It is on-line at HeritageQuest. I just searched Rowan County (they have lots more, too). If you are lucky your local library may have a subscription which you can access with your library card number. I got it by subscribing to the Godfrey Memorial Library, www.godfrey.org . There are other subscription libraries and historical or genealogical societies that offer it. Elaine Oakes > I believe you're talking about A History of Rowan County, North Carolina, > ("containing sketches of Prominent Families and Distinguished Men, with an > Appendix"), by Rev. Jethro Rumple. It was originally published in 1881 by J. J. > Bruner of Salisbury - who was an ancestor of my husband. It has been republished > since by Heritage Books, Inc., of Bowie, MD. I am not aware of a Adobe > Acrobat version of this on CD or the internet. A brief Google search didn't turn > it up. Does anyone else know anything different? > > Katherine Dick Benbow

Yes, I know it well. I have the CD... It contains .pdf files of both the translation AND the scans of the original book... Please don't cover me up with lookup requests, though! Just the file for their translation is 358 pages! Jan Robison Mom's side is almost totally from Rowan! ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 9:08 PM Subject: Re: [RowanRoots] History of Rowan County >I believe you're talking about A History of Rowan County, North Carolina, > ("containing sketches of Prominent Families and Distinguished Men, with an > Appendix"), by Rev. Jethro Rumple. It was originally published in 1881 by > J. J. > Bruner of Salisbury - who was an ancestor of my husband. It has been > republished > since by Heritage Books, Inc., of Bowie, MD. I am not aware of a Adobe > Acrobat version of this on CD or the internet. A brief Google search > didn't turn > it up. Does anyone else know anything different? > > Katherine Dick Benbow > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > RowanRoots is a genealogy/history discussion list. Please stay on topic. >

I believe you're talking about A History of Rowan County, North Carolina, ("containing sketches of Prominent Families and Distinguished Men, with an Appendix"), by Rev. Jethro Rumple. It was originally published in 1881 by J. J. Bruner of Salisbury - who was an ancestor of my husband. It has been republished since by Heritage Books, Inc., of Bowie, MD. I am not aware of a Adobe Acrobat version of this on CD or the internet. A brief Google search didn't turn it up. Does anyone else know anything different? Katherine Dick Benbow

Betty, Thank you so much for all your input to this list. You have helped me many times. I shouldn't be giving advice since I have not been to the NC Archives, but it is not because I have not wanted to go. Several folks that have been there many times have told me recently that there is much to be found that is no longer in the counties, or that has never been in the county. I plan a trip there soon myself if health allows. I have been to Salisbury and the Rowan County Library there is fantastic due to the many records and resources and private files. They are one of, if not the best. Searching at the courthouse and the register of deeds there leaves a lot to be desired from my point of view. I have roots in Rowan and recently was able to get beyond one of my dead-ends there by ordering every will and all estate papers for all the folks with the surname of RICE. And then someone from the Rowan list told me about a book on the history of Unity Presbyterian Church in Rowan which has so much genealogy information and helped me a lot. If you live in NC, I'm sure you know how simple it is to order on-line from the archives. Most documents are only $2.00 which includes searching and copying. If there are a lot of pages to copy, the fee is a little more. Turn around time is about 3 weeks total. Peggy Crane Caldwell County NC -----Original Message----- From: Betty A. Pace [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2005 11:35 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [RowanRoots] Rowan Research I have so many dead ends in Rowan Co. in the 1800 and earlier period, I wonder if a trip to the State Archives in Raleigh or the Rowan history room would be most profitable for research. Do the state archives duplicate the records still held in Rowan? Do state records have material that would not be held in Rowan? I do have some deadends in other NC counties also, and I thought maybe a trip to state archives would cover all this research at one time. I might add that Raleigh is closer to me than Salisbury, Rowan Co. Betty Pace ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== The list administrator can be reached at [email protected]

I am looking for a Adobe Acrobat pdf file for The History of Rowan County. I think this book was published in the mid-1800's. Any help is greatly appreciated. Jeffrey Campbell United States Navy

> I am looking for a Adobe Acrobat pdf file for The History of Rowan County. I think this book was published in the mid-1800's. I have a copy of this that I purcahsed off of e-bay. It shows up there quite frequently. Nicole in NC -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 266.2.0 - Release Date: 2/21/2005

I have so many dead ends in Rowan Co. in the 1800 and earlier period, I wonder if a trip to the State Archives in Raleigh or the Rowan history room would be most profitable for research. Do the state archives duplicate the records still held in Rowan? Do state records have material that would not be held in Rowan? I do have some deadends in other NC counties also, and I thought maybe a trip to state archives would cover all this research at one time. I might add that Raleigh is closer to me than Salisbury, Rowan Co. Betty Pace

Betty, I have lost your email address and would like to ask you about a Krimminger spouse. Please email me off list. Jan Robison 5th great granddaughter of Frederick Griminger b. c. 1760

I just discovered that Betty Camden's Bastardy Bonds book is shown in most (if not all) North Carolina counties on the below Linkpendium web site. First get to the county you are searching and find Bastardy Bonds on the menu. Sometimes the year dates aren't in order. For instance, Rowan Co. jumped from 1809 into the 1870s and I had to scroll down to find the 1811 entries. Betty Pace > http://www.linkpendium.com/

Check this for independent cities .http://www.n9jig.com/counties/county.html

Steve, Hope this will help you with info about the Pee Dee Rivers. This came from http://www.sciway.net/hist/indians/peedee.html SC Location, Territory The Pee Dee River, about 435 miles long, rises as the Yadkin River in the Blue Ridge Mountains of northwestern North Carolina and flows northeast then southeast to Winyah Bay, South Carolina. It is called the Yadkin for about 200 miles until it is joined by the Uwharrie River west of Troy, North Carolina. As the Pee Dee, it continues for another 230 miles. Traditional: Along the middle course of the Pee Dee River in Chesterfield and Marlboro counties Today: Headquartered in the Town of McColl, Marlboro County Related SC Names Great Pee Dee River - Darlington, Dillon, Florence, Georgetown, Horry, Marlboro, Marion, Williamsburg counties http://members.aol.com/Mmcbs3/peedee.html Little Pee Dee River arises in the northeast section of South Carolina near the town of McColl. It meanders down toward Dillon, SC and on down to east of Mullins, SC where it is joined by the Lumber River flowing down out of North Carolina. The two river converge and become just the Little Pee Dee until well south of Conway, SC where they join the Great Pee Dee and flow on down to Georgetown, SC where they enter Winyah Bay. Phyllis Walton -----Original Message----- From: Steve O'Neal [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 12:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [RowanRoots] Question about location of Pee-dee river Listmembers - Can anyone help me locate where the Big Pee-Dee River and Little Pee-Dee ( also referred to as Big P.D. and Little P.D. river ) are? I find references to these waterways in land documentation in both early Rowan County, NC records and in early Anson County land records as well. Thank you. Steve Steve O'Neal [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo!  Get yours free! ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== To unsubscribe from RowanRoots-L send a message from the address you subscribed from to [email protected] with the word unsubscribe in the message body.

Listmembers - Can anyone help me locate where the Big Pee-Dee River and Little Pee-Dee ( also referred to as Big P.D. and Little P.D. river ) are? I find references to these waterways in land documentation in both early Rowan County, NC records and in early Anson County land records as well. Thank you. Steve Steve O'Neal [email protected] --------------------------------- Do you Yahoo!? The all-new My Yahoo! � Get yours free!

Am seeking information re: Joseph Whaley Sr.; spouse #1 unknown, spouse #2 Lidia Justice m. 5 Dec. 1785 Rowan County NC Hance Justice, bondsman; W. Cupples, wit. Rowan County NC. August 9, 1787, State Grant #1618 @ 50 sh the 100 A to James Houston, 100 A. on Buffalo Shoal Crk on a branch known as the Broad Meadow Branch adj Joseph Whealey and one McCay's claim and the Widow Thomas. October 9, 1787, State Grant #1517 @ 50 sh the 100 A to Joseph Whelley/Whealey, 300 A betw Buffalo Shoal Crk and "that on which Moses Nesbet lives: adj Samuel Hustin." 1790 Census Iredell Coounty NC; Whealey, Joseph Sr., Free white males 16 & up (1); under 16 (1); females in household (10) Do not have date of birth or death for Joseph Sr. nor either of his wifes. Joseph Whaley Jr. (son of Joseph Sr.) m. Esther Davis 20 Dec. 1781 Iredell Co. NC, Thos McKay bondsman, ad. Osborn wit. Rowan Co. NC Marriage records Page 420 1790 Census Iredell Co. NC; Whealey Joseph Jr. Free white males (1) under 16 (1), females in household (3) December 19, 1815, Will of Joseph Whaley Jr. Prb. Aug. 1818 Wf: Esther. Sons: Abraham - balance of land; Jeremiah - 100 a. Daus: Sinthy and Esther. Wit: Hugh McCoy and Thomas McCoy. Iredell Co. Will Abstracts Book - page 58, IA-91. Am trying to fill in some of these blanks e.g., from whence did Joseph Sr. come before Rowan Co. NC, his dates of b. and d., especially name of first spouse - Joseph Sr. and spouse unknown are my 6g-grandparents. There are Joseph Whaley Jr. and Sr. from Kent County/Queen Anne's Maryland in 1700s, use of same family names for children- however is some confusion re: dates and logistics unless Joseph Whaleys continued with Jr. and Sr. as the generations passed on. MD Whaleys were connected to Comegys. Any information or a point in a direction would be greatly appreciated.

I have tried to research JOHN POOL (d.1832--wife Elizabeth), but there were two John Pools in Rowan Co. in this time frame. One was descended from the Dutch Van Pools and apparently the other was an English Pool/Poole. There was a family story that we were Dutch and originally Van Pools, but this might just be a story. One Van Pool researcher told me that the property of my John Pool was not located in the same area as the other Van Pools, but I don't know if this is accurate or relevant. In addition, that Van Pool researcher said that my John Pool was too wealthy (owned slaves--I have a document on this) and therefore could not be a Van Pool. John Pool turned up in Rowan Co., NC about 1810. He bought valuable property, so he was not from a poor family. Where did the money come from? I suspect he moved from another NC county before coming to Rowan Co. NC. Blow aare his descendants. DAVID L(awton?). POOL(B.1810-13) was a silversmith in Salisbury, Rowan Co., NC after the death of his father JOHN POOL(wife ELIZABETH, d.1839) in 1832. David was the executor of his father's will. Later David L. Pool sold his share of the Rowan Co. plantation/property to his brother Joseph. Other children of John and Elizabeth Pool (besides David L.) named in the will were: 1)ELIZABETH POOL (b.6/1807-d.1834) m.PETER M. BROWN (m.1828) John Lewis Brown m. Nannie Jane Kerr Margaret C. Brown m. ___ Billiard Mary Brown - (died young - no information) 2)JOSEPH POOL(abt.1815-1849) m. Mary Jane HARDIE (father John HARDIE), 1 Sep.1840 Children of Joseph from 1850 census: John H. Pool - b. abt. 1842 Joseph Alexander . Pool - b. abt. 1845 James L. Pool - b. abt. 1843 Mary E. Pool - b. abt. 1847 Anna V. H. Pool -b. abt.1849 (what does the V stand for?) After 1850, the widow & children have moved to Catawba Co NC 3)MARY POOL - (same as Mariah?) 4)MARIAH POOL - m. Tobias LEMLY July 30, 1840 5)ELIZA POOL - m. Caleb SIMPSON Nov. 4, 1845 6)REBECCA POOL(b.abt.1821-d.abt.1848) m. Thomas T. MAXWELL (b.abt.1815--m. Nov 30, 1842) Children of Rebecca & Thomas from 1850 census: Maria E. - b. abt. 1844 Lavina - b. abt. 1845 John L. - b. abt. 1847 Children of DAVID L(awton?). POOL and Angeline BULLIN: 1)Margaret POOLE m. Pascall CALLICUTT 2)Clayton Wakefield POOLE (b.1848-d.1908) m. Susan JULIAN (m. 1872) a. Walter Wakefield POOLE (1873-1946) m. Ida CECIL Cornelia Elizabeth POOLE Doris Belle POOLE Samuel Cecil POOLE Margaret Burke POOLE b. George Grayson POOLE (1875-1851) Georgia Louise POOLE Alice Carlton POOLE Richard POOLE Morris/Maurice POOLE c. Roxanne Olivia POOLE (b. 1877) m. Charles Whitehead MOWERY Cathlene MOWERY Wakefield MOWERY Doris MOWERY (I am told this family moved to Raleigh, Wake Co., NC) d. Mary Ann POOLE (1879-1953Norfolk,VA) m. Charles Wakefield PACE Sr.--MY LINE Rachel PACE - d. FLA J. Fletcher PACE - d. VA Clayton "Clayte" PACE d.VA Charles W. PACE Jr.--MY LINE d. VA Bob Woodard PACE d. NC e. Henderson/Hartwell Horton POOLE (b. 1883) m. Eunice ___ (Hamlet, NC) Harry POOLE Eunice POOLE f. David Roscoe POOLE (b.1881-d. young) 3)Abraham H. POOLE m. Laura HULIN a. Angelina/Lina POOLE b. Mittie POOLE c. David Lawton POOLE m. Callie Stoner d. Abram Murph POOLE m. Peggy Louise Whitman e. Leo Cleveland POOLE f. Annus Cornelis POOLE g. Gracie Louisa POOLE h. Jessie Alma POOLE 4)Mary L. POOLE m. Fred MENIUS (m. 1873) 5)Sarah POOLE m. Andrew HORTON (Providence, RI & Rowan Co.NC) 6)Isabel POOLE (these last two may really be the same) DAVID L. POOL is the father of my ggrandfather CLAYTON W. POOLE (1848-1908) of Salisbury, Rowan Co., NC. Clayton's mother was ANGELINE BULLEN/BOLIN/BULLARD of Rowan Co., NC; in the 1850 Rowan Census she was living with a BULLAND family and the census taker gave both ANGELINE and CLAYTON the surname of the host family (CATHERINE BULLAND), but this may be her mother CATY BULLEN. I originally couldn't find David L. Pool in the 1850 Rowan census. The Vincent papers gave this reference for David L. Pool on the 1850 Rowan census, on p. 138, 420.430, and a kind lady did a lookup for me. I don't know what the addition by the Asst.Marshall means.. Mary J. POOL is probably the widow of JOSEPH POOL who died Jan 9, 1849 (he married MARY J. HARDIE in Rowan Co., NC. Sept. 1, 1840; her parents were John H. and Mary HARDIE, prominent in Rowan Co.NC). 1850 Rowan NC CENSUS - DAVID L. POOL Living in the house with James Dougherty, 51 - b. NC - Blacksmith $1200 Elizabeth Clary, age 63 - b. NC - $1300 (nee HORAH) David Pool, age 37 b. NC Silversmith 9 Slaves Horse Shoeing, other articles valued at ? At the back of the census book is this note: The names below were this day April 4th, 1851 added by the request of th Asst Marshall. Mary J. POOL, age 31 - b. VA. - $1000.00 John H., age 8 - b. NC Joseph A., age 5 - b. NC James L., ,age 7 - b. NC Mary E., age 3 - b. NC Anna V.H., age 11/12 - b. NC Mary H. HARDIE, age 50 - b. Va. (mother) Martha, age 23 - b. NC Susan E., age 17 - b. NC Caleb, age 18 Mulatto 2 slaves Betty Pace

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Thank you, Betty. You are a treasure to this List! Elizabeth Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty A. Pace" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 23, 2005 5:09 AM Subject: [RowanRoots] VA Tax Lists -- 1700s & 1800 > -----Forwarded-- > > > > > I know many of you have used this site in the past and that you > > > probably > > > know the owners had some serious problems with it and removed it > > > about 6 > > > months ago. The good news is that they've got it back online!! > > > > > > > > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~ysbinns/vataxlists/ > > > > > > > > Enjoy! > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > RowanRoots is a genealogy/history discussion list. Please stay on topic.

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Can't remember where I got this but it is very useful, both for U.S. and UK searches.. Betty Pace I am a google-a-holic, so I thought I'd pass it on to you all :) Not sure if its new, I think it might be relatively new, but there is no direct link on the main google search-page.. Anyways.....save it, bookmark it, and hopefully it can help you find the people your looking for!! You can search for current News, Images, Newsgroups, search for sites, surnames, directories.US street maps..lots of options! It even translates text AND webpages! _http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html_ (http://www.searchforancestors.com/google/searcher.html)

Hello, I am new to the list and am searching for connections to several Millers from NC who later appear in mid-1800's Barbour Co., AL: William 1773 NC Lewis 1803 NC (gravestone indicates 1st Seminole War service, GA Militia) Asa 1805 NC Martin 1812 NC Andrew J 1816 NC We have Lewis, Asa, Martin, and Andrew Jackson Miller in Barbour 1850 and 1860 census, all born NC, and many with same naming patterns in their children. Lewis is in Barbour in the 1880 census, and he gives origins NC NC NC. My G'sGrandmother, Mrs. Archibald D. (Elizabeth) Cooper, 1804 NC-1862 AL, is thought to be a Miller and is possibly a sister to the above younger Millers. Thinking this is possibly a family unit, I have looked for William Millers in 1810 NC census, searching for a listing with at least two boys and one girl, and parents of appropriate age. I did find such in 1810 Rowan, NC, and I also noticed in 1820 census an Asa and Martin Miller appearing there. Families usually tended to repeat names. I understand from stories of a Miller descendant in AL that the Miller line came from northern Ireland to North Carolina. Any thoughts, information, or suggestions would be greatly appreciated as I don't have much to go on. I am happy to share. Sincerely, Cathy