thought i post these notes i took from the OPR's for Tarbat area hope they help someone. The opr's were hard to read in places. William Mckay & Isobel Hood Balnabuach, had a child born 10 april named John. Alex Mckay & christian denoon, Inver had child born 5 may- Jane. -------------------- and also a child born on 1st feb 1825named Margaret. William munro & nellie Rofs, Portm..k,had a child born 21 may 1827 named William. John Crow & Janet fraser, portmahomth,had a child born 5 may named William. Thomas Rofs & janet Skinner, upper arboll, had a child born 26 march named Walter. John Bruce & isabella Rofs, arboll had a child born 12 june named Catherine. Alex Corbet & janet Mcleod, Inver had a child born 28 june named Simon, Andrew Mcdonald & Isabella Rofs, (G?)eanies hill, had a child born 6th july named Ann. Malcolm Rofs & Harriett Mcleod, Rockfield had a child born7 aug named John. David Rofs & Flora Mckenzie, Balnabuach had twins born on the 12 aug named John and David. Peter Mckay & Christian Rofs, tarrel had a childborn 30 aug named George. Nickolas Rofs & Ann (S?)tronack, Portm..k,had a child born 25 aug named William. Donald Mckay & Ann Vafs, Inver had a child born 6 sept named Alexander. William Angus & MAry Mcleod Portm..k had a child born 20 aug named Margaret. Please note most of the place names were shortened.also the page i copied ws mainly 1827 so the first few would have been before that year. julie

Hello can anyone help I have found an ancestor of mine listed as being a toll keeper in Killlearnan in 1851 and then in 1861 an Inn Keeper at Artaphalie it looks like they are in about the same place. the name is Falconer and I wondered can anyone tell me about the places. Also would the parish of Fodderty cover Brahan. And finally can anyone tell me where Bishop Kirkhill would have been in about 1830. Thankyou Ann Roots

G'day Cobbers, Have the following McINTOSH ancestry, as below: Descendants of Jannet STUART & James McINTOSH James McINTOSH. He married Jannet STUART, m. 20 Aug 1807, in Cromdale & Inverallan, Inverness, SCT. I. David McINTOSH, b. 27 Oct 1810, Duncan, Cromdale, Moray, Scotland. He married (1) Isabella CAMERON, m. 19 Feb 1834. He married (2) Mary ROBERTSON, m. 15 Mar 1853, in Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland, b. 09 Oct 1822, Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland, (daughter of Roderick ROBERTSON and Elspet McKENZIE) d. 06 Mar 1900. David died 18 Aug 1882. A. James McINTOSH, (son of David McINTOSH and Isabella CAMERON) b. 20 May 1834. He married Catherine DAVIDSON, m. 05 Dec 1859. James died 14 Apr 1867, Redbank, near Ipswitch, Queensland, Australia, buried: 16 Apr 1867, Ipswitch Cemetery, Qld, Australia. 1. Isabella McINTOSH, b. 19 Aug 1860. 2. Unnamed McINTOSH, b. 14 Mar 1862, d. 14 Mar 1862. 3. Unnamed McINTOSH, b. 08 May 1863. 4. Catherine McINTOSH, b. 19 Apr 1865, d. 27 Jul 1865. 5. James McINTOSH, b. 17 Jan 1867. B. Hugh McINTOSH, (son of David McINTOSH and Isabella CAMERON) b. 09 May 1836, Killearnan, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. C. Isabella McINTOSH, (daughter of David McINTOSH and Isabella CAMERON) b. 10 Jul 1838, Millnain, Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty, SCT. She married (1) Thomas BIRCH, m. 17 Jan 1862, in Ipswich, Qld, Aus, b. 1839, Hull, Yorkshire, England., (son of John BIRCH and Annie REEVES) d. 08 Nov 1873, Brisbane, Qld, Australia. She married (2) Joseph Bewster RUDD, m. 09 Feb 1876. Isabella died 19 Mar 1878, buried: 20 Mar 1878, Wivenhoe Cemetery, Qld, Australia. 1. Ann Reeves BIRCH, (daughter of Thomas BIRCH and Isabella McINTOSH) b. 31 Mar 1863, Ipswitch, Queensland, Australia. She married Joseph Dalziel RUDD, m. 29 Dec 1881, in General Registry Office, Brisbane, Qld,, b. 1861, Camben Town, Eng, (son of Joseph Bewsher RUDD and Elizabeth Ann DALZIEL) d. 1934, buried: 09 Dec 1918. Ann died 25 Sep 1893, Croydon, Qld, Australia, buried: 26 Sep 1893, Croydon Cemetery, Qld, Australia. a. William Thomas RUDD, b. Dec 1882, Ipswich, Queensland, Australia. He married Alma Muriel GREEN, m. 10 Nov 1928. William died 15 Sep 1947, Warwick res Croydon, Qld, Australia. b. Reeves Elizabeth Isabel RUDD, b. 20 May 1882, Cooktown, Queensland, Australia, d. 1933, NSW. c. Reginald David Bewsher Dalziel RUDD, b. 27 Jun 1885, Cooktown, Queensland, Australia. He married Alexandrina MacPHERSON, m. 15 Mar 1909. Reginald died 25 May 1969, Brisbane, Qld, Australia. d. Cecil Valentine Killum RUDD, b. 17 Sep 1887, d. 03 Jun 1920, ENG res Cooktown, Croydon, Qld, AUS. e. Joseph Dalziel RUDD, b. 04 Feb 1890, d. 20 Jan 1918. f. Rupert Alexander RUDD, b. 07 Nov 1892, Croydon, Queensland, Australia. g. Isabel RUDD. 2. David BIRCH, (son of Thomas BIRCH and Isabella McINTOSH) b. 23 Aug 1866, Wivenstone, Ipswich, Queensland, Austral. He married Isabella Oliver McLEAVY, m. 08 Dec 1888, in Cairns, Queensland, Australia, b. 29 Mar 1868, Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland, (daughter of Hugh McLEAVY and Agnes OLIVER) d. 05 May 1950, buried: 06 May 1950, Martyn St Cemetery, Cairns, Qld, Aust. David died 26 Feb 1922, Cairns, Qld, Australia, buried: 27 Feb 1922, Martyn St Cemetery, Cairns, Qld, Aust. a. Thomas BIRCH, b. 18 Sept 1889, Cooktown, Queensland, Australia, d. 02 Dec 1918, France; World War 1, buried: France 341 Busigny Communal Cemetery Ext. b. John Charles BIRCH, b. 13 Dec 1890, Cairns. Queensland, Australia. He married Maud Victoria SPRENGER, m. 10 Sep 1913, in Cairns, Qld, Australia, b. 02 Jan 1894, Maryborough, Qld, Australia, (daughter of Frederick Christian Wilhelm SPRENGER and Margaret ANDERSEN) d. 29 Jul 1969, buried: Martyn St Cemetery, Cairns, Qld, Austral. John died 13 May 1938, Brisbane, Queensland, Australia, buried: 14 May 1938, Martyn St Cemetery, Cairns, Qld, Austral. c. David Temple (Dod) BIRCH, b. 12 Jun 1892, Cairns, Queensland, Australia. He married Beatrice May FRANCE, m. 20 May 1932, in Cairns, Queensland, Australia, b. 08 Apr 1911, Cairns, Queensland, Australia, (daughter of Arthur FRANCE and Ethel May SMITH) d. 16 March 1991, buried: Martyn Street Cemetery, Cairns, Queensland, Australia. David died 16 Jan 1953, buried: Martyn St Cemetery, Cairns, Queensland, Aust. d. James Le Fevre BIRCH, b. 05 Oct 1894, Cairns, Queensland, Australia, d. 07 Oct 1939, District Hospital Cairns, buried: 07 Oct 1939, Cairns Cemetery. e. Albert Victor BIRCH, b. 18 Apl 1896, Cairns, Queensland, Aus. He married Dorothy McLEAN, m. 10 Mar 1917, in Rockhampton, Queensland, Salvation Army, b. 07 Dec 1896, Balaclava, Cairns, Queensland, (daughter of Robert Clark McLEAN and Amelia Benton WHITEHOUSE) d. 16 May 1986. Albert died 28 Jun 1943, buried: 01 Jul 1943, Windsor Cemetery, Brisbane. f. Agnes Olive BIRCH, b. 27 Feb 1898, Cairns, Queensland, Australia. She married Alwyn Ernest WILLIAMS, m. 19 Feb 1916, in Cairns, Qld, Australia, b. circa 1862, Kangaroo Flat, South Australia, (son of James Trego WILLIAMS and Margaret MALCOLM). g. Annie Bella Ivy (Ivy) BIRCH, b. 27 Sep 1899, Cairns, Queensland, Australia. She married Jack Gregor NORRIS, b. circa 1902, Ealing, London, Eng, (son of Frederick NORRIS and Lavinia Clara PERCY). D. David McINTOSH, (son of David McINTOSH and Isabella CAMERON) b. 09 June 1840, Killearnan, Black Isle, Scotland. He married Jessie McPHERSON, m. 03 Jun 1864, in Cawdor, Nairn, Scotland, b. circa 1840. 1. George McINTOSH, b. 01 Sep 1865. 2. Alexander McINTOSH, b. 29 Jul 1867. 3. David McINTOSH, b. 02 Feb 1871. 4. Charles John McINTOSH, b. 03 Feb 1874. 5. Jessie McINTOSH, b. 22 Sep 1876. 6. William James McINTOSH, b. 04 Jan 1879. 7. Margaret McINTOSH, b. 29 Dec 1881. 8. Donald Hugh McINTOSH, b. 30 May 1887. E. Janet (Jessie) McINTOSH, (daughter of David McINTOSH and Isabella CAMERON) b. 26 Sep 1842, Milnain, Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty, SCT. F. William McINTOSH, (son of David McINTOSH and Isabella CAMERON) b. 16 Sep 1844, Milnain, Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty, SCT. G. Hugh McINTOSH, (son of David McINTOSH and Isabella CAMERON) baptized 26 Sep 1846, Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. H. Roderick McINTOSH, (son of David McINTOSH and Mary ROBERTSON) baptized 17 Feb 1854, Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. He married Jessie CLARKE, b. 29 Apr 1857, Petty, Inverness, Scotland, d. 6 Sep 1947. Roderick died 05 Aug 1913, Millnain, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. 1. William Duncan McINTOSH, d. 27 Nov 1955. I. Jane McINTOSH, (daughter of David McINTOSH and Mary ROBERTSON) b. 20 Oct 1855, Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. J. Donald McINTOSH, (son of David McINTOSH and Mary ROBERTSON) b. 19 Apr 1857, Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. He married Jane CAMPBELL, b. circa 1858, Knockbain, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland, (daughter of Murdoch CAMPBELL and Barbara). K. Margaret McINTOSH, (daughter of David McINTOSH and Mary ROBERTSON) b. 29 May 1858, Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. L. Alexander McINTOSH, (son of David McINTOSH and Mary ROBERTSON) b. 13 Jun 1860, Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. M. Peter McINTOSH, (son of David McINTOSH and Mary ROBERTSON) b. 23 Jan 1862, Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. N. John McINTOSH, (son of David McINTOSH and Mary ROBERTSON) b. 11 Sep 1863, Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. O. Eliza McINTOSH, (daughter of David McINTOSH and Mary ROBERTSON) b. 04 Aug 1865, Fodderty, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland. II. Margaret McINTOSH, baptized 06 Nov 1816, Cromdale & Inverallan & Advie, Sct. III. Peter McINTOSH, baptized 30 Apr 1819, Cromdale & Inverallan & Advie, Sct. IV. Jane McINTOSH, baptized 23 Mar 1822, Cromdale & Inverallan & Advie, Sct. V. Archibald McINTOSH, baptized 20 Nov 1825, Cromdale, Moray, Scotland. Interested in any further information on this line and in exchanging information. Regards Greg Baldwin AIGS 9842 A&NESFHS 9933 CFHS 8731 KFHS 7737 Researching Surnames: ALLEN - Cornwall, UK. BALDWIN - Kent, UK>New Zealand> Qld, AUS BENTON - Warwick, UK BIRCH - Yorkshire, UK> Qld, Australia BRODIE - Parish of Boyndie, Banffshire, SCT CLARK - Rhynie & Essie, Aberdeen Scotland EDWARDS - Cornwall, UK. FRANCES - Australia GRANT - Parish of Rhynie, Aberdeen, Scotland INCH - Cornwall, UK>New Zealand LEYLAND - Warwick, UK. LUMSDEN - New Zealand MacDONALD - Inverness, SCT. MASSEY - Ireland>Qld, Australia McFADDEN - Ireland McINTOSH - Inverness, SCT > Qld, Australia McINTOSH - Ross Shire, Scotland>Qld, Australia McLEAN - Garmouth, Moray, Scotland>Qld, Australia McLEAVY - Jedburgh, Roxburgh, Scotland>Qld, AUS OLIVER - Roxburgh, Scotland REEVES - Yorkshire (?), UK REYNOLDS - Cornwall, UK. RUDD - Qld, Australia SMITH - Scotland SPENCER - Scotland SPRENGER - Qld, Australia WHITEHOUSE - Warwick, UK. WILSON - Scotland>New Zealand email to: [email protected] Australian Genealogy:http://www.ke.com.au/bdmaus/index.html

Iain, You could try this site www.rootsweb.com/~ote/indexshp.htm which gives passenger lists and information about ships. Good Luck, Mary.

Birth of a son Hugh to Hugh Ross Roy and Margaret Fraser April 1793. Unwanted OPR Certificate. Mary Chandler.

If anyone is interested in the birth of Isobel Munroe child of the above couple at Watten, Caithness in 1792 I have an unwanted certificate. Mary Chandler.

Hello Iain, I can't help you with any of your ships, sorry. However, there is a Queensland list where you might find someone who can help. Also, I think (hope?) that it is a local family history society in Mackay which has a rather good web site which might lead you to some answers. Good luck, Lyndall Canberra, Oz. ----- Original Message ----- > An Ancestor left Dingwall or thereabouts aged 15/16 in 1885/6 for Australia he landed at Port Mackay and I have been advised he may have been on Bounty Scheme? On arrival he had "sixpence in his pocket " the ship had "both sail and steam" I have a list of ships arriving in Port Mackay in those years has anyone any Knowledge of them or their passengers? The ships are Cheyabassa,Quetta,Dorunda,Merkara,Waroonga,Wistow Hall,Duke of Westminster, Dacca,Bulimba,Roma,Almora and Tumna Any help would be appreciated > Iain > > [email protected] >

Mark, I am quite sure that you will be correct. As I said, I just searched for plea roll and wrote down what I found. What I did wrong was to assume that because the courts were involved, some crimial action would have taken place. This just goes to prove, once again, that we should never make assumptions in genealogy and I thank you for correcting me. For Hazel's benefit and for the rest of us, will these court proceedings be recorded so that she can look them up and possibly find a little more about the person she is researching? Regards, Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Sutherland-Fisher" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:53 AM Subject: Re: [RossGen] Re: PLEA ROLL > Don, > Are you sure the plea rolls cover criminal matters. From memory the plea > rolls cover only civil cases, i.e. individuals suing one another for all > sorts of reasons from breach of promise to marry through to breaches of > contract etc but it is a long time since I have examined such things. > Regards, > Mark > > Mark Sutherland-Fisher > Genealogist: Clan Sutherland > Co-Genealogist: Clan Mackenzie > Professional Genealogist specialising in the Highlands and 18th century > see my web-site: http://www.highland-family-heritage.co.uk

Lilian, there are some old court papers among the archives in Inverness and others in the National Archives of Scotland in Edinburgh. Regards, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Lilian Campbell <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 7:45 PM Subject: [RossGen] Court Cases > Mark: > > Re old court cases - where would one go to search for these? When in > scotland recently I photocopied a document in the possession of a cousin > where our great-great- grandfather is served with a summons to appear > before the Sheriff-Depute at the Tolbooth in Inverness (he was tacksman > of a farm in Inverness-shire) It appears that he had been ordered to > leave the farm (cited are acts passed in 1756 "Act Anent Removing" and > 15?5 "Act anent the warning of Tenants") > > It appears that the case may have been decided in his favour as he died > there in 1854 and it was the birthplace of my mother in 1899. > > Lilian > > > ==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== > To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm > >

Hi Folks, Yes from experience the actual court records or part of them may still be in existence. Over the years I have looked at some early 18th century court papers, the actual ones written all that time ago! Regards, Mark ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Munro <[email protected]> To: Mark Sutherland-Fisher <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, September 28, 2001 4:44 PM Subject: Re: [RossGen] Re: PLEA ROLL > Mark, > > I am quite sure that you will be correct. As I said, I just searched for > plea roll and wrote down what I found. What I did wrong was to assume that > because the courts were involved, some crimial action would have taken > place. This just goes to prove, once again, that we should never make > assumptions in genealogy and I thank you for correcting me. > > For Hazel's benefit and for the rest of us, will these court proceedings be > recorded so that she can look them up and possibly find a little more about > the person she is researching? > > Regards, > > Don > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mark Sutherland-Fisher" <inf[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, September 25, 2001 5:53 AM > Subject: Re: [RossGen] Re: PLEA ROLL > > > > Don, > > Are you sure the plea rolls cover criminal matters. From memory the plea > > rolls cover only civil cases, i.e. individuals suing one another for all > > sorts of reasons from breach of promise to marry through to breaches of > > contract etc but it is a long time since I have examined such things. > > Regards, > > Mark > > > > Mark Sutherland-Fisher > > Genealogist: Clan Sutherland > > Co-Genealogist: Clan Mackenzie > > Professional Genealogist specialising in the Highlands and 18th century > > see my web-site: http://www.highland-family-heritage.co.uk > > >

Mark: Re old court cases - where would one go to search for these? When in scotland recently I photocopied a document in the possession of a cousin where our great-great- grandfather is served with a summons to appear before the Sheriff-Depute at the Tolbooth in Inverness (he was tacksman of a farm in Inverness-shire) It appears that he had been ordered to leave the farm (cited are acts passed in 1756 "Act Anent Removing" and 15?5 "Act anent the warning of Tenants") It appears that the case may have been decided in his favour as he died there in 1854 and it was the birthplace of my mother in 1899. Lilian

An Ancestor left Dingwall or thereabouts aged 15/16 in 1885/6 for Australia he landed at Port Mackay and I have been advised he may have been on Bounty Scheme? On arrival he had "sixpence in his pocket " the ship had "both sail and steam" I have a list of ships arriving in Port Mackay in those years has anyone any Knowledge of them or their passengers? The ships are Cheyabassa,Quetta,Dorunda,Merkara,Waroonga,Wistow Hall,Duke of Westminster, Dacca,Bulimba,Roma,Almora and Tumna Any help would be appreciated Iain [email protected]

Hello Again The reason that I am interested in a reference to PLEA ROLLS is that I found them mentioned in a document regarding a church in Staffordshire. The actual quote is "the first mention of a church is in the Plea Rolls in 1270. I believe that the knid people who have sent me the answer to my question may be correct but I still don't understand why a church was mentioned. Any suggestions would be most welcome. Thank You Hazel

Don, Are you sure the plea rolls cover criminal matters. From memory the plea rolls cover only civil cases, i.e. individuals suing one another for all sorts of reasons from breach of promise to marry through to breaches of contract etc but it is a long time since I have examined such things. Regards, Mark Mark Sutherland-Fisher Genealogist: Clan Sutherland Co-Genealogist: Clan Mackenzie Professional Genealogist specialising in the Highlands and 18th century see my web-site: http://www.highland-family-heritage.co.uk ----- Original Message ----- From: Don Munro <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 3:17 PM Subject: Re: [RossGen] Re: PLEA ROLL > Hazel, > > I did a search in the site www.pro.gov.uk and found this description - "Plea > roll. A parchment roll recording details of legal suits or actions in a > court of law." If this is the case I am sure you will be able to find out > more from court records. It is good to have criminal ancestors :) There was > also something about plea roll portraits but the first is probably what you > want. Have a look on the site for yourself to make sure. > > I hope this is of some help. > > Don > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Hazel Magann" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:36 AM > Subject: [RossGen] Re: PLEA ROLL > > > > Hello again > > I have asked previously but in case SKS didn't see my entry before can > anyone explain to me what a PLEA ROLL is. I feel though could bewrong that > it may come under POOR LAW records in a church. > > > > Regards > > Hazel > > > > > > ==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== > > To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: > http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm > > > > > > > ==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== > To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm > >

Hazel, I did a search in the site www.pro.gov.uk and found this description - "Plea roll. A parchment roll recording details of legal suits or actions in a court of law." If this is the case I am sure you will be able to find out more from court records. It is good to have criminal ancestors :) There was also something about plea roll portraits but the first is probably what you want. Have a look on the site for yourself to make sure. I hope this is of some help. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Hazel Magann" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, September 24, 2001 5:36 AM Subject: [RossGen] Re: PLEA ROLL > Hello again > I have asked previously but in case SKS didn't see my entry before can anyone explain to me what a PLEA ROLL is. I feel though could bewrong that it may come under POOR LAW records in a church. > > Regards > Hazel > > > ==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== > To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm > >

Does anyone have the wife/wives of a Captain George Munro of the 71st Regiment....he was of Culrain. Thankyou, Theresa Coleman

Hello again I have asked previously but in case SKS didn't see my entry before can anyone explain to me what a PLEA ROLL is. I feel though could bewrong that it may come under POOR LAW records in a church. Regards Hazel

Thank you all the kind people who have been helping chase up on my elusive ancestor Catherine McLeay of Applecross who married John Gollan. We have established that a Catherine McLeay married a Donald Gollan and they lived at Lonbain north of Applecross and can be found in the 1851,1861, 1871, 1881 & 1891 census and that she is the sister of ancestor of Iain McLennan and myself. However we believe now that she had a sister of the same name who also married a Gollan. We are looking for help re parish registers, census.....anything... Bobbie in NZ -----Original Message----- From: John MacLennan <[email protected]> To: Brian Amyes <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, 23 September 2001 04:22 Subject: Re: [RossGen] Gollans and McLeays >Hi! > >Since sending my last email I checked out Familysearch and discovered a John >Gollan, born around 1805 in Applecross, to Thomas Gollan and Isobel >MacDonald. Could this be a case of two brothers marrying two sisters? (I >don't know who Donalds parents were - do you?) > >The plot thickens. > >Regards >Iain > > > >

Hi Ian and other list members, Sorry if I confused you. There is no problem with my information on John McLeay who came to New Zealand. He is indeed one of the sons of Donald McLeay and Keat McRae. The other children in the family are Ann, Janet, Catherine, Alexander [1],Jessie, Donald and Alexander[2]. Both Alexanders had sons called John McLeay and both came to New Zealand to farm, and they ended up owning farms next to each other. The son of the second Alexander came to New Zealand as a direct result of the will I am talking about. John McLeay, the Uncle, left the farm to his brother Alexander and his son John McLeay. As you can see there were identical brothers and nephews called Alexander and John. Although my granfather, John McLeay, actually helped clear the land for his Uncle, John McLeay, in fact the farm went to John McLeay, the son of the second Alexander. Anyway I had always known about the will, and had seen a copy of its contents at the Land and Deeds Office, Wellington, NZ, in the 1980s, but on that occasion I only jotted down notes. When I went to National Archives, Wellington, this July I was able to get photocopies of probate, the will, etc and it was on this sheet I found the memo about his sister Kate being married to John Gollan and being a widow [in 1891] This did not tally with other information I had collected over the years and thought I might need to revisit my earlier assumptions about Kate McLeay who became a Gollan. She is a relation of both Ian and I. I am a descendant of Alexander McLeay [1], her brother, and Ian, I believe, you are a descendant of Donald McLeay, another brother. What I want to know is can anyone prove or disprove that Kate McLeay mentioned in A) 1847 March 8 Certificate for marriage granted to Donald Gollan, Lonbain and Catherine Macleay ,Callekille, both in this parish, [Applecross] is in fact the Kate Mcleay that belongs to my family line. I have never heard of there being two Kates / Catherines in the family. That is why I was wondering what was in the old parish registers and is Callekin north or south of Applecross? Are you sure there are that a Kate McLeay didn't marry a John Gollan....surely someone would know their own brother in law! The memo on the will also reads Kate as the widow of John Gollan. Would that not infer that she was alive in 1891? Is there no Kate Golland living round Dingwall in the 1891 census? It is all rather strange....so longing to hear back from anyone with information. Bobbie in NZ -----Original Message----- From: John MacLennan <[email protected]> To: Brian Amyes <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, 22 September 2001 23:11 Subject: Re: [RossGen] Gollans and McLeays >Hi! > >I am a bit confused with this one. Donald MacLeay and Keat Macrae did >indeed have a son called John, born about 1811, but I have no further >information on him. Is he the one whose will you have? > >I think they also had two daughters with similar names - Catherine 1809 who >married Donald Gollan but was dead by the 1881 census- and Keat b 1817. I >have no further information on her but neither she, nor her sister, appears >in the 1881 census. > >Furthermore the only John Gollan, born in Applecross, and in the 1881 census >was the son of Donald and Catherine Macleay. Could it be that he, like his >father, married a Catherine Macleay? > >Was the said Kate in the will dead in 1891? Who was residing near Dingwall, >Kate or her children? I'm not sure as it seems a bit ambiguous. > >I'd be interested to know the outcome of this and also who the will pertains >to. Were any other siblings mentioned? > >Regards, > >Iain MacLennan (gg grandson of Donald MacLeay and Kate MacRae) > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Brian Amyes" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: 22 September 2001 08:59 >Subject: [RossGen] Gollans and McLeays > > >> Could somebody check out the relevant records eg parish registers, census >documents and help me out of a quandary. Donald McLennan kindly looked up >parish records and census records for me in July1999 and we thought we had >found the right family for the marriage between my relative Catherine/Kate >McLeay and a Gollan. >> >> This is what we found: >> A) 1847 March 8 Certificate for marriage granted to Donald Gollan, >Lonbain and Catherine Macleay Callekille, both in this parish, [Applecross] >> >> B) Catherine MCLEAY b1809 d1869 married 8th March 1847 to Donald >GOLLAN >> They had the following children John 1849-50? Isabella 1852? Catherine >1856? Donald 1859 >> Fanny 1863 >> >> C) In the 1881 Census at Applecross Catherine's family are on FHL film >0203407 GRO Ref Vol 058-1 EnumDist 4 Page 2 as Gollans at Loanbane >> >> Others of my McLeay family lived at Lonbain, plus Sand and Salachar, so it >seemed the right family. However in July of this year, 2001, I found the >will of Catherine's brother John Macleay at National Archives, Wellington, >New Zealand. It was written in 1891. In it he refers to "the children of my >sister Kate now or lately residing near Dingwall in Rosshire". On the back >cover of the will was a note written at the same time. >> "Memo: The sister Kate referred to is the widow of John Gollan" >> >> This would mean that Kate McLeay the daughter of Donald McLea and Keat >McRae married not a Donald, but a John Gollan and that he was dead by 1891, >not Kate. >> This may also mean that she may be in the Dingwall 1891 census. >> >> Could anyone on this list help me out >> Regards Bobbie in NZ >> >> >> ==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== >> To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm >> >> > >

Could somebody check out the relevant records eg parish registers, census documents and help me out of a quandary. Donald McLennan kindly looked up parish records and census records for me in July1999 and we thought we had found the right family for the marriage between my relative Catherine/Kate McLeay and a Gollan. This is what we found: A) 1847 March 8 Certificate for marriage granted to Donald Gollan, Lonbain and Catherine Macleay Callekille, both in this parish, [Applecross] B) Catherine MCLEAY b1809 d1869 married 8th March 1847 to Donald GOLLAN They had the following children John 1849-50? Isabella 1852? Catherine 1856? Donald 1859 Fanny 1863 C) In the 1881 Census at Applecross Catherine's family are on FHL film 0203407 GRO Ref Vol 058-1 EnumDist 4 Page 2 as Gollans at Loanbane Others of my McLeay family lived at Lonbain, plus Sand and Salachar, so it seemed the right family. However in July of this year, 2001, I found the will of Catherine's brother John Macleay at National Archives, Wellington, New Zealand. It was written in 1891. In it he refers to "the children of my sister Kate now or lately residing near Dingwall in Rosshire". On the back cover of the will was a note written at the same time. "Memo: The sister Kate referred to is the widow of John Gollan" This would mean that Kate McLeay the daughter of Donald McLea and Keat McRae married not a Donald, but a John Gollan and that he was dead by 1891, not Kate. This may also mean that she may be in the Dingwall 1891 census. Could anyone on this list help me out Regards Bobbie in NZ