Dear Elizabeth, Thank you so much for your help. Assuming that this is all the same Zilpha Hall, the NC marriage bonds have her marrying ALSEY PACE in Johnston Co., NC, in Sept. 1820. Alsey Pace may be the illegitimate son of STEPHEN PACE by an Indian woman. The problem is figuring out if this is the same Zilpha or Zilpah Pace (name spelling varies with the census). Maybe Zilpha/Ziltha was a common first name among Quakers, or at least among Halls. Frankly, some of the children of Zilpha Pace do have Quaker-sounding names: Abner, Wiseman, Needham, Lively. At least I suspect these are the children of Zilpha Pace as she later turns up in Guilford Co., NC, and migrates to Mecklenburg in the 1850s with some of these children. No husband is shown in the 1850 census and her birth place on that census is shown as Chatham Co., NC. Betty Pace - Norfolk, VA On Mon, 22 Nov 1999 07:25:17 -0500 (EST) ncgen@mindspring.com (Elizabeth Harris) writes: >>On the LDS search site I found an entry for Zilpah HALL which shows >her >>birth 12 Aug 1801 in Contentea Mm, Wayne, North Carolina. >> >>Notice the "Mm" after Contentnea. Is it possible that should be >"MM'" >>indicating a Quaker settlement? Where is Wayne, NC? > >You're correct, this is the name of a Quaker Monthly Meeting, and it >was in >Wayne County NC. That's in eastern NC - Goldsboro area. > >>This Zilpah Hall could later be married and show on Guilford Co NC >census >>reports as Zilpah PACE; she was around 50 in the 1850 census. Some >of >>her family came to Rowan around 1843-44. >> > > >Hinshaw's Quaker records, p. 288, lists Zilphia as the daughter of >Isaac >and Mary HALL, with a brother Henry, b. 2-6-1803. On p. 307, the >marriage >of Isaac and Mary is recorded, on 10-23-1800 at Holly Spring MM. >Isaac was >the son of an older Isaac HALL, Mary's maiden name was DOUDNA, and she >was >the daughter of John DOUDNA of EdgecombeCo. NC. > >However - there's also the note that this family moved to Concord MM >in >Jefferson Co. Ohio in 1804. While that doesn't rule out the >possibility >that they came back to NC, it doesn't look terribly likely. > >Elizabeth Harris >state coordinator, NCGenWeb >http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ > > ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

If you have the time and are not too over welmed with request. John Casey 1820's Blacksmith and Ironworker Henry, Jesse, Thomas and all his others sons were also Blacksmiths and Ironworkers Happy hunting Catherine Leinbach

hello, does anyone out there have access to the NC Will Abstracts. 1784 Ellis, Edmond-William page 313 1789 Ellis,Mary-Reuben, John, William & Esther page 118 I am researching the ELLIS family from Rowan Co. My 3rd great grandfather William Ellis shows up in the 1820 census for Rowan, living alone. He was born abt 1797. If anyone can help with this I would apprecite it. thanks, dallas harold ellis

>On the LDS search site I found an entry for Zilpah HALL which shows her >birth 12 Aug 1801 in Contentea Mm, Wayne, North Carolina. > >Notice the "Mm" after Contentnea. Is it possible that should be "MM'" >indicating a Quaker settlement? Where is Wayne, NC? You're correct, this is the name of a Quaker Monthly Meeting, and it was in Wayne County NC. That's in eastern NC - Goldsboro area. >This Zilpah Hall could later be married and show on Guilford Co NC census >reports as Zilpah PACE; she was around 50 in the 1850 census. Some of >her family came to Rowan around 1843-44. > Hinshaw's Quaker records, p. 288, lists Zilphia as the daughter of Isaac and Mary HALL, with a brother Henry, b. 2-6-1803. On p. 307, the marriage of Isaac and Mary is recorded, on 10-23-1800 at Holly Spring MM. Isaac was the son of an older Isaac HALL, Mary's maiden name was DOUDNA, and she was the daughter of John DOUDNA of EdgecombeCo. NC. However - there's also the note that this family moved to Concord MM in Jefferson Co. Ohio in 1804. While that doesn't rule out the possibility that they came back to NC, it doesn't look terribly likely. Elizabeth Harris state coordinator, NCGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/

here is what I found Andrew Allison was a tailor from 1751--1780, he was sheriff in 1768. in 1769 he returnrd to his duty as Justice of thr Peace he held it until his death in1780,his son was Adam. he moved to Fourth Creek in 1749. Adam Allison who was sheriff 1769. Andrew came from PA. Thomas Allison was a joiner 1753--1780, he also was a sheriff a joiner was a carpender that made fine furniture and fittings for houses and ships. James Kerr was a joiner fromm1756--1804 David Kerr was a weaver from1759--1804 Nathaniel was a tanner fron 1756--1790 Joan NJ Arvay wrote: > > Hello, Joan > > If you wouldn't another look up, I'd very much appreciate a check for > ALLISON and KERR. > > Many, many thanks, > > Nancy Arvay > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > Please consider joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > Cooperative? > http://www.rootsweb.com/

On the LDS search site I found an entry for Zilpah HALL which shows her birth 12 Aug 1801 in Contentea Mm, Wayne, North Carolina. Notice the "Mm" after Contentnea. Is it possible that should be "MM'" indicating a Quaker settlement? Where is Wayne, NC? This Zilpah Hall could later be married and show on Guilford Co NC census reports as Zilpah PACE; she was around 50 in the 1850 census. Some of her family came to Rowan around 1843-44. Betty Pace - Norfolk, VA ___________________________________________________________________ Get the Internet just the way you want it. Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month! Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.

Thanks, to all of you for the quick response. I appreciate it. Thanks, Bobbie

Hello, Joan If you wouldn't another look up, I'd very much appreciate a check for ALLISON and KERR. Many, many thanks, Nancy Arvay

I didn't find any, sorry. Joan Anna Marie Nobbe wrote: > > Do you have any Cruse men or women listed? > > > > > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > > > Have you joined the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > > > Cooperative yet? > > > http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > > To contact the owner, send email to jdcoates@aa.net (John Coates) > >

Hi Deane, I didn't find any, sorry Joan Deane Coats wrote: > > Hi Joan > > Are there any Harman/Harmon's or Coats in your book? > > Deane > dcoats@jps.net > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > Have you joined the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > Cooperative yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/

I want to thank you for the information on the difference of the two. I was just wondering if there was a confusion of the two names. However, with them being that close to each other it is possible that one family owned property on both. Thank you again, Happy Hunting Catherine Leinbach

Researching the Bristol family: I'm told some of the family lives in: HENRIETTA, N.C. Is there any one familiar with this city? Thanks, Bobbie

>While searching records in the library and clerks offices, I found reference >to Deep River and Deep Creek. >What is the differences and where are the two located? > Deep Creek is in Yadkin County (part of Surry prior to 1850). Deep River is in southwestern Guilford County, near High Point. Both were Quaker settlements. Elizabeth Harris state coordinator, NCGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/

While searching records in the library and clerks offices, I found reference to Deep River and Deep Creek. What is the differences and where are the two located? Catherine Leinbach

Need information on Phillip Cruse b: 29 Dec 1722 Weisbaden, German Helped organize the Organ Lutheran Church in 1774 Monument stands in cemetery erected in 1976 What is the monument of? Does anyone have the records of the Organ Lutheran Church or information on how to get them?

Gay Stewart Beam <GBeam@aol.com> asked Date: Sunday, November 21, 1999 1:49 AM > Where can I find records of naturalization of citizens in Rowan NC and >other locations? A great place to turn for particular records are the LDS Research Outline guides. These are 50 cents plus tax for the state guides and a dollar plus tax for the country guides. The US guide is very informative for US Research. These can be ordered on-line at the www.familysearch.org web site and can also can be viewed on-line there. I give below a copy from the North Carolina Guide. The LDS library catalog (again on-line) lists court records but nothing explicitly on Naturalization records for Rowan County. Cyndi's list at: http://www.cyndislist.com/immigrat.htm gives a large number of sites covering immigration and naturalization. Jim Scofield >From LDS research outline North Carolina. LDS publication 31070: NATURALIZATION AND CITIZENSHIP Because North Carolina had no major sea ports, many immigrants who had applied for citizenship in other states completed naturalization proceedings in North Carolina. Until 1868 naturalization records could have been kept by either the county court or the superior court in each county. From 1868 to 1906, the superior court had jurisdiction over naturalizations. A list of available naturalization records for many counties is in I.C. Neagles and L.L. Neagles, Locating Your Immigrant Ancestor: A Guide to Naturalization Records (Logan, Utah: Everton Publishers, 1986; FHL book Ref 973 P47n 1986). For naturalization records after September 1906, contact the National Archives-Atlanta Branch or the nearest office of the federal Immigration and Naturalization Service.

Hi Joan Are there any Harman/Harmon's or Coats in your book? Deane dcoats@jps.net

Hi Eliz Since certain waterways are known for particular settlements, would Reedy Creek be considered a Morvarian settlement (for those who weren't strictly following the Morvarian rules and living within the actual Morvarian community)? Or perhaps just known (similar to Abbott's Creek) as a German settlement ? I know Reedy Creek pops up many different places, but just thought maybe it would be recognized for a particular settlement. Thanks much Stephanie Elizabeth Harris wrote: > > >While searching records in the library and clerks offices, I found reference > >to Deep River and Deep Creek. > >What is the differences and where are the two located? > > > > Deep Creek is in Yadkin County (part of Surry prior to 1850). Deep River > is in southwestern Guilford County, near High Point. Both were Quaker > settlements. > > Elizabeth Harris > state coordinator, NCGenWeb > http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncgenweb/ > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > Have you forgotten how to UNSUBSCRIBE? > Visit the RowanRoots-L web page: > http://www.aa.net/~jdcoates/list/rowanroots-l.htm

I found naturalization records for an Illinois county on microfilm from LDS. The researchers that went to the courthouse were told they didn't have those papers. Finally, I think, they were located.

In "The Source" there's a whole chapter on Naturalization. ..The crux of the matter is the info could be most any and everywhere...Local libraries and genealogical societies would be a good start. And of course, it depends on how much info you have to start with in the first place.. Good luck! (I hate to deal in generalities but the chapter in "The Source" comprises 80 pages...In other words, round up the usual sources..:-)) ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.