Would someone who is also on the Forsythe and other and other county lists near Winston-Salem, NC re-distribute this on them if you haven't already seen it please? o Found in a Virginia antique shop, an old picture album (looks early 1900s) with pictures or notations about the following: The BINKLEY Family -- Henry BINKLEY, Jane BINKLEY, Robert BINKLEY, Jacob Andrew BINKLEY, Mary Lee BINKLEY, Elsie and Frank CANNON, Mary NIFONG, Nora and Metzel BINKLEY, Robert and Lolen ALLRED, Hazel BINKLEY HODEL, and Gladys BINKLEY LANCE. One picture was made by H. A. LINEBACK STUDIO in Winston-Salem, North Carolina. I could not just leave this there so I purchased for a small price. I would like to get it to someone who might be working on their family tree. Gloria Roop <troop@kimbanet.com> PERMISSION TO REPRINT articles from MISSING LINKS is granted unless specifically stated otherwise, PROVIDED: (1) the reprint is used for non-commercial, educational purposes; and (2) the following notice appears at the end of the article: Written by [author's name, e-mail address, and URL, if given]. Previously published by Julia M. Case and Myra Vanderpool Gormley, CG, Missing Links, Vol. 5, No. 5, 2 February 2000. RootsWeb: <http://www.rootsweb.com/>

>Could someone please tell me what books are out there that detail the >cemeteries in Rowan/Davidson Counties? I am interested in the title, >author, year and place that I can purchase such books. Thank you! When you want to know books that have been published for any location, one of the best places to start is with the FHL catalog at: http://familysearch.org/Search/searchcatalog.asp In this case look under Rowan County, NC, then cemeteries, and Davidson Co., NC then cemeteries. Authors, year, and place of publication are given. You will find are numerous books on cemeteries that have been published for both counties. As I recall from seeng on the FHL shelves, there are about 10 volumes for each county that have been published by their respective genealogical societies, not to mention publications by other authors. Rick Saunders http://pweb.netcom.com/~fzsaund/0.html

The Genealogical Society of Davidson County has a series of books available for purchase entitled "Cemetery Records of Davidson County" which include full name index in each volume. They are $25.00 each plus $2.50 P & H. The volumes are: Volume 1 - Western Section Volume 2 - Southern Section Volume 3 - Central Section Volume 4 - Northern Section Volume 5 - Lexington City Volume 6 - Lexington Area Volume 7- Thomasville City Volume 8 - Thomasville Area These can be ordered from the Genealogical Society at P.O. Box 1665, Lexington, NC 27293-1665 I have volume 3 Central Section which is comprised of the following townships: Conrad Hill, Silver Hill and Cotton Grove. I would be happy to do a look-up for you in the volume I have if you send me a name. Jeanette Wilson, Genealogy Dept. at the Lexington Library, Lexington, N. C. is a terrific source of info and has done look ups for me in the past. She stays busy but always responds. The library charges a very nominal fee for copying. The number is 336/242-2040. They have the complete series as well as books on marriage records, census records etc. Hope this info helps. Donna Clark Florida

At 11:00 PM 2/1/00 -0500, Doug Park - Descendant of Park Pioneer Settlers in VA/WV NC and wrote: >Fellow Rowan Listers, > >Could someone please tell me what books are out there that detail the >cemeteries in Rowan/Davidson Counties? I am interested in the title, >author, year and place that I can purchase such books. Thank you! I don't know about books, but the LDS has microfilmed surveys of at least some of the old Rowan Co. cemeteries. Check with your nearest FHC ("Mormon library"). Elizabeth Whitaker ELWHITAKER@ftc-i.net in Pickens, South Carolina

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----- Original Message ----- From: Carole Anderson <ccanders@nr.infi.net> To: <ROWANROOTS-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 02, 2000 9:43 AM Subject: [RowanRoots] Porter Family > I have just begun researching the Porter family in Rowan Co, and have > found what seem to be several "heads" of families, whom I would like to > tie together or leave separate, in hopes of finding my own Porters. >Thanks. > Carole Do any of your PORTERS tie in to JAMES DENFORD PORTER, b 2-15-1817, in Anderson Co., TN? He m SUSAN FRANCIS in Jacksonville, AL 11-3-1842. RICHARD A. BAIN dickbain@primeline.com

I have just begun researching the Porter family in Rowan Co, and have found what seem to be several "heads" of families, whom I would like to tie together or leave separate, in hopes of finding my own Porters. The family groups I've come up with seem to be: 1. Lawrence Porter ( who m. Betsy Park in 1817). There seems to be a Lawrence father/son here, not sure which is which. They lived on Dutch Second Creek. 2. James Porter who lived on Fourth Creek as early as 1786, may have sons, brothers named William, James, Thomas. 3. Thomas Porter who bought land on Walnut Creek in 1765. 4. James Porter who m. Jenny Thomas in 1809 and had a son James also, m. to Anna Luvinia Pool. 5. William Porter whose will was probated in 1761 and had only one son Robert. 6. Robert Porter who m. Elizabeth McBroom in 1767. 7. John Porter who m. Elizabeth Wasner, a widow, and John Porter who m. Elizabeth d/o John Beaver. I have more information on these men/families from court records, but would like to know if they are connected and anything on any of them, but mostly on 1)Lawrence and 4) James as these are definitely in my line. Thanks. Carole

In a message dated 2/2/00 9:11:59 AM Pacific Standard Time, Englandsx@aol.com writes: > I am looking for information on any of these names.. Any help would be > appreciated...Thanks...Sam I have a lot of Hulsey information. I will share anything I have and can put in touch with someone that has even more. What are the names and dates of your Hulsey line? Mine were also in NC. I have them back to Charles from England. Sandy

I am looking for information on any of these names.. Any help would be appreciated...Thanks...Sam

Hello, Still searching for anyone with an EDWARD SMITH b. in NC in 1814... could have been in the Rowan Co. area. DebbieRoth@usa.com Genealogy Researching Surnames: FRALEY (IL), HENSON (IL), DAVIS (KY,IN,MO), SMITH (NC,MO), POTTS (KY), HOLLIMAN (TN,MO)

Many thanks. There was a GEORGE SCHMIDT who was a resident at Wachovia (Moravian). The story is that he pressured that community to give him more freedom in profit-making from his trade (I think a blacksmith). I wonder if these are one and the same. Betty On Tue, 1 Feb 2000 15:06:25 EST SMITHMTN@aol.com writes: >In a message dated 2/1/00 7:25:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, >bapace2@juno.com >writes: > >> Her father was JOHN SMITH (1780-1812) married to POLLY (MARY?) >BRYAN. >> His father was PETER SMITH JR (around 1760?) and his father was >PETER >> SCHMIDT (around 1740?)--the dates here on the two Peters are my >estimates >> >My Smith/Schmidts line >Descendant of these lines eventually marry into Thomason line, my >paternal >grandmother's family > >Leonard SWINK b. Philadelphia 1755? D. 4/3/1803 in Rowan >Married Mary E. SMITH 7/18/1762-3/30/1845 > >Mary's parents >George Michael SMITH/SCHMIDT b. Germany 1727 d. 10/27/1814 >Married Mary BRUNER 1733-1/15/1814 > >George's Parents: >Peter SCHMIDT b. Germany date unknown d. 1767 M. Barbara last name >not >known > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

Hi everyone, I'll list my Smith line. They would have lived in the part of Rowan that became Iredell County, later Alexander County. 1 Thomas SMITH b: Abt. 1805 in NC +MIRA? b: Abt. 1810 2 Wesley SMITH b: Abt. 1832 2 Robert Franklin SMITH b: 24 February 1833 in ,Iredell, NC d: 03 July 1865 +Barbara Melissa PATTERSON b: 18 March 1830 in ,Iredell, NC m: 17 February 1857 d: 11 January 1864 in Hiddenite, Alexander, NC 3 Martha E.S. SMITH b: Abt. 1857 in NC +Pinkney (Pink) Leroy WARREN b: 02 October 1857 in Alexander, NC m: 04 August 1878 d: 24 June 1930 in Statesville, Iredell, NC 3 Mary S. SMITH b: 03 September 1859 d: 1891 3 Margaret Jane Elizabeth (Maggie) SMITH b: 25 April 1861 d: 02 January 1936 +Hugh WARREN m: 24 February 1883 3 William E. SMITH b: 17 November 1862 d: in OR 2 Philip SMITH b: Abt. 1836 2 Thomas A. SMITH b: Abt. 1844 in ,Iredell, NC Kim Rowlett docbrown @phonewave.net

Fellow Rowan Listers, Could someone please tell me what books are out there that detail the cemeteries in Rowan/Davidson Counties? I am interested in the title, author, year and place that I can purchase such books. Thank you! Sincerely, Doug Park Fayetteville, NC My Park and Cobb Family Home Page: http://home.att.net/~parkefamilyheritage/index3.html New Links Each Month! My line: Dr. Roger Parke, Sr. (1654-1731) and Anne Pattison (8th Great Grandparents) - NJ John Parke I. (1674-1757) and Sarah Smith (1675-1759) (7th Great Grandparents)- NJ/VA John Park II. (1707-1758) and Mary Davis (1710-1771) (6th Great Grandparents) - VA Ebenezer Park (1747-1839) and Tabitha Mills (1752-1826) (5th Great Grandparents)- VA/NC/KY John Park (1772-1828) and Mary (Polly) Peeler (1774- )(4th Great Grandparents)- NC/KY Jonah Park (1806-1884) and Melinda McMonegal (1810-1862) (3rd Great Grandparents )- KY John McMonegal Park (1827-1901) and Martha Cobb (1835-1911)(2nd Great grandparents) - KY William Henry Park I. (1860-1932) and Eleanor Simpson (1865-1944) (Great Grandparents)- KY William Holton Park (1900-1980) and Elveree Collins Durham (1911-1989) (Dolly) (Grandparents)-KY William Henry Park II. (1930- ) and Frances Theresa Prioriello (1932- ) (Father and Mother)- KY/MD

Hi, I am looking for information on the Grimes family. The following is all I have on this line: Hezekiah Grimes b.1852, d.1931 m. Rebecca Rollins Grant b.1855, d.1918 his parents were John and Nancy Grimes. They are in the 1850 Wayne co census. Hezekiah's daughter was Lola Anne Grimes. She married John Hardison and is buried at Daly's Chapel in LaGrange (Lenoir Co), NC. She was my GrGrandmother. Any help is greatly appreciated. Another Grimes researcher referred me to this list. Thank you, Kellie Crabtree Stevenson

Karen, I can add a little more to John Smith of Ijames history. 1850 census of Rowan Co. shows him with #2 wife Lydia Pinchback Holman Ratledge, widow of Thomas Henry Ratledge who died in 1841. Their combined family on that census. >>> Smiths of Rowan Co. - Descendants of John Smith. . . 1 John Smith b: June 06, 1799 Iredell Co., NC- d: March 06, 1872 in Center United Methodist Church Davie County . +Jane Beal Ijames b: January 17, 1803 d:abt 1842 Father: Beale Ijames Mother: Elizabeth Little m: February 14, 1825 ..... 2 William Osborne Smith b: Jan 21, 1826 - d. Dec 21, 1876 +Rachel Melvina McMahan ..... 2 James H. Smith b: abt 1827 ..... 2 Elizabeth Edith Smith b: June 8, 1828 d: March 6, 1862 +Lorenzo Pinckney Ratledge b: Nov 4, 1831 d: Aug 14 1909 Father: Thomas Henry Ratledge Mother: Lydia Pinchback Holman ..... 2 Beal Ijames Smith b: June 16, 1829 d: February 16, 1885 ......... +Martha Spry b: Abt. 1856 Father: Mother: m: August 30, 1878 in Davie County ..... 2 Pleasant Smith (Dr) b: April 05, 1831 d: November 05, 1854 ..... 2 Dr. John Lacy Smith b: d: +Betty C. Hawthorne ..... 2 Sarah Smith b: d: +St. Leger Beck m. 1859 John Smith second marriage . . . . +#2 Lydia Pinchback Holman b. Nov 13, 1808 Rowan Co., NC - d: Father: Jacob Holman Mother Lydia Pinchback ..... 2 Lydia Jane Smith b: 1848 Davie Co. NC + William Fields Note: Lydia's children by #1 marriage to Thomas Henry Ratledge: .......2 Emily Ratledge - b. 1829 d. 1878 m. Noah Gaither .......2 Lorenzo Pinkney Ratledge b. 4 Nov 1831 d. 14 Aug 1909 + Rebecca Stewart + Elizabeth Edith Smith .......2 David Holman Ratledge b. 2 Sept 1833 d. 7 Mar 1906 + Lavinia Gaither, Jane E. "Betty" Robison .......2 Isaac Ratledge b. 1834 d. 1932 + Rebecca Marinda Moore ......2 Daniel Jacob Ratledge b. 27 Oct 1838 d. 3 Aug 1892 +Martha Ann Heath ......2 William Henry Harrison Ratledge b. 2 Oct 1840 d. 11 Sept 1923 +Martha M. Chaffin Pamela Geisler Smith Gresham, OR

Recently I posted a query on the list and gave tombstone inscriptions for John Bowlby Palmer and Margaret Pennington both buried in the Walnut Grove Methodist Church Cemetery in Franklin Co., TN. Margaret is believed to have first married Isaac Rich who died in 1787 in Rowan Co., NC and is buried in Eaton Baptist Church Cem. in present-day Davie Co., NC. The tombstone inscriptions were taken from the Franklin Co., TN Cemetery Book published in 1984 by the Franklin Co. Historical Society. This morning my husband and I went to the Walnut Grove Cem. to photograph the tombstones and low and behold John Bowlby Palmer's stone very clearly had his age as 51 NOt 54. Therefore, since the stone states he died Oct. 1825 aged 51 years, he was born in 1774 NOT 1771. Please note this correction. Joy Q. Gallagher Winchester, Franklin Co., TN

In a message dated 2/1/00 7:25:27 AM Eastern Standard Time, bapace2@juno.com writes: > Her father was JOHN SMITH (1780-1812) married to POLLY (MARY?) BRYAN. > His father was PETER SMITH JR (around 1760?) and his father was PETER > SCHMIDT (around 1740?)--the dates here on the two Peters are my estimates > My Smith/Schmidts line Descendant of these lines eventually marry into Thomason line, my paternal grandmother's family Leonard SWINK b. Philadelphia 1755? D. 4/3/1803 in Rowan Married Mary E. SMITH 7/18/1762-3/30/1845 Mary's parents George Michael SMITH/SCHMIDT b. Germany 1727 d. 10/27/1814 Married Mary BRUNER 1733-1/15/1814 George's Parents: Peter SCHMIDT b. Germany date unknown d. 1767 M. Barbara last name not known

I would like to know how many researchers getting this list are researching the Smith name in Rowan County. If its not too much trouble I would love it if you would either post your Smiths to the list or post to me individually. I will start with my Smiths that I am researching. This John Smith was on Bear Creek on original Boone land he bought from Henry Helpher in Davie part of Rowan County and donated the land for Center Methodist Church where many of his children are buried. Descendants of John Smith 1 John Smith b: August 11, 1788 d: November 24, 1837 . +Sarah d: 1844-1845 Father: Mother: m: Abt. 1807 ..... 2 John Smith b: Abt. 1815 d: Aft. 1888 ......... +Letitia Keller b: July 06, 1829 Father: Isaac Keller Mother: m: January 09, 1857 ..... 2 Andrew Smith b: Abt. 1807 ......... +Sarah Penry b: Abt. 1814 Father: James Penry Mother: Hannah Boone ..... 2 Eliza Smith b: May 06, 1814 d: September 25, 1905 in Center United Methodist Church Davie County ......... +Simeon Seaford b: October 26, 1814 d: February 09, 1895 Father: Mother: m: November 20, 1841 ..... 2 [1] Mary B. Smith b: May 07, 1810 d: June 24, 1898 ......... +Boone Penry b: March 13, 1807 d: August 29, 1836 Father: James Penry Mother: Hannah Boone ..... *2nd Husband of [1] Mary B. Smith: ......... +Masten G Richards b: February 05, 1807 d: October 17, 1889 Father: Mother: ..... 2 Susanna Smith b: 1808 ......... +John Penry b: 1805 Father: James Penry Mother: Hannah Boone m: December 13, 1827 ..... 2 Sarah Ann Smith b: May 10, 1822 d: April 22, 1892 in Anderson Family Cemetary ......... +William H. Anderson b: July 17, 1822 d: April 14, 1887 in Anderson Family Cemetary Father: Garland Anderson Mother: Sarah Frost m: September 27, 1848 this John Smith is called John Smith of Ijames also in the Davie part of Rowan county. I think he was married more than once but haven't been able to pin him down. Descendants of John Smith 1 John Smith b: June 06, 1799 d: March 06, 1872 in Center United Methodist Church Davie County . +Jane Bell Ijames b: January 17, 1803 Father: Beale Ijames Mother: Elizabeth Little m: February 14, 1825 ..... 2 Pleasant Smith b: April 05, 1831 d: November 05, 1854 ..... 2 Beal I. Smith b: June 16, 1829 d: February 16, 1885 ......... +Martha Spry b: Abt. 1856 Father: Mother: m: August 30, 1878 in Davie County ..... 2 William O. Smith This Thomas Lewis Smith was in the Yadkin part of which was orig. Rowan then Surry then Yadkin county. He lived near the Mocks and Binkleys Descendants of Thomas Lewis Smith 1 Thomas Lewis Smith b: August 31, 1831 d: March 17, 1915 in Enon . +Margaret Binkley b: September 20, 1832 d: October 24, 1912 in Enon Father: John Binkley Mother: Sarah Sally Mock m: December 09, 1852 in Yadkin Co. NC ..... 2 Sarah Ann Smith b: December 12, 1856 in Yadkin Co. NC d: March 31, 1919 ......... +Joseph S. Binkley b: February 12, 1858 in Yadkin Co. NC d: March 17, 1941 Father: Henry Binkley Mother: Sibbie Logan ..... 2 Clemintine Smith ..... 2 [1] John Julius H. Smith b: Abt. 1854 ......... +Julia Head Father: Head Mother: Patsy m: August 05, 1873 ..... *2nd Wife of [1] John Julius H. Smith: ......... +Dora Brandon Father: W.A. Brandon Mother: m: August 25, 1883 ..... 2 Mary Smith ..... 2 William C. Smith ......... +Ellen A. Nicholson Father: Mother: m: July 17, 1888 ..... 2 George W. Smith b: June 09, 1871 d: November 29, 1960 ......... +Daisy Bran b: December 27, 1875 d: April 09, 1972 Father: Henry Thomas Bran Mother: Rebecca Hendrix m: August 13, 1896 ..... 2 Huston L. Smith ......... +Laura L. Binkley b: April 10, 1878 d: November 18, 1909 in Woodland Cemetary Winston Salem Father: Peter Binkley Mother: Henrietta Cornelia Hauser m: August 25, 1895 ..... 2 Kezziah Smith b: August 03, 1858 d: October 22, 1934 ......... +Dock F. Fulp b: May 10, 1858 d: November 04, 1930 Father: Frank Fulp Mother: Susan m: December 22, 1901 ..... 2 Nancy K. Smith b: 1859 This Samuel Smith lived in both Surry County and Holemans Crossroads in Davie part of Rowan County. his father is thought by some to be a William Smith of Surry county. Descendants of Samuel Smith 1 [1] Samuel Smith b: Abt. 1765 d: May 1830 in Holemans Crossroads Davie County . +Sarah Powell b: 1765-1766 Father: John Powell Mother: Susanna Robertson ..... 2 Elizabeth Smith ......... +Samuel Ward d: in Iredell County Father: Mother: ..... 2 Temperance Smith d: Abt. 1831 ......... +Evan Ellis b: 1804 in Wilkes County NC d: 1860 in Alexandria Madison Co. Indiana Father: Mother: m: March 31, 1824 in Rowan Co. NC ..... 2 Anna Smith b: August 10, 1784 d: October 31, 1861 ......... +Peter Saner b: March 05, 1783 d: March 31, 1860 Father: Mother: ..... 2 Susanna Smith b: Abt. 1792 ......... +Joseph Tomlinson Father: Mother: m: January 13, 1812 in Rowan Co. NC ..... 2 Sarah Smith b: 1793-1796 d: 1881 in Bedford County Tennessee ......... +Elijah Arnold b: October 06, 1796 d: July 29, 1867 in Bedford County Tennessee Father: Samuel Arnold Mother: Elizabeth Wright m: 1819-1820 ..... 2 Nancy M. Smith b: Abt. 1795 d: Aft. 1870 ......... +Benjamin Stonestreet b: 1790 in Cheraw SC? d: July 22, 1845 in Wilkes County NC Father: Edward Stonestreet Mother: Margery Wright m: January 18, 1814 in Rowan Co. NC ..... 2 Jane Smith b: April 16, 1797 d: November 02, 1857 in Center United Methodist Church ......... +George Coone b: February 26, 1797 d: October 03, 1880 in Center United Methodist Church Father: Jacob Coone Mother: Catherine m: May 03, 1820 in Davie County ..... 2 Margaret Smith b: 1802 d: June 19, 1895 in Boomer NC Zion Hill Baptist church cemetery ......... +Thomas D. Gibbs d: Abt. 1840 Father: Mother: m: December 07, 1826 ..... 2 Samuel Powell Smith b: 1804 d: 1883 in Wilkes County buried on Martin Farm ......... +Amelia Matilda Martin b: 1801 d: September 15, 1877 in buried on Martin farm Father: Robert Martin Mother: Amelia Wright m: January 04, 1825 in Wilkes County buried on Martin Farm *2nd Wife of [1] Samuel Smith: . +Anna K. d: Aft. 1836 in Wayne County Kentucky Father: Mother: now I encourage all of you with Smiths to put them in a roll call so we might be able to fit some pieces together. Karen Hunter

Dear Debbie, I am not sure whether I have replied to this or not--I have been having a lot of trouble with my hard drive. My MARGARET SMITH (1806-1895) was married to ISAAC EARNHART (1807-1846). Her father was JOHN SMITH (1780-1812) married to POLLY (MARY?) BRYAN. His father was PETER SMITH JR (around 1760?) and his father was PETER SCHMIDT (around 1740?)--the dates here on the two Peters are my estimates only to allow for generations. One of the Peters was probably the Peter Smith who died in 1767). All of this was in Rowan Co., NC. My information came from a genealogist in the Rowan History Room, and I have no documentation in my possession. It is possible that my Smith/Schmidt line were Moravians originally. Betty Pace On Tue, 25 Jan 2000 03:00:43 -0800 "Debbie Roth" <emkr@temecula.com> writes: >Hello Everyone, >I was wondering if anyone has any SMITHS that were in the Rowan Co. NC >area around 1814 that traveled to Platte Co. MO when it opened for >homesteading in 1840? Or possibly access to census information of the >area, around 1800, that would show Smiths and MCCLAINS living close >together. I am looking for the parents of my GGG Grandfather EDWARD >SMITH who was born in 1814, well educated and traveled to Platte Co. >MO in 1840. Since he married a Lucinda McClain in Platte Co MO who's >Grandfather was JOHN MCCLAIN from Rowan Co. NC, I thought that could >be a lead. Please contact me if you can help. >Thank you, >Debbie >emkr@temecula.com >Genealogy Researching Surnames: FRALEY (IL), HENSON (IL), DAVIS >(KY,IN,MO), SMITH (NC,MO), POTTS (KY), HOLLIMAN (TN,MO) > > > > >==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== >Please consider joining the Rootsweb Genealogical Data >Cooperative? >       http://www.rootsweb.com/ > ________________________________________________________________ YOU'RE PAYING TOO MUCH FOR THE INTERNET! Juno now offers FREE Internet Access! Try it today - there's no risk! For your FREE software, visit: http://dl.www.juno.com/get/tagj.

John Wyatt has land adjoining William Dowling(Dooling) on Forbush Creek and Brooks Road 24Dec1794. This is easily locateable in present-day Yadkin CO NC, formerly Surry, formerly Rowan. Ref Surry Co NC Deed Abstracts Bk g and h 1795 t0 1800. AL Hudson >. (do you need to determine geographical locations, try me?)