designed to be just large enough the fit Organ (then Zion) inside it. Jan -----Original Message----- From: rlmlfm@aol.com To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 8:27 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records Hal, The Organ (Zion) Lutheran Church is located south of Salisbury and near the Rowan-Cabarrus County border. I have read that they have records dating back to the early days of this church and these records are all written in German. The original part of the Organ Church building that it is today was built between 1792 and 1795. Pastor Storch was the pastor of Organ Lutheran Church from 1788-1823 and Storch recorded in the church records that in 1774 a group of members began to build the church building. Here are the three earliest, to my knowledge, Lutheran churches in Rowan County. Organ Lutheran Church (est. 1775) 1515 Organ Church Rd Salisbury, NC 28146, US South of Salisbury and near the Rowan-Cabarrus County border St John's Lutheran Church (est. ca. 1772) 200 W Innes St Salisbury, NC 28144 Within the city of Salisbury St Peters Lutheran Church 2570 Saint Peters Church Rd Salisbury, NC 28146 Southeast of the city of Salisbury Linda Monticelli -----Original Message----- From: Hal McCawley To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Cc: Landers, Lois Sent: Sat, 2 Feb 2008 4:56 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records Marla. Where is this Organ Luth Ch located and what era do their rec cover? ere there other Luth ch in 1799s Rowan Co?? est, al McCawley 4178 Pindar Way, Oceanside, CA 92056 760.941.4716 HalMac@Cox.net> ---- Original Message ----- rom: o: ; ent: Friday, February 01, 2008 2:30 PM ubject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] [NCROWAN] Lutheran records Marla Goodrich wrote: I have Christoph and Dorothy Rintelmann and Martin Miller who married their daughter Sophia from Rowan Co. 1700's. I have never been able to find where in Germany they were from. I am wondering if the early Organ Lutheran Church records tell where in Germany people were from? In these records are there births, baptisms, marriages and deaths? Is there a way to see these early records. ---------------------------------------- Marla, Following is an article that mentions Christopher Rintelmann and the Organ Lutheran Church in Rowan County that might be of interest: Introduction by Boyd and Krummel Introduction by Boyd and Krummel [Towards the middle of the eighteenth century German immigrants made their appearance in North Carolina. They came from Pennsylvania and settled in the Piedmont region, in the area including the present counties of Forsyth, Guilford, Orange, Alamance, Stanly, Cabarrus, Gaston, Lincoln, Iredell, Stokes, Davie, Davidson and Rowan. Their outstanding characteristics were loyalty to their native language and customs-German being used in the churches for many years,-skill in the industrial arts and agriculture, and a disinclination to participate in politics. Their numbers we do not know, but according to the census of 1790 there were approximately eight thousand. Their religious heritage was German Reformed and Lutheran. They organized and built churches but ministers were few, the only pastors prior to 1773 being of the German Reformed church. Often the members of the two denominations worshipped together and often, also, services were conducted by the laity. With this situation the Lutherans were not satisfied, and in 1772, after unsuccessful efforts to secure pastors and teachers from Pennsylvania, they sent two commissioners to Europe, CHRISTOPHER RENTELMANN, from ORGAN CHURCH, ROWAN County, and CHRISTOPHER LAYRLE of St. John's Church, MECKLENBURG, (now CABARRUS County) to apply for aid to the Consistory of Hanover. Passing through London the commissioners received encouragement from the royal court; a call for aid was issued from the Chapel of St. James and King George III himself made a contribution. From Hanover the Reverend Adolph Nüssmann, formerly a member of the Franciscan Order, was secured as pastor and Gottfried Arend as school master. These worthies arrived in North Carolina in 1773 and located in Orange County. Soon Arend was ordained a minister and took charge of the churches in Rowan, Nüssmann transferring to Mecklenburg (now Cabarrus County). It was the hope of these men and their parishioners to secure further aid from the Consistory of Hanover, but the Revolution interrupted all communication with the fatherland. In 1787, however, effort was made to renew relations; the hope being to secure more pastors and also books for religious and secular instruction. Communication was opened, however, not with the Consistory of Hanover, but with the Reverend Johann Caspar Velthusen, Professor of Theology in the Julius Charles University at Helmstaedt, Duchy of Brunswick, who, as court preacher at London in 1773, had been interested in the missionary movement of that time in behalf of North Carolina. Under his leadership a missionary society was organized to aid the Lutheran churches in North Carolina, and soon additional pastors arrived, Reverend Christopher Bernhardt in 1787, Carl August Storch in 1788, and Reverend Arnold Roshen soon after. However, the aid sought and extended was not confined to the sending of ministers. Text books, lay and religious, were asked for and under the leadership of Velthusen eight text books were prepared and published for use in the Lutheran schools of North Carolina. Thus the Lutheran Church was given a broader foundation and in 1803 the Evangelical Lutheran Synod of North Carolina was formally organized. Concerning these matters the pamphlets here reprinted in translation give much information. They include the four formal reports of the Helmstaedt professors concerning the text books prepared for the youth of North Carolina and also two reports of Nüssmann concerning the status of the Lutheran churches in North Carolina. Space permits only the publication in this issue of the reports on the text books; those concerning the churches will appear in the issue of April 1930.] (Source: http://www.ah.dcr.state.nc.us/sections/hp/colonial/Bookshelf/lutheran/intro.htm) Linda Monticelli ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.19/1256 - Release Date: 2/2/2008 1:50 PM

In case you have ever wondered why African-American families are so sensitive about the symbol of the noose, you should take a look at a book I recently got through inter-library loan. I saw it reviewed on C-Span and found that my local library had it but it was missing. The book is a series of 98 plates of lynchings in the very late 19th and early 20th century in many sections of the U.S. I did not look at all of the plates but instead read through the description/location of the plates at the rear of the book. I was looking for North Carolina lynchings in particular since I remembered my grandmother revealing that she had known of a lynching in Salisbury, NC in her young adult years (she was born in 1879). Strangely I only found two plates in NC--one in Salisbury in 1906 and another in Goldsboro, NC in 1916. Of course, many of the plates are from unknown times/locations but are similar to the identified photos in that they were saved in their times by being preserved as lithographs on postcards, many of them with post marks to argue that they had actually been sent through the U.S. mail. The horror of these historic photos is that the individuals who were hanged were most often snatched from jails where they were awaiting trial for some offense--vigilante parties couldn't wait for justice but mindlessly acted on accusations only; local law enforcement even enabled the lynchings on occasion. On-lookers (often children) and vigilantes most often didn't hide their faces. The photos in the book represent mostly locations in the South, Middle West, and West, often as far as California. Not one was from the New England section of our country. The latest photo was in the early 1940s. Even some women were lynched. This must be the one my grandmother hinted at: Plate 12: "The lynching of five African American males--Nease Gillepsie, John Gillepsie, "Jack" Dillingham, Henry Lee, and George Irvin--with onlookers shown in the photo. August 6, 1906, Salisbury, NC. Lithographed photo postcard. Printed on border: Nease and John Gillespie and Jack Dillingham, murders of Lyerly family. A mob numbering in the thousands wrenched five black men from the civil authorities of Salisbury on the night of August 6th. They accused the men of murdering members of a local family named Lyerly. The New York Times reported that the five men were tortured with knives before being hanged and then riddled with bullets. The authorities in NC, alarmed at the scope of the mob violence, took unusual steps to punish its leaders. After the governor ordered the National Guard to restore order, local officials arrested more than two dozen suspected leaders. One of the killers (George Hall) was convicted and sentenced to 15 years hard labor in the state penitentiary. It is felt that Gov. Glenn was not helped in his political prospects. Plate 20: John Richards hanging on a tree, jubilant lynchers, a freshly hewn pine coffin. January 12, 1916, Goldsboro, NC. Early on the cold morning of January 12, 1916, a masked mob of some 200 dragged John Richards from his jail cell in Wayne Co. NC. He was accused of the murder of a local farmed named Anderson Gurley. According to newspaper accounts, he was taken to the scene of Gurley's murder and hanged. He appears to have been castrated and cut to pieces by gunfire. A sad commentary on our past. WITHOUT SANCTUARY: LYNCHING PHOTOGRAPHY IN AMERICA Ed. James Allen, Hilton Als, John Lewis, Leon F. Litwack Photos/Postcards in Allen/Littlefield Collections Dept., Robert W. Woodruff Library Emory University Twin Palms Publishers , Sante Fe, NM Pub. 2000 ISBN - 0-944092-69-1 Betty Pace

Hi Karon, I found this bio in the Jersey County, IL gen page.? They list a Jane Luckey who married a John Davis? in 1829(both natives of Rowan Co NC).? It says they moved to Missouri (where your Samuel Luckey was born) then moved to Jersey County, IL.? This Jane Luckey might be a sister to your Joseph Luckey and aunt to Samuel Luckey.? If you can find a person directly related to Jane Luckey, they might be able to give you more clues about this family.? Here's the link.? http://www.rootsweb.com/~iljersey/OS/OS-DG.htm#DAVISJ I don't know if you know this but James McGuire, Jr. - son of James Sr. and Eleanor Luckey moved from NC to MO to Jersey County, IL.? His biography is listed in the web page too.? Your Joseph Luckey and James McGuire, Jr. might have moved in the same circles - they both moved to Jersey County IL in the 1830's. You probably have this.? The web page has Joseph Luckey's wife's cemetery record as "Esther Luckey April 20, 1803-February 20, 1883" ~Glinda ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com

Thanks for the info. Karon "Your mind will answer most questions if you learn to relax and wait for the answer". ~ William S. Burroughs Dyer - Willson - Luckey - Scoville -----Original Message----- From: rowanroots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rowanroots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of rlmlfm@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:23 PM To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Edward McGuire Will - Rowan County, NC - Husband of Isabelle... Here are the McGuire's and Luckey's listed as owning taxable property?in Captain Reed's District on the 1778 Rowan County Tax List: 1778 Rowan County, NC Tax List Captain Reed's District: James McGuire Richard McGuire John McGuire Samuel Luckey Robert Luckey --------------------------------------- Here are two Luckey/Luckie will abstracts of Rowan County: 1772 Robert Luckie lists Mary (wife), Margaret, Mary, Rachel, Janet, Hannah, Martha, and Lydia. 1789 John Luckey lists James, Robert, George, Mary, Isabella, and Jean. Linda Monticelli -----Original Message----- From: Karon <kcks39@yahoo.com> To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 2:47 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Edward McGuire Will - Rowan County, NC - Husband of Isabelle... I am researching the Luckey family and love all of the actively on this list. Many of the items discussed have had to do with my line also. My Luckey line has been my brick wall line and this has been very helpful, especially the will of Samuel Luckey. If I can just tie that Samuel to my Joseph Luckey it would be wonderful. That's for all the information on this list. Karon "Your mind will answer most questions if you learn to relax and wait for the answer". ~ William S. Burroughs Dyer - Willson - Luckey - Scoville -----Original Message----- From: rowanroots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rowanroots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gdvedmonds@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 11:29 AM To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Edward McGuire Will - Rowan County, NC - Husband of Isabelle... Hi Linda, Thank you for this great clue.? If these people lived in the same district, Isabelle's last name does point to "Strange".? It would be great to find a will or a deed listing Isabelle McGuire.? Debra do you have access to Abstracts of Deed Books for Rowan NC?? Maybe we can look in the books and find Isabella's father leaving her something.? Several of Edward McGuire's daughters married a "Smith" - Hannah married John Smith, Sarah married George Smith, and Rachael married Philip Smith. Thanks again. ~Glinda -----Original Message----- From: rlmlfm@aol.com To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 12:53 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Edward McGuire Will - Rowan County, NC - Husband of Isabelle... Glinda and Debra, Here is some information that might help you in finding out what Edward McGuire's wife Isabel's maiden name was, was she Isabel Luckey or Isabel Strange? The 1778 Rowan County, NC Tax List for Captain Morris District, East side of Yadkin (River) shows the following people (among many others) as?owning taxable property in this area: ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know the exact date of either but I can give you a range. He would have been born sometime around 1800 in Rowan County NC. He was living in MO in 1830 with Ester and oldest son Samuel. He bought some land in IL in Jan. 1840... Somehow they seam to have lost all of the microfilm rolls of the 1840 census for Jersey County. I am been trying to find them for about 8 years. In 1850 Joseph is going and his wife Ester and kids are living in Jersey County IL. I am not sure where she was born but I think it would have been in Rowan NC. She died on 20 Feb 1883 and is buried in Jersey County, IL. This is my brick wall family so I would love any and all help I can get. Thank you!!! Karon "Your mind will answer most questions if you learn to relax and wait for the answer". ~ William S. Burroughs Dyer - Willson - Luckey - Scoville -----Original Message----- From: rowanroots-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:rowanroots-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of gdvedmonds@aol.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2008 12:25 PM To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Edward McGuire Will - Rowan County, NC - Husband of Isabelle... Hi Karon, What is the birth and death year for your Joseph Luckey?? Also, do you know the name of his spouse?? Next time I go to my genealogy library in the city, I can do a lookup for you if you would like. ~Glinda -----Original Message----- From: Karon <kcks39@yahoo.com> To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 1:47 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Edward McGuire Will - Rowan County, NC - Husband of Isabelle... My Luckey line has been my brick wall line and this has been very helpful, especially the will of Samuel Luckey. If I can just tie that Samuel to my Joseph Luckey it would be wonderful. ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROWANROOTS-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 2/5/2008 2:31:52 PM Eastern Standard Time, gdvedmonds@aol.com writes: Thank you for this great clue.? If these people lived in the same district, Isabelle's last name does point to "Strange".? It would be great to find a will or a deed listing Isabelle McGuire.? Debra do you have access to Abstracts of Deed Books for Rowan NC?? Maybe we can look in the books and find Isabella's father leaving her something.? Several of Edward McGuire's daughters married a "Smith" - Hannah married John Smith, Sarah married George Smith, and Rachael married Philip Smith. Thanks again. No i donnot have access to them.I think my Strang left Rowan and moved ?? Debra Maddox Wilson Greenback,Tn **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

Linda,Thanks.I cannot find much on my Strange family Debra Maddox Wilson Greenback,Tn **************Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time on AOL Music. (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?NCID=aolcmp003000000025 48)

Hi Karon, What is the birth and death year for your Joseph Luckey?? Also, do you know the name of his spouse?? Next time I go to my genealogy library in the city, I can do a lookup for you if you would like. ~Glinda -----Original Message----- From: Karon <kcks39@yahoo.com> To: rowanroots@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 5 Feb 2008 1:47 pm Subject: Re: [ROWANROOTS] Edward McGuire Will - Rowan County, NC - Husband of Isabelle... My Luckey line has been my brick wall line and this has been very helpful, especially the will of Samuel Luckey. If I can just tie that Samuel to my Joseph Luckey it would be wonderful. ________________________________________________________________________ More new features than ever. Check out the new AOL Mail ! - http://webmail.aol.com