V 99 #324 header has your name on one of the items, but only one came through. If you got more than that, please forward. Thanx Bert Simerson wrote: > > Donna: please keep your eye on the Rowan Roots page. I wrote a long > response to cover what those who responded told me. > > Bert

I am hoping someone on this list can help me with information on the REDMAN and WILLIAMS families of Rowan and Iredell Counties, NC. I study the Williams family, but would like to know about 4 Redmans who married 4 children of Samuel and Mary (Molly) Williams. See the listing of children and spouses below. Were the 4 Redmans below siblings of each other? Family of Samuel & Mary Williams (Samuel's father, James, died in 1785 in Rowan Co., NC) Samuel WILLIAMS b: Bet. 1738 - 1741 d: May 1816 in Iredell Co., NC +Mary (Molly) WILLIAMS b: 1745 m: September 27, 1769 in Rowan Co., NC Father: Edward Williams III Mother: Jane 2 James WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1770 d: 1819 +Elizabeth REDMAN b: 1788 d: 1865 2 Edward (Ned) WILLIAMS b: Bet. 1775 - 1794 d: July 22, 1864 in Sumner, TN +Nancy DEFRIES 2 Lucretia WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1778 d: 1875 +Hosea REDMAN b: 1778 m: Abt. 1805 d: Bet. 1865 - 1875 2 Jane (Jinny) WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1780 d: Aft. 1860 +John REDMAN m: 1807 d: May 1837 2 Samuel WILLIAMS b: September 28, 1783 d: December 23, 1873 +Mary REDMAN b: 1784 d: 1872 2 Sarah WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1785 2 Alexander WILLIAMS b: Abt. 1791 d: 1852 +Elizabeth b: Abt. 1814 d: 1870 2 Theophilus (Offy) WILLIAMS b: Bet. 1795 - 1804 +Nancy SHAVER 2 Hiram WILLIAMS b: Bet. 1798 - 1804 d: Aft. 1870 +Lavinia b: 1814 d: 1870 Thanks for any and all help. Sue Streett

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Do you show anything on the HUNT line? Judy Johnson maggie@compu.net

Just an update on Brother's Keeper. For any given person in your data base, it will draw a timeline chart showing that person and the ancestors of that person. It can also fill in other events which you would put into a file for that purpose. And, as an experienced user of Brother's Keeper, I can assure you that it is both versatile and user-friendly. don Don Erickson Colorado Springs, CO don_erickson@pcisys.net http://www.pcisys.net/~don_erickson -----Original Message----- From: Bert Simerson <BertSimerson@compuserve.com> To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com <ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Thursday, November 25, 1999 3:52 PM Subject: Time Line Family History---UPDATE < snip> >Hence,I have checked into each reference I was given and can sum everything >up for those who asked for further info: the quick bottom line is that ya' >gotta go to Family Tree Maker, to Genelines [Progeny Software] or to >Brother's Keeper. They seem to me to become increasingly less versatile and >user-friendly from first to last. If you're interested in more details, >read on. > < more snip> > >One writer advised that Brother's Keeper woud do what I asked, but one had >to fill in the events and dates themselves. I did not personally check this >out because of this deterrent. >

Donna: Thanks for trying. Bert

First of all, thanks to each of you who responded to my earlier request for info on this subject. I received a couple of notes asking to share the info because they were interested, too, in generating a report that concurrently displayed what was happening in the world at the time a family member was added to the database.......and through their lifetime. Hence,I have checked into each reference I was given and can sum everything up for those who asked for further info: the quick bottom line is that ya' gotta go to Family Tree Maker, to Genelines [Progeny Software] or to Brother's Keeper. They seem to me to become increasingly less versatile and user-friendly from first to last. If you're interested in more details, read on. Family Tree Maker's genealogy program, version 7, has the facility to do what I was asking about. A check with their Tech Service says this facility was present also in versions 5 and 6. For a description, go to their home page <familytreemaker.com/> and you will find a little hyperlink square with the notation, "Buy 7.0; buy upgrade". Clicking on this takes you to the URL <familytreemaker.com/ftmvers.html>. By scrolling down below the table of CD's, etc, there is a "Features Description", which describes what kind of timeline reports can be generated. Scrolling further down will bring you to the heading "Plot Your Family History on US & World Maps", and a further description of what it can do. Also available is a product called "Genelines" described at URL <www.progenysoftware.com>. One person told me their phone number is 1-800-565-0018. They displayed examples of what their program could do. My personal opinion of the examples given was that they are skimpy and somewhat contrived. If interested, you'll have to check for yourself. It was interesting that on the Family Tree Maker homepage, there was a bar with the title: "CD & Software Specials" and, under that, a hyperllink to "Genelines. Try Timelines Software". Clicking on this, brought me back to the same page as immediately above under Progeny Software. I happen to have Family Origins as my genealogy program and it does not have the Time Line facility. I called Tech Service at Family Treemaker and asked if their Time Line, etc., could be purchased separately and used with Family Origins. The answer was "no". Then, since they have a demo version of Family Tree Maker, I asked could I download the demo, transfer my database by GED from Family Origins to Family Tree Maker, use the Time Line stuff to make the report I want, and someway then copy it back to the FO program. Again, the answer was "no". One simply has to have FTM to use and make the report.. Their cheapest version that contains this software is about $30 and, say, $5 for S&H. So, for about $35 one can utilize the desired utility to create a particularly desired sort of report. Naturally, you must print it out while in FTM. I have sent an e-mail to Tech Support at Parsons Technology to find out if they know a way to use the FTM technology, but have no answer yet. Because of the tone of certainty of the FTM technician I talked with, I believe the answer is predictable. But, if different, I'll report back to you all. One writer advised that Brother's Keeper woud do what I asked, but one had to fill in the events and dates themselves. I did not personally check this out because of this deterrent. Once again, thanks again for all the input. Happy hunting, BertSimerson@compuserve.com

Do you have Stokes William Lewis and Charty Clayton Will Thaks Kathy Donna Hull wrote: > Those counties are not listed in Olds will abstract book nor the tax > book. They must have been formed after 1800 or records lost. All of > these books have no information after 1800. Sorry I couldn't help. > > dh > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > The purpose of this list is the discussion of "Old Rowan" genealogy and history. Please ensure that your message is on topic.

Bobbie Wakefield your e-mail was returned. dh

Hello again Donna; What a great bunch of names. Will have to go through them probably tomorrow, as am going to my daughters for Thanksgiving. Hope you have a Happy one. Have been getting some ready for you, but not sure what to send. Will enclose the following, to let you know what I am working on at this time. Descendants of Robert Johnston 1 Robert Johnston 1715 - 1757 .. +Lillias Corbett - 1815 ......... 2 John Johnston 1740 - ......... 2 Thomas Johnston 1740 - ......... 2 Martha Johnston 1743 - ......... 2 Sarah Johnston 1743 - ......... 2 Mary Johnston 1743 - ......... 2 Robert Johnston 1745 - 1815 ............. +Mary Stone ......... 2 Phoebe Johnston 1745 - ......... 2 William Johnston 1745 - ......... 2 Ashley Johnston 1748 - ......... 2 Adam Johnston 1748 - This one I am following closely, as I read, in "Carolina Cradle" Robert had settled in the same area of Rowan Co. that Thomas and his family are stated to have been; in Salisbury, NC. Also a Billy Kennedy wrote a book concerning Scotch-Irish in Pennsylvania and Kentucky, and had said This Robert was the father of our Thomas but another researcher said that Kennedys informant of the facts had admitted "he had misinformed Mr. Kennedy.(See letter below) I am quite confused as to our Thomas's actual birth, as some say he was b. 1740-42 and some say 1750. Also, no one is sure of who he married other than it was a Sarah ? b.1755. Some say Greenfield. I have found 2 other marriages of a Thomas married to: 1 an Ann Varner, and 1 married to a Sarah Stapleton, and because they are names Varner and Stapleton which are in our line, they have me wondering. Began to research Michael Johnson, the son of Edward Johnson of Kent. He was hard to find any facts on, just recently found his line, and am studying it. I avidly researched Ashley Johnston's family, as he had a son Thomas b. 1750, but discovered he married someone else. - ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ >From jjackson@comteck.com Thu Jun 10 19:25:32 1999 To: <echo2@bright.net> Subject: Bill Kenedy's book From: "Jim Jackson" <jjackson@comteck.com> Date: Thu, 10 Jun 1999 18:25:32 -0500 Hi Ellen, Just wanted to add my two cents worth about the enclosed portion of the last email that you sent out. I'm afraid that the information that Mr Kennedy recieved about this group of the Johnsons and there tie with the Pike Co Ky Johnsons is in error. I talked with the individual who gave Mr Kennedy this info and he feels terrible about it now. He admitted to me that he jumped the gun but the book was already in print. Please pass this along to the rest of your group and let them know that it was just an honest mistake by an avid Johnson researcher. Jimmie - ----------------------------------------------------------- Still looking at Robert , as I have found so much in "Annals of Tennessee", and "Carolina Cradle" that sounds possible. But again, I may be wrong. Won't be the first time. Happy Thanksgiving. Ellen Carper, echo2@bright.net

Those counties are not listed in Olds will abstract book nor the tax book. They must have been formed after 1800 or records lost. All of these books have no information after 1800. Sorry I couldn't help. dh

Leigh-- Tax book covers 1701 - 1786. Nothing on your name. Grimes: -0- If you have 1 or 2 counties where you think they were, I can search the Olds will book. If you decide to write again, please hit reply so I have this information again. Thanx Donna Subject: NC Taxpayer Bk. Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:50:36 EST From: Leezbak42@aol.com To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Donna - Can you see if the name Izah, (or variations thereof) Flinn, (Flynn )or James Flinn & what yr. Thanks Leigh Flinn, San Diego

If Burke and Yancey Counties are listed here, could you email me, if you could check for a couple of names? Thanks, Bobbie

Orange Co will abstract: Bk D p, 80: dtd 7 Aug 1802, proven Nov Court 1802, John Powel, "weak in body", son Oliver, "loving Margaret Powel" ? wife ?, "dau Mary shall have just as much as the rest of her sisters", "To all my sons". Ex. "loving son Josiah Powel & Thomas Powel, Wit.: Arthur Lovin?, Lewis Rhodes This is only Powell will, other index entries are witnesses, named in other wills, etc. Grimes & Olds have nothing on Powell in Orange. Tax, Powells in Orange: 1755 Elias, Elijah, John, Nathan, Powells in Chowan: Rbt, Wm Jr & Sr, Geo, Shadrack, John Parks, Linsfield in Surry 1772, no Benj John & John Jr in Surry 1772 & 72 Thos Sr 1772 Surry & Thos jr in Surry 1771 No Adam Watson. A Benjamin in Surry 1771-2, a James in Orange 1755, Rowan 1759 Greenaway, Thomas 1763 New Hanover Hope it helps. Have a nice day tomorrow! Donna Subject: Re:Wills & NC Taxpayers Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 07:47:03 EST From: GGlis299@aol.com To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Donna, If it's not too much trouble could you please look up the Powell name in the Orange County Will Book. Also, in the NC Taxpayer Book could you please look up the names: Greenway Linchfield & Benjamin Parks Robert, John, William Powell Adam Watson I will be forever grateful. Glenda gglis299@aol.com

Ellen-- I am getting so many queries. Makes me happy I can help, at the same time, I am being snowed under. And to give a compliment to the listers, I have helped on other lists, but never to a more gracious group. On the other lists I'm lucky to get 10% replies of thanks. Here, it is quite a bit more than than--probably 70%. Tax list: Johnson, Wm, Rowan 1759 Rbt, Rowan 1759 Olds, Rowan Co: 1757 Johnson, Rbt, names Lily, John, Thomas, Robert, Martha, Sarah, Mary & Phoebe. 1767 Johnston, Thomas, wf Mary 1792 Johnson, William, Judith, Samuel, Manoah, Christian, Elizabeth, Margaret, Amy 1779 Johnston, Robert, wf Elizabeth, Wm, John, Anna, Jean, Margaret, Mary, Robert, Catherine, Elizabeth 1784 Johnston, Thomas, Amos, Margaret, John, Hester 1796 Johnston, Wm, Rachel, John, Rbt, Wm, Samuel, Jesse, Polly, Elizabeth 1797 Johnston, John, Joel, Ganaway, Obedience, John, Fanny, Rachel Grimes: none of following in Rowan p. 189: Johnston, Thomas, in Onslow p. 189: Johnson, Wm:, Albemarle p. 189: Johnson, Wm, Carteret Happy Thanksgiving. Donna Subject: North Carolina Taxpayers Book Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 16:42:28 -0500 From: Ellen Carper <echo2@bright.net> To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Donna; Could you look for a Robert Johns(t)on who had sons William and Thomas (and others)? I am hunting for a William Thomas Johnson b. either 1742 or 1750, and m. a Sarah?, They were in Rowan County, in the Salisbury area. I know this is quite a task, and would be so grateful. Thanks in advance. Best Wishes. Ellen Carper echo2@bright.net

In a message dated 11/24/99 4:34:53 PM Pacific Standard Time, bfaye@netscape.net writes: << I have a iMAC...will somebody please translate this for me, as I'm interested in the Time Line Family History idea too! Betty Faye >> LOL I have a PC, and I didn't understand a letter of it! I think the poor guy was asking for the web site address. Sorry I don't have it for him. Richard of Mebane, NC

--WebTV-Mail-28929-123 Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit hope this helps ! San Jose, California --WebTV-Mail-28929-123 Content-Disposition: Inline Content-Type: Message/RFC822 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Received: from mailsorter-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.121) by storefull-272.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:46:23 -0800 (PST) Received: by mailsorter-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id 368C025E; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:46:23 -0800 (PST) Delivered-To: vanmarvin@webtv.net Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by mailsorter-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id 6523266; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:46:18 -0800 (PST) Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id PAA00807; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:33:34 -0800 (PST) Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:33:34 -0800 (PST) Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 18:31:05 -0500 From: Bert Simerson <BertSimerson@compuserve.com> Subject: Time Line Family History Sender: Bert Simerson <BertSimerson@compuserve.com> Old-To: ROWAN ROOTS <ROWANROOTS-L@RootsWeb.com> Message-ID: <199911231831_MC2-8E54-6A71@compuserve.com> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by bl-11.rootsweb.com id PAA00773 Resent-Message-ID: <Fb2BRD.A.TM.ORyO4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/6809 X-Loop: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com Precedence: list Resent-Sender: ROWANROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com Anyone: I saw within the last month a description about a software program that will print out the family history superimposed over a timeline that shows events happening in the world at the time of a given family member's entry. But have misplaced the reference. Can anyone help? Thanks, Bert Simerson@Compuserve.com ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== Please consider joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data Cooperative?        http://www.rootsweb.com/ --WebTV-Mail-28929-123--

I have a iMAC...will somebody please translate this for me, as I'm interested in the Time Line Family History idea too! Betty Faye vanmarvin@webtv.net (marvin almond) wrote: > > --WebTV-Mail-28929-123 > Content-Type: Text/Plain; Charset=US-ASCII > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > hope this helps ! > > > San Jose, California > > > --WebTV-Mail-28929-123 > Content-Disposition: Inline > Content-Type: Message/RFC822 > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit > > Received: from mailsorter-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (209.240.198.121) by > storefull-272.iap.bryant.webtv.net with WTV-SMTP; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 > 15:46:23 -0800 (PST) > Received: by mailsorter-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) id 368C025E; > Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:46:23 -0800 (PST) > Delivered-To: vanmarvin@webtv.net > Received: from bl-11.rootsweb.com (bl-11.rootsweb.com [204.212.38.27]) by > mailsorter-102-3.bryant.webtv.net (WebTV_Postfix) with ESMTP id > 6523266; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:46:18 -0800 (PST) > Received: (from slist@localhost) by bl-11.rootsweb.com (8.9.3/8.9.3) id > PAA00807; Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:33:34 -0800 (PST) > Resent-Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:33:34 -0800 (PST) > Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 18:31:05 -0500 > From: Bert Simerson <BertSimerson@compuserve.com> > Subject: Time Line Family History > Sender: Bert Simerson <BertSimerson@compuserve.com> > Old-To: ROWAN ROOTS <ROWANROOTS-L@RootsWeb.com> > Message-ID: <199911231831_MC2-8E54-6A71@compuserve.com> > MIME-Version: 1.0 > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > Content-Disposition: inline > Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > X-MIME-Autoconverted: from quoted-printable to 8bit by bl-11.rootsweb.com > id PAA00773 > Resent-Message-ID: <Fb2BRD.A.TM.ORyO4@bl-11.rootsweb.com> > To: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/6809 > X-Loop: ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com > Precedence: list > Resent-Sender: ROWANROOTS-L-request@rootsweb.com > > Anyone: I saw within the last month a description about a software program > that will print out the family history superimposed over a timeline that > shows events happening in the world at the time of a given family member's > entry. But have misplaced the reference. > > Can anyone help? > > Thanks, > > Bert Simerson@Compuserve.com > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > Please consider joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > Cooperative? > ������ http://www.rootsweb.com/ > > > --WebTV-Mail-28929-123-- > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > Have you joined the Rootsweb Genealogical Data > Cooperative yet? > http://www.rootsweb.com/ ____________________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape WebMail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com.

Bert Simerson wrote: > Anyone: I saw within the last month a description about a software program > that will print out the family history superimposed over a timeline that > shows events happening in the world at the time of a given family member's > entry. Bert, Ultimate Family Tree by Pallladium Interactive will do this along with a host of other nice report types. I personally don't like the data entry portion of the program very much though. Rich Grimes

Donna - Can you see if the name Izah, (or variations thereof) Flinn, (Flynn )or James Flinn & what yr. Thanks Leigh Flinn, San Diego