---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 14:01:25 -0700 From: Jan Ross <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: {not a subscriber} Blue Heron Coal Mine, Stearns, KY The following Rosses were in a picture located at the Blue Heron Coal Mine, mine #18, taken on March 15, 1934: Milton ROSS Lawrence ROSS James ROSS Donald ROSS King ROSS Dillard ROSS Earl ROSS Oda ROSS I'm sure there were many others working there during that time, but these were the only ones identified in a picture. Hope this helps someone! Blessings, Ron & Jan Ross [email protected] http://focusontheword.com ICQ#18767082 "Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalayim" (Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem) Psalm 122:6 ~*~*~*~*~*~* Focus On the Word Banner Exchange--Sign Up Today and Receive 2,500 Free Credits http://focusontheword.com/banex

This and the following two emails were bounced to me (the listowner) by the Rootsweb software because the senders e-address is not on the subscriber list (Jan please send me the copy of this message you get from the list with full headers so I can adjust the subscriber list) Donald. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Sat, 7 Oct 2000 13:56:41 -0700 From: Jan Ross <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: {not a subscriber} Ross Grove United Baptist Church, Stearns KY Hi! We went to the Thomas M. Ross Cemetery located at the Ross Grove United Baptist Church near or in Stearns, KY, on the road to the old mine. We found the following Ross graves and thought we'd post them in the hopes it would help someone: ROSS, Virgil: 3/16/1920 3/25/1988 m. 6/23/1944 Eloise: 3/10/1928 - 1/1/2000 ROSS, Rick A.: 5/31/1954 ROSS, Donald : 9/18/1914 - 11/23/1983 m. 9/17/1938 Zelma L.: 5/17/1921 - ROSS, Ricky: 1858 - 1858 son of M & M Lenden Ross ROSS, Minnie Mae: 9/18/1938 - 12/12/1938 ROSS, Delton Ray Ross: 8/10/1941 - 11/21/1941 ROSS, Mary: 7/22/1945 - 7/22/1945 BYERS, Gladys Ross: 2/25/1916 - 3/16/1960 ROSS, Nim R: 9/1/1880 - 10/10/1964 Jalie Lee: 9/12/1988 - 11/15/1961 ROSS, T.M.: 2/2/1852 - 8/24/1925 Nancy: 4/2/1847 - 12/2/1922 ROSS, James: 2/19/1882 - 11/21/1964 Polly: 5/4/1889 - 10/9/1969 ROSS, Leonard: 7/25/1917 - 12/24/1897 S.Sgt. US Army, Korea ROSS, Paul J.: 1927 - 1994 ROSS, Noble K.: 11/25/1919 - 12/24/1941 KY Pvt. 68th Field Arty ROSS, Butler: 5/22/1915 - 5/23/1935 ROSS, Starlin: 2/17/1922 or 1921 - 11/18/1977 Sgt US Army WWII Anna Mae: 5/21/1928 - 6/17/1974 ROSS, Lonzo: 12/25/1908 - 5/4/1985 Nola Mae: 8/14/1912 - 11/3/1985 ROSS, Carol: 12/4/1939 - 12/22/1939 One thing we noticed about this cemetery . . . although many of the graves were old, many of the sites looked rather new. Either they had done some filling in of sunken places or some graves had recently been moved. There was no one around to ask about this. Hope this helps someone . . . hopefully we will make some kind of connection here as our allegedly large ROSS family included coalminers. Blessings, Ron & Jan Ross [email protected] http://focusontheword.com ICQ#18767082 "Sha'alu Shalom Yerushalayim" (Pray for the Peace of Jerusalem) Psalm 122:6 ~*~*~*~*~*~* Focus On the Word Banner Exchange--Sign Up Today and Receive 2,500 Free Credits http://focusontheword.com/banex

Posted on: Ross Family Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Ross/527 Surname: Ross, Overstreet, Meek ------------------------- Bonnie: Thanks to your cousin for checking the graves. I would really appreciate it and especially if he can find any clue to my great grandparents on my mother's side. I have been looking for years for ELLA IVA ROSS; Know where she as born, the date and have the to marriage certificates for both marriages but no parents names. Looking in the 1880 census there is a possiblity but it only shows the mother, Rebekka and four children. There is no husband. It looks like it could be Ella as she also had a sister named, Susan Rose Allie Ross and she too is listed. So I will be glad to see what the names on the stones are. By the way, did you know of a Renfro family who lived in Grundy, MO? Shebly Renfro was married to Allie and my grandfather, Walter E. Meek was married to Ella. Thanks again Ella May

It was my understanding that our Ross family came from somewhere in the Brithis Isles "in the last ship that left before the Rev. War started" and it was further said that they went to PA. Where? I don't know. All I know is that the family had a six-year old son named Samuel. I figure that he had to have been born about 1770. The first time he shows up in anything is when he married Margaret Baird Wasson, a widow, in 1796 in Bourbon Co, KY. I don't suppose my family fits anything you have, does it? Can't help asking anyhow. Julia

Posted on: Ross Family Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Ross/525 Surname: ross wilson ------------------------- i am looking for the parents of albert ross b. 1828 d.1905 he married margret wilson b. 1830 d. 1912. they had one child emma. i have hit a dead end with him. thank you!

There were several ROSS families living in Oxford Twp., Chester Co., PA during the 1700's. Specifically, there were two brothers, John and James, who raised large families there. I would be very happy to exchange information on these families.

Hello to all, I am searching for the descendants and/or ancestors of William Mitchinson ROSS first son of Thomas ROSS and Jane Mlitchinson, born on 29 Sep 1842 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Jane and her second James went to New York City about 1862 and then to Kingston, Ontario in 1863. I have listed what we have found for our Ross family from Carlisle, Cumberland; William Mitchinson is # 10. Any assistance would be greatly appreciated. June Ross, Toronto, Ontario [email protected] First Generation ---------------------------------------- 1. William ROSS. Born abt 1758. William died in Carlisle, Cumberland, England on 1 Sep 1834. On 19 Jan 1787 when William was 29, he first married Blanche ARMSTRONG, in Plumbland, Cumbria, England. Born abt 1761. Blanche died in Carlisle, St. Mary, Cumberland, England in 1810. They had the following children: 2 i. John (1788-1811) 3 ii. William (1789-) 4 iii. Thomas (1792-1794) 5 iv. James (1795-1875) 6 v. Joseph (1803-) On 6 Oct 1811 when William was 53, he second married Mary BELL, daughter of Thomas BELL & Ann, in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Born in 1772 in Bolton, Cumberland, England. Mary died in Stanwix, Cumberland, England on 3 Mar 1842. They had the following children: 7 i. John (1812-) 8 ii. Thomas (1815-1851) 9 iii. Michael (1818-1875) Second Generation ---------------------------------------- 2. John ROSS. Born on 19 Jun 1788 in Kendal, Westmoreland, England. Christened on 13 Jul 1788 in Kendal, Westmoreland, England. John died in 1811. Buried on 22 Jul 1811. 3. William ROSS. Born on 25 Oct 1789 in Kendal, Cumberland, England. Christened on 22 Nov 1789 in Kendal, Cumberland, England. 4. Thomas ROSS. Born on 16 Oct 1792 in Kendal, Westmoreland, England. Christened on 11 Nov 1792 in Kendal, Westmoreland, England. Thomas died in 1794. Buried on 20 Jan 1794. 5. James ROSS. Born on 19 Aug 1795 in Kendal, Westmoreland, England. Christened on 13 Sep 1795 in Kendal, Westmoreland, England. James died in Stanwix, Cumberland, England on 31 May 1875. Buried on 3 Jun 1875 in Stanwix, Cumberland, England. 6. Joseph ROSS. Born on 1 Jan 1803 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Christened on 5 Feb 1803 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. 7. John ROSS. Born in 1812 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Christened on 11 Oct 1812 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. 8. Thomas ROSS. Born in 1815 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Christened on 7 Sep 1815 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Thomas died in Carlisle, Cumberland, England in 1851/1856. On 15 Feb 1842 when Thomas was 27, he married Jane MITCHINSON, daughter of John MITCHINSON & Ann GRAHAM, in Carlisle, St. Mary, Cumberland, England. Born in 1822 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Jane died in Athens, Leeds County on 22 Mar 1899. They had the following children: 10 i. William Mitchinson (1842-) 11 ii. James (1845-1914) 9. Michael ROSS. Born in 1818 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Christened on 1 Jan 1818 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Michael died in Carlisle, Cumberland, England in 1875. Buried on 9 Dec 1875 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. In 1851 when Michael was 33, he married Jane HAMILTON, daughter of Joseph HAMILTON & Nancy THOMPSON. Born in 1823 in Kirkoswald, Cumberland, England. They had the following children: 12 i. Mary (~1844-) 13 ii. Annie (1845-) 14 iii. Jane Elizabeth (1850-) 15 iv. John (1852-) 16 v. Margaret (1853-) 17 vi. Joseph (1857-) 18 vii. William 19 viii. Elizabeth Bird (1864-) 20 ix. James (1864-) Third Generation ---------------------------------------- 10. William Mitchinson ROSS. Born on 29 Sep 1842 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. 11. James ROSS. Born on 1 Feb 1845 in Stoney Holme, Cumberland, England. Christened on 4 May 1845 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. James died in Toronto, York County, Ontario on 3 Jul 1914. Buried in Athens, Leeds County, Ontario. On 15 Dec 1874 when James was 29, he first married Emma HOGLE, in Bath, Leeds County, Ontario. Born abt 1852. Emma died abt 1879. They had one child: 21 i. Annie (1876-1902) On 23 Jan 1884 when James was 38, he second married Isabella MOORE, daughter of Mark MOORE & Ann ELLIOT, in Athens, Leeds County, Ontario. Born on 2 Mar 1855 in Athens, Leeds County, Ontario. Isabella died in Toronto, York County, Ontario on 1 Aug 1941. They had the following children: 22 i. James Archibald Campbell Tait (1887-1964) 23 ii. Roberta (-~1956) 12. Mary ROSS. Born abt 1844 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. On 4 Jul 1865 when Mary was 21, she married William AINSWORTH, son of George AINSWORTH, in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. 13. Annie ROSS. Born on 13 Jul 1845 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Christened on 11 Aug 1845 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. 14. Jane Elizabeth ROSS. Born in 1850 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Christened on 19 May 1850 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. 15. John ROSS. Born in 1852 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Christened on 11 Jan 1852 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. 16. Margaret ROSS. Born in 1853 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Christened on 4 Dec 1853 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. On 17 Nov 1874 when Margaret was 21, she married Joseph TAYLOR, in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. They had one child: 24 i. Mary Anne (1888-) 17. Joseph ROSS. Born in 1857 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Christened on 1 Mar 1857 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. 18. William ROSS. 19. Elizabeth Bird ROSS. Born in 1864 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Christened on 13 Nov 1864 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. On 5 Jul 1886 when Elizabeth Bird was 22, she married Francis LAMB, son of Francis LAMB, in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Born in 1862. 20. James ROSS. Born in 1864 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Christened on 13 Nov 1864 in Carlisle, Cumberland, England. Fourth Generation ---------------------------------------- 21. Annie ROSS. Born on 16 May 1876 in Lansdowne, Leeds County, Ontario. Annie died in Athens, Leeds County, Ontario on 10 Apr 1902; she was 25. 22. James Archibald Campbell Tait ROSS. Born on 30 Aug 1887 in Athens, Leeds County, Ontario. James Archibald Campbell Tait died in Toronto, York County, Ontario on 1 Nov 1964; he was 77. Buried in Toronto, York County, Ontario. On 20 Jan 1917 when James Archibald Campbell Tait was 29, he married Chlevera May HALLIDAY, daughter of William Benjamin HALLIDAY & Maria DIXIE, in Toronto, York County, Ontario. Born on 28 Sep 1895 in Athens, Leeds County, Ontario. Chlevera May died in Toronto, York County, Ontario in 1987. They had the following children: i. Donald Campbell (1920-) ii. Alan Tait (1925-) iii. Audrey Chlevera (1927-) 23. Roberta ROSS. Born on 20 July in Athens, Leeds County, Ontario. Roberta died abt 1956 in Toronto, York County, Ontario. Roberta married John McKEAN. They had one child: i. Isabella 24. Mary Anne TAYLOR. Born on 20 Feb 1888. Christened on 20 Mar 1889.

Hi Folks, Anyone else interested in the ROSS family in Queensland in the late 1800's? William George 1881 (son of Joseph) Mary Rae 1912 Would be great to others with the same interest. Regards

Like to invite the list members for a visit to my Scottish Website. http://snrw.homestead.com/one.html Slainte, Peter

Daniel NORRIS - 12631 ———————————————————————————————————————— Birth: Between 1746/1748 Place: Charleston SC Death: 1818/1819 Father: John NORRIS Jr - 12629 (1710-1768) Mother: Jane (CAMMELL) ?? - 12630 (1728-1791) ———————————————————————————————————————— Marriage: 27 October 1783 Place: St. Johns Lutheran Church ———————————————————————————————————————— Wife: Mary ROSS - 12669 ———————————————————————————————————————— ———————————————————————————————————————— Husband’s Notes... ———————————————————————————————————————— Research: in 1785 a Daniel Norris received 200 acres situated on South Forks of Broadway Waters of the Savannah River Last Modified: 10 June 2000 Flora Newby 3243 Old Chapel Spring Texas 77373 281 353 4226 [email protected]

John Henry ROSS Sr - 8707 ———————————————————————————————————————— ———————————————————————————————————————— Marriage: 23 November 1820 ———————————————————————————————————————— Wife: Melissa Amelia Martin HUDSON - 8016 ———————————————————————————————————————— Birth: 28 January 1806 Place: Greenville Co SC Death: 15 June 1880 Father: Lunsford HUDSON - 7610 (1768-1856) Mother: Amelia PARKS - 8014 (1781-) ———————————————————————————————————————— Children... ———————————————————————————————————————— 1. F Child: Gilly Caroline ROSS - 8708 Birth: 26 January 1828 Place: Greenville Co SC Death: 20 September 1905 Place: Oconee Co SC Spouse: Reuben Winfield LEE - 9662 Marriage: About 1846 Last Modified: 13 May 2000 Flora Newby 3243 Old Chapel Spring Texas 77373 281 353 4226 [email protected]

Noel, this is a very long shot, but I have a couple (literally a couple, just two of them!) of Rosses in the same general area as your Rosses, although in a different time period. What makes me think that there could be a long-ago connection is the given names of your Ross men. This is what I have" Jane ROSS, b ca1740-45, marr William ROBERTSON, b ca 1735 @ Monymusk, Aberdeenshire. Jane was the d/o Alexander ROSS of Balnagowen, Aberdeenshire. The son of William & Jane (Ross) ROBERTSON, Archibald ROBERTSON, came to America, arriving in NYC in Oct of 1791, where he marr Eliza ABRAMSE. So, as you can see, I'm pinning my hopes on the given name Alexander! Do you think the name could have been used in your ROSS family, down through several generations? (I do know that it's done, at least in some Scottish families, as the surname Robertson has been used at least since the late 1700's, until the present day. It was my father's first name, and it's now my younger son's first name.) I know that I'm grabbing at straws, but I've been stuck in the same spot on these two families for 20 years! I'm entitled to grab! Seriously, though, if you learn more of your ROSSes in earlier years, and you think there could be a connection with the Robertsons, I'd really appreciate it a lot if you'd let me know. Thanks for "listening". Barbara in MO

Posted on: Ross Family Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Ross/524 Surname: Ross ------------------------- I am searching for my father Richard Dean Ross born in Missori about 1945 give or take a year. He lived in Ohio in 1965. In 1967 in California and may have went to war. Any info please e-mail me at [email protected] Thank You, Athena

I have been researching my roots from Nairn through Scots Origins and have got to the stage of requiring "local" knowledge. My Ggrandfather was born in Nairn 1830 & emigrated to Oz about 1850. His parents were Alexander Ross & Elizabeth Stewart. Alexander's parents were James Ross & Isabel(lla?) McBeth (or McBeath). Has anyone researched these families? Would anyone have a transcription of local cemeteries in the Parish of Nairn, County of Nairn? Alexander (seems to be a very common name in this family!) died in 1863 but I can't find the date of James's death. Regards - Noel Ross from Kangaroo Valley NSW Australia.

Posted on: Ross Family Query Forum Reply Here: http://genconnect.rootsweb.com/gc/FamilyAssoc/Ross/523 Surname: Ross ------------------------- I am needing info on Bourbon Brown Ross was originally from the Lawrence/Gallia County, Ohio area died in Cincinnati,Oh. What I am searching for is his parents names and on back through the line of Ross's. I was told his father was William. Any help would be appreciate.My email address is [email protected]

Posted on: Ross Family Query Forum Reply Here: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Ross/521 Surname: Ross, Marine, Tobin, Sperry ------------------------- Don't know if this helps, but there is a marion Township in the Eastern part of Fayette county, OH.

Captain Isaac Ross is said to be the second son and youngest child of Isaac (Issac Sr.) and Jean Brown Ross in the Ann Mims Wright book. He was born 1765 in Orangeburg Co., SC. Captain Issac married Jane Allison, daughter of Andrew and Margaret Allison. Captain Isaac went to Jefferson Co., MS in about 1808 and built a large plantation with hundreds of slaves. Captain Isaac died in 1836. His will was very unusual. He provided that his slaves be given their freedom. That they be sent to Liberia and an institution of learning established there. Captain Isaac's children contested the will and the will contest went on few many years. After long litigation the will was upheld by the courts. The estate was valued at about $100,000 plus 200 slaves. While waiting for the resolution of the will, the slaves on the Ross plantation became angry at the delay and burnt down the structures. Finally in 1849, the slaves were transported to Liberia. The Wright book appears to attributes Captain Issac's will to the influence of religious neighbors. However, there is another version of this which is that Captain Isaac was part black through his mother and was sympathetic to the plight of black slaves as a result. At the time Captain Isaac was born, Isaac Sr. had an older son named Isaac (Isaac Jr.) who was born from his first marriage to a woman named Elizabeth (I believe). There is a controversy about whether Captain Isaac was really a son of Isaac Sr. and Jean Brown Ross or whether he was their grandson. There is a theory that he was really the illegitimate (or legitimate?) son of Isaac Jr. and a black woman named Mary Gibson. There was a PBS series on Frontline done by a man named Mario Valdes. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/secret/famous/ in which he discussed the racial background of some famous American families. The Gibsons were a well known African American family. Below is an email from Mario Valdes in which he discusses the Gibsons and Captain Isaac. Interesting stuff! Donna To: June Cross Fr: Mario Valdes Dt: April 25th, 1996 As I explained earlier with my first pass at the Gibson genealogy completed, I am not at all sure that President Clinton is a descendant of the black Gibsons. And here's why. Having at last seen what is probably the only work attempting to differentiate the three or four Gibson families who immigrated to South Carolina in the 18th century, patterns in first names lead me to suspect that Clinton is descended from a white Rev. Jacob Gibson who became pastor of the Broad River Baptist Church, Fairfield Co. in 1771. The names Jacob and Joseph show up among his children and grandchildren and since Clinton's Gibson ancestor is a Joseph (who, in the 1850 census also lists a Jacob as a son) there is a fifty-fifty chance that he is a member of this particular line of Gibsons. I said fifty-fifty because, on the other hand, from the system the enumerators employed, it might also be that Joseph Gibson who would have been thirty at the time of the 1820 census, was living in the household of a Jordan Gibson. That year there were only two Gibson males of that age group not yet heading their own households. With the help of an extant will one can be identified. It is quite possible therefore that the other unnamed male Gibson living with Jordan Gibson in Marion Co. is Joseph. Not only because Jordan was a traditional first name of the African American Gibsons but because documentation available proves it, there can be no doubt about which Gibson family he belonged to. If it is, indeed, Joseph who was enumerated along with Jordan Gibson in the 1820 census then we could safely assume that he too was a descendant of the inter-racial clan that Winthrop Jordan first pointed out in "White Over Black." What could add to this specific possibility is that in the genealogical work I refered to, there are both a Jacob and a Joseph who are identified respectively as a son and a grandson of one Randal Gibson, another first name especially associated with those Gibsons of colour who would migrate to Mississippi and Kentucky. Furthermore, given the clues to names provided by the work of Virginia Demarce and Paul Heinegg, and the racial description of the individuals enumerated, a look at the 1850 census of South Carolina where this particular branch of the Gibsons and their relatives hailed from, reveals that part of the state could well have qualified as a tri-racial community. What About President Carter? Although President Clinton's descent from the African American Gibsons is, at least for the time being, an open ended question, President Carter's, on the other hand, is, comparitively, less problematic. Because of the work on the Gibsons that now serves as my guide, I am fairly confident that the Gibson Dawson the New England Historical Genealogical Society identified as his great, great, great grand father was the son of a Gibson woman who, considering her location in Edgefield Co. during the latter quarter of the 18th century, appears to be related to the Gibsons we are researching. As I also mentioned, in Salt Lake City I came across a partial Wallace genealogy with a South Carolina Gibson in it. Will try following that line to see if it is the Alabama Governor's. The Gibsons' Prominence and Influence Despite the vague idea I initially had of the kind of social prominence the Gibsons once enjoyed, it was not until I was able to compare the bare genealogical data retrieved on the trip with the state histories, biographical dictionaries, Who's Whos , etc. etc. here at Harvard that I got a much clearer picture of just how close to the axis of power this family has been able to position itself. Besides maintaining their own place in southern politics for over two centuries, on the diplomatic marriage market they were able to ally themselves with families like the Harrisons of Virginia who produced a signer of the Declaration of Independence and two US Presidents. Louisiana State Senator Randal Gibson's aunt, for example, was married to Robert Trimble of Mississippi, two of whose cousins, William and William Allen Trimble, were Senators of Kentucky and Ohio respectively while a third, Allen Trimble became Governor of Ohio. A sister of his mother's was the wife of a Supreme Court Justice, Judge White. I should point out here that John Gibson, either an uncle or a cousin of Senator Randal's, had also been appointed Governor of Louisiana but declined because of his health. Mentioned, didn't I, that the Senator's son married Marshall Field's niece? The first transcontinental railway magnate Thomas Butler King was the brother in law of Mary Gibson Fort, a great, great, grand daughter of black Gideon Gibson, the Regulator. When she married Stephen Clay King in 1823, this Georgia heiress brought him a dowery of land and slaves just as large as the one Thomas' wife, an heiress like herself, had provided her husband to fund his enteprises with. In point of fact, Stephen Clay was not only Thomas Butler King's partner but his major financier, as well, even though he is hardly mentioned in the history of his brother's contribution to this development in transportation. (Incidentally, Mary's daughter, Martha, married John H. Hull, the brother of the Governor of Florida.) Until I provide you with more details on some of the other families we have been following, would like you to take a look at the attached so that you can see from these "primary sources"(the bio was taken from a history of Kentucky published in the 20s.) just how eminently the Gibsons were once regarded. From the description of Duncan Gibson's race horses to the almost breathless adulation with which his branch of the Gibson family are written up, it is quite obvious that they were perceived as nothing less than the very epitome of Kentucky Blue Blood society. Captain Isaac Ross is a prominent Gibson descendent who lived in the first half of the 19th century. But by describing Captain Ross as the child instead of the grandchild of Isaac Ross and Jane Brown, the author of an article from the Journal of Mississippi History conveniently glossed over the fact that Captain Isaac was in fact the son of a Gibson woman (Mary Gibson who was married to Isaac.) Interestingly enough though, he did mention that one of the family weddings had been performed by Rev. Randall Gibson (a name that identifies him as a black Gibson.) Besides the biographical perspective this article offered, I thought you might be able to use the first few lines as an example of how passing is achieved at even this chronological distance. What I could not help but find even more intriguing was the Afro-Am content of the piece and its possible historical context vis a vis the Ross family's Gibson descent. "Captain Isaac Ross provided in his will that his slaves should be sent to Liberia, if they elected to go, through the American Colonization Society, and his entire fortune was to care for them, except about $10,000, given to his granddaughter. The inventory made under the order of the Court gave one hundred and sixty slaves, 5,000 acres of well improved land and personal property valued at around $100,000....It was not to be expected that the heirs of Captain Ross would quietly permit this valuable estate to pass out of their hands as an expected inheritance without protest. The will was contested, and after twelve years of litigation conducted by some of the ablest talent in Mississippi,...the Supreme Courts sustained the validity of the will." From "Captain Isaac Ross and Some of His Descendants" by Thomas M. Wade in The Journal of Mississippi History, Vol. 9, 1947 The piece goes on to describe how as a result of this long litigation which began in 1838, the slaves thought that if they could get rid of Isaac Ross Wade, the acting executor and general manager of the estate, they could at last get to Africa. It was supposedly at the urgings of the American Colonization Society in Port Gibson that the slaves, unable to tolerate the interminable delays, rose up and burnt the mansion while Wade was entertaining. Because most of the estate had been spent defraying court costs, it was not until 1849, after they had worked for another two years to cover their transportation that these former slaves were finally allowed to embark for Liberia. While waiting for a ship in New Orleans, however, twenty five died of cholera. Only ninety reached their destination and having arrived in such dramatically reduced fiscal circumstances, this colonization attempt proved a "complete failure." Besides the fact that their "passing" has, fortuitously, been well documented, do not forget that even while still recognizable as people of colour, the Gibsons began making an impact on the political life of the nation. Indeed, Rachel Kline in "Unification of a Slave State", a monograph I came across at the University of South Carolina published in 1990, pointed out that as the leader of the Regulators, Gideon Gibson's race was undoubtedly a problem for the colonial government especially since he was so successfully able to defy it. And even though I am hoping that you use Brown's work on the South Carolina Regulators as an example of how Gibson's ethnic background was ignored for other political reasons, it was he who drew attention to the fact that the alliance of planters Gideon led began chanting "no taxation without representation" a number of years before we threw our tea party here in Boston harbour.

ALL I KNOW OF MY ANCESTOR IS THAT HIS NAME MAY HAVE BEEN THOMAS ROSS & HE MAY HAVE DIED 23-OCT-1876......DOES ANYONE KNOW MORE ????........HELP !! DOES ANYONE KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT THOMAS ROSS M) MARY BECK 16-FEB-1843,PERRY CO.,OH ??..WHO WERE THEIR PARENTS ?? WHO WERE THEIR CHILDREN ??

Hi Donna, Isaac Allison Ross and his wife, Eugenia, were neighbors to John Isaac W. Ross and his family, also of Jefferson County, Mississippi. John is a few years older than Isaac A., being born abt. 1824. He appears to have been about 8 years old when his father, Isaac Ross, Jr., died in 1832. I got from another source (can't recall at the moment) that John Isaac Ross was the son of Isaac Ross and Sarah Elliott. Yes, I would be most interested in other info you have about the history of Isaac's father. Much Thanks! Mel -----Original Message----- From: DSuarez <[email protected]> To: Melvin J. Collier <[email protected]>; [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 11:21 AM Subject: Re: [ROSS-L] Isaac & Sarah Ross - Mississippi >Hi Mel, > >I wouldn't suggest that the Wright book is particularly accurate but I'm >curious to know where you got the second son for Isaac and Sarah. The >book says nothing about Sarah's ancestry. > >I assume that you are aware of the book's version of the history of Isaac's >father? If not, I can summarize it and add information from other sources. > >Donna > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Melvin J. Collier" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:14 AM >Subject: Re: [ROSS-L] Isaac & Sarah Ross - Mississippi > > >Hi Donna, >Captain Isaac Ross's son, Isaac Ross Jr. and Sarah Elliott Ross had two sons >I believe: John Isaac Ross, Sr. and Isaac Allison Ross. Isaac Ross, Jr. >died >in 1832. Sarah then married a Levin Marshall. Does that book mention >anything about when Sarah Elliott Ross Marshall died, and also her birth and >parents? Thanks! > >Mel > >-----Original Message----- >From: DSuarez <[email protected]> >To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >Date: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:03 AM >Subject: Re: [ROSS-L] Isaac & Sarah Ross - Mississippi > > >According to "A record of the descendants of Isaac Ross and Jean Brown" by >Ann Mims Wright, Issac and Sarah Elliot Ross had only one son, Isaac >Alllison Ross who married Eugenia Calhoun and they had no children. Do you >have different information? > >Donna > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Melvin J. Collier" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 7:17 AM >Subject: [ROSS-L] Isaac & Sarah Ross - Mississippi > >Hi, >Seeking information on Isaac Ross, Jr. and Sarah Elliott Ross? Not sure >when Isaac Ross was born, but he died in 1832 in Jefferson County, >Mississippi. >He married Sarah Elliott, and they had several children. Seeking the names >of Sarah Elliott Ross's parents, her dates of birth & death, etc. Any info >on this Ross line will be appreciated. THANKS! > > >==== ROSS Mailing List ==== >Also post your Ross queries on the Ross Genconnect board at: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Ross > >______________________________ > > > >==== ROSS Mailing List ==== >Also post your Ross queries on the Ross Genconnect board at: >http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Ross > > > > >

Hi Mel, I wouldn't suggest that the Wright book is particularly accurate but I'm curious to know where you got the second son for Isaac and Sarah. The book says nothing about Sarah's ancestry. I assume that you are aware of the book's version of the history of Isaac's father? If not, I can summarize it and add information from other sources. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melvin J. Collier" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 03, 2000 6:14 AM Subject: Re: [ROSS-L] Isaac & Sarah Ross - Mississippi Hi Donna, Captain Isaac Ross's son, Isaac Ross Jr. and Sarah Elliott Ross had two sons I believe: John Isaac Ross, Sr. and Isaac Allison Ross. Isaac Ross, Jr. died in 1832. Sarah then married a Levin Marshall. Does that book mention anything about when Sarah Elliott Ross Marshall died, and also her birth and parents? Thanks! Mel -----Original Message----- From: DSuarez <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Monday, October 02, 2000 10:03 AM Subject: Re: [ROSS-L] Isaac & Sarah Ross - Mississippi According to "A record of the descendants of Isaac Ross and Jean Brown" by Ann Mims Wright, Issac and Sarah Elliot Ross had only one son, Isaac Alllison Ross who married Eugenia Calhoun and they had no children. Do you have different information? Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Melvin J. Collier" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, October 02, 2000 7:17 AM Subject: [ROSS-L] Isaac & Sarah Ross - Mississippi Hi, Seeking information on Isaac Ross, Jr. and Sarah Elliott Ross? Not sure when Isaac Ross was born, but he died in 1832 in Jefferson County, Mississippi. He married Sarah Elliott, and they had several children. Seeking the names of Sarah Elliott Ross's parents, her dates of birth & death, etc. Any info on this Ross line will be appreciated. THANKS! ==== ROSS Mailing List ==== Also post your Ross queries on the Ross Genconnect board at: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Ross ______________________________ ==== ROSS Mailing List ==== Also post your Ross queries on the Ross Genconnect board at: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Ross