At 05:28 PM 10/23/99 -0500, Herbert Barnes wrote: [snip] >Are there records of service for the revolutionary war relating to >residents of the Old Rowan Co.? Are there old wills and/or probate >records for Old Rowan Co.? If so, does anyone know where they might be >archived? A good place to start, for looking for Revolutionary War records, is Virgil White's abstracts of Revolutionary War pensioners. Not every Revolutionary War veteran signed up for a pension -- most seem to have done so only if they had serious financial reverses or lived to be *very* old, if they hadn't been disabled by their war service -- but it's a good place to start. Also check the Patriot Index (published by the DAR, and in most genealogical libraries) for your ancestor: many listed by the DAR didn't do military service, but rendered other service to the state or Continental government. (If your ancestor filed for a pension, it may not have been where you think he lived: many, many people moved around quite a bit after the Revolution.) Who the DAR or SAR (men's equivalent, which is headquartered in Louisville, KY) accept as ancestors can change: the latest edition of the Patriot Index of which I'm aware was published in 1991, and the DAR publishes ancestor updates periodically in its magazine. (Many libraries subscribe to the magazine: even nonmembers can subscribe.) Elizabeth Whitaker

Mary, I don't remember the URL for the sight where I found these but I thought you might find them interesting. Patricia Gravestone Symbolism Anchor/Ships Hope or Seafaring profession Arches Victory in Death Arrows Mortality Bouquets/Flowers Condolences, grief, sorrow Broken Column Loss of Head of Family Broken Ring Family Circle Severed Buds/Rosebud Morning of Life or Renewal of Life Bugles Resurrection and the Military Butterfly Short-lived; Early Death Candle being Snuffed Time, mortality Cherub Angelic Clouds Atmospheric veil which conceals God from his worshipers Coffin Mortality; signified the passing away of the flesh, used for its entombment and the ultimate triumph of death Corn Ripe Old Age Cross Emblem of Faith Crossed Swords High-ranking military person Crown Honors glorified souls and angels, or points to the triumph of death, when it caps a winged skill Darts Mortality Dove Innocence, Gentleness, Affection, Purity Father Time Mortality Flying Birds Flight of the Soul Fruits Eternal plenty Full-Blown Rose Prime of Life Garlands Victory in death Hand of God Chopping Sudden Death Handshakes Farewell Harp Praise to the Maker Hearts Soul in Bliss or Love of Christ Horns The Resurrection Hourglass Meant a passage of time; Its use as an attribute for personified figures of Death and Father Time comes out of a long tradition of mortuary symbolism. Rarely used alone, usually appeared along with hearts, starts, leaves and sacred flowering vines; it was also the frequent companion of winged death's heads and bones Hourglass w/Wings of Time Time Flying; Short Life Imps Mortality Ivy Friendship and Immortality Lamb Innocence Laurel Fame or Victory Lily or Lily of Valley Emblem of Innocence and Purity Morning Glory Beginning of Life Oak Leaves & Acorn Maturity, Ripe Old Age Open Book/Bible Deceased Teacher, Minister, etc. Palm Branch Signifies Victory and Rejoicing Picks/Shovels Mortality Poppy Sleep Portals Passageway to eternal journey Roses Brevity of earthly existence Sheaf of Wheat Ripe for Harvest, Divine Harvest, Time Shells Pilgrimage of Life Sun or rays The presence of Christ; the sun connotes resurrection Star Guidance for the soul Stars & Stripes Around eagle Eternal Vigilance, Liberty Thistles Remembrance Tombs Mortality Tree Symbolic of life or death depending on whether it was alive or felled; go back to the tree of Life and the Tree of Knowledge in the Garden of Eden Trumpeters Heralds of the Resurrection Torch Inverted Life Extinct Tree Stump w/Ivy Head of Family; Immortality Urn with Blaze Undying Friendship Urn with /Wreath or Crepe Mourning Weeping Willow Emblem of Sorrow Willows Earthly Sorrow Winged Effigies Flight of the Soul

I can't answer questions on this because I haven't tried it yet myself. Betty Pace --------- Begin forwarded message ---------- Subject:] Fw: Civil War Rosters - All States Date: Sat, 23 Oct 1999 20:09:16 -0500 Civil War Rosters - All States http://www.angelfire.com/ar/leddyhome/ Civil War Rosters - Arranged by State The MOST COMPLETE list of rosters on the web Updated Daily (well, almost) Last - 10/23/99 Welcome to the fast-loading, non-commercial, no-graphics, no frames website Alabama Arkansas Colorado Connecticut Dakota Terr. Delaware Florida Georgia Illinois Indiana Iowa Kansas Kentucky Louisiana Maine Maryland Massachusetts Michigan Minnesota Mississippi Missouri Nebraska New Hampshire New Jersey New York New Mexico North Carolina Ohio Pennsylvania Rhode Island South Carolina Tennessee Texas Vermont Virginia West Virginia Wisconsin Navy Soldier Burials Misc. Sites Statistics These rosters are NO WHERE On The WWW Arizona Generals Italian Rgmt. French Guard Laundry Other Civil War Related Sites Military Records, Prisons and Prisoners, Archives (Under Construction ! ) CAN'T FIND HIM? New - For October site of the month - turn images on ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Information on obtaining copies of records in Rowan Co. can be found at: http://www.lib.co.rowan.nc.us/History%20Room/html/query_policy.htm Belinda Rodgers <Are there old wills and/or probate records for Old Rowan Co.? If so, does anyone know where they might be archived?>

Can anyone tell me where I might find a sight that tells what different designs on tombstones mean? Thank you Mary

I am looking for information as to what is available and from where they might be found about death records, marriage records, military service records. My gr-gr-gr-gr-grandfather, John Brien came from Ireland. Some say he was born in 1735, some say he came to the Colonies in 1735. He settled near what is Winston-Salem today. He married a Miss___?___ Clark. A son, James Brien, my gr-gr-gr-grandfather, was born in 1757, married Ann Lytle and moved to Logan Co., Ky in 1794 with the wife and children. Surely there were more children of John and Miss Clark than the one son. No one, to date, has known where to start looking for such early records, even land records would be helpful. Are there records of service for the revolutionary war relating to residents of the Old Rowan Co.? Are there old wills and/or probate records for Old Rowan Co.? If so, does anyone know where they might be archived? Thank you for reading this. Herbert F Barnes, Dallas, TX

Dear Sami, The only site I can find may be the one you found for Pt. Lookout. This is an organization for descendants of soldiers held at Point Lookout Prison. It is: http://members.tripod.com/~PLPOW/plpow.htm e-mail: plpow@erols.com I know that the LDS centers have listings of filmed records of this and other POW prisons in the north. Find your closest LDS family history center and they can help you order the films. Betty On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 15:03:51 EDT SAM4952@aol.com writes: >Betty, I also was searching for records of my husband's great >grandfather who >was held at Point Lookout Maryland during the last few months of the >war, but >could not find mention of his name anywhere. I sent out a lot of >inquiries, >even to the one who had posted the info on the web site, but no one >responded. The ancestor did fill out a questionaire that the state of >TN put >out in the 1920's to veterans in TN, so we know he was there. If you >know of >any other sources of records would you let me know. Sami in GA ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

I would suggest that the letters or copies of them,be sent to the Mormons.They will microfilm them,for free and give you(free)a microfilm copy.That way,everyone,close to a FHC,will have access to them.The McCubbins is accessible,thru FHC. Kevin Kelly,researching Davis,"Old Rowan".My daughters,related to Casper & Fullenwiders. Another Rowan,to Union Co,Il migration. --------- > From: Betty A. Pace <bapace2@juno.com> > To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: Civil War Prisoner Records > Date: Saturday, October 23, 1999 3:51 AM > > Dear Al, > > I actually don't know the answer to your question. My first response is > for you to donate them to a university that has preservation facilities. > I also understand that the Georga State Archives are very extensive > because a relative of mine has done NC research there. > > Another thought is that the various counties in the various states have > digital links where people have typed up old records and posted them for > future generations. Generally there is a web coordinator or web master > for each county that you should contact to do this because there is > probably some requirement as to what form (disk?) they can accept entries > in. Someone on RowanRoots probably knows how to do this better than I > do. I know that the Guilford Co. page has been posting old newspaper > marriage and death records from the Patriot of Greensboro in the 1830's > and you could contact the man who has done this for advice. To get his > e-mail, go to the Guilford NC homepage and there will be a link > somewhere. > > I would type them up with all the spelling and punctuation errors. That > gives authenticity to the memorialization of valuable records. > > Betty Pace > On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 22:58:50 -0400 (EDT) alhudson@webtv.net (Arthur > Hudson) writes: > >Betty, I have copies of over a dozen letters written bya Civil War > >soldier from Yadkin to his wife in said county and I also have some of > >hers to him urging him to desert. He was at Dalton, Ga.I think he did > >just that. Is there a place I could place these letters before they > >fad > >away. I loaned them to onelady and she made copies but I dont know > >what > >she did with the copies. > > >AL of Yadkin Co. NC > > > > > ___________________________________________________________________ > Get the Internet just the way you want it. > Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! > Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj. > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from RowanRoots-L, send an e-mail message to: >    RowanRoots-L-request@rootsweb.com (for individual messages) >    RowanRoots-D-request@rootsweb.com (for Digest mode) > Subject:  unsubscribe > In the body include only one word:  unsubscribe > (Turn OFF your signature file when sending this command)

About the civil war letters, if you can, transcribe them and place them on USGENWEB archives. The NC state archives does have good security, they are very particular, don't even want you chewing gum in there. But that is good that they are so tight about it. Virginia wtsongwriter@geocities.com MT PLEASANT CEMETERY AT TANGLEWOOD, Forsyth Co NC http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/Opry/1166/mtplea/mtplea.htm GRANNY'S GENEALOGY PAGE http://www.geocities.com/nashville/opry/1166/ FLESHER HOMEPAGE http://www.public.usit.net/gflesher SONGWRITING http://www.geocities.com/Nashville/Opry/7077/

The Register of Deeds office in North Carolina counties has a book called Delayed Births to hold all records that were done this way. My grandmother's was listed in Buncombe County in their book. S Barkley

<<Is there a place I could place these letters before they fad away. I loaned them to onelady and she made copies but I dont know what she did with the copies.>> A few years ago, I had the NC Archives in Raleigh preserve an old family letter that was beginning to deteriorate. They professionally laminated the document using a special process. I still possess the letter but, I believe they would also accept your letters as a donation if you wanted them protected for the future. The security of such valuable documents will be a problem no matter what you choose to do. However, I have been impressed with their security procedures compared to some other places I've seen. In order to share the letters with interested parties, perhaps you could get some high quality copies made and share the copies with people. You might also consider scanning them into a computer to get a digital image. If you do not know how, or if you do not have access to a scanner, you could have this done professionally. I think Kinko's offers this service, for example. This would preserve the information and provide an excellent way to share the letters to others via ! the internet, e-mail, etc. I believe that this is the way we are going. Digital images will probably replace microfilm in the future. Just a few ideas. John

Dear Al, I actually don't know the answer to your question. My first response is for you to donate them to a university that has preservation facilities. I also understand that the Georga State Archives are very extensive because a relative of mine has done NC research there. Another thought is that the various counties in the various states have digital links where people have typed up old records and posted them for future generations. Generally there is a web coordinator or web master for each county that you should contact to do this because there is probably some requirement as to what form (disk?) they can accept entries in. Someone on RowanRoots probably knows how to do this better than I do. I know that the Guilford Co. page has been posting old newspaper marriage and death records from the Patriot of Greensboro in the 1830's and you could contact the man who has done this for advice. To get his e-mail, go to the Guilford NC homepage and there will be a link somewhere. I would type them up with all the spelling and punctuation errors. That gives authenticity to the memorialization of valuable records. Betty Pace On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 22:58:50 -0400 (EDT) alhudson@webtv.net (Arthur Hudson) writes: >Betty, I have copies of over a dozen letters written bya Civil War >soldier from Yadkin to his wife in said county and I also have some of >hers to him urging him to desert. He was at Dalton, Ga.I think he did >just that. Is there a place I could place these letters before they >fad >away. I loaned them to onelady and she made copies but I dont know >what >she did with the copies. >AL of Yadkin Co. NC > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Dear Joanne, A genealogist in the Rowan History Room traced our Margaret Smith (1806-1895Rowan), but only in a limited way. Her father was John Smith (1780-1812), who in 1804 married Polly Bryan (1784-1843)--at his death, Polly remarried Jacob Weant and nothing further known. Margaret Smith married Isaac Earnhart (1807?-1846Rowan), and their child was Caroline E. Earnhart, my gggrandmother (1838-1908), who married William M. Wilson (1821-1864), then a B. J. Burgess, shoemaker in Rowan Co., NC. The father of John Smith was Peter Smith Jr. and his father was Peter Schmidt Sr. We were given no dates or wives on the two Peters, but assume they were the Schmidts of Rowan County, who may or may not have been affiliated with the Moravian Schmidts (George Schmidt). I just thought I would drop this note to you as we may later find a tie. If your Peter Smith (or Schmidt) died in 1767, that would make him possibly the Peter Schmidt Sr. that the Rowan genealogist told us about. Betty Pace - Norfolk On Fri, 22 Oct 1999 08:35:35 -0500 "Joanne M. Harrison" <ladyjays@wctc.net> writes: >Still looking for more information on John Adams b. abt 1728, married >to Eve Smith (daughter of Peter Smith who died in Rowan Co., >in 1767. John and Eve were the parents of John Adams who married >Winifred Bussell in Rowan Co, August 15, 1768. Also need more >info on Winnie's parents. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks >and good luck. > >Joanne Harrison >ladyjays@wctc.net > > >==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== >Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? >Visit the RowanRoots-L web page: >http://www.aa.net/~jdcoates/list/rowanroots-l.htm > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Hi, Hope someone can help. Several years ago my children's g/mother, (of Caldwell Co.,/deceased), had to get some one (that knew her, we think probably from another County, where she was born), to sign for her, to enable her to get her birth Certificate, Q: we are unable to find it now. Where would we be able to get another copy? Thanks, Bobbie

Betty, I have copies of over a dozen letters written bya Civil War soldier from Yadkin to his wife in said county and I also have some of hers to him urging him to desert. He was at Dalton, Ga.I think he did just that. Is there a place I could place these letters before they fad away. I loaned them to onelady and she made copies but I dont know what she did with the copies. AL of Yadkin Co. NC

Still looking for more information on John Adams b. abt 1728, married to Eve Smith (daughter of Peter Smith who died in Rowan Co., in 1767. John and Eve were the parents of John Adams who married Winifred Bussell in Rowan Co, August 15, 1768. Also need more info on Winnie's parents. Any help will be greatly appreciated. Thanks and good luck. Joanne Harrison ladyjays@wctc.net

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Dear Nancy, I know that the LDS (Mormons) have filmed many of the old Union records from the POW camps in the north. What they have can be seen in their catalog at your local LDS center. I have even seen sutler reports from Pt. Lookout, MD, listed on-line but could find no mention of my JOHN FLETCHER PACE held there from Nov 1863 to around March 1864. I guess everyone didn't deal with the sutlers. There were also some letters to/from prisoners on- line. I don't seem to have that URL any longer, but it was for Pt. Lookout anyway. While most records of men held in Confederate camps have been lost, a lot of the Union camps did keep records that were detailed and the LDS has films of those. Betty Pace - Norfolk, VA On Wed, 20 Oct 1999 10:34:38 EDT BoydNancyL@aol.com writes: >I remember a discussion about obtaining records for Confederate >soldiers in >Union prisons. I am looking for records for an Alexander Valentine >who died >in the Alton, IL, Prison. Does anyone know how to obtain those >records. It >is my understanding that he did write a letter asking to sign an Oath >of >Allegiance to the United States. > >Thank you, > >Nancy Moore > > >==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== >Please consider joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data >Cooperative? >       http://www.rootsweb.com/ > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

My in-laws are members at Organ Lutheran Church. Here is the address and phone: Organ Lutheran Church 1515 Organ Church Road Salisbury, NC 28146 (704) 279-3096 -- ___________________________________________________________ Rob and Sheila Nance (rob-n-sheila@erols.com) ___________________________________________________________

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