I found this online and copied it but this isn't my Jeremiah, does anyone want/need this info?: This file was contributed for use in the USGenWeb Archives by: William R. Navey genealogy1@ancestry.com ============================================================ MUSTER ROLLS SOLDIERS OF THE WAR OF 1812 DETACHED FROM THE MILITIA OF NORTH CAROLINA 1812 AND 1814 PUBLISHED IN PURSUANCE OF THE RESOLUTIONS OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF JANUARY 28, 1851 AND THE RESOLUTION OF THE GENERAL ASSEMBLY OF FEBRUARY 29, 1871. UNDER THE DIRECTION OF THE ADJUTANT GENERAL RALEIGH STONE AND UZZELL STATE PRINTERS AND BINDERS 1873 COPIED AND INDEXED BY: WILLIAM R. NAVEY P. O. BOX 251 HOLLY RIDGE, NC 28445-0251 910 329-9191 MUSTER ROLL OF THE DETACHED MILITIA ORGANIZED IN AUGUST, 1814 GENERAL OFFICERS DESIGNATED TO COMMAND IN THIS DETACHMENT OF MILITIA. MONTFORD STOKES MAJOR GENERAL JEREMIAH SLADE BRIGADIER GENERAL JESS A. PEARSON BRIGADIER GENERAL FIFTH REGIMENT OF CASWELL, GUILFORD, ROCKINGHAM, STOKES, SURRY, WILKES, ASHE AND RANDOLPH. OFFICERS: ALEXANDER MURPHY LIEUTENANT COLONEL COMMANDANT SAMUEL HUNTER LIEUTENANT COLONEL JAMES CAMPBELL FIRST MAJOR JOSEPH WINSTON JR. SECOND MAJOR FIFTH REGIMENT STOKES COUNTY FIRST REGIMENT SAM. MARTIN CAPTAIN THOS. SMITH LIEUTENANT NEWTON LADD ENSIGN ELIJAH NELSON THOMAS EVANS JACOB NELSON JOHN HARVEY JEREMIAH CLOUD JOHN HOOVER (information from online site: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/ifetch2?/u1/data/nc+index+309333042292+F) If this is the Jeremiah Cloud I'm looking for, he's too young .MY Jeremiah was b. abt 1720 so he'd be too old for this Jeremiah(War of 1812-1720=92!!)...even his son (Jr) would have been too old(abt 1750-abt 1783...Grandson?Cousin?) ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.

There is a neat document for sale on eBay concerning Rowan County! This is the description of it: "1784 Rowan County NC Arrest Warrant, I can't make out much of the handwritten part, it is done in Old English Spelling, but I can make out "damages ten pounds". The doucument is on rag paper and filled out in brown ink. There are some varmint nibbles around the edges, but it is sound and suitable for framing. 6" x 8"." The scan of it is a little blurry, but I can make out the names: BENJAMIN HYDE, JAMES CARRIGAN and D. OSBORN Here's the URL: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=175010339 It only has 1 day and 4 hours to go before the auction is over (Ends 10/10/99, 12:06:08 PDT), and so far the price is only $10.50!! I was hoping someone on the list is descended from these people!!

Thanks Jo, I have all the LENTZ information I need thanks to John Paul Lentz book "LENTZ HERITAGE". Excellent book. You'll find the Brethren website in the message from Catherine Leinbach. Richard. Jo wrote: > Richard, I have a few Lentz people in my database, anyone I can > help you with(these are from Rowan Co.only) Reading your remarks > about the Brethren Website, what is the address??? Joyce Koontz > in Rowan Co > -----Original Message----- > From: Richard Lentz <rlentz@gate.net> > To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 9:03 PM > Subject: Re: Brethren Website > > >Jeff Leinbach, > >You mentioned in a recent message of finding your CRIPE family > at the Brethren > >web page. Could the name also be KRITE/CRITE/CRIGHT or a > variant. > >I'm looking for KRITE, and there just aren't many out there. > >Richard. > > > >JEFF LEINBACH wrote: > > > >> Many thanks to you for posting the Brethren Website. I joined > the list and > >> searched through back files and found I am related to a lot of > the people > >> being discussed on the list. > >> > >> I wasn't searching the Brethren because I have been looking in > nothing but > >> Moravian. > >> > >> The Brethren are also refered to as Tunkards or Dunkards or > German Baptist. > >> > >> They also discuss the Reformed church on this site. > >> > >> If you had not sent this to the Rowan List I would never have > found my > >> Cripe family so easly. Thanks for sharing. > >> > >> Happy Hunting > >> Catherine Leinbach > >> > >> ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > >> Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > >> Visit the RowanRoots-L web page: > >> http://www.aa.net/~jdcoates/list/rowanroots-l.htm > > > > > >==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > >Have you joined the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > >Cooperative yet? > > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > > >

Thanks Catherine for the info and the site. I'm tracing George KRITE back from Union Co, Ill to Rowan Co. He is on the 1810 census. I believe his father to have been Michael KRITE, and he was listed on the Rowan 1790 census. I do have some of his land records. That's all I know to date. Richard. JEFF LEINBACH wrote: > This is the site. > > http://www.cob-net.org/genhis.htm > > Then I joined the Brethren-L@rootsweb.com > > This has some really nice people on this list. > > Do you think your people were Dunkard or Tunkards or Brethern? > > This is another German Religious sect like the Morvanians. > > You can join the list and ask if there is anyone there that is searching the > name Krites it sounds like it could be close to Cripe. > They were from PA and moved to Indiana. > > What persons are you looking for? Where were they from and what dates? > > I will see what I have or what I can find for you. > > Happy Hunting > Catherine Leinbach > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > Name: Brethren History & Genealogy.url > Brethren History & Genealogy.url Type: Internet Shortcut (application/x-unknown-content-type-InternetShortcut) > Encoding: 7bit

At 06:19 PM 10/8/99 -0400, gerri ann lockman wrote: >Could someone tell me if Feree and Ferebee are two different families >please? I think they are , just not sure. Peter Ferebee was Exec. for the >will of Abraham Hall, 1835. I see the Feree a lot but not Ferebee. Thanks,,, >Gerri Ann gal@naxs.net I would think so. I don't know where the surname "Ferebee" comes from, but it may have something to do with the 18th century popular girl's name "Ferebee" (sometimes "Pheriba"). "Feree" is probably a variant spelling of "Ferry", which shows up as a French Protestant name in 1600s France. (I don't know if it's technically Huguenot.) A minister named Paul Ferry was a friend of the prominent Catholic priest, Father Bossuet. Elizabeth Whitaker

Could someone tell me if Feree and Ferebee are two different families please? I think they are , just not sure. Peter Ferebee was Exec. for the will of Abraham Hall, 1835. I see the Feree a lot but not Ferebee. Thanks,,, Gerri Ann gal@naxs.net

An excellent article 'Dunker Beginnings in North Carolina in the Eighteenth Century' by Roger E. Sappington appeared in "The North Carolina Historical Review", Summer Issue 1969, pp. 214-238. This Journal can be found at NC State Archives, Raleigh, NC. The minister may have been Jacob Stutzman, referred to in the marriage record. There were five probable settlements of Dunkers. "Evidently this sect kept relatively few records and not all of those have been preserved. Consequently, for the colonies of Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina, almost nothing recorded by the Dunkers themselves has survived for the use of the historian. Any account of the Dunkers in North Carolina, therefore, will rely entirely on what other people knew and observed about them. This factor explains trhe inability of the historian to present anything like a connected narrative account of these people." Jacob Stutzman, purchased land in both Rowan & Randolph counties, NC. This article identifies the congregations as: (1) The Ewarry [probably Uwharrie] congregation, Jacob Stutzman, minister. (2) The Yadkin congregation led by the Kerns and Hendricks family. (3) The Dutchman's Creek settlement lead by the Hendrickses and the Rowlands. (4) The Fraternity congregation of which Burkhart and Faw were leaders and (5) the Ashe County (Flat Rock) congregation, led by Rowland, Bauer and Miller. "The Dunkers in NC...did not build any meetinghouses, as they preferred to call their churches. The exant records reveal that the earliest Dunker meetinghouse in NC was constructed in 1852 in the mountains of what is today Mitchell County." Another excellent source for Dunkard history in NC in the past has been John Scott Davenport, who resided in Utah and/or New Mexico. He prepared an article for the "Brethen Life and Thought" a quarterly Journal Volume XXII, Winter 1977. Hope this helps. BL Brown

Jeff Leinbach, You mentioned in a recent message of finding your CRIPE family at the Brethren web page. Could the name also be KRITE/CRITE/CRIGHT or a variant. I'm looking for KRITE, and there just aren't many out there. Richard. JEFF LEINBACH wrote: > Many thanks to you for posting the Brethren Website. I joined the list and > searched through back files and found I am related to a lot of the people > being discussed on the list. > > I wasn't searching the Brethren because I have been looking in nothing but > Moravian. > > The Brethren are also refered to as Tunkards or Dunkards or German Baptist. > > They also discuss the Reformed church on this site. > > If you had not sent this to the Rowan List I would never have found my > Cripe family so easly. Thanks for sharing. > > Happy Hunting > Catherine Leinbach > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit the RowanRoots-L web page: > http://www.aa.net/~jdcoates/list/rowanroots-l.htm

Yes, of course, Rick. I had it backwards. I wasn't thinking from the English clerk point-of-view. Jean K.

At 06:47 PM 10/6/99 -0600, Fredric Z Saunders wrote: >The name would sound like feh-leer only if actually physically written by the German testator himself. If you make the assumption that the will, presumably written in English, was written by English clerk, then then when a German pronounced the name Weller to the the attorney who wrote out the will, it would, as you note, sound more like "Velir," the name written in the will. I wonder if it wasn't supposed to be "Walter" and the clerk or whoever wrote the will didn't cross the "t". I've seen a lot of very *strange* handwriting while going through genealogical records. Elizabeth Whitaker

Am researching,Peter Davis, b ca 1778,Old Rowan Co,maybe Davidson Co,NC.He married Elizabeth Sutley,Rowan co.Had a son,Wm b 1825,and a daughter,Margaret.They migrated to Union Co,IL before 1830.Earlier,Edward & Anna Knupp Davis,and George and Catherine Trexler Davis,also went to Union Co,Il.Since the 1818-1840 migration from Rowan to Union Co,Il,there was little other families to Union Co,Il,so that today,Union Co,Il is still peopled by these individuals. Appreciate,any help on Peter Davis.Kevin Kelly

Jean stated: >The Germans don't make the "w" sound that the English do. They >pronounce their "w" like the English pronounce a "v". The Germans >pronounce the "v" sound like the English pronounce an "f". Velir would >sound like feh-leer. The closest thing I could think of for an >Anglicized version would be Felix. The name would sound like feh-leer only if actually physically written by the German testator himself. If you make the assumption that the will, presumably written in English, was written by English clerk, then then when a German pronounced the name Weller to the the attorney who wrote out the will, it would, as you note, sound more like "Velir," the name written in the will. Rick Saunders

The Germans don't make the "w" sound that the English do. They pronounce their "w" like the English pronounce a "v". The Germans pronounce the "v" sound like the English pronounce an "f". Velir would sound like feh-leer. The closest thing I could think of for an Anglicized version would be Felix. Jean K.

Just thought I'd add a bit from my files regarding the WISHON family, from the 1850 Davie County census and other records: Husband: Joseph WISHON - ------------------------------------------- Death: About 1842 - ------------------------------------------- Wife: Barbara ATHON - ------------------------------------------- - ------------------------------------------- Children... - ------------------------------------------- 1. M Child: Samuel Alexander WISHON Birth: About 1834 Place: Surry/Yadkin Co. NC Burial: Place: Mt. Olive United Methodist, Yadkin Co. NC Spouse: Jane Carnetta SIZEMORE Marriage: 25 Sep 1856 Place: Davie Co. NC [bond date] Living with William Perry and his family, Davie Co. 1850, listed as age 14; however, article 1106 by Joyce Braswell in Davie Co. Heritage says that he was born about July 1834. This article states that he died after 7 July 1902 but before 1910. He served in Company I, NC 28th Regiment, in the Confederate Army. Children's names from the same article. 1860 Davie County census, transcript page 68, household 538; Farmington district Sam'l Wishon 25 Jane 21 Martha 3 Bettie B. 3/4 Barbery Wishon 46 Rebeca Wishon 20 - ------------------------------------------- 2. F Child: Sarah WISHON Birth: About 1837 Place: Surry Co. NC Spouse: John Franklin GRAVES Marriage: 26 Aug 1857 Place: Davie Co. NC [bond date] Age 13 in 1850, living with Jacob C. and Mary Miller - ------------------------------------------- 3. F Child: Rebecca WISHON Birth: About 1840 Place: Surry Co. NC living with William Perry and his family, Davie Co. 1850 - ------------------------------------------- 4. F Child: Rhoda Jane WISHON Birth: About 1844 Place: Surry Co. NC Spouse: Allen Milton POTTS Marriage: 14 Nov 1867 Place: Davie Co. NC [bond date] Living in household of Eleanor Foster in 1850; with Thomas and Winnie Hill in 1860. Rhoda's marriage bond identifies her as the daughter of "Josiah" and Barbara, rather than Joseph. Husband's Notes... - ------------------------------------------- Notes: Four Wishorn children, all born Surry County, appear in the 1850 Davie County NC census, scattered among three families: Rhoda age 6 is living with Eleanor Foster age 86, Sarah Foster 39 and Henderson and Louisa Foster both age 21. Samuel Wishorn age 14 and Rebecca Wishorn age 10 are with William and Mary Perry and their family. Sarah Wishorn age 13 is with Jacob and Mary Miller. An article in Davie County Heritage, 1997, page 353-354, by Joyce R. Braswell, gives details of this family. She spells the name Wishon, whereas it is Wishorn in the 1850 census. I have changed the spelling here to correspond to her article. She names Joseph's wife as Barbary Athan, and says that they were living in the part of Surry Co. that later became Yadkin. After Joseph's death, the children were placed with families in Davie County, although their mother was still living. Wife's Notes... - ------------------------------------------- Notes: She survived her husband, but remained in Yadkin County when her children were dispersed to live with families in Davie County, where they appear in the 1850 census. In 1860 she was living with her son Samuel and his family in Davie. Elizabeth Harris state coordinator, NCGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/

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"David Clinard" <davidvanclinard@mindspring.com> wrote: >A German-born ancestor referred to one of his sons by the first name of >"Velir" >in his will of 1802 in North Carolina. What is the English/anglicized name >equivalent to Velir? David - I am certainly no expert on Germanic given names -- hopefully one will also answer your post <gr> --- but this ancestor had been in the 'US' for a while. This would, basically be pronounced 'Weller', I believe. Perhaps a phonetic spelling of a variant on mom's or grandma's maiden name? Probably wrong, but just an idea. Linda

Thank you Billy Markland very much for the Abraham Hall and Thomas West. I knew about the marriage but had not seen a Bondsman. It takes me that much closer to my ggg-grandfather. If you ever need help just ask and I will try . Thanks again,,, Gerri Ann

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A German-born ancestor referred to one of his sons by the first name of "Velir" in his will of 1802 in North Carolina. What is the English/anglicized name equivalent to Velir? I have several references to his sons in later generations but none are referred to as Velir in other references, but are referred to as other "English/American" names. Thanks for your help.

I appreciate all the time you have spent on lookups for me and others. I will try to fit my KERN and MICHEL/MICHAEL ancestors into the information you found. Thanks again. Stan and Dorothy (Kern) Walker