Hi, all! Does anyone have anything on this line? I have descendants, but need ancestors and the unknowns... Thanks! Jan Robison great-ggranddaughter of Elias Beaver and Eleanor Clarissa Simmon(e) Descendants of Peter Simmone 1 Peter Simmone b: NC . +Unknown Unknown b: NC 2 Rachael Simmone d: Bef. 1852 2 Catherine Simmone 2 Martha Simmone . +Daywalt Beaver 2 Delilah Simmone . +Paul Beaver 2 Drusilla Simmone . +Paul Klutts 2 Susannah Simmone b: August 03, 1805 Clemmons, Forsyth, NC d: April 10, 1883 Stony Point, Iredell Co., NC . +Charles Lentz 2 Eleanor Clarissa Simmone b: Abt. 1812 NC d: March 28, 1881 Rowan Co., North Carolina . +Elias Beaver b: December 20, 1811 Organ Community, Rowan Co, North Carolina d: December 27, 1872 Rowan Co., North Carolina 2 Anna Simmone b: January 15, 1815 Cabarrus County, North Carolina d: May 04, 1892 Illinois . +Moses Beaver b: April 03, 1814 Rowan County, North Carolina d: September 22, 1880 Illinois

Reseraching lines of James and John Doyle, who seem to have arrived in the area ca1770. John and James Doyle find in Surry co, then aft 1790 removed to Rutherford Co. Gregory and Samuel Doyal find in Rowan County. Gregory married Gott in Orange County Are there any Doyle marriages in the late 1700's to the early 1800's in Rowan County. Any input would be very much appreciated. Barbara Lucas

Just to let you all know, I received an email from Blythe Construction today concerning the old Smith cemetery. They say they have no plans to destruct or move the cemetery. Thanks to all of you who thought it worthy to respond concerning the cemetery. I also am including a copy of the original article in the Salisbury Post informing all they WERE going to move it. Until we got involved. Dan Patterson Rowan County Information OnLine www.GoRowan.com By Mark Wineka, Salisbury Post An estimated 60 to 75 graves, judged close to 200 years old, will have to be moved to make way for the widening of Interstate 85 near East Spencer. N.C. Department of Transportation officials will transfer whatever remains they find at the long-forgotten cemetery to the old County Home cemetery near the Agricultural Center off Old Concord Road. The graves, part of property now belonging to Aldi Inc. off Old Union Church Road, southeast of I-85, are identified as the Smith or Schmit family cemetery, according to records found at the Rowan Public Library's History Room. The graves are in an overgrown area populated by trees at least 100 years old. Most graves are unmarked. There is a hand-cut headstone with a date from 1802 or 1807 and a collection of rocks, of which only one is inscribed. "Iwould describe it as abandoned," said Ronald Eaton, senior right-of-way agent for the Department of Transportation's Winston-Salem office. No burials have occurred at the family cemetery "in many, many years," he added. State officials will run a legal advertisement in the Salisbury Post on four consecutive Wednesdays in November, notifying the "known and unknown relatives" of the people buried on the Aldi property of the plans to relocate the graves. State officials have contacted one possible Smith descendant, Wanda T. Williams, but otherwise, they know of no other living connections to the cemetery, Eaton said. Plats will be drawn of where each grave was dug up on the Aldi property and replaced at the county property. Those records will be available at the Rowan Public Library and Rowan County Register of Deeds office. A Pinehurst expert in grave relocation served as a consultant for the state in surveying the cemetery. He estimated the site could harbor 60 to 75 graves. "Until we scalp the top layer of soil, we really don't know how many people are there," Eaton said. The individual graves will be marked mostly by a discoloration in the dirt, Eaton said. The state will take that dirt and whatever remains it might fine, put the contents in a box and move it to the County Home cemetery. "It's something we deal with more than once yearly across the state," Eaton said. "We do it with all care, diligence and dignity. ... We're pretty careful with it." The graves will not have markers at the County Home property. The Department of Transportation is running the newspaper advertisements as its last effort to notify any possible descendants about the pending move. Eaton said this number of graves being moved in Rowan County is higher than what the state normally moves in various highway projects. But it's not unusual. "I've seen one moved, and I've seen a hundred," Eaton said. The state pays all the costs of the transfer. For the county's help in providing a new place for the graves, the state will give Rowan County a piece of property it owns on Ritchie Road next to the county's industrial park. Rowan County Manager Tim Russell confirmed Thursday the Ritchie Road property probably makes the most sense for the state and county, though officials discussed several different properties more than a year ago. Eaton said he doubted the weather will be good enough to move the graves in December, once the ads have run. He expects the move to take place in the spring. "Generally, it takes a couple of days," Eaton said. Anyone who might be a descendant of people buried on the land in question should call Eaton at 336-760-8737. Contact Mark Wineka at 704-797-4263, or [email protected]

The president's proposed budget for 2006 eliminates the National Historical Publications and Records Commission, the only grant-making body in the federal government with a focus on archives. This should be of interest to all of us, as an invaluable national resource for our research. Please visit this website and sign the petition: http://www.savearchives.org/ Katherine Dick Benbow County Coordinator, Guilford County North Carolina USGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~ncguilfo/index.html

This is to apologize for a e-mail sent last Wednesday to this and other lists sent by my niece but written by me and I never intended it to be sent. Once written, my anger was released and I thought better. However, my niece can go from Lady to the word use for female dog in 4.2 seconds. I did not realize she had sent the message until the next morning. That being say, some good things came form the e-mail. 1. After a discussion with AOL, I now get it for $7.00 less. 2. Many e mails were sent in agreement. 3. The lady who ripped me off has now listed my research as hers on her web site, with the a Mulatto slave as the great grandfather of her husband. She said she did the research herself. 4. She sent to me updated information about her family with birthdays and maiden names of living people. Smart enough to ripped me off, dumb enough to send that information to a total stranger. On the downside after doing genealogical research for thirty-three years and having two articles published in The American Genealogist, I will now quit genealogy. I will leave it to the new breed of Internet Genealogists that have no sense of right or wrong. So no need to unsubscribe me for an apology, I will do that soon myself. Thank You Tonto Bernstein

I don't know about the history but I can tell you that I've been to the Joppa Cemetery fairly recently and it is not overgrown nor neglected now - it is well maintained and there is a a monument to Squire Boone & his wife (Daniel's parents) and a plaque with some of their history on it as well. Susan Gall Winston-Salem, NC On Mon, 09 May 2005 07:09:50 -0700 Kathryn Weiss <[email protected]> writes: > I have read that in about the 1880s Joppa Cem was overgrown and > neglected. Is there any available "History of Joppa"? > > Thanks, > Kathryn > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > RowanRoots is a genealogy/history discussion list. Please stay on > topic. > > >

I have read that in about the 1880s Joppa Cem was overgrown and neglected. Is there any available "History of Joppa"? Thanks, Kathryn

Sherry, Like Don, I don't think you understand that the original post was about fee-based sites that take your data, for resale to others, and then offer little or nothing in exchange. It is a practice that is ruining online genealogy by, first, creating a negative relationship between the fee based sites and their customers and, secondly, by tying up data that can't conveniently be found elsewhere. On the other hand, Northern Ireland's PRONI (Public Records Office of Northern Ireland) is one organization I'd like to see putting more data out on the web for use by genealogists. I wouldn't mind paying a subscription to access their holdings, as they are the only source for the documents I need to further my Irish research. But, unfortunately, for whatever reason, Irish and British records offices have been slow, if not reluctant, to make their holdings available online. If they're concerned that visitors to their offices would stop coming and that their access revenues would dry up because of it, they obviously need to reconsider, as the revenue from online subscriptions or pay-per-view access could actually increase their revenues, rather than diminish them. www.scotlandspeople.gov.uk is a prime example of what PRONI could be doing. This site is the website of the General Register for Scotland and sells pay-per-view access to documents that can't be found anywhere else in the world. The price is a bargain and I was able to glean everything they had tyhat was of any value to my Scottish research in one session that cost me a mere $13. I don't mind paying for online access to records I can't otherwise view, especially if the price is fair and economical enough. But fee-based sites that require me to upload my data so they can use it as more inventory to profit from, and then don't give me anything of value in return are not my idea of what online genealogy should be. Gary ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 6:27 AM Subject: Re: [RowanRoots] Feed up with getting ripped off. >I agree with Don's take on research. Personally I share everything. >Even > photocopies. What I receive back is truly much more than I give. By > posting my findings, I have been able to connect with many, many distant > relatives > and fill in huge holes in my line. > > Public records are just that....public. Anyone can find them. In the > past > because I have shared, there has been information sent to me that I would > have spent years finding. > > Sometimes I'm not real happy with the information that has been uploaded > to > these various genealogy sites. Mainly because someone shares, and their > information is incorrect, and then folks think it's set in stone because > it's in > print. Normally I go back and document any information other folks send > me. > But I do know the frustration of someone offering information, and I > gladly > send what I have, and then they move to Mars and are never heard from > again and > I'm still left with a gap in my information. But that's the name of the > game. > Sherry >

I agree with Don's take on research. Personally I share everything. Even photocopies. What I receive back is truly much more than I give. By posting my findings, I have been able to connect with many, many distant relatives and fill in huge holes in my line. Public records are just that....public. Anyone can find them. In the past because I have shared, there has been information sent to me that I would have spent years finding. Sometimes I'm not real happy with the information that has been uploaded to these various genealogy sites. Mainly because someone shares, and their information is incorrect, and then folks think it's set in stone because it's in print. Normally I go back and document any information other folks send me. But I do know the frustration of someone offering information, and I gladly send what I have, and then they move to Mars and are never heard from again and I'm still left with a gap in my information. But that's the name of the game. Sherry

Peter Schmidt/Smith will if 1767 mentions his children by name. George, Peter, John, Margret, Mary, Susanna, Elizabeth, Magdelen. Several of these names are on headstones in old Smith cemetery. NCDOT is in process of widening I-85 through north Rowan County and I have setup website with info and pictures. I have placed address of engineer in charge of project. If you are interested in preserving this old cemetery, please take time and write his a nice letter asking for his help. Address is on website at: http://www.gorowan.com/rowanroots/smith/ Dan Patterson Rowan County Information OnLine www.RowanCounty.Info www.GoRowan.com/rowanroots My family history

It is very possible that this John Davis was the son of John Davis who married second to my ancestor Mary wife of first husband John Parke Jr. and moved to Rowan Co. NC along with his and several of her grown adult children from Hampshire Co. VA/WV in the 1760s or 70s. I have some records on my home computer (I'm at work) of John's children's names - I am almost certain that he had a son or grandson named John - actually with the birthdate of 1802 it will probably be a grandson of this John Davis. I will check my records and get back to you on what I have on them. Susan Gall Winston-Salem, NC On Mon, 2 May 2005 11:13:30 -0500 "Teresa Harris" <[email protected]> writes: > Seek parents, siblings of John Davis, b 15 Apr 1802 NC, married Nancy > (possbily Reese/Reece) about 1824 probably Smith Co., TN. It is > possible they migrated from Rowan Co., NC. Some say his father's > name was also John Davis......Their children (all born Smith Co., > TN) were: > > > > Tabitha b abt 1825 > > John Dee b 6 Jan 1826 m Elizabeth Rebecca Smith in Smith Co., TN, > later migrated to AR > > James W. b abt 1831 m Martha Henderson, my line > > Mary Ann b 30 Mar 1833 m James Parsons in AR > > Ellen b abt 1835 m John Henderson in AR > > Matilda Jane b 19 Aug 1837 m Abner Henderson in AR > > Josiah b abt 1839 m Margaret Hargis in AR > > Richard b abt 1841 never married > > Elizabeth b 2 Aug 1843 m Richard Gill in AR > > Marenda b 2 Aug 1845 m A. J. Henderson in AR > > Paralee b abt 1847 > > > > This family moved to Pike Co., AR after the 1850 census. John Davis > was a Justice of the Peace and a Baptist minister during his > lifetime in Arkansas, he died 24 June 1881. > > > > Thanks, > > Teresa Burnham Harris > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > The list administrator can be reached at [email protected] > > >

Does anyone know anything about the Adam Poules shown last here with the Pools of RowanCo., NC. Could his name have changed to Pool or Poole? Rowan County, NC census 1790 From internet site (http://www.rootsweb/~ncrowan) (Sonya Woosley - [email protected]) No Paces or Julians 5 families of Pools-- Pool, David 2 3 4 0 0 -household 1101 - Van Pool probably Pool, Jacob 2 1 4 0 0 household -1100 - Van Pool probably Pool, John 1 4 3 0 0 household -2163 - Van Pool probably Pool, William, Jr. 1 1 1 0 0 household -1528 Pool, William 3 1 4 0 0 household -1526 Poules, Adam 1 2 2 0 0 -household 2166 Betty Pace

Seek parents, siblings of John Davis, b 15 Apr 1802 NC, married Nancy (possbily Reese/Reece) about 1824 probably Smith Co., TN. It is possible they migrated from Rowan Co., NC. Some say his father's name was also John Davis......Their children (all born Smith Co., TN) were: Tabitha b abt 1825 John Dee b 6 Jan 1826 m Elizabeth Rebecca Smith in Smith Co., TN, later migrated to AR James W. b abt 1831 m Martha Henderson, my line Mary Ann b 30 Mar 1833 m James Parsons in AR Ellen b abt 1835 m John Henderson in AR Matilda Jane b 19 Aug 1837 m Abner Henderson in AR Josiah b abt 1839 m Margaret Hargis in AR Richard b abt 1841 never married Elizabeth b 2 Aug 1843 m Richard Gill in AR Marenda b 2 Aug 1845 m A. J. Henderson in AR Paralee b abt 1847 This family moved to Pike Co., AR after the 1850 census. John Davis was a Justice of the Peace and a Baptist minister during his lifetime in Arkansas, he died 24 June 1881. Thanks, Teresa Burnham Harris

Hi, everyone- Just a short note to let you all know what Derick Hartshorn of Conover, NC and I have been up to the past 7 months. We put together the 1939 WPA Cleveland County, NC Cemetery Survey on a CD which was sent to the publisher and should be ready to ship on or after May 5, 2005. Flash! We just have had word that the CDs are completed and have been shipped to Derick. Checks are now being accepted and mailed to Ann K. Propst, 236 Connestee Trail, Brevard, NC 28712-9009. The disk is $25. + NC Sales Tax ($1.75 for NC residents). Please include your e-mail address for prompt acknowledgement. Ann takes care of the "paperwork"; Derick handles the mailing of the CDs. This is our first attempt at CD publishing. We hope you will enjoy using the disk as much as we have had producing it. The latest news and details can be found at: http://www.hartshorn.us/CWPA.htm Sincerely, Ann K. Propst/Derick S. Hartshorn

The Dunkards were a German group that came out of PA ..who believed in full emersion baptism among other things....there was a church in the Yadkin River area led by the brother of my Hendricks ancestor - Rev. John Hendicks. You can find quite a bit about them at the Church of the Brethren sites online. Susan Gall On Fri, 27 May 2005 19:27:21 -0500 "Rose Green" <[email protected]> writes: > Betty, thanks for your info. Do I understand right that the Dunkards > were > yet another German religious group in the county? Anyone know about > Dunkard > records and their availability? > > Rose Green > > >From: "Betty A. Pace" <[email protected]> > >To: [email protected] > >Subject: [RowanRoots] Wachovia settlement, > >Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 17:02:17 -0400 > > > >The church has a web site, I think called the Church of the > Bretheran. > >Do a Google search. I could be wrong on this and confused the > Moravians > >with the Dunkards, who were not a part but lived closeby. > > > >Betty Pace > > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from RowanRoots-L send a message from the address you > subscribed from to [email protected] with the word > unsubscribe in the message body. > > >

The McCubbins collection is very extensive - however it is probably like no other research data that you'd find anywhere else. She collected information on all the families of Rowan County, NC - not just her own. This information was on sheets of paper, some typed, some hand written, front & back. On half pieces and torn pieces of paper - anything apparently she could get her hands on. There is sometimes several families on one page. This is housed in family file folders at the Rowan County library in Salisbury, NC. They have put the information in family folders by family name, making copies of pages that have more than one family on a page so that each family file has the information. It is not in any order, the data contains land deed records, marriage records, birth records, random family information, you name it....it takes some hunting to find things on your family and sometimes, often it is not what you are looking for but usually you find something equally interesting that you didn't know would be there. She had been planning to write a book and died before completing her work. It is a treasure but a treasure that requires a hunt...however often well worth it. The families included are all at one time residents of Rowan County - both early Rowan before the counties branched off and present day Rowan. Susan Gall Winston-Salem, NC On Thu, 26 May 2005 22:42:07 EDT [email protected] writes: > Can anyone tell me how extensive and what are the contents of the > McCubbin > Collection? Where is it located? > > Does it have family info, if so what families.. southern, or ??? > > Thanks for your helps! > Ellie S. > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > RowanRoots is a genealogy/history discussion list. Please stay on > topic. > > >

I wonder how many out there have great ideas or tools for handling genealogy materials. I bought a "mail box" at an auction at a school, which was closing. It was evidently hung on the wall outside the principal's office, with notices or mail for each teacher, and is about 5 feet tall and 12 inches wide and 4 inches deep, made of lightweight metal, like a light file cabinet is. It has 17 slots. I have used it while making a notebook out of each family's materials. When I 'm not using it, it stores behind the door. When I am using it, I lean it against a bookcase next to my computer desk, within easy reach. Small refrigerator magnets, holding a family member's name and number in order of birth, placed on the side visible to me, helps me identify each family member's file slot. Before I bought this handy mail box, I was utilizing our card table, plus one small table on wheels, to spread out and collate my family lines, and with some families with 10 to 15 children, it was not very handy, and I never had enough room. Virginia Flesher

Does anyone remember an entry in the Rowan Gen. Journal regarding a George Bullin and his heir Catherine/Katherine--I think somewhere between 1800-1830. I can't seem to find it in my backlog of copies. It seems to me that it was within the last year, but I can't find the name Bullin in the 2004 Index of Entries. Can someone point me the way. I think it was a court document of some sort, but maybe not a will. Betty Pace

On the section of the 1820 North Carolina Federal Census covering Rowan County, the census taker has written notes in the far left hand margin to the left of the names of each individual. It appears that these names are last names that are associated in some way with each of the individual households listed on the census. The notes in the column are names like Marks, Wheeler, Mays, etc. I'm speculating that these names may be the names of the head of the "company" that each household was assigned to ( potentially giving some insight as to the geographic placement of each of the households ). If this is the case, this could be quite useful, since much of the NC census for this area was alphabetized, thus eliminating a portion of its usefulness for genealogical purposes. Does anyone know for sure what these names in the margin represent? If they are the names of heads of companies, does anyone know of a relevant reference book containing a list of these heads of each company and what area they were responsible for? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I'm looking for information on Samuel, James and John Drake (or any other Drakes) who were believed to be in Northern North Carolina 1760-1779. Barb Marshall [email protected]