Additional Information in this posting: ------ From: [email protected] To: [email protected] Date: Sun, 28 Sep 2003 09:28:28 EDT Subject: Re: [NCGuilford] Legal Ages Laws on this subject varied from state to state, as it was state law and not federal law that set the limits. The information given out by Helen Leary at a recent NCGS regional conference about NC legal ages is as follows (hopefully the Rootsweb filters won't make gobbly-gook out of this; if they do, then e-mail me directly, and I'll reply with the information): Taxable Ages: 1715-1777 16+ 1777-1784 there were various experients with the limits, e.g.: 1779 21+ (with a value of less than 400 pounds) 1782 21+ unless married 1784-1801 21+ and until the age of 60 1801-1817 ages 21-50 1817-1970 ages 21-45 The following citations are from Helen Leary's book, North Carolina Research: Genealogy and Local History. I would highly recommend purchasing it for anyone researching in NC records. You can order it through any good genealogy book dealer. "Although a man could buy or be granted land before he was 21, but he could not sell it in his own name until the age of 21." (p. 43) "A single woman or a widow could buy land and, if twenty-one or over, sell it herself, but before 1868 a married woman normally could not - all the land a wife owned before marriage or inherited during it came under her husband's control. The 1868 North Carolina Constitution recognized the rights of married women to own separate property, and more liberal laws in this regard were passed thereafter. Even during the colonial period, however, a married woman who had been declared "feme sole" by a court or the legislature (e.g., when separated from her husband) could buy land and sell it in her own name." (p.43) "Between 1784 and 1868 NC law proivded that a widow's dower right extended only to lifetime possession of a third of the real estate her husband owned when he died. This is unlike the dower laws of colonial NC and those of other states, which provided that the wife had a one-third dower interest in all lands her husband owned at any time during the marriage - her "dower release" was needed for him to convey clear title to any of it. This difference must be kept in mind; until the colonial system was reinstated in 1868 (effective in 1869) the appearance of the wife's name or signature on a deed, or a statement appended to it that she had expressed her agreement to the sale, normally indicates that 1) the land had come into the family through her (usually by inheritance) and her release was needed to clear the title; or 2) the grantors or the grantees were recent immigrants from a state or country where the colonial form of dower was still in effect and habit sparked the release; or 3) the lady was not the seller's wife, she was his mother, releasing her dower right of possession to a third of the tract being sold (i.e., it had been her husband's before his death)." (p. 43) Children age 14 and older could choose their own guardian but remained minors until the age of 21. (page 189) If you want to read more about these subjects and others, do buy the book. It is relatively inexpensive (about $45) for 626 pages of wonderful information and advice, and worth every penny when working in NC records. Katherine D. Benbow ______________________________

--------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Ruth Clark Subject : Headrightsd &] Legal Ages Betty In research would indicate that if an infant came with his family -- his father claimed him as a headright. This research has been in Virginia on south the Georgia. Headrights were not a scommon in Mew England and the middle states. One boy was 10 and he was a headright and was called a servant. Ruth Keys Clark ===== Ruth Keys Clark, Kansas __________________________________

Hello, I am currently looking for the parents, and any additional information that anyone might have about John Francis (M.?) Ross. I have checked Census records, marriage records, as well as others and I have found him in one or two places, but so far I have not come up with any helpful information, as the only information I am really searching for is the name of his parents, and then possibly birthdates, and any other brothers or sisters he might have had. I am really looking to find him in the 1850 Census, or possibly 1860 census, as this should list his parents. I think I found him in the Forsyth County 1850 census, as the age matched up. He was living in the William P. Henley residence. The birth date we have is 1846, and the 1850 census lists him as 5 years of age, his approximate age. In the same residence is an Amanda P. Ross. We think at this point that this could possible be his mother. She is 30, meaning that she probably wouldn't be a sister, but possibly a relative? The only information I have is: "John Francis Ross married Moselle Partee Foard on 6 Nov 1878. John Francis Ross was born on 12 May 1846 in Kernersville, Forsyth, NC. He died on 9 May 1889 in Salisbury, Rowan Co., NC. They had at least one child, Minnie Foard Ross who was born in 1886. She married a William R. Kimball. I am also looking for the parents of William R. Kimball." If anyone might have any information about John Francis (M.) Ross please contact me at: [email protected] I had him as just John Francis Ross, but the IGI lists him, and just him unfortunantly as: John F. M. Ross. If anyone has any books, or resources they might be able to check for those areas in North Carolina, Forsyth County, possibly Guilford County (neighboring county) and Rowan County, or even better if you are related to him and have more information, please contact me. If anyone possibly could also do a lookup if they are in that area I would be very grateful. Any record of death, obituary, or anything that might list his parents is what I am looking for. His parents are the main thing that I am searching for right now. Thank You, Joseph [email protected]

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Bob Evans <[email protected]> asked: >Does anyone know at what age a person had to be to claim a headright for >him/her? I'm not clear whether you are asking at what age a person had to be to claim a headright for paying for either their own and/or someone else's transportation into Virginia, or if you are asking what age did a person have to be to claimed as a headright by the person who paid for transporting them into the colony. I think you are asking the latter, for which there was no age limit on those claimed as a headright. Children could be claimed as a headright. Rick Saunders

Does anyone have information about Jonathan Merrill, the son of Capt. Ben Merrill, and his wife Nancy Elliot? Joe McDonald

Joe, I think so since that is when you are of age to hold property. But I am not totally certain. Headright was an early term used to indicate that a holder of land first got it as a first planter --offered by the king to encourage settlement of the colony in the early days. It then went out of existence. My 1610 Paces were first planters at Jamestown VA and held headrights for just paying their own fares over. They also received headrights for paying the fares of several indentured servants, I believe. All were called headrights. I am not certain that term ever applied to NC. Betty\ On Sun, 28 Sep 2003 10:27:13 -0400 "Joe McDonald" <[email protected]> writes: > Betty, Does this mean 16 is the age for headright? > Joe > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty A. Pace" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, September 28, 2003 4:12 AM > Subject: [RowanRoots] Legal Ages > > > > This applies to VA I know, but I would bet that it also applies to > NC. > > See below pasting. > > Betty Pace > > > > Subject: age of legal action > > I will post this again as it may help others analyize the records > they > > find. > > > > AGE OF LEGAL ACTION > > > > >From birth inherit > > Enumerated in census > > > > 12 years female witness documents > > > > 14 years male testify in court > > choose guardian > > be punished for a crime > > sign contracts > > act as executor > > bequeath personal by will > > marry > > > > 16 years be taxed > > muster into militia > > porcession land > > take possession of land holdings > > > > 18 years practice a trade > > > > 18 years female release guardian > > > > 21 years male release guardian > > devise land by will > > be taxed > > plead and sue in court > > be naturalized > > fill public office > > serve on jury > > vote > > > > > > These ages are for the colonies and for the states up to after > the > > Mexican War. There were some ethnic and/or religious groups that > did > > not follow these restrictions and found ways around them. The > Quakers > > did not allow public marriages. The Dutch along the Hudson in New > York > > had joint wills so the children were not taken away from a > surviving > > parent. In PA parents could be legal guardians of their own > children > > if the child was mentioned in their grandparents will(s) - there > are > > other exceptions. > > > > > > ===== > > > > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > > RowanRoots is a genealogy/history discussion list. Please stay on > topic. > >

Subject: Re: JOHN & DAVID L. POOL FAMILY-DESCENDANCY DAVID L(awton?). POOL(B.1810-13) was a silversmith in Salisbury, Rowan Co., NC after the death of his father JOHN POOL(wife ELIZABETH, d.1839) in 1832. David was the executor of his father's will. Later David L. Pool sold his share of the Rowan Co. plantation/property to his brother Joseph. Other children of John and Elizabeth Pool (besides David L.) named in the will were: 1)ELIZABETH POOL (b.6/1807-d.1834) m.PETER M. BROWN (m.1828) John Lewis Brown m. Nannie Jane Kerr Margaret C. Brown m. ___ Billiard Mary Brown - (died young - no information) 2)JOSEPH POOL(abt.1815-1849) m. Mary Jane HARDIE (father John HARDIE), 1 Sep.1840 Children of Joseph from 1850 census: John H. Pool - b. abt. 1842 Joseph Alexander . Pool - b. abt. 1845 James L. Pool - b. abt. 1843 Mary E. Pool - b. abt. 1847 Anna V. H. Pool -b. abt.1849 (what does the V stand for?) After 1850, the widow & children have moved to Catawba Co NC 3)MARY POOL - (same as Mariah?) 4)MARIAH POOL - m. Tobias LEMLY July 30, 1840 5)ELIZA POOL - m. Caleb SIMPSON Nov. 4, 1845 6)REBECCA POOL(b.abt.1821-d.abt.1848) m. Thomas T. MAXWELL (b.abt.1815--m. Nov 30, 1842) Children of Rebecca & Thomas from 1850 census: Maria E. - b. abt. 1844 Lavina - b. abt. 1845 John L. - b. abt. 1847 Children of DAVID L(awton?). POOL and Angeline BULLIN: 1)Margaret POOLE m. Pascall CALLICUTT 2)Clayton Wakefield POOLE (b.1848-d.1908) m. Susan JULIAN (m. 1872) a. Walter Wakefield POOLE (1873-1946) m. Ida CECIL Cornelia Elizabeth POOLE Doris Belle POOLE Samuel Cecil POOLE Margaret Burke POOLE b. George Grayson POOLE (1875-1851) Georgia Louise POOLE Alice Carlton POOLE Richard POOLE Morris/Maurice POOLE c. Roxanne Olivia POOLE (b. 1877) m. Charles Whitehead MOWERY Cathlene MOWERY Wakefield MOWERY Doris MOWERY (I am told this family moved to Raleigh, Wake Co., NC) d. Mary Ann POOLE (1879-1953Norfolk,VA) m. Charles Wakefield PACE Sr.--MY LINE e. Henderson/Hartwell Horton POOLE (b. 1883) m. Eunice ___ (Hamlet, NC) Harry POOLE Eunice POOLE f. David Roscoe POOLE (b.1881-d. young) 3)Abraham H. POOLE m. Laura HULIN a. Angelina/Lina POOLE b. Mittie POOLE c. David Lawton POOLE m. Callie Stoner d. Abram Murph POOLE m. Peggy Louise Whitman e. Leo Cleveland POOLE f. Annus Cornelia POOLE g. Gracie Louisa POOLE h. Jessie Alma POOLE 4)Mary L. POOLE m. Fred MENIUS (m. 1873) 5)Sarah POOLE m. Andrew HORTON (Providence, RI & Rowan Co.NC) 6)Isabel POOLE (these last two may really be the same) DAVID L. POOL is the father of my ggrandfather CLAYTON W. POOLE (1848-1908) of Salisbury, Rowan Co., NC. Clayton's mother was ANGELINE BULLEN/BOLIN/BULLARD of Rowan Co., NC; in the 1850 Rowan Census she was living with a BULLAND family and the census taker gave both ANGELINE and CLAYTON the surname of the host family (CATHERINE BULLAND), but this may be her mother CATY BULLEN. I originally couldn't find David L. Pool in the 1850 Rowan census. The Vincent papers gave this reference for David L. Pool on the 1850 Rowan census, on p. 138, 420.430, and a kind lady did a lookup for me. I don't know what the addition by the Asst.Marshall means.. Mary J. POOL is probably the widow of JOSEPH POOL who died Jan 9, 1849 (he married MARY J. HARDIE in Rowan Co., NC. Sept. 1, 1840; her parents were John H. and Mary HARDIE, prominent in Rowan Co.NC). 1850 Rowan NC CENSUS - DAVID L. POOL Living in the house with James Dougherty, 51 - b. NC - Blacksmith $1200 Elizabeth Clary, age 63 - b. NC - $1300 (nee HORAH) David Pool, age 37 b. NC Silversmith 9 Slaves Horse Shoeing, other articles valued at ? At the back of the census book is this note: The names below were this day April 4th, 1851 added by the request of th Asst Marshall. Mary J. POOL, age 31 - b. VA. - $1000.00 John H., age 8 - b. NC Joseph A., age 5 - b. NC James L., ,age 7 - b. NC Mary E., age 3 - b. NC Anna V.H., age 11/12 - b. NC Mary H. HARDIE, age 50 - b. Va. (mother) Martha, age 23 - b. NC Susan E., age 17 - b. NC Caleb, age 18 Mulatto 2 slaves I have tried to research JOHN POOL (d.1832--wife Elizabeth), but there were two John Pools in Rowan Co. in this time frame. One was descended from the Dutch Van Pools and apparently the other was an English Pool/Poole. There was a family story that we were Dutch and originally Van Pools, but this might just be a story. One Van Pool researcher told me that the property of my John Pool was not located in the same area as the other Van Pools, but I don't know if this is accurate or relevant. In addition, that Van Pool researcher said that my John Pool was too wealthy (owned slaves--I have a document on this) and therefore could not be a Van Pool. Below are the entries from deed books (Jo White Linn) and McCubbins Files which I know were the property of John Pool and/or David L. Pool. The spelling in the McCubbins Files is erratic, but the deeds may have contained spelling errors. My pg. 33 Sheet Heading - JOHN POOLE Book 27, p. 284. Ct.---1820, Esq. Archibald Henderson--no wife signs--lets JOHN POOL (both of Rowan Co) have 470 acres on the north fork of Crane Creek near the line of Salisbury, next Dr. Newman (formerly), Albert Torrence, old line of ---Waddle, the 50 acre tract (which said Henderson bought of Elizabeth Savage), Daniel Cress, Alfred Mccoy & ---Horah, for $2000.00, witnessed & proved by Alexander Long Sr. in Nov. 1822. (This is two tracts: one soldhim by Conrad Brim & the other by Elizabeth Savage). Book 27, pg. 223; July 4, 1821, Alfred Mccay--no wife signs--lets JOHN POOL (both of Rowan Co.) have 18-3/10 acres next town of Salisbury, by the road, old line of Archibald Henderson & the bond, for $185.00, witnessed by Will F. Kelly & Thomas Allison & acknowdledged in Aug. 1822. On same sheet of paper (I presume she knew David was the son of this John Pool): Book 35, pg. 292, March 16, 1841, DAVID L. POOL--no wife signs--lets JOSEPH POOL (both of Rowan Co.) have his moiety of 666-3/4 acres (which had been willed them by deceased JOHN POOL who got it from Thomas G. Polk, William Macay & Archibald Henderson) for $1250.00, witnessed by J. F. Hardie & D. A. David & proved by the latter in Aug. 1841." There are other John Pool entries but it is only these that I know are our John Pool, and he could still be a Van Pool since the Van Pools sometimes dropped the Van. It is only the location of the property that will tell me whether my people are part of that group or not. It does seem like a lot of money for that day and time. David L. Pool went to Philadelphia to study to be a silversmith/clockmaker and he returned in 1832 and set up shop - his father had died, and he was executor of the estate. No mention of an older brother. The following land transaction is probably our JOHN POOL (from book on Michael Braun/Brown) Book 22, p. 270 - Michael Brown sold 538 acres remaining in the Continental John" tract to JOHN POOL for $1400 by deed. This "tract covered about all of present day Granite Quarry." (date unknown but about 1812, I think) Book 24, p. 94 - In 1814 Michael's son Moses, re-puchased 280 acres of this property back from JOHN POOL. LAND OF JOSEPH POOL (brother of DAVID L. POOL) >From the McCubbins film: HEADING; JOSEPH POOL (CRANE CREEK) Book 40, page 147: Dec. 24, 1853. MARY JANE POOL (widow of Jos. Pool) & Julius D. Ramsey let Joseph Fisher (all of Rowan Co., NC) have 300 acres on Crane Creek, the public road from Charlotte to Salisbury, next William S. Macay, M. L. Roberts, Mathias Boger, David Beaver, Thomas T. Maxwell & Riley Misenheemer (which E. D. Austin as administrator of deceased Joseph Pool sold by order of May term of court 1851, but excepts 100 feet on each side of the railroad & keeping this in possession until next Jan. 1st). for $3000.00, witnessed by James E. Kerr & acknowledged on Dec. 24, 1853. Book 38, page 601; June 7, 1848, JOSEPH POOL--no wife signs--lets Mathias Boger (both of Rowan Co., NC) have 1 acre, 28----1 rood & 1 pole on the public road next Howard L. Robards, for $126.17. Witnessed by L. D. Bencini & Thomas T. Maxwell & proved by the latter in Nov. 1849. Nook 37, page 519: Jan. 7, 1846, JOSEPH POOL--no wife signs--lets Francis R. ROUCHE (both of Rowan Co., NC) have 84-3/8 acres next F. R. Rouche, ___Beaver & J. POOL FOR $580.06?, witnessed by A. W. Brandon & James L. Cowan & proved by the latter in Feb. 1846. (This is part of 672 acres belonging to JOSEPH POOL). [mY NOTE; I wonder who this J. Pool is, unless some land is still in the name of the father of Joseph and David L. Pool. These are from the badly typed notes of Mrs. Mamie McCubbins and while she is usually accurate, I know already of one error she made. She said that next to Clayton Pool was buried his wife Susan Bogle--we know from the dates on the tombstones that this should be Susan Julian Pool.) I hope someone sees a connection. Betty A. Pace [email protected]

This applies to VA I know, but I would bet that it also applies to NC. See below pasting. Betty Pace Subject: age of legal action I will post this again as it may help others analyize the records they find. AGE OF LEGAL ACTION >From birth inherit Enumerated in census 12 years female witness documents 14 years male testify in court choose guardian be punished for a crime sign contracts act as executor bequeath personal by will marry 16 years be taxed muster into militia porcession land take possession of land holdings 18 years practice a trade 18 years female release guardian 21 years male release guardian devise land by will be taxed plead and sue in court be naturalized fill public office serve on jury vote These ages are for the colonies and for the states up to after the Mexican War. There were some ethnic and/or religious groups that did not follow these restrictions and found ways around them. The Quakers did not allow public marriages. The Dutch along the Hudson in New York had joint wills so the children were not taken away from a surviving parent. In PA parents could be legal guardians of their own children if the child was mentioned in their grandparents will(s) – there are other exceptions. =====

I asked for and received this question before, but have lost the answer. Does anyone know at what age a person had to be to claim a headright for him/her? Any help would be appreciated. Bob Evans

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In a message dated 9/18/03 7:02:28 PM, [email protected] writes: << Correct site for the LDS Church is www.familysearch.org.......not familysearch.com, but I'm sure you all know that. Peggy >> Thank you for that clarification, but even if you enter it as dot com it takes you to dot org. I checked all of those sites and only two had anything to do with genealogy...one sends you to ebay, another sends you to ancestry.com and all the other sites are bogus. Sherry

Correct site for the LDS Church is www.familysearch.org.......not familysearch.com, but I'm sure you all know that. Peggy -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 6:45 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [RowanRoots] SCAMS Familysearch.com a scam? This is the LDS Morman website. I know there is some misinformation on there, but it's pretty darn reliable. ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from RowanRoots-L send a message from the address you subscribed from to [email protected] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.

Familysearch.com a scam? This is the LDS Morman website. I know there is some misinformation on there, but it's pretty darn reliable.

familsearch.com is the LDS SITE!!! Yikes!! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Myrna Madigan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: September 17, 2003 10:00 AM Subject: [RowanRoots] SCAMS > Hello listers, > > Just FYI, following is a list of some genealogy scam links on the web that > are out to take you! Most of these sites are hosted by the same > creep. Also, FYI, a gentleman named Gene Olson has declared an all-out > personal campaign against the perpetrators of this enormous hoax and > fraud. Plus there is a neat website called "gensucks.com" (really) that > deals with the pitfalls of family history research. > > For now, courtesy of Papa Joe Tucker, of "Tucker Cousins"... > > GENEALOGY SCAM SITES > FAMILY DISCOVERY IS A SCAM > Also Known As: > genealogydevelopments.com > familydiscovery.com > genealogyfinders.com > genealogyfinders.net > aboent.com > genlocator.com > genseeker.com > genseekers.com > genealogy-express.com > gentechs.com > familysearch.com > familyexpress.com > > You REALLY don't want to go there, > Myrna Madigan > > > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > The list administrator can be reached at [email protected] >

Regarding the list of genealogy scams, I am at a loss to see how familysearch.com is a scam. Then again, maybe I'm a little dense. I have used this site numerous times for years, have gotten a great deal of information and clues without cost. The only change I noted after change of management was before you could get a reel# and order from LDS and view at an LDS church location. Now you must order the CD. They still list some addresses of contributors who can perhaps be contacted. It is also the only location I have found that you can put in the father's name, mother's first name and get a listing of children born to those parents names.

Hello listers, Just FYI, following is a list of some genealogy scam links on the web that are out to take you! Most of these sites are hosted by the same creep. Also, FYI, a gentleman named Gene Olson has declared an all-out personal campaign against the perpetrators of this enormous hoax and fraud. Plus there is a neat website called "gensucks.com" (really) that deals with the pitfalls of family history research. For now, courtesy of Papa Joe Tucker, of "Tucker Cousins"... GENEALOGY SCAM SITES FAMILY DISCOVERY IS A SCAM Also Known As: genealogydevelopments.com familydiscovery.com genealogyfinders.com genealogyfinders.net aboent.com genlocator.com genseeker.com genseekers.com genealogy-express.com gentechs.com familysearch.com familyexpress.com You REALLY don't want to go there, Myrna Madigan

Thanks to all, each and every one of you, of the more than 100 replies I received to my query about Genealogy Techs. I received not ONE positive reply, only negative warnings, and some rather specific notes on the perpetrator of this scam - even a copy of his indictment in Iowa for trying to run a similar scam up there. I knew there were some crooks out there but had no idea of the extent. Be very, very careful before you spend money on something that seems too good to be true - it usually is. Cookie, a Hoosier Boy in Florida << [email protected] >>

Cookie, Don't think this will help you much, but I found the following marriages: John Rough - Mary Kepley, Aug. 3, 1820, Rowan Co, NC James Willis - Nancy Coats, Dec. 17, 1804, Rowan Co Philip Willis - Edy Coats, Dec. 28, 1813, Rowan Co. Alexander Willis - Elizabeth Rough, Dec. 4, 1840, Davidson Co, NC. Marsha IL -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2003 2:50 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [RowanRoots] North Carolina information ? Greetings to the List, and to many cousins, I'm sure... I descend from Alexander WILLIS and Elizabeth ROUGH, who were, reportedly, married in Davidson County, NC, on December 4, 1840. Alexander WILLIS was the son of James WILLIS, b. 1786, Rowan Co., NC, and Martha Patsy COATS, b. abt 1782, in NC. I do not know the Christian name of Elizabeth ROUGH's father but her mother may have been Mary C. KEPLEY. Is there any record of a ROUGH-KEPLEY marriage around 1760? Is anyone researching the ROUGH family? Is ROUGH pronounced about the same as RAUCH ? Sort of like ROW/HOW/NOW? Are there any KEPLEYs in NC? TIA for any help! Cookie, a Hoosier Boy in Florida << [email protected] >>