I remember finding more than one Sarah Ann Rose when I first started looking for her family. The middle name Ann is very popular, and goes with Sarah quite nicely :) But, I have also found that many families which were related, named their children after each other. It makes it so confusing when trying to sort it all out. My Roses and Biggs were living in or near Bonham, in Fannin County, Texas, which is in the northern part of the state. But, that wouldn't totally eliminate a connection to your family either. It is possible that my Sarah Ann Rose was born in Franklin County, Ohio. (kind of strange, since she died in Franklin County, Kansas) It is also thought, but not known for sure, that her father, John Rose, had a brother, Philip Rose, of Franklin County, Ohio. There is also some speculation that this branch of Roses is related to Pleasant Rose. Pleasant was b: between 1810- 1820, married 1833, Greene Co, IL. He married Nancy Witty. He died, probably Cass Co, ILL. Another possible relation is Alexander Rose. He died abt 1849, Cass Co, ILL. I'm sorry, but I don't know any more about this family, other than Sarah Ann's descendants, which is my direct line. I wish I could be of more help. But, hopefully this has helped someone.... :) Debbie ----Original Message Follows---- From: Poohbear & Tigger <lizkevin@gci.net> To: debbie motsinger <dmotsinger@hotmail.com> Subject: Re: [ROSE] Obits & Illinois Roses Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 17:13:19 -0800 Wow! This is to weird! I have a Sarah Ann Rose born close to this date and her father is also named John Rose and some of the sibilings name are also similar or the same, Mine also were in Texas at least for some period Lavaca County mostly !This family looks like where mostly in Guernsey,Co,Ohio. I believe there is a great possiblity of some kind of connection here, would love to hear from you and compare, my grgrgrandmother was Mary Elizabeth Rose b.1883 her father was William Rose whom married Ada Smith. Cant wait to hear from you! God Bless Lizzy debbie motsinger wrote: > The obits, whether new or old, are of interest to some people. Genealogy is > the study of family origins, but most people include present day relatives > also. My problem is, I don't have any information on my "present-day" ROSE > relatives, so I wouldn't know one if I saw one. > > Since I haven't posted to this board for a while, I will put out a refresher > of which line I am looking for: > > Sarah Ann Rose, b: 1829, d: 1871, Franklin Co, KS. (2nd gr-grandmother) > Sarah married Josiah Biggs III, in Green County, IL, 1851. Sarah Ann and > Josiah moved to Fannin County, TX to live near her brother, James Monroe > Rose, and his wife and family. While living in Texas, her first three sons > were born: William F Biggs, b: abt 1853, and James Allen and John Albert > Biggs, b: May 29, 1855. In October, 1860 the BIGGS family moved to Kansas, > eventually settling in Franklin County. More children were born to their > family while living in Kansas, and Sarah died shortly after giving birth to > her last baby, a little boy, Charles L, who also died about a month after > his mother. > > Sarah Ann Rose's father was John Rose, born abt 1785 > Her siblings were: > Cynthia Rose, b: abt 1820, Ohio; married William Hodges > Nancy Rose, b: abt 1821, Ohio > James Monroe Rose, b: abt 1823, m: Eliza Ann Laken > John Rose, b: ILL, d: July, 1859, age 33- > Mary J Rose, b: abt 1832, ILL, m: Tyre Martin; > Isabel C Rose, b: abt 1836, ILL, m: unknown Furnham > > Other possible siblings,--- > Isaiah M Rose - (m: Sarah Friend) > Dorothy Rose - (m: Israel Phillips) > *** > > James Monroe Rose , oldest brother of Sarah Rose(Biggs) was living in Sonoma > County, CA by 1870. He is listed in the 1870 census with his wife, Eliza J, > age 44; and children John, age 18, Matthew, age 14, Lewis, age 12, Martha, > age 8; and James, age 6. I do not know if James Rose stayed in California, > and do not know any further information on him, or his family. I do know > that Josiah Biggs III went to California after the death of his wife, Sarah > Rose-Biggs, and lived there for about 2 years. I'm assuming this was to be > near his brother-in-law, James Rose. > > Cynthia Rose (Hodges) was apparently widowed by 1850, as she is living with > her father, John Rose. She has two children, Sarah Hodges, age 7, and > Elizabeth Hodges, age 4. (1850 Green County, IL census) > > In the 1860 census of Green County, IL, Cynthia Hodges is not listed in the > household, but her two children are still there, - Sarah J, age 17, and > Elizabeth, age 14. (I'm assuming Cynthia may have been deceased) Little > sister Nancy Rose, age 37, is still living at home, and their father, John > Rose, age 74 is still living. He told the census taker he was born in PA. > > John Rose, brother of Sarah Ann Rose, died in 1859, at age 33. He was not > married. > > Well, enough on my ROSE line for now. If anyone has a minute possibility of > relating to this family, I would be happy to hear from you. > > Hope to hear from someone soon......... > Debbie > > ----Original Message Follows---- > From: "Ron Hargis" <hargisfamily@hotmail.com> > To: ROSE-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ROSE] Obits? > Date: Sun, 15 Jul 2001 14:51:20 -0400 > > Hi.. maybe Im not understanding all the postings that I get from this ROSE > listing. Are all the obituaries "recent ones"? I thought this was a > genealogy listing which to me means historical based info? > Thanks for clearing this up for me. > Nancy > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ==== ROSE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <drose@en.com> > My Home Page: www.en.com/users/drose/ > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com > > ==== ROSE Mailing List ==== > To contact the List Administrator: Dick Rose <drose@en.com> > My Home Page: www.en.com/users/drose/ > See the Archived Messages at: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. 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