My great grandmother was Clara Bell Wilson, who married J. F. Pace in Rowan Co., NC. After his death in 1901, she remarried--probably around 1904-- to Rev. Henry Frank STARR. In 1910 they were living in Salisbury, Rowan Co., NC. In 1920 they were in Stanly Co., Ridenhour township. Can anyone give me information on the church or activities of Rev. H. F. Starr and wife Clara while in NC? They are both buried in Guilford Co., NC, which I think is where Rev. Starr originated. Betty Pace - [email protected]

Hello Group... and all of our displaced Pitt Co NC friends with ancestral roots beginning with Bath County 1696, Pamtecough 1705, Beaufort 1712, with Beaufort gaining from Craven 1757, and FINALLY forming PITT County 1760 ..... you can see... these roots stretch far and deep along the Migration Trails to the many families that now populate these United States. ………and so, here is another UPDATE on Pitt County NC CHRONICLES VOL II, as requested by many of you on my UpDate List and the various eMail Lists. Hopefully, this won’t ‘overlap’ each other and you receive several. If so, consider this my apology and just delete! Thanks! HOORAY!!!! CHRONICLES OF PITT COUNTY, North Carolina, VOLUME II, published by the Pitt County Historical Society, is scheduled to arrive in Greenville around 28 June 2005 and will be distributed immediately to those who have prepaid. Look for your UPS shipments first weeks in July, labels being prepared as we speak. SHEPPARD MEMORIAL LIBRARY, Greenville, N.C. is the 'Pick-Up' Location for PREPAID only. [No sales can be made at the Library.] Copies of Volume II may still be purchased at the pre-publication price of $53.50 (including tax). Locals can pick-up copies at the Humber House in Greenville. UPS Shipment Orders still accepted, see below. For new orders requiring shipping, the total cost is $60.00. However, due to the unanticipated number of pages and photographs in Volume II, the price of the book will increase to $74.90 (tax included) plus $10 for shipping after August 01, 2005. For ALL of our new GenPCNCFIR members who are NOT familiar with the PITT COUNTY CHRONICLES VOLUME ONE REPRINT AND VOLUME II.... and those of you on our 'Sister-eLists' who would like additional information.... click here: http://www.usgennet.org/usa/nc/county/pitt/ or: http://www.pittcountyhistoricalsociety.com/order-join-form.html GenPCNCFIR Members with Yahoo ID's can click here for easy access: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/genpcncfir/files/ and to view CHRONICLE photos: http://photos.groups.yahoo.com/group/genpcncfir/lst CHRONICLES VOLUME II is a 1,046-page history of Pitt County, N.C. and its citizens, both past and present. It contains more than 1200 articles on Pitt County communities and family histories, and includes over 1200 photos. The community section is indexed with over 7,600 names and places The family history index includes over 33,000 names of individuals mentioned in the articles. For additional information, and/or to place orders, feel free to contact Chairman Sandra Hunsucker [email protected] or Liz Sparrow [email protected] or mail to: Chronicles of Pitt County Committee Pitt County Historical Society 307 Queen Anne's Road Greenville, N.C. 27858 If you haven't done so, place your order NOW for either the RePrint and/or Volume II. As I've always said.... they should DEFINITELY be considered a Set... a MUST HAVE for your home genealogical Library! The Set makes a memorable gift for any occasion for your family, friends, and "in-honor-of" to Libraries and/or Genealogical Societies. Please feel free to spread the word to friends, neighbors, relatives and other eGroups who may be interested. .....and as always, contact me whenever you need to. Jewelle Baker [email protected] [email protected] Main SURNAMES; CANNON; COX; JACKSON; McLAWHORN (all sp); WINGATE ++++ GenealogyPITT Co NC Friends In Research (Serving all Eastern/Coastal NC Counties) http://groups.yahoo.com/group/genpcncfir http://groups.yahoo.com/group/genpcncfir/messages eMail scan by NAV & certified Virus Free

"Boone led an attempt to settle Kentucky in 1773. At the time, however, the movement was not identified with Boone as much as it was with William Russell, a well-known Indian trader, tobacco farmer, landowner, captain of militia, and justice of the peace in southwest Virginia. On Boone's way back to the Yadkin in the spring of 1773, he followed the trace up Clinch River to Russell's settlement of Castle Woods. It is not known which of the two men originated the Kentucky emigration plan, but Captain Russell was to head the expedition while Boone was to serve as its logician and guide. Arthur Campbell, another of the big men of southwest Virginia, afterward wrote to the governor that "Captain William Russell with several families and upwards of 30 men set out with an intention to reconnoiter the country towards the Ohio and settle in the limits of the expected new government." Another Virginian wrote of joining "the company going with William Russell to Ohio." Boone's name was not mentioned in contemporary correspondence or reports concerning the migration. This is hardly surprising, since Boone was still an obscure woodsman from backwoods North Carolina, while Russell was a prominent Virginian. The son of a well-known lawyer from Culpepper County, he had attended the College of William and Mary and married a woman from a wealthy tidewater family; after her death he married the widowed sister of Patrick Henry. In the 1760s Russell made a name for himself as one of the first settlers in southwest Virginia, representing the area in the House of Burgesses. Governor Dunsmore, who met him in Williamsburg, described him as "a gentleman of some distinction." Born to command, Russell was perfectly situated to be a leader of the country about to be opened west of the mountains. Many historians have interpreted the westward migration of this period as part of a struggle for freedom from the "tidewater aristocracy," but in his move to Kentucky, Boone joined himself to gentlemen of that class. It was still the age of patriarchs, and like others of his time, Capt. William Russell so aspired. His relationship with Boone may be summed up in a word or two. Daniel Boone, he wrote, was one of the "best Hands" he knew. Boone reached the upper Yadkin, where his family was again living, in late April, just a few weeks before Rebecca delivered her eighth child, Jesse Bryan, on May 23, 2773. James, sixteen, was now as tall as his father, and with his brother Israel, fourteen, shouldered much of the field work, around the farm; Susannah and Jemima, twelve and ten, were a help to their mother; and then there were the little ones - Levina, seven, Rebecca, five, Daniel Morgan, three, and the baby. ................................................................................................ Jesse and Jonathan, the nephews raised by the Boone household, now young men, chose to remain in North Carolina. ............................................. But in their move, the Boones were joined by brother Squire, his wife, Jane, and their three young sons, as well as Benjamin Cutbeard and his wife, Boone's niece, and several other families as well as a number of single men, hunting companions of Boone. The Boones themselves seem to have left the Upper Yadkin sometime in the early summer for an extended visit with their kin at the Forks, where Boone's talk of Kentucky persuaded a number of the Bryan families to join the emigration. The Bryan men would remain until the harvest was in; they would pack winter supplies and join the Boone's in Powell Valley; returning for their families once they had established a base in Kentucky. Meanwhile, the Boone's and the others from the Upper Yadkin would travel to Castle's Wood to link up with Russell's people. .............................................................................. .................................................. ................................... By mid-August the Boone's were with Russell at Castle's Wood, where the McAfee brothers, returning from the exploration of Kentucky, saw them making preparations for the journey. There were no wagons to pack, for the trail to Kentucky was little more than a rough trace over mountains and through forests, wide enough only for the horses to be ridden in single file. Their supplies, clothes, tools, and precious possessions were packed on horses. "They had prepared baskets made of fine hickory withe or splinters," wrote and old resident of the Clinch River area, " and fastening two of them together with ropes they put a child in each basket and put it across a pack saddle. They had poultry with them which they carried the same way." Cattle and hogs were driven along. With the crying of the children, the lowing of the cattle, and the bells on all the livestock, "they made a terrible racket." In addition to the Russell family, including the slaves, were a number of young men who would become friends and associates of Boone's during the Kentucky years, including William Bush and Michael Stoner, said to be the two best shots in southwest Virginia. The group, totaling forty or fifty people, set out on September 25, 1773. .............................................................................. .............................................................................. .. The movement of families by pack train was laborious work. The group soon strung out in a long line of march, and it took nearly two weeks to travel the hundred-odd miles down and across the Clinch River, over Horton's Summit to Little Flat Lick, and over Powell's Mountain at Kane's Gap into the valley, where they met the Bryan men at the Forks. Believing that the slow trip would require greater supply of provisions than he originally had anticipated, early in the journey Boone sent back his oldest son, James, accompanied by John and Richard Mendinall from North Carolina, to arrange for additional supplies at Castle's Wood, where Captain Russell had remained to wrap up some last-minute business. Russell ordered additional horses, packs, and cattle and sent those forward with his own goods, reinforcing the party with two slaves and a hired man under the guidance of an experienced woodsman, Isaac Crabtree. On the evening of October 9, 1773, James Boone and the others of the supply party camped for the night on the west bank of Wallen's Creek, near its junction with the river at the eastern edge of Powell's Valley. They were just three miles behind Boone's main column and several miles ahead of Russell, who brought up the rear of the march with several other men. That night, around their campfire, they heard wolves howling. The Mendinalls were little more than boys, this was their first adventure into the wilderness, and they admitted to being frightened by the plaintive sound. But Crabtree laughed at their fears, joking that in Kentucky they would hear not only wolves howling, but buffalo bellowing from the treetops. His backwoods humor had the effect of calming the boys, and soon all were asleep. There seems to have been no fear of an Indian attack. .............................................................................. .......................................................................... ......at about dawn the Indians fired down into the sleeping groups. The Mendinall brothers died in the first fire. Crabtree and the hired man suffered wounds but fled into the woods. The slave named Charles stood petrified with fear, but his companion, Adam, scurried undetected under some nearby driftwood and became the sole living witness to what followed. James Boone and Henry Russell had taken bullets through their hips and lay conscious but immobilized. Running into the camp, most of the Indians turned to gather the horses and making preparations to abscond with their loot, but one or two pounced onto the wounded boys and began to slash at them with their knives. Attempting to turn the blades with their arms and hands, the boys were horribly mangle. From his hiding place Adam heard James pleading for his life .............................................................................. ........................................... With the other Indians impatient to be going, the tortures finally ended the torment with heavy blows to the boys heads, leaving their bodies shot through with arrows before fleeing into the dawn, forcing the slave Charles along. The massacre was first discovered by a young thief from Boone's camp who had been severely rebuked the day before by the men of the party for stealing some trifle, and in his shame he resolved to steal something of real value and return home. Arising before dawn and taking a pack of deer skins from Boone's cache, he was riding back up the hills when suddenly he came upon the killing ground. Without stopping to examine the bodies, he galloped back to camp to spread the alarm. The people were just stirring and the man's calls threw them into panic. Not knowing the extent of the disaster, and compelled by the necessity of preparing a defense in case of a second attack, Boone sent Squire and a small groups back to the ridge. Fearing the worst, Rebecca dug into her pack, pulled out two linen sheets, and gave them to Squire..................................... As Squire and the others rode up they saw Captain Russell and his men bending over the bodies. They had risen early that morning in the hopes of overtaking the boys and had ridden unsuspecting upon the dismal spectacle. While some of the men began to round up the scattered cattle, Squire and Russell wrapped the Mendinnall brothers together in one sheet, James and Henry Russell in the other, and buried them in a common grave. A few days later Crabtree, whose wound proved not to be serious, arrived back at Castle's Wood. Adam, the eyewitness, wandered through the forest in shock after the Indians left and did not find his way home for eleven days. The body of the slave Charles, his head cleaved open with a hatchet, was found later, about forty miles away. The sixth victim, Drake, remained unaccounted for until, twenty years later, bones thought to be his were found wedged between two high ledges of rock about an eighth of a mile from the creek. .............................................................................. ................. The first published account of the massacre, in a North Carolina newspaper printed in early December, reported that a group of emigrants from the Yadkin, on their way over the mountains, had been attacked by Indians, killing six men, including the son of Daniel Boone. It was the first time that Daniel Boone's name appeared in print. ..................." pgs. 90 - 95 - Daniel Boone The Life and Legend of an American Pioneer, John Mack Faragher, 1992 - Henry Holt and Company, New York Sources given: "Captain William Russell: Arthur Campell to Lord's Dunsmore, December 14, 1773, quoted in James William Hagy, The First Attempt to Settle Kentucky: Boone in Virginia - Filson Club Historical Quarterly 44 (1970) p. 228. "Murder of Russell" Campell to Preston, June 20, 1774, Documentary History of Dunsmore's War, 1774 (Madison: State Historical Society of Wisconsin, 1905) p. 38 -39

In 1773 Daniel Boone led a group of his neighbors from the Yadkin River over the Blue Ridge Mountain to southwest Virginia, crossed the Clinch Mountain and were headed toward Cumberland Gap. They stopped at Capt William Russell's place and he furnished them some supplies because Russell had an interest in getting settlers in Kentucky because of land he was claiming there. Some writers claim that Russell was planning to join Boone's party later but that is doubtful because Russell's wife was not well at the time. The Boone party got to Powell Valley and set up camp but, after some discussion, Boone decided to send his son and some others back to Russell's to try to get more supplies. Russell gave them the extra items and sent a servant man and his son to help haul the things back to Boone's camp. Darkness was falling when they were about three miles from where Boone had camped, so they stopped for the night and prepared some food. During the night Indians attacked Boone and his party and drove off the cattle and horses. William Russell grew concerned about his son and servant when they didn't return and went to search for them. He found the Boone boy and his son had also been attacked and killed at their campsite, infact, only one person survived the attack by hiding under a creek bank. The would-be first Kentucky settlers turned back and most returned to the Yadkin but Daniel Boone found an empty cabin and arranged to house his family there on the Clinch River. I found copies of some of Capt. William Russell's letters in the back of "The History of Southwest Virginia" by Preston. I don't know if they are included in later printings or not. The book is available at the Washington County Historical Society, Abingdon,Va. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

Yes it was the same William Russell. Many of Col. Russell's letters are found in the Draper Mss, Preston and VA Papers, owned by the Wisconsin Historical Society. The below is from the Rootsweb Boone-L archives 2003. Kathryn ==================================================== Date: Thu, 09 Oct 2003 23:42:14 -0400 From: Donald Drake <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [BOONE-L] James Boone Massacre My name is Donald Drake and I grew up in Jonesville, Lee County, Virginia. My father is treasurer for the local historical society. They recently succeeded in having the marker for the James Boone Massacre remade and located across from the Stickleyville School on Highway 58. While researching the incident, my father became interested in the Drake boy that accompanied James Boone's company. He asked me to help find the boy's name. Consequently, I went to as many original sources as I could find. I have scanned copies of the following: 1) December 1773 issue of the Pennsylvania Chronicle 2) December 1773 issue of the Virginia Gazette 3) 1966 article from the Virginia Magazine of History and Biography 4) February 1774 deposition by Isaac Thomas 5) February 1774 deposition by Thomas Sharp. The last two documents are from the Thomas Gage collection at the William Clements Library, University of Michigan. I have these two documents uploaded but I am waiting for publication permission from the library before I provide the links. Transcripts of all five documents are also online. I thought someone on this might be interested. You may view them by going to my web site referenced below. Choose Family History from the main page and the Other Related Articles and Documents. By the way, the Drake boy was Samuel Drake, son of John Drake. Thanks Don Drake -- Donald E. Drake Moyock, NC http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~drakerobinson/index.htm ______________________________ ------------------------------ CNIDR Isearch-cgi 1.20.06 (File: 122) ========================================================================= Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 10:10:57 -0400 From: Donald Drake <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: [BOONE-L] James Boone, Samuel Drake & Thomas Gage Papers I just received permission form the William L. Celements Library at U of Michigan to publish the two depositions from the Thomas Gage collection regarding the Massacre of the James Boone Party in October of 1773. The depostions were given by Isaac Thomas and Thomas Sharp. Thomas Sharp says that he saw the Indians responsible on 5 October 1773 on the Watuaga River (same area Benjamin Drake of Carter County settled in). One of the Indians, a Cherokee named Big Elk, showed Sharp a weapon. Sharp was later in the party that went to the camp to bury the men and found the same weapon laying by the bodies. Isaac Thomas gives the name Samuel Drake as one of the men killed in the attack. An article in the PA Chronicle from December 1773 says that the son of John Drake was among the men killed. Scanned versions of both depostions are now available at the web site referenced below. Choose Family History from the main page, then Other Related Articles and Documents. You will see a link to the James Boone Massacre on the page. Typing "James Boone Massacre" into Google will also take you there. Don -- Donald E. Drake Moyock, NC http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~drakerobinson/index.htm -------------------------------- End of BOONE-D Digest V03 Issue #122 ************************************

I think so. The other mentioned was Samuel, son of John Drake. I think I saw those letters on the internet somewhere, but I won't swear to it. Try Google. Barb Marshall --- Original Message --- From: "Karen Carty" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RowanRoots] DRAKE >18th Century Virginia Newspapers pg 297 >RUSSELL, (?), son of Capt. William RUSSELL of Va., supposedly killed on the >frontiers of Fincastle in Sep. last (or on 20 Oct. by Cherokee Indians along >with Daniel BOONE of Va. and a son of John DRAKE of Va. acc. to PC citing a >Baltimore disp. of 27 Nov. (PC 6 Dec 73, VGR 23 Dec 73) > >Do you think this is this the same William Russell? Where can I find >Russell's letters? > >Karen Carty >Saint Louis > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "G. Lee Hearl" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:10 AM >Subject: Re: [RowanRoots] DRAKE > > >> Ephraim Drake, William Herrell, Stanton and Sharpe were dispatched by >> Capt. William Russell in 1774 to scout along the Warriors Path during the >> Indian uprisings of that year and to locate the River which was the line >> between Va. lands and the Cherokees (Ky-Tn line). >> At the time William Herrell lived on the Clinch River near Wm. Russell. >> They were gone 21 days, traveling on foot. For proof read Russells letters >> to Campbell and others. >> Margaret Edminston Montgomery married Robert Harreld who rescued her from >> the Indians after their home was raided in Ky. and her husband was killed. >> Robert and Margaret had several children and lived near Bowling Green, Ky. >> Robert Harreld was s/o James Harrolld (Harreld) who died in Washington >> Co., Va. 1796. >> G. Lee Hearl >> Authentic Appalachian Storyteller >> Abingdon, Va. >> >> >> ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== >> To unsubscribe from RowanRoots-L send a message from the address you >> subscribed from to RowanRoots-L- [email protected] with the word >> unsubscribe in the message body. >> >> > > >==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== >To unsubscribe from RowanRoots-L send a message from the address you subscribed from to RowanRoots-L- [email protected] with the word unsubscribe in the message body. >

18th Century Virginia Newspapers pg 297 RUSSELL, (?), son of Capt. William RUSSELL of Va., supposedly killed on the frontiers of Fincastle in Sep. last (or on 20 Oct. by Cherokee Indians along with Daniel BOONE of Va. and a son of John DRAKE of Va. acc. to PC citing a Baltimore disp. of 27 Nov. (PC 6 Dec 73, VGR 23 Dec 73) Do you think this is this the same William Russell? Where can I find Russell's letters? Karen Carty Saint Louis ----- Original Message ----- From: "G. Lee Hearl" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 15, 2005 10:10 AM Subject: Re: [RowanRoots] DRAKE > Ephraim Drake, William Herrell, Stanton and Sharpe were dispatched by > Capt. William Russell in 1774 to scout along the Warriors Path during the > Indian uprisings of that year and to locate the River which was the line > between Va. lands and the Cherokees (Ky-Tn line). > At the time William Herrell lived on the Clinch River near Wm. Russell. > They were gone 21 days, traveling on foot. For proof read Russells letters > to Campbell and others. > Margaret Edminston Montgomery married Robert Harreld who rescued her from > the Indians after their home was raided in Ky. and her husband was killed. > Robert and Margaret had several children and lived near Bowling Green, Ky. > Robert Harreld was s/o James Harrolld (Harreld) who died in Washington > Co., Va. 1796. > G. Lee Hearl > Authentic Appalachian Storyteller > Abingdon, Va. > > > ==== ROWANROOTS Mailing List ==== > To unsubscribe from RowanRoots-L send a message from the address you > subscribed from to [email protected] with the word > unsubscribe in the message body. > >

This site is really interesting - and it's free! http://fisher.lib.virginia.edu/collections/stats/histcensus/index.html It has statistical info about the US census records for 1790-1960. It shows religions, occupations, the usual census fields and lots of other stuff. You can pick and choose what you want to look at - and keep going back and deleting & adding. EX: 1860 census for North Carolina Total for NC: families 125090 free whites 629942 Lutheran churches 88 free colored 30463 slaves 331059 free population 661563 Total for Cabarrus County NC families 1481 free whites 7391 Lutheran churches 8 free colored 115 slaves 3040 free population 7506 Total for Rowan County NC families 2180 free whites 10523 Lutheran churches 42 free colored 136 slaves 3930 free population 10659 Guess where all the Germans were living!! 50 out of the state's 88 Lutheran churches were in these 2 counties! For certain censuses you can look at how many Germans, Asians, etc. Sharon Perdue Researching Hahn, Ritchie, Cox, Barrier

Ephraim Drake, William Herrell, Stanton and Sharpe were dispatched by Capt. William Russell in 1774 to scout along the Warriors Path during the Indian uprisings of that year and to locate the River which was the line between Va. lands and the Cherokees (Ky-Tn line). At the time William Herrell lived on the Clinch River near Wm. Russell. They were gone 21 days, traveling on foot. For proof read Russells letters to Campbell and others. Margaret Edminston Montgomery married Robert Harreld who rescued her from the Indians after their home was raided in Ky. and her husband was killed. Robert and Margaret had several children and lived near Bowling Green, Ky. Robert Harreld was s/o James Harrolld (Harreld) who died in Washington Co., Va. 1796. G. Lee Hearl Authentic Appalachian Storyteller Abingdon, Va.

Hi folks, I just had to stick in my tuppence. "The tax law of 1749 defined those taxable as: 'All and every white person, male of the age of sixteen years, and upwards, all negroes, mulattoes, male or female, and all persons of mixt blood, to the fourth generation, of the age of twelve years, and upwards, and all white persons intermarrying with any negro, mulatto, or mustee, or other person of mext blood, while so intermarried, and no other person or persons whatsoever, shall be deemed taxables.... Every master or mistress of a family, or overseer of a plantation, of which there is no master or mistress, although not summoned, is hereby required to appear before one of his Majesty's Justices of the Peace, and to give in his or her List of Taxables, setting forth in such List the name and sex of each Taxable Person, whether white or black, bone or free, and distinguishing such male Slaves as are Sixteen years of age, and upwards.'" "Many researchers have been under the mistaken impression that a man was relieved of taxes once he reached age sixty. It is true that on reaching age sixty a man was relieved of militia duty. However, only the General Assembly could relieve a man of paying taxes." [ source: Ms. Jo White Linn; "Rowan Co. North Carolina Tax Lists 1757-1800" pp vii-viii] I note in court records the justices recommending indigent men for tax relief, but the recommendation had to go to the gen. assembly for approval. Rowan County had 1,343 taxables in 1758, and 1,576 taxables in 1759. Using Ms. Linn's same book, the tax list for 1759 [pages 22-35 and page 36], I counted roughly 935 men listed. I have noticed a list on the internet which is basically the same list used by Ms. Linn, with the addition of many men who appeared in NC records as going on scouting or ranging expeditions during 1759, but who do not appear on extant 1759 tax lists. On the internet site those men are noted by an asterick. It appears to me that the 1759 tax list as currently circulated is incomplete by about one-third. A lot of men are not listed. I also note that in Rowan County court records for October 18, 1759, Squire Boone Senior transfers his two parcels of land, to his sons Daniel and Squire Junior. Dan was on a jury that week, which seems to indicate that part of the Boone family had not yet left for Virginia. Only a few days later, on October 21, 1759, the court required the constables and justices to collect taxes from 1,576 taxables. Since the Boones had been in county all year, one would think they would be on somebody's taxable list. Squire Senior probably wouldn't have qualified for tax relief, as one condition required the petitioner to be worth less than forty shillings (two pounds), and Squire sold the land for 40 or 50 pounds. Old Morgan Bryan certainly wouldn't have qualified for tax relief. Myrna, have you checked the Draper mss for your Drakes? I am pretty sure there's a lot about 'em in there. Could "Long Hand" in your Gen. GR Clark ref. be "Long Cane"? There was a famous Long Cane area in Northern Ky near Louisville - Shelby Co. area, and GR Clark was in that neighborhood quite a bit. Kathryn [email protected] wrote: > > Subject: > > ROWANROOTS-D Digest Volume 05 : Issue 59 > > Today's Topics: > #1 email address [[email protected]] > #2 Re: [RowanRoots] poll tax ["Myrna Madigan" <[email protected]>] > #3 DRAKE ["Myrna Madigan" <[email protected]>] >

Very interesting, and might be helpful. Myrna made a mistake when she gave the wife's name as Montgomery. The Drake brothers married Buchanan sisters, daughters of John Buchanan and Margaret (Patton). I liked your response though. There was a John Drake in Botetort CO who married a Neely. I have long believed that John was related (a brother or cousin) to Joseph and Ephraim. You just strengthened that belief. Thanks. I teased Myrna earlier about her mistake, now I'm glad that she made it. Thanks again for the great reply. Barb Marshall also researching the longhunter Drakes --- Original Message --- From: "Karen Carty" <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [RowanRoots] DRAKE >It's just a thought - no knowledge behind it but I have, in my ancestors, >one Elizabeth Montgomery (b. abt 1750) who was the daughter of John >Montgomery and Margaret Bryerly. Elizabeth was b. in Virginia and m. Samuel >Alexander Neely abt 1766. He was killed by Indians near Bledsoe's Lick in >Sumner County, TN in 1790. > >This Alexander Neely also traveled with Daniel Boone and served with the >Virginia Militia during the Revolutionary War. I find various references to >Alexander Neely and the Montgomery name in Tennessee: > >Virginia Military Records, Montgomery County, pg 208 >Sworn to the oath of Allegiance by John Montgomery on Sept 6, 1776 >Alexander Neely > > >Register of Virginians in the Revolution and War of 1812 pg 579 >Neely, Alexander, 2nd Lieut., Montgomery Mil., rec. June 2, 1779. > >Early History of Middle Tennessee By Edward Albright, 1909 Chapter 32 Events >Of 1790 >In midsummer Alexander NEELY and his two sons, James and Charles, were >killed a mile north of Bledsoe's Lick. They were going to haul tanbark from >NEELY S farm, near the fort. > > >Elizabeth Montgomery Neely d. in 1833 in Sumner County, TN. She had at >least 9 children, one of whom was Catherine who m. Thomas Sloan. They moved >west and raised their family in Washington County, Missouri. > >Elizabeth Montgomery had a sister, Catherine, who was married to Isaac >Bledsoe who d. in 1793 near Fort Bledsoe, Sumner County, Tennessee. > >Isaac Bledsoe was also mentioned alongside the Montgomery family: > >Historic Sumner County, Tennessee By Jay Guy Cisco, 1909 Chapter One >In the fall of 1771 Kasper Mansker, James Knox, Henry Knox, Richard Scaggs, >Henry Scaggs, Isaac Bledsoe, Abraham Bledsoe, James Graham, Joseph Drake, >John Montgomery, old Mr. Russell; his son, young Russell; Hughes, William >Allen, William Linch, David Linch, Christopher Stoph and others, twenty-two >in all, with several horses, came out again. It will be seen that five of >this party, Mansker, Abraham Bledsoe, Joseph Drake, James Knox and Richard >Scaggs, were members of the first party which had gone out in June, 1770. > > >Bledsoe Station: Archaeology, History, and the Interpretation of the Middle >Tennessee Frontier, 1770-1820 By Kevin E. Smith >In 1787, the Isaac Bledsoe community consisted of Isaac, his pregnant wife >Katy, five children (Peggy, Sally, Polly, Anthony, Isaac), along with at >least six slaves (Bob, Jane, Caesar, Will, Moses, and Tomm) with three >others owed by William Hall and John Montgomery. > >I wonder if this is the same family of Montgomery's? > >Karen Carty >Saint Louis

It's just a thought - no knowledge behind it but I have, in my ancestors, one Elizabeth Montgomery (b. abt 1750) who was the daughter of John Montgomery and Margaret Bryerly. Elizabeth was b. in Virginia and m. Samuel Alexander Neely abt 1766. He was killed by Indians near Bledsoe's Lick in Sumner County, TN in 1790. This Alexander Neely also traveled with Daniel Boone and served with the Virginia Militia during the Revolutionary War. I find various references to Alexander Neely and the Montgomery name in Tennessee: Virginia Military Records, Montgomery County, pg 208 Sworn to the oath of Allegiance by John Montgomery on Sept 6, 1776 Alexander Neely Register of Virginians in the Revolution and War of 1812 pg 579 Neely, Alexander, 2nd Lieut., Montgomery Mil., rec. June 2, 1779. Early History of Middle Tennessee By Edward Albright, 1909 Chapter 32 Events Of 1790 In midsummer Alexander NEELY and his two sons, James and Charles, were killed a mile north of Bledsoe's Lick. They were going to haul tanbark from NEELY S farm, near the fort. Elizabeth Montgomery Neely d. in 1833 in Sumner County, TN. She had at least 9 children, one of whom was Catherine who m. Thomas Sloan. They moved west and raised their family in Washington County, Missouri. Elizabeth Montgomery had a sister, Catherine, who was married to Isaac Bledsoe who d. in 1793 near Fort Bledsoe, Sumner County, Tennessee. Isaac Bledsoe was also mentioned alongside the Montgomery family: Historic Sumner County, Tennessee By Jay Guy Cisco, 1909 Chapter One In the fall of 1771 Kasper Mansker, James Knox, Henry Knox, Richard Scaggs, Henry Scaggs, Isaac Bledsoe, Abraham Bledsoe, James Graham, Joseph Drake, John Montgomery, old Mr. Russell; his son, young Russell; Hughes, William Allen, William Linch, David Linch, Christopher Stoph and others, twenty-two in all, with several horses, came out again. It will be seen that five of this party, Mansker, Abraham Bledsoe, Joseph Drake, James Knox and Richard Scaggs, were members of the first party which had gone out in June, 1770. Bledsoe Station: Archaeology, History, and the Interpretation of the Middle Tennessee Frontier, 1770-1820 By Kevin E. Smith In 1787, the Isaac Bledsoe community consisted of Isaac, his pregnant wife Katy, five children (Peggy, Sally, Polly, Anthony, Isaac), along with at least six slaves (Bob, Jane, Caesar, Will, Moses, and Tomm) with three others owed by William Hall and John Montgomery. I wonder if this is the same family of Montgomery's? Karen Carty Saint Louis

This group seems to have such a broad knowledge base, i. e. rivers and taxes and etc., that I'm going to take a stab in the dark and ask if anyone knows anything of the DRAKE family who were cohorts of Boone. They seem to have come out of Montgomery Co VA, maybe at various times, and at least one of them may have spent some time in North Carolina before heading back north through the Cumberland and into Kentucky and Tennessee. Others may have gone directly from Virginia to Kentucky and Tennessee. Hard to tell. Joseph and Ephraim Drake were among Boone's "long hunters" and variously spent time as Indian scouts and in and out of trouble. Joseph was killed by Indians, in sight of Boonesborough KY, after he had married Margaret Mongtomery and sired a couple of kids. Ephraim married Anne Montgomery (Margaret's sister), then married a second wife and died in Davidson Co TN, left a will. We believe there were also a Samuel, John and James Drake, perhaps Jonathan, in this family and that some of them probably lived at or near Boonesborough KY. Found tax lists and some Jessamine Co KY land records. Found where some of these Drake men were paid for furnishing and hauling supplies for George Rogers Clark when he was getting ready for his "Illinois Expedition". Have yet to discover where was "The Long Hands" that they drove wagons to. The problem with these folks is that they were so "out there" that there is precious little to be found in the way of records. Anyone have any ideas, ties or connections, solutions? Thanks! Myrna Madigan

And, sometimes, men were exempted from the poll tax because of age or infirmity. Perhaps that's why Morgan Bryan doesn't show on the 1759 list? He died in 1763 at age 92! Same, also maybe, for Squire Boone who died in 1765 at age 69. Myrna Madigan ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 11:37 PM Subject: Re: [RowanRoots] poll tax > It was a head tax. In colonial NC, it was on males age 16 and up. > > Rick Saunders > http://genealogypro.com/fsaunders.html

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It was a head tax. In colonial NC, it was on males age 16 and up. Rick Saunders http://genealogypro.com/fsaunders.html

could someone explain what the poll tax was for. i have never seen an explanition for that. Susan

Considering that the list was damaged, a name could easily have been lost, unreadable, or misread. What was found might also have been less than the entire original list. I'm not sure if a man who didn't own property yet would have been included, either. Elaine Oakes >>Do any of you know if the absence of a male's name on the 1759 Tax List (see below) indicates that an adult male living in 1759 was definitely NOT living in Rowan County?

Yes, a poll list. I have ancestors on the list who did not own land. Rick Saunders http://genealogypro.com/fsaunders.html -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.9 - Release Date: 6/11/2005

Thank you to everyone who helped me with the Savannah River question. I honestly didn't think it was in Rowan but I've been wrong many times before. Someone has maybe tried to show migration or got states confused. Thanks again, GerriAnn [email protected] Why Wait? Move to EarthLink.