Hi Roger, You sound to have enough information to do some serious follow ups 1. Ann Gillanders has a brother John Gillanders who stayed in Scotland...so on Scotland's People you can look him up in the 1891 census and the 1901 census and you can find his death certificate. It will tell you his parents' names...father William which you know and Mother not known as yet. You also know that John was born in Inverness and an aproximate year of birth [around 1844-46] so you can go through Inverness Old Parish Registers for a son John born to William Gillanders[who was a timber merchant] 2. You also have John Gillanders as a Widower in the 1881 census, so his marriage certificate will also have his parents' names. 3. If the William Gillanders in the 1881 census is the correct William, you now know to look through the Urray Parish records for his birth and perhaps his marriage. Good hunting Bobbie Upper Hutt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger S Norris" <rogersnorris@ntlworld.com> To: <> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:46 AM Subject: [RossGen] Annie Gillanders > Hello readers, > > I am continuing my search for Annie Gillanders. > I know that Annie Gillanders married William LAMB in England in 1866. > > I now know that her father was shown as William Gillanders, Timber Merchant. > > She had the below child (Charles Lamb) who in 1881 was living with his > uncle, John Gillanders, in Denny, Stirling, Scotland. > > > Dwelling: Denny Public School House > Census Place: Denny, Stirling, Scotland GRO Ref Volume 476 EnumDist > 3 Page 40 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > John GILLANDERS W 36 M Inverness, Inverness, > Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Headmaster Public School > William H. STRANG U 23 M Denny, Stirling, Scotland > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Draper & Clothier > Charles LAMB 8 M England > Rel: Nephew > Occ: Scholar > > John Gillanders, like Annie, would not have been born in 1841. > > Roger > > > > > > > ==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== > To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm >

There is a birth of Alexander McLeod to Donald McLeod and Mc Gilandrus (perhaps another form of the Gillanders name) in Tain in 1780. I would be interested if you find any details getting back to this birth. Gordon McLeod -----Original Message----- From: Bobbie and Brian Amyes [mailto:bamyes@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 1:31 AM To: ROSSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [RossGen] Annie Gillanders Hi Roger, You sound to have enough information to do some serious follow ups 1. Ann Gillanders has a brother John Gillanders who stayed in Scotland...so on Scotland's People you can look him up in the 1891 census and the 1901 census and you can find his death certificate. It will tell you his parents' names...father William which you know and Mother not known as yet. You also know that John was born in Inverness and an aproximate year of birth [around 1844-46] so you can go through Inverness Old Parish Registers for a son John born to William Gillanders[who was a timber merchant] 2. You also have John Gillanders as a Widower in the 1881 census, so his marriage certificate will also have his parents' names. 3. If the William Gillanders in the 1881 census is the correct William, you now know to look through the Urray Parish records for his birth and perhaps his marriage. Good hunting Bobbie Upper Hutt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger S Norris" <rogersnorris@ntlworld.com> To: <> Sent: Monday, July 19, 2004 12:46 AM Subject: [RossGen] Annie Gillanders > Hello readers, > > I am continuing my search for Annie Gillanders. > I know that Annie Gillanders married William LAMB in England in 1866. > > I now know that her father was shown as William Gillanders, Timber Merchant. > > She had the below child (Charles Lamb) who in 1881 was living with his > uncle, John Gillanders, in Denny, Stirling, Scotland. > > > Dwelling: Denny Public School House > Census Place: Denny, Stirling, Scotland GRO Ref Volume 476 EnumDist > 3 Page 40 > Marr Age Sex Birthplace > John GILLANDERS W 36 M Inverness, Inverness, > Scotland > Rel: Head > Occ: Headmaster Public School > William H. STRANG U 23 M Denny, Stirling, Scotland > Rel: Boarder > Occ: Draper & Clothier > Charles LAMB 8 M England > Rel: Nephew > Occ: Scholar > > John Gillanders, like Annie, would not have been born in 1841. > > Roger > > > > > > > ==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== > To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm > ==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm

Hello Readers, I refer to my recent message regarding my quest to find Annie Gillanders and her family in 1851. At her marriage (Manchester, England) she gave her father as William Gillanders and his occupation as Timber Merchant, if the below is her father, will that help me find them in 1851? Annie should have been born c 1846. This an entry from the 1881 census: Dwelling: Linnie Willm Gillanders Census Place: Killearnan, Ross & Cromarty, Scotland GRO Ref Volume 068 EnumDist 1 Page 8 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William GILLANDERS W 69 M Urray, Ross and Cromarty, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Wood Forester Rachel GILLANDERS U 38 F Strathnairn, Inverness, Scotland Rel: Daur Roger --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.720 / Virus Database: 476 - Release Date: 14/07/2004

Hello readers, I am continuing my search for Annie Gillanders. I know that Annie Gillanders married William LAMB in England in 1866. I now know that her father was shown as William Gillanders, Timber Merchant. She had the below child (Charles Lamb) who in 1881 was living with his uncle, John Gillanders, in Denny, Stirling, Scotland. Dwelling: Denny Public School House Census Place: Denny, Stirling, Scotland GRO Ref Volume 476 EnumDist 3 Page 40 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John GILLANDERS W 36 M Inverness, Inverness, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Headmaster Public School William H. STRANG U 23 M Denny, Stirling, Scotland Rel: Boarder Occ: Draper & Clothier Charles LAMB 8 M England Rel: Nephew Occ: Scholar John Gillanders, like Annie, would not have been born in 1841. Roger

Hi Roddy My Macdonald's are from Latheron Parish, Caithness. They were living well up the Strath of Dunbeath and over into Braemore from the 1760's. The chances are they came over from Kildonan or down from Reay, but I will unlikely get much further back as there are no records available. I have found various references to the MacDonald's in east Sutherland (Kildonan, Clyne, Rogart etc) being called by the patronymic 'MacAdie', but I have failed to find the origin of this so far. What about your Strathconon lot. How far have you got back and when did they arrive there? Regards Alasdair Macdonald Currie, Midlothian -----Original Message----- From: Roddy Macdonald [mailto:roddy@macdonald50.freeserve.co.uk] Sent: 17 July 2004 11:52 To: 'Alasdair Macdonald' Subject: RE: [RossGen] TUACH Alasdair I noted your reply to Kyle and wondered if you might be interested in the same tribe of Macdonalds as me? My lot are from Strathconon. Yours aye Roddy K Macdonald Edinburgh, Scotland Clan Donald Society of Edinburgh <http://www.macdonald60.fsnet.co.uk/cdm/index.htm>

-----Original Message----- From: Alasdair Macdonald [mailto:afmac@blueyonder.co.uk] Sent: 17 July 2004 07:33 To: 'afmac@blueyonder.co.uk' Subject: TUACH Hi Kyle I am also researching the Tuach surname. My understanding of the origin of this MacKenzie family name was given to me from the librarian at Inverness a number of years ago. Around the time of Hector Roy MacKenzie, 1st of Gairloch (died c1528), a body of Mackenzie's went to aid Ewen Beag M'Connel M'Ewan of Locheil (the Cameron's) in Lochaber in some dispute or other with the MacIntoshes. As they were from the north they were given a 'nickname' and 'Tuachach' has in the gaelic some sort of inference to northerner. When some of these Mackenzie's returned north they continued to be known by their Lochaber nickname. Hector Roy's half-brother Duncan of Hilton was married to Ewan Cameron, 12th of Locheil. Hector Roy had a number of sons; John Glassic, his heir Kenneth of Meikle Allan, now Allangrange **John Tuach, who inherited Scatwell ** Dugal Roy His daughters married; Bayne of Tulloch John Aberach MacKay James Bayne Fraser of Bunchrew, son of Lovat, killed at Blar-na-Leine ancestors of the Fraser's of Reelick (The above information was extracted from 'History of the Genealogy of the Mackenzie's by Alexander MacKenzie'. My link is with Christina Tuach born c1810 Inverness who married Thomas Petrie 24 May 1847 Inverness. She died at Elgin in 1877 age 67 Father ---- Tuoch, Mother Isabella Tuoch m/s McLennan. I found a possible baptism in Gairloch for Christina; '1811, Christina, April 20, Roderick McKenzie and Isabell McLennan tenant farmer, land of Udnagal' Also in Dingwall there was married on 1 Sept 1797, Kenneth MacKenzie and Isabel McLennan. I have still to do research on Christina Tuach and her possible parents so can't say much more. That's all for now, Regards Alasdair Macdonald Currie, Midlothian -----Original Message----- From: Kyle Mcallister [mailto:Kylem@tesco.net] Sent: 14 June 2004 14:24 To: SCT-INVERNESS-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [SCT-INV] Tuach McKenzie, Kiltarlity, 1880 I am looking for any links to the Tuach Mckenzie family who were in Kiltarlity & Beauly from 1850 onwards. They originally came from nr Garve in Ross-shire, and subsequently they may have dropped the 'Tuach' part of the name. 'Tuach' was the gaelic equivalent of 'McKenzie' Any possible Tuach McKenzie researchers out there ? Many Thanks, Kyle McAllister

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Hello Julie, So far,you are the only person to respond, but I think I "cooked my goose" when my computer went astray and sent several copies of my original message. I know that Annie Gillanders married William LAMB in England in 1866 and had the below child (Charles Lamb) who in 1881 was living with his uncle, John Gillanders, in Denny, Stirling, Scotland. Dwelling: Denny Public School House Census Place: Denny, Stirling, Scotland GRO Ref Volume 476 EnumDist 3 Page 40 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John GILLANDERS W 36 M Inverness, Inverness, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Headmaster Public School William H. STRANG U 23 M Denny, Stirling, Scotland Rel: Boarder Occ: Draper & Clothier Charles LAMB 8 M England Rel: Nephew Occ: Scholar John Gillanders, like Annie, would not have been born in 1841. I am now hoping somebody may be able to help me with the 1851 census for Tarbat, Rosshire. Roger Hi iIdon't know if anyone has found her for you. But i have the 1841 census for Tarbat, Rosshire Although Anne would not be born I found one Gilanders family liing in the area.. They lived at "Geanies" William head,48 ag lab Margaret,38 years Donald 17y Johan ( female) 14y William 7y Janet 3.y Are these your anne's sibbling? If so find the 1851 census it will give you more details.. Julie

Hi Kyle, I haven't seen a reply to your email on either the Aberdeen List or The RossGen List so I now that we have have finished getting the house recarpeted [ It seemed like a thousand bits of furniture needed to be moved!], I thought I had better add my tuppence worth! I know that families with common surnames often had an alias attached, but I can't find the email that explains the name for the alias. I don't think it is 'Sept', which is another kind of alias, usually referring to subsets of a clan. In Applecross [Wester Ross] the OPR uses the word alias before it gives the alias eg bui or gow. One of which means blacksmith but I can't remember which! Example "OPR Applecross August 30th 1819 Baptised a child to Thos McKenzie (alias Gardener) Tenant in Torgarve by his wife ---- Tolmie [alias McLeod] by the name Keat" Alasdair Macdonald on this list is also interested in McKenzie families using the surname "Tuach". If you haven't heard from Alasdair, email me back. This is the kind of topic 'Donnie in Dingwell' would have set us right on! We miss him! Bobbie, in a newly carpeted house Upper Hutt, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kyle Mcallister" <Kylem@tesco.net> To: <> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2004 5:48 AM Subject: [RossGen] Tuach - from 1780 > Dear all, > > I am looking for any 'Tuach' data. > > The Tuach McKenzies are not my direct descendants > but my interest is because 2 male members married 2 sisters in my MATHESON family line. > I have around 200 Australian cousins who originated from Donald Tuach > McKenzie who was born in Contin in 1828, he died in Australia in 1906. His > older brother Roderick Tuach McKenzie (1819-1884) died in Kiltarlity, > Inverness-shire, leaving 8 children. > I first latched onto the 'Tuach' name because it was so unique, > unfortunately by about 1920 the 'Tuach McKenzie' name became 'McKenzie'. To > make things worse some earlier members are known as 'Tuach' with no > 'McKenzie'. > > Donald & Roderick Tuach McKenzie's parents were Alexander Tuach & Jean > Gillanders, both buried at Garve, Ross-shire. Alexander Tuach (1784-1859) > parents given as George Tuach & Ann MacLean. You can see my problem with the > name. > I have been told that the Tuach name comes from McKenzie of Gairloch. > > Headstone in Garve Cemetery, Ross Shire, Scotland: > "IN MEMORY/OF/ALEXANDER TUACH/ > Tasksman of Arriletrach/ > who departed this life of the 18 day of January 1859/ > Aged 76 Years/Justly esteemed by His/ > Acquaintances And beloved/by his Friends this Tribute/ > of Affection is Erected/by his Daughters/ > ANN AND ISABELLA TUACH/ > in Loving Remembrances/of A Dutiful Parent" > > This is the family that appears in the 1841,1851 & 1861 Contin census. > The other Tuach family I am linked to - they again married into the family - > are more elusive. > John Tuach (1844-1908) was born in Contin & died in Muir of Ord, > Ross-shire, leaving 9 children. > His parents being John Tuach & Margaret Macrae. He also had an older sister > Ann Tuach (1843-1927) who died in Urray, she married Donald McDonald. No > 'McKenzie' names with this lot ! > Are the Tuachs linked ? ... Maybe if you go way back to McKenzie of Gairloch ? > Thanks again, > > Kyle McAllister > > > > ==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== > To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm >

Is it correct to say that the parish of Urray is in the area of or presbytery of Dingwall, in the counry of Ross? Elizabeth

Gow = blacksmith Lachie (Lachlan Gow Munro)

Hi Mandi Send email to ROSSGEN-L-request@rootsweb.com with the single word: unsubscribe in the body of the mail, with NO additional text. Similar applies to all rootsweb lists. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: <AmCushie@aol.com> To: <ROSSGEN-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 14, 2004 8:50 PM Subject: [RossGen] Remove subscriber > Hi, > > I've been trying to go to the URL to have my email account removed and > so far I can't seem to get to the homepage. Can't find the site on my > server. Anybody know what else to do? > > Mandy > > > ==== ROSSGEN Mailing List ==== > To remove your email address from this list, visit this url: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cheps/maillist.htm > >

Hello Julie, So far,you are the only person to respond, but I think I "cooked my goose" when my computer went astray and sent several copies of my original message. I know that Annie Gillanders married William LAMB in England in 1866 and had the below child (Charles Lamb) who in 1881 was living with his uncle, John Gillanders, in Denny, Stirling, Scotland. Dwelling: Denny Public School House Census Place: Denny, Stirling, Scotland GRO Ref Volume 476 EnumDist 3 Page 40 Marr Age Sex Birthplace John GILLANDERS W 36 M Inverness, Inverness, Scotland Rel: Head Occ: Headmaster Public School William H. STRANG U 23 M Denny, Stirling, Scotland Rel: Boarder Occ: Draper & Clothier Charles LAMB 8 M England Rel: Nephew Occ: Scholar John Gillanders, like Annie, would not have been born in 1841. I am now hoping somebody may be able to help me with the 1851 census for Tarbat, Rosshire. Roger Hi iIdon't know if anyone has found her for you. But i have the 1841 census for Tarbat, Rosshire Although Anne would not be born I found one Gilanders family liing in the area.. They lived at "Geanies" William head,48 ag lab Margaret,38 years Donald 17y Johan ( female) 14y William 7y Janet 3.y Are these your anne's sibbling? If so find the 1851 census it will give you more details.. Julie --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 12/07/2004

Hi, I've been trying to go to the URL to have my email account removed and so far I can't seem to get to the homepage. Can't find the site on my server. Anybody know what else to do? Mandy

Gillanders (Servant of Andrew) is an ancient name and has strong Rosshire connections. The Clan Ross are also known as Clann Anrias and according to Black " Gillanders as a surname is often equivalent to Ross". I think there are still Gillanders in Denny, and I went to school with a William Strang in Denny High School. Lachie Munro

Hello Readers, I am new to this list. I am attempting to find Annie Gillanders and her family. According to the 1881 census she was born in 1846 at Rosshire?, could you assist me to find her. Roger --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.718 / Virus Database: 474 - Release Date: 09/07/2004

Roger don't worry about it. You could give it a drink of water and/or pat it's back! Are you sure it is the fault of your computer? It might be a Rootsweb blip. I have noticed on other lists that in some instances there are several repeats of messages sent in by Listers. Because there has been a backlog of messages due to a server being down and these are now coming through, it is possible that it is Rootsweb that has the hiccups! -----Original Message----- From: Roger S Norris [mailto:rogersnorris@ntlworld.com] Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 8:36 AM To: ROSSGEN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [RossGen] A P O L O G Y Hello Readers, Sorry about the blip on my computer when sending a message about Annie Gillanders, hopefully I've cured it. Roger --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.719 / Virus Database: 475 - Release Date: 7/12/2004

Hello Readers, Sorry about the blip on my computer when sending a message about Annie Gillanders, hopefully I've cured it. Roger --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.718 / Virus Database: 474 - Release Date: 09/07/2004

Hello Readers, Sorry about the blip on my computer when sending a message about Annie Gillanders, hopefully I've cured it. Roger --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.718 / Virus Database: 474 - Release Date: 09/07/2004

Actually Roger, you made my day, I though I had 33 new friends. Lachie