I think you would have a good chance of finding the article in PERSI - The Periodical Source Index. It is an index of all articles in over 2,000 English and French language genealogical periodicals from 1847-1990. Since 1990 the index is being published by Ancestry and is on the web at www.ancestry.com. PERSI is also available on CD-ROM. A Church of LDS Family History Centre will have a fiche copy of PERSI or your local Family History Society may even have a copy of the CD-ROM in their library. To obtain a copy of an article once found on PERSI, write to Allen County Public Library P.O. Box 2270 Ft. Wayne, IN 46801 Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2001 6:11 PM Subject: [RossGen] Where can I find this article? > I found a reference in a bibliography that I would like to read (have a copy > of) but I have no idea where to look. Would anyone have a suggestion? > > Ross, A., "The Munros of Milntown", Celtic Magazine, 10 (1885), pp 49-56; > 103-12; 151-8; 230-7. > > I would also like to know if there is Saltburn Historical Society, or > something of that nature, that I could contact. > > Thank you, > Susan > Connecticut >

Hi Martin, I would guess that your ancestor was a seaman in the Merchant Navy as opposed to the Royal Navy. Regards Jennifer MacPherson. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martin Beveridge" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2001 11:55 AM Subject: [RossGen] Occupation question > I was wondering if anyone can tell me what exactly is a "Seaman-Merchant Service". My GG Grandfather, Alexander MacDonald is listed as such on his sons marriage certificate in 1878 in Tain. > >

Peter, we had lost track of you for a while. I wanted to tell you that I made some progress with my HALLs in Rosskeen, largely due to the efforts of Donald MacLennan. He found the monument for the family in the Rosskeen cemetery, and the inscriptions gave me a number of clues. It turns out that James HALL, brought up and raising almost all of his family in Limekilns in Fife, moved them to Rosskeen between 1836 and census time in 1841. He was a shipowner and imported timber. His youngest son later carried on the business and imported lime and coal as well. Those could have come from Limekilns. Then around 1881 the business closed down, perhaps because of the introduction of the railway as a means of efficient transportation. I have been able to deduce the names of some of the descendants of James and his wife, but have not made a connection with the HALL family of which you gave me particulars. I expect to make my first visit to Rosskeen next week. Alan Cairnie Perth, Ontario

I was wondering if anyone can tell me what exactly is a "Seaman-Merchant Service". My GG Grandfather, Alexander MacDonald is listed as such on his sons marriage certificate in 1878 in Tain. Thanks in advance Martin Beveridge

Theresa, I have (well, at home in New Zealand anyway) copies of all witness statements from criminal trials resulting from the 1792 "Year of the Sheep" disturbance which the wedding of my Strathrusdale-resident forebears John ROSS alias Davidson and Helen MUNRO alias McAdie helped to spur. Many Strathrusdale and Ardross people were mentioned, but I'm afraid none were SUTHERLANDs to the best of my recollection. There are also militia lists of men aged 16-60 from the late 1700s which I think are in the Seaforth (Mackenzie) papers. I'm sure I had copies of these returns for Alness and Kiltearn parishes, but I'm not sure if they are available for Rosskeen parish (for Ardross). Also I'm afraid I can't recall the year the data was gathered. Sorry I'm not of much help, but perhaps another lister with that information at his/her fingertips could assist? Peter Grant London UK -----Original Message----- From: Coleman [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 05 September 2001 18:29 To: [email protected] Subject: [RossGen] Ardross I am searching for information for those that lived at Ardross during the period 1700-1790ish...would anyone happen to have parish registers, or anything that might help me? Searching for a SUTHERLAND family. Theresa. ______________________________

Hello I now have more information to add to this family in hopes of finding someone that has more info on anyone here. I have found one person and we were able to put what we both have together. Alexander McKenzie and Mary Arbuckle had 4 sons that we know of. 1.-William (b. abt 1828/29) married Mary Turner in 1857 and had 3 children we know of but they lived in Argyll. 2.-Murdoch (b.1833) married Annabella MacKenzie (b.1833) in 1859 and they had many children in Stornoway but some did not survive. Mary b. 1859 Andrew John b. 1861 I suspect he died in 1865 ??? Jane (Jeannie) b. 1862 Alexander b. 1864 May have been an Engineer and married a Bella (Isabella?) Grieve in Greenock Andrew b. 1866 Annabella Marion b. 1867 Harriet Julia b. 1868 She appears on 1881 Census at age 12 and may have married a Francis Macaulay in Oban Donna Robina b. 1871 Ebenezer b. 1873 Elizabeth (Lizzie) b. 1877 / 78 May have married an Alexander Falconer There is a Lizzie on the 1881 Census at age 3 3.-Alexander (b.1835/36) - the last we have about him is as a scholar, age 15 on the 1851 Census. 4.-Francis (b.1842/43) - the last we have about him is as a scholar, age 9 on the 1851 Census. It would not surprise me if the last 2 emmigrated to Canada or Australia as there were other branches of the family there. If any of this is familiar at all, I would appreciate hearing from you. Thanks Lorraine Ottawa, Canada

Hello i wonder can someone do a look up for me please I have, I think identified a Christian Paterson in the 1851 census for Knockbain aged 42 at 2:11 I really need to know if she is a widow she does not appear in the 1881 census so I assume between the dates she has died if any one again can help it would be great. Thankyou Ann Roots

Hello can anyone tell me if they have come across an accident in about 1831 at Roshkall Quarry? an ancestor of mine worked there and he must have only been married a short time before he died and I wondered if it was an accident at work. I think the Quarry was in the parish of Knockbain. Thankyou Ann Roots

Hi Listers New to this list, Have traced ancestors back to 1800 around the Bayhead/Stornoway areas. Can anyone connect with the following::: Marriage of Farquhar Graham/Mary Lamond 12/7/1823, Snizort. Siblings:: Donald 14/10/1825, Twins:: Malcolm & John 5/1/1833, Marr. of Donald to Catherine Falconer 1854, Siblings :: Flora 12/4/1855, Mary 25/8/1856, Mary 10/9/1858, James 17/4/1861 all born at Stornoway. Family then moved to Govan, Glasgow. Regards Jim Graham ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie

I am searching for information for those that lived at Ardross during the period 1700-1790ish...would anyone happen to have parish registers, or anything that might help me? Searching for a SUTHERLAND family. Theresa.

Hello, I'm unsubscribing for the academic year but would still love to hear from anyone with connections with Hamilton THOMSON and Ann CARR from various places around Ross & Cromarty and James THOMSON b.1825/6, possibly their son, a joiner who emigrated to Canada c1840. All the best, Janet Packer (nee Thomosn)

Hi there, Having a few ancestors who were 'squarewrights' - just remember that farther back, your ancestors could be described in this way too (skilled wood-worker). Kate At 11:49 03/09/01 -0400, espencer wrote: >Hello Lyndall > >Many Thanks for your wonderful description of a "Joiner". I had a feeling >it was a >good and skilled trade back then and maybe one day, I'll find a relly that >still has a >piece of his furniture (dreamer). He may also have been an apprentice in >Edinburgh >and just finished his trade when he married Mary Arbuckle. Thanks again and >I shall >add your info to my file of Alexander. Take Care Lorraine Ottawa, >Canada >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Lyndall" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: 02 September, 2001 19:36 >Subject: [RossGen] Joiners > > >> >> >> Lorraine wrote: >> > he was listed as a Joiner (gather like a carpenter). >> >> Lorraine, a Joiner was a [and still is] a highly skilled craftsman. He >has >> the skills to make furniture without using nails, screws, and bolts [or >the >> modern practice - glue]. He *joins* the wood! It is quite likely that >your >> ancestor made furniture. >> >> I have an ancestor who was a cooper - another skilled trade. In later >> years, this man was referred to as a 'carpenter'. >> >> Joiners and coopers would, most likely, have been able to carry out >> carpentry jobs ; however, a carpenter, would be highly unlikely to be able >> to build fine furniture or make quality barrels. >> >> Lyndall >> Canberra, Oz. >> >> >> ==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== >> To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm >> >> > > >==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== >To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm > > > Kate and David Ferris [email protected]

Hi Kate: Many Thanks for adding to my info. On Alexander's marriage in 1825 he was listed as a Joiner, on the 1851 C. he was a Builder and the 1881 C. says he is a Builder & Architect. We seem to mainly use Builder & Carpenter now although I have seen Woodworker also. Take Care Lorraine Ottawa, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "david and kate ferris" <[email protected]> To: "espencer" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: 03 September, 2001 13:29 Subject: Re: [RossGen] Joiners > Hi there, > Having a few ancestors who were 'squarewrights' - just remember that > farther back, your ancestors could be described in this way too (skilled > wood-worker). > Kate > > At 11:49 03/09/01 -0400, espencer wrote: > >Hello Lyndall > > > >Many Thanks for your wonderful description of a "Joiner". I had a feeling > >it was a > >good and skilled trade back then and maybe one day, I'll find a relly that > >still has a > >piece of his furniture (dreamer). He may also have been an apprentice in > >Edinburgh > >and just finished his trade when he married Mary Arbuckle. Thanks again and > >I shall > >add your info to my file of Alexander. Take Care Lorraine Ottawa, > >Canada > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Lyndall" <[email protected]> > >To: <[email protected]> > >Sent: 02 September, 2001 19:36 > >Subject: [RossGen] Joiners > > > > > >> > >> > >> Lorraine wrote: > >> > he was listed as a Joiner (gather like a carpenter). > >> > >> Lorraine, a Joiner was a [and still is] a highly skilled craftsman. He > >has > >> the skills to make furniture without using nails, screws, and bolts [or > >the > >> modern practice - glue]. He *joins* the wood! It is quite likely that > >your > >> ancestor made furniture. > >> > >> I have an ancestor who was a cooper - another skilled trade. In later > >> years, this man was referred to as a 'carpenter'. > >> > >> Joiners and coopers would, most likely, have been able to carry out > >> carpentry jobs ; however, a carpenter, would be highly unlikely to be able > >> to build fine furniture or make quality barrels. > >> > >> Lyndall > >> Canberra, Oz. > >> > >> > >> ==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== > >> To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: > >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm > >> > >> > > > > > >==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== > >To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm > > > > > > > Kate and David Ferris > [email protected] >

Hello Lyndall Many Thanks for your wonderful description of a "Joiner". I had a feeling it was a good and skilled trade back then and maybe one day, I'll find a relly that still has a piece of his furniture (dreamer). He may also have been an apprentice in Edinburgh and just finished his trade when he married Mary Arbuckle. Thanks again and I shall add your info to my file of Alexander. Take Care Lorraine Ottawa, Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Lyndall" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: 02 September, 2001 19:36 Subject: [RossGen] Joiners > > > Lorraine wrote: > > he was listed as a Joiner (gather like a carpenter). > > Lorraine, a Joiner was a [and still is] a highly skilled craftsman. He has > the skills to make furniture without using nails, screws, and bolts [or the > modern practice - glue]. He *joins* the wood! It is quite likely that your > ancestor made furniture. > > I have an ancestor who was a cooper - another skilled trade. In later > years, this man was referred to as a 'carpenter'. > > Joiners and coopers would, most likely, have been able to carry out > carpentry jobs ; however, a carpenter, would be highly unlikely to be able > to build fine furniture or make quality barrels. > > Lyndall > Canberra, Oz. > > > ==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== > To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm > >

Lorraine wrote: > he was listed as a Joiner (gather like a carpenter). Lorraine, a Joiner was a [and still is] a highly skilled craftsman. He has the skills to make furniture without using nails, screws, and bolts [or the modern practice - glue]. He *joins* the wood! It is quite likely that your ancestor made furniture. I have an ancestor who was a cooper - another skilled trade. In later years, this man was referred to as a 'carpenter'. Joiners and coopers would, most likely, have been able to carry out carpentry jobs ; however, a carpenter, would be highly unlikely to be able to build fine furniture or make quality barrels. Lyndall Canberra, Oz.

Hello Everyone: Would there be anyone that would have access to the 1841 Census for Stornoway. I can order it from my local FHC but my last file was ordered in Feb. and arrived in August. They are presently taking from 4-6 months. I am looking for my Alexander McKenzie and he should have his wife Mary and one son Alexander (Jr) about age 5. I know the other 2 sons were in North Uist with their grandmother and their uncle there was a schoolmaster so he was probably teaching them also. Any help would be appreciated. Lorraine Ottawa, Canada

Since I am expecting to visit Rosskeen in two weeks time I thought I would re-post my message which elicited no response in June. My gggrandparents were James HALL(1795-1864) and Isabella LAWRENCE (1799-1865) who moved from Limekilns in Fife to Rosskeen in Ross and Cromarty between 1836 and 1841. He was a shipowner and probably traded with Baltic ports as well as with Fife. They had a family of ten , and one of their sons had a family of fifteen. I still have a lot of work to do to follow all these lines. However, from the gravestone and surrounding markers there are references to: Wilson HALL (1874-1937), his wife Catherine MURRAY (1884-1967) and their children John, Isa and Billy Roderick CORBETT (1886-1974) and his wife Isabella H. HALL. I also know, courtesy of John MacLennan, that Catherine HALL (1833-?) married John HENDERSON in 1857. Any connections? Alan Cairnie Perth, Ontario

Hello Everyone: I have been off this List as I had nothing new to offer but now I have. Alexander McKenzie was born about 1802 in Stornoway, Isle of Lewis. He married Mary Arbuckle in St Cuthberts, Edinburgh on Oct. 3, 1825 and he was listed as a Joiner (gather like a carpenter). I believe they returned to live in Stornoway and had 3 sons. William McKenzie about 1827/28 Murdoch McKenzie about 1833/34 Alexander (Jr) McKenzie about 1835/36 I think Mary died between 1840-1850 and I have checked the FHC films for Stornoway but no films list Death records. Would anyone know of any death records for this area. The boys and their Father are on the 1851 Census in North Uist and Alexander is listed as a ship builder and widowed. Any help would be appreciated. Thank You Lorraine Ottawa, Canada

Lists - Thought this site might be of interest. It was listed in today's edition of "What's New on Cyndi's List." URL:     http://www.rcahms.gov.uk/index.html TITLE:     Royal Commission on the Ancient and Historical Monuments of Scotland DESCRIPTION:     Includes CANMORE, which allows you on-line access to the database of the National Monuments Record of Scotland (NMRS). The database contains details of many thousands of archaeological sites, monuments, buildings and maritime sites in Scotland together with an index to the drawings, manuscripts and photographs in the Collections of the NMRS.

Hi Theresa, Enter your property into this site and it shows it. http://uk2.multimap.com/home.html Bob Jensen Coleman wrote: > Can someone tell me where the property of Pulrossie is located in the parish of Creich.... > > thankyou. > > Theresa. > > ==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== > To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm