Are you familiar with the Immigrant Ships Transcribers Guild? I didn't find the Athens there, but keep checking back. They are adding more all the time. The URL is http://istg.rootsweb.com/ GreystokeB@aol.com wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to find the URL for a particulat ship? I know the > name of the ship (Athens), the port of entry (Baltimore), and the date (July > 24-26, 1851). I would like to read the manifest, if possible. Any help or > suggestions will be greatly appreciated. > I love this genealogy! > Cookie, in Florida > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > Have you joined the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > Cooperative yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/

Mr.Barnhardt,is www.dantan.com,the right web sight? My Internet service said it wouldn't open up.Kevin kelly ---------- > From: Barney Barnhardt <barneyb@salisbury.net> > To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Rowan County Information Site > Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 7:58 PM > > I'll try this again. This is a site of links to other Rowan related sites. > Some are not of a genealogical nature, but I think you'll find enough that > are to make it worthwhile. > > The site is www.dantana.com > > Barney > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from RowanRoots-L, send an e-mail message to: >    RowanRoots-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) >    RowanRoots-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > Subject:  unsubscribe > In the body include only one word:  unsubscribe > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command)

I'll try this again. This is a site of links to other Rowan related sites. Some are not of a genealogical nature, but I think you'll find enough that are to make it worthwhile. The site is www.dantana.com Barney

Here is the address and telephone number for the Organ Lutheran Church as listed on Yahoo Yellow Pages. Organ Lutheran Church 1515 Organ Church Rd Salisbury, NC (704) 279-3096 Hope it helps!! Barney

I imagine this address will no longer be usable. A few years back all addresses in Rowan County were changed to the actual house/building number instead of the route and box number. There was a period where either address was ok, but I feel sure that period has passed. I'm not sure what the address would be now, but a call to information may yield a phone number that you could call or a search on Yahoo Yellow Pages may do the trick >In a message dated 10/21/99 8:01:31 AM, jannine@ix.netcom.com writes: > ><< Organ Lutheran Church Records >> > >In 1986, the address was >Organ Lutheran Church >Route 3, Box 676, Salisbury, NC 28144 >

Can anyone tell me how to find the URL for a particulat ship? I know the name of the ship (Athens), the port of entry (Baltimore), and the date (July 24-26, 1851). I would like to read the manifest, if possible. Any help or suggestions will be greatly appreciated. I love this genealogy! Cookie, in Florida

I was wondering if anyone could provide directions to Eaton Baptist Church Cemetery located in Cana. I'd becoming from the north down either I-81 or I-95. Looking to get some photos of the headstone of Col. Jonathan HUNT. David Strain ddstrain@aol.com

CYLGowdy@aol.com wrote: > Bill, > > Jo White Linn has just transcribed the Diary of Johann Gottfried Arends. It > can be purchased from her for $25. Order from P.O. Box 1948, Salisbury, NC > 28145-1948. > > I have a book of Organ Lutheran Church Records, 8.5 x 11, 196 pages, which my > mother bought in 1986. I believe she got it from the church itself. You might > try them. > > Good luck, > Cathy > Do you have that address for the church? Thanks > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > Please consider joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > Cooperative? > http://www.rootsweb.com/ -- Jannine Coble Gregory 7937 Jester Blvd Austin, Texas 78750 512-346-0232 512-346-0234 FAX

DR. BILL EDDLEMAN wrote: > In my files, I have a few pages from a booklet-sized summary of the records > of Organ Lutheran Church in Rowan Co. The pages were copied to include > only information on the Eddleman family. This information was mailed some > years ago to my uncle, from whom I inherited the files. The original > appears to have been a small (4" x 6") booklet, and parts of it may have > been from the journal of Rev. Johann Godfried Ahrens. Some of the pages I > have are records of first confirmations, but most is baptismal records. > Does anyone know where I might find the COMPLETE listing of these records? > Have they been published elsewhere? If so, where would I find the records > of Organ Lutheran Church? > I also have been looking for this information. I have some of my Coble's spelled lots of different ways that were baptised at this church. Thanks > ----Bill Eddleman > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > The purpose of this list is the discussion of "Old Rowan" genealogy and history. Please ensure that your message is on topic. -- Jannine Coble Gregory 7937 Jester Blvd Austin, Texas 78750 512-346-0232 512-346-0234 FAX

In my files, I have a few pages from a booklet-sized summary of the records of Organ Lutheran Church in Rowan Co. The pages were copied to include only information on the Eddleman family. This information was mailed some years ago to my uncle, from whom I inherited the files. The original appears to have been a small (4" x 6") booklet, and parts of it may have been from the journal of Rev. Johann Godfried Ahrens. Some of the pages I have are records of first confirmations, but most is baptismal records. Does anyone know where I might find the COMPLETE listing of these records? Have they been published elsewhere? If so, where would I find the records of Organ Lutheran Church? ----Bill Eddleman

In a message dated 10/21/99 8:01:31 AM, jannine@ix.netcom.com writes: << Organ Lutheran Church Records >> In 1986, the address was Organ Lutheran Church Route 3, Box 676, Salisbury, NC 28144

Bill, Jo White Linn has just transcribed the Diary of Johann Gottfried Arends. It can be purchased from her for $25. Order from P.O. Box 1948, Salisbury, NC 28145-1948. I have a book of Organ Lutheran Church Records, 8.5 x 11, 196 pages, which my mother bought in 1986. I believe she got it from the church itself. You might try them. Good luck, Cathy

What a wonderful post. I really enjoyed reading this. Very well put!!! -----Original Message----- From: GreystokeB@aol.com <GreystokeB@aol.com> To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 2:22 PM Subject: Cemeteries >From a column, ALL ABOUT ANTIQUES, by Ralph and Tery Kovel, published in the >Jacksonville, Florida Florida Times-Union newspaper. Copyrighted. > > Death has always been a part of everyday life. In Victorian times, many >children died before they were 10, women died in childbirth, and epidemics >like smallpox often killed several members of the same family. > The cemetery was a place to "talk" to the deceased while honoring them >with flowers. Family outings, and often picnics, were common-place in large, >park-like cemeteries. Victorian memorials to the dead included elaborate >tombstones, carved statues, cast iron fences, gates, and furniture. > Today we often miss some of the symbolism of the early grave markers. A >weeping willow signified grief, and a lamb was often carved on a child's >tomb. A bridal wreath with a dart symbolized a bride, while a rosebud with a >broken stem was used to remember an infant. For-get-me-nots, anchors, tree >stumps, ivy, doves, crosses, sleeping children and other symbols of death and >rebirth are also found on old artifacts from Victorian cemeteries. The >park-like cemetery remained popular until about World War I. > By that time, many diseases had been conquered and early deaths of fzmily >members were less common. The cemetery was rarely visited and sometimes >neglected. The legends of ghosts, goblins and bodies rising from the grave >became part of literature and common belief. In the past, attractive >carvings and wrought iron pieces were stolen from cemeteries and sold to >collectors. Authorities are now prosecuting those who sell such items, and >buyers must return them to the cemetery. > > > >==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== >The purpose of this list is the discussion of "Old Rowan" genealogy and history. Please ensure that your message is on topic. >

I am looking for information on Josiah William Norris b ca 1736, place unknown. He was living in Johnston County in 1757 when his son William was born. They moved to Rowan County ca 1770, and then located to Wilkes County Georgia about 1784. Anyone with information on this family is requested to contact me and I will be happy to share what I have. The downline includes the Norris family that helped form the "Confederados" which was a group of Confederates that migrated to Brazil following the Civil War. Any information will be greatly appreciated. Thank you very much..C B Jones, Melbourne, Fl

I am looking for information on William Ruffus Lyerly b.Oct 1, 1849 m.Laura Ann (Unknown) Feb 14, 1852. I have a list of their chilren but no info on Williams parents. Any info on William or Laura Ann would be appreciated. Thanks sassermtn@aol.com

I descend from Samuel Sewell - Rowan Co, N.C. 1780's his sons went to Ga to settle on bounty lands. Two marrried Chandler sisters, one married Baker. Would like to exchange family info. THANKS

>From a column, ALL ABOUT ANTIQUES, by Ralph and Tery Kovel, published in the Jacksonville, Florida Florida Times-Union newspaper. Copyrighted. Death has always been a part of everyday life. In Victorian times, many children died before they were 10, women died in childbirth, and epidemics like smallpox often killed several members of the same family. The cemetery was a place to "talk" to the deceased while honoring them with flowers. Family outings, and often picnics, were common-place in large, park-like cemeteries. Victorian memorials to the dead included elaborate tombstones, carved statues, cast iron fences, gates, and furniture. Today we often miss some of the symbolism of the early grave markers. A weeping willow signified grief, and a lamb was often carved on a child's tomb. A bridal wreath with a dart symbolized a bride, while a rosebud with a broken stem was used to remember an infant. For-get-me-nots, anchors, tree stumps, ivy, doves, crosses, sleeping children and other symbols of death and rebirth are also found on old artifacts from Victorian cemeteries. The park-like cemetery remained popular until about World War I. By that time, many diseases had been conquered and early deaths of fzmily members were less common. The cemetery was rarely visited and sometimes neglected. The legends of ghosts, goblins and bodies rising from the grave became part of literature and common belief. In the past, attractive carvings and wrought iron pieces were stolen from cemeteries and sold to collectors. Authorities are now prosecuting those who sell such items, and buyers must return them to the cemetery.

Cazaire may well be a variant spelling of Keziah, a common Bible name in colonial America. I have seen it "mangled" as Cazire and Curzirah. Keziah was one of the daughters of Job. The other 2 named were Jemima and Kerren-happuch (commonly abbreviated as Kerren H.). Looking at Cazaire's siblings, do they have Bible names? Was John's wife born in America? In dealing with variant names, we need to remember that R is not a consonant. --Ida Skarson McCormick, idamc@seanet.com, <snip> >>I don't know where the name Cazaire came from. All the Baker >>researchers I have run across have that as her name. Her dad John MULWEE >>was born 1744 in Ireland so it may be an Irish or Scottish name.<snip> >Cessaire, Casair, Kesara, and other spellings, was an old Irish >culture heroine dealing with some of the early "invasion/migration" >history. <snip>

Hello. > Bruce, I don't know where the name Cazaire came from. All the Baker >researchers I have run across have that as her name. Her dad John MULWEE >was born 1744 in Ireland so it may be an Irish or Scottish name. I >searched on the computer for meanings of names. The closest name was >Casarah , a relatively modern name from the song "Que Sera Sera, whatever >will be, will be." Actually it may be a form of Sarah. I know that in the >will she was called Rachel so I imagine that was her formal and legal >proper name. Could she have been Rachel Cazaire Mulwee ? The name MULWEE >is unusual also. I wonder if that name wasn't originally Mc Elwee. Cessaire, Casair, Kesara, and other spellings, was an old Irish culture heroine dealing with some of the early "invasion/migration" history. Cessair was the leader of the legendary "First invasion of Ireland". A very brief but relatively OK summary follows: "After the colonizing Christians arrived in Ireland, the island's ancient legends were altered to incorporate elements from the new traditions. Thus we find some rather strange amalgams of native and imported myth, like the one in which Cassair appears. She was apparently an early Irish earth-goddess, later called a historical woman, who was a 'granddaughter of Noah' and 'married to a man of the blood of Seth'. With this heritage, it was no small feat to get her to Ireland; the annalists simply defied Judeo-Christian tradition by allowing Cassair to survive the flood, along with three men and 50 women, who in three ships plied the deluge waters from Palestine to Eire. Ireland, of course, was spared the flood -- one of the many miracles in the land's mythic history. Cassair and crew arrived, after 40 days and the loss of two ships, at Corca Guiny in Ireland. There the last ship was wrecked, and Cessair was drowned. So were her daughters Birrin and Blama, along with almost everyone in the ship. Cessair leveled mighty curses at Jehovah as she went down." There are many renditions of the story of this "female 'Noah'", and some of the on-board situations in the actual tales are very amusing <gr>. She was married to Fintan, a shipwreck survivor who went on to have one @#$%^%$#@ of a life <gr>. He was eventually tied with Finn Mac Cumhail (Finn 'Mac Cool') of serious Irish legend. Betcha anything that your Cazaire was named after the legendary Cessair/Casair. Gosh did her dad's 'family stories' say that they were descended from her?? We all know how that can go <gr>. Or perhaps a strong older lady in the first generation immigrants of his family was a taleteller, and was named or nicknamed Casair, and yours was named after this newer version of the "first invaders heroine". Or maybe her mom just liked the old stories, and wanted to wish Cessaire's gutsiness and strength on her daughter. Who know? Any relatively good book on Irish Myth and Legend will yield a lot more of the stories and provenance of this mythic lady. Happy hunting <gr>, Linda

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 06:40:04 -0700 Ida Skarson McCormick <idamc@seanet.com> writes: Cazaire may well be a variant spelling of Keziah, a common Bible name in colonial America. I have seen it "mangled" as Cazire and Curzirah. Keziah was one of the daughters of Job. The other 2 named were Jemima and Kerren-happuch (commonly abbreviated as Kerren H.). Looking at Cazaire's siblings, do they have Bible names? Was John's wife born in America? In dealing with variant names, we need to remember that R is not a consonant. Ida Skarson McCormick, idamc@seanet.com, Dear Ida, In support of your hypothesis, I knew a family from Caldwell County, NC having the surname Keziah. They pronounced it "Kazar, with the emphasis on the second syllable". Others with this surnamed pronounced it as spelled, though. Ray Yount ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.