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    1. [ROSE] Re: William Willis Rose and Sarah Rose and Louisa Rose all of England around 1831
    2. Bret Busby
    3. On Tue, 13 Mar 2018, Colin wrote: > Date: Tue, 13 Mar 2018 05:49:38 > From: Colin <larter22@bigpond.com> > Reply-To: rose@rootsweb.com > To: rose@rootsweb.com > Subject: [ROSE] Re: William Willis Rose and Sarah Rose and Louisa Rose all of > England around 1831 > > Brett, I have an unrelated line of Busby in my very large genealogy tree. > > The couple at the top are Thomas Busby and Mary Ann Grimley married 8/7/1855 > St Marks Warwick, Warwickshire, England. Their son Thomas and wife Jane > Lacey married 31/12/1881 also at St Marks came to Queensland and had 11 > children leaving numerous decendants that resided in Queensland. > > Would they be connected? > > I notice you follow the surname of Rose, I also have lots of Rose surnames > in Queensland that I may be of assistance to you also. There is a Sarah Rose > and John Giles and 2 Louise Rose Queensland born. > Regards > Colin > > Hello. > > My paternal great-great-grandfather is Michael Horton Busby. > > He married Louisa Rose, and they had a number of children, before migrating > to New Zealand, where they both eventually died and were buried. > > Some of their children migrated to Australia, and have descendants in > Australia. > > I am from the part of the family that migrated to New Zealand, and I > migrated to Australia. > > I have, after decades of research that stopped in the Busby line, at the > information after the wedding of Michael Horton Busby and Louisa Rose, found > a copy of the wedding record of Michael Horton Busby, via ancestry.com. > > The wedding was a wedding by Banns, at St Mary's in Islington, London, > England, on 16 July 1831. > > The witnesses at the wedding, from what I can make out of the writing, are > William Willis Rose and Sarah Rose. > > At familysearch.org, a Louisa Rose is ahown as being christened at St Lukes > in Finsbury, London, England (which church features in christenings of the > children of Michael and Sarah), on 20 January 1808, having been born 23 > December 1807 to William and Sarah Rose. > > Does anyone have any of these people in their family tree, and any > information about the people? > > Thank you in anticipation. > > -- > Bret Busby > Armadale > West Australia > .............. > > "So once you do know what the question actually is, > you'll know what the answer means." > - Deep Thought, > Chapter 28 of Book 1 of > "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: > A Trilogy In Four Parts", > written by Douglas Adams, > published by Pan Books, 1992 > .................................................... > > Hello, Colin. Thank you for your response. Are any of the Busby line in Queensland, still alive? If so, they may be interested in the web page at www.busbygenealogy.net , if they are interested in genealogy. You may also be interested in visiting the web page, as it describes a few resources that apply to genealogists who are not limited by interests in Busby genealogy. Many years ago, I occasionally got telephone calls from people in Queensland, who thought I was a Busby person from Queensland, who had the same initials as me. Regarding the names Sarah and Louisa, if you go to the web page at http://busby.net/bret/genealogy/MichaeleHortonBusby_det_descendant_report-3g3n-20160318-01.html (hopefully, that URL fits on a single line, to facilitate copying and pasting) you will see the names Sarah and Louisa, flow down through the descendants of the Louisa Rose who is my great-great-grandmother, in both the Australian and New Zealand lines of descendants. Regarding the lineages, and, the question about possible links, whilst, from the limited information that I have, about my Busby ancestry, no link is shown (as yet) to your Warwickshire Busby line, have you considered genealogical DNA analysis? I have received an email newsletter from familytreedna.com, today, advising that they have a "St Patrick's Day Sale" until 2359 18 March PST (the email messages (2) about the sale, do not include the UTC difference for the PST timezone, which I assume to be somewhere around 19 hours behid Westerne Australia, so about 21 hours begind Queensland), with the sale apparently including a 20USD discount for the Family Finder Test, which, I believe, can show probable links going back five generations (I willingly accept correction on that point, if I am wrong in my understanding). That test could perhaps help you find probable links, if you are interested in undergoing the test. And, if the descendants of the Warwickshire Busby line, are interested, they could perhaps undergo Y-DNA testing, as mentioned on the www.busbygenealogy.net web page. With genealogical DNA testing, I thing the "the more, the merrier" definitely applies. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ....................................................

    03/13/2018 02:36:24
    1. [ROSE] Re: William Willis Rose and Sarah Rose and Louisa Rose all of England around 1831
    2. Colin
    3. Brett, I have an unrelated line of Busby in my very large genealogy tree. The couple at the top are Thomas Busby and Mary Ann Grimley married 8/7/1855 St Marks Warwick, Warwickshire, England. Their son Thomas and wife Jane Lacey married 31/12/1881 also at St Marks came to Queensland and had 11 children leaving numerous decendants that resided in Queensland. Would they be connected? I notice you follow the surname of Rose, I also have lots of Rose surnames in Queensland that I may be of assistance to you also. There is a Sarah Rose and John Giles and 2 Louise Rose Queensland born. Regards Colin Hello. My paternal great-great-grandfather is Michael Horton Busby. He married Louisa Rose, and they had a number of children, before migrating to New Zealand, where they both eventually died and were buried. Some of their children migrated to Australia, and have descendants in Australia. I am from the part of the family that migrated to New Zealand, and I migrated to Australia. I have, after decades of research that stopped in the Busby line, at the information after the wedding of Michael Horton Busby and Louisa Rose, found a copy of the wedding record of Michael Horton Busby, via ancestry.com. The wedding was a wedding by Banns, at St Mary's in Islington, London, England, on 16 July 1831. The witnesses at the wedding, from what I can make out of the writing, are William Willis Rose and Sarah Rose. At familysearch.org, a Louisa Rose is ahown as being christened at St Lukes in Finsbury, London, England (which church features in christenings of the children of Michael and Sarah), on 20 January 1808, having been born 23 December 1807 to William and Sarah Rose. Does anyone have any of these people in their family tree, and any information about the people? Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ....................................................

    03/12/2018 03:49:38
    1. [ROSE] William Willis Rose and Sarah Rose and Louisa Rose all of England around 1831
    2. Bret Busby
    3. Hello. My paternal great-great-grandfather is Michael Horton Busby. He married Louisa Rose, and they had a number of children, before migrating to New Zealand, where they both eventually died and were buried. Some of their children migrated to Australia, and have descendants in Australia. I am from the part of the family that migrated to New Zealand, and I migrated to Australia. I have, after decades of research that stopped in the Busby line, at the information after the wedding of Michael Horton Busby and Louisa Rose, found a copy of the wedding record of Michael Horton Busby, via ancestry.com. The wedding was a wedding by Banns, at St Mary's in Islington, London, England, on 16 July 1831. The witnesses at the wedding, from what I can make out of the writing, are William Willis Rose and Sarah Rose. At familysearch.org, a Louisa Rose is ahown as being christened at St Lukes in Finsbury, London, England (which church features in christenings of the children of Michael and Sarah), on 20 January 1808, having been born 23 December 1807 to William and Sarah Rose. Does anyone have any of these people in their family tree, and any information about the people? Thank you in anticipation. -- Bret Busby Armadale West Australia .............. "So once you do know what the question actually is, you'll know what the answer means." - Deep Thought, Chapter 28 of Book 1 of "The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy: A Trilogy In Four Parts", written by Douglas Adams, published by Pan Books, 1992 ....................................................

    03/12/2018 11:39:42
    1. Re: [ROSE] Looking to place a displaced Maria ROSE
    2. Kelley Badgerow
    3. Not to sure she would be from the North Carolina line, John Badgero most likely met her during the Rev. War, he served the Albany New York Militia.  I was thinking about Poughkeepsie, NY marriage as more of a possible minister that would perform it to whomever since neither the ROSE/ROOSA or BADGERO family are members of the church.  The Gartie ROSE marriage to BOGERDUS is also off since that family is typically from the Ulster County area too. A cousin alerted me a possible pre-marriage pregnancy between John and Maria, or she might have been in term, so might a reason why they did not use his or her church to get married.  John's brother, David, is apart of the Rhinebeck Church at this time. I noted a Henry ROSA as apart of the Land Bounty Albany Militia, though David Badgero (Bashgereu) and Henry Rosa were not in the same regiment.  Then also a ROOSA handling the prisoners at Ulster Co. This would be about 1775-1777, I can not give it a precise date off the top of my head. Kelley On Saturday, August 26, 2017, 5:46:40 PM CDT, James Andrews <ncjim@suddenlink.net> wrote: My Rose family is from Hyde Co NC./ Rose -----Original Message----- From: ROSE [mailto:rose-bounces+ncjim=suddenlink.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kelley Badgerow Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 11:18 AM To: rose@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROSE] Looking to place a displaced Maria ROSE With several ROSE/ROOSA/ROSA families in the general location of New York state by 1780 and before this I concluded I will need some additional help to put her with the correct family. What I know is not much Maria ROSE married John Bacherow (Badgero) in 1785 at Poughkeepsie Flatts Reformed Church.  I also find a Gartie ROSE marrying Nicolas Bogurdas at the same church in 1783 noted to be the widow of Cornelius Cerpalt (Crispell). So I am sure she is Geertje ROOSA who belongs with the Ulster Co., New York ROOSA family in some manner.  I figured this out for Geertje via Cornelius' will witnesses yet Maria would most like be the next generation down, perhaps born between 1755 to 1768 since she and John have 6 to 8 children from 1785 to 1810 (census data). We are unable to locate John and Maria children baptisms in Albany, Columbia, Dutchess, or Ulster Co. church records. Yet we find John Bajo living in Cambridge, Albany (soon to be Rensselaer Co.), New York in 1790 with already 3 children. I would assume the children are born in an area were no church (building wise) is yet established north of Albany city. Or, of course, a state close by like Vermont.  I mention this due to baptism records might help via witnesses yet we can not find any to use that as an aid in research. John, like most men, fought in the Rev. War so Maria could be associated with out of New York ROSE family, meeting Maria's family through this. Past 1790 we can place John over in 1794 at RensselaerVille, which is near the towns of Bernie and Bristol (Broome), with a land lease with a Christian Brandt.  After this he moves to Sherburne (1800), then Scipio (1810), then Canada for a bit (1816-1817, not found on USA census in 1820), then Sodus (1830). He remarries in 1826, so suspect Maria passed on in Canada or Sodus, New York. Kelley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/26/2017 07:16:02
    1. Re: [ROSE] Looking to place a displaced Maria ROSE
    2. James Andrews
    3. My Rose family is from Hyde Co NC./ Rose -----Original Message----- From: ROSE [mailto:rose-bounces+ncjim=suddenlink.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Kelley Badgerow Sent: Saturday, August 26, 2017 11:18 AM To: rose@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROSE] Looking to place a displaced Maria ROSE With several ROSE/ROOSA/ROSA families in the general location of New York state by 1780 and before this I concluded I will need some additional help to put her with the correct family. What I know is not much Maria ROSE married John Bacherow (Badgero) in 1785 at Poughkeepsie Flatts Reformed Church. I also find a Gartie ROSE marrying Nicolas Bogurdas at the same church in 1783 noted to be the widow of Cornelius Cerpalt (Crispell). So I am sure she is Geertje ROOSA who belongs with the Ulster Co., New York ROOSA family in some manner. I figured this out for Geertje via Cornelius' will witnesses yet Maria would most like be the next generation down, perhaps born between 1755 to 1768 since she and John have 6 to 8 children from 1785 to 1810 (census data). We are unable to locate John and Maria children baptisms in Albany, Columbia, Dutchess, or Ulster Co. church records. Yet we find John Bajo living in Cambridge, Albany (soon to be Rensselaer Co.), New York in 1790 with already 3 children. I would assume the children are born in an area were no church (building wise) is yet established north of Albany city. Or, of course, a state close by like Vermont. I mention this due to baptism records might help via witnesses yet we can not find any to use that as an aid in research. John, like most men, fought in the Rev. War so Maria could be associated with out of New York ROSE family, meeting Maria's family through this. Past 1790 we can place John over in 1794 at RensselaerVille, which is near the towns of Bernie and Bristol (Broome), with a land lease with a Christian Brandt. After this he moves to Sherburne (1800), then Scipio (1810), then Canada for a bit (1816-1817, not found on USA census in 1820), then Sodus (1830). He remarries in 1826, so suspect Maria passed on in Canada or Sodus, New York. Kelley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/26/2017 12:44:55
    1. [ROSE] Looking to place a displaced Maria ROSE
    2. Kelley Badgerow
    3. With several ROSE/ROOSA/ROSA families in the general location of New York state by 1780 and before this I concluded I will need some additional help to put her with the correct family. What I know is not much Maria ROSE married John Bacherow (Badgero) in 1785 at Poughkeepsie Flatts Reformed Church.  I also find a Gartie ROSE marrying Nicolas Bogurdas at the same church in 1783 noted to be the widow of Cornelius Cerpalt (Crispell). So I am sure she is Geertje ROOSA who belongs with the Ulster Co., New York ROOSA family in some manner.  I figured this out for Geertje via Cornelius' will witnesses yet Maria would most like be the next generation down, perhaps born between 1755 to 1768 since she and John have 6 to 8 children from 1785 to 1810 (census data). We are unable to locate John and Maria children baptisms in Albany, Columbia, Dutchess, or Ulster Co. church records. Yet we find John Bajo living in Cambridge, Albany (soon to be Rensselaer Co.), New York in 1790 with already 3 children. I would assume the children are born in an area were no church (building wise) is yet established north of Albany city. Or, of course, a state close by like Vermont.  I mention this due to baptism records might help via witnesses yet we can not find any to use that as an aid in research.  John, like most men, fought in the Rev. War so Maria could be associated with out of New York ROSE family, meeting Maria's family through this. Past 1790 we can place John over in 1794 at RensselaerVille, which is near the towns of Bernie and Bristol (Broome), with a land lease with a Christian Brandt.  After this he moves to Sherburne (1800), then Scipio (1810), then Canada for a bit (1816-1817, not found on USA census in 1820), then Sodus (1830). He remarries in 1826, so suspect Maria passed on in Canada or Sodus, New York. Kelley

    08/26/2017 09:18:23
    1. Re: [ROSE] NEWTON - BECK - ROSE Family Photograph
    2. James Andrews
    3. Thanks for your email. I am unable to connect with Savannah or Orlena in my Rose Family Tree. Rose C. Andrew -----Original Message----- From: ROSE [mailto:rose-bounces+ncjim=suddenlink.net@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Shelley Cardiel Sent: Thursday, March 23, 2017 11:54 AM To: rose@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROSE] NEWTON - BECK - ROSE Family Photograph I've "rescued" an old funeral card including a photograph of Orleana NEWTON who was born 5r May 1857 and died 17 Feb 1924. Based on limited information I was able to locate the following information regarding Orleana and her family: E. Orlena or Orlina E. BECK was b. 5 May 1857 in Marshall, TN to parents Marcella or Marcellus Q. BECK (1836-1870) and Mary or Sarah Jane PATTERSON (1838-1906). Orlena was one of 7 children born to this couple including, Orlina; William Henry James or James W.; Mary "Mollie" Jane; Shilo or Sheal or Shered W.; and Savannah E. BECK, all born between 1857 and 1869. After her Father's death in 1870 her Mother remarried and had 9 more children including, Walter; Don; Pearl; Florence or Florance; Ida; Caroline; Jeff D.; John B.; and Lee MCCORMACK. Orlina married William "Willis" Henry NEWTON (1854-1940or41) and together they had 12 children including, William; Walter Lancaster; Ernest D. or Richard; Orpha; Allie Dee or Dean; Eunice Blanche; Okla; Verna or Vernon; Lola May; Joanie; Eulalia or Eulaier; and Logan NEWTON, all born between 1876 and 1898. Orlena's sister Mollie BECK married into the DOW Family and then later into the HOPPER Family and her sister Savannah married into the ROSE Family. Her daughter Allie married into the BRITTON Family, and daughter Lola married into the ROBERTS Family. As the funeral card indicates, Orlena died 17 Feb 1924 in Giles County, TN. Census records provide the following details: 1880 census of Giles Co., TN: Henry NEWTON, age 24, a Farmer, born TN, parents born TN Orleana NEWTON, wife, age 24, Keeping House, born TN, parents born TN William NEWTON, son, age 4, born TN Walter NEWTON, son, age 3, born TN Richard NEWTON, son, age 1, born TN + 1 Servant 1900 census of Giles Co., TN: Willis NEWTON, age 45, born Jul 1954, married 27 years, born TN, parents born TN, a Farmer Orlena NEWTON, wife, age 44, born May 1856, married 27 years, 13 children/9 living, born TN, parents born TN Walter L. NEWTON, son, age 23, born Apr 1977, born TN, a Farm Laborer Ernst R. NEWTON, son, age 21, born Apr 1879, born TN, a Farm Laborer Orpha NEWTON, dau, age 15, born May 1885, born TN, at School Allie D. NEWTON, son, age 13, born Sept 1886, born TN, a Farm Laborer Eunice B. NEWTON, dau, age 10, born Nov 1889, born TN, at School Vernie NEWTON, dau, age 8, born Jan 1891, born TN, at School Lola M. NEWTON, dau, age 6, born Oct 1893, born TN, at School Eulaier NEWTON, dau, age 4, born Jun 1895, born TN 1910 census of Giles Co., TN: W. H. NEWTON, age 55, married 37 years, born TN, parents born TN, a Farmer Orleanie NEWTON, wife, age 53, married 37 years, 13 children/9 living, born TN, parents born TN Orphie NEWTON, dau, age 25, born TN Lola NEWTON, dau, age 16, born TN Eulalia NEWTON, dau, age 14, born TN 1920 census of Giles Co., TN: William F. NEWTON, age 68, born AL, parents born SC, a Farmer Orleana NEWTON, wife, age 55, born TN, parents born TN Maynard NEWTON, son, age 17, born TN, a Farm Laborer I am hoping to return the funeral card to family and would appreciate you contacting me if you are a member of this family or you know someone who might be. Thanks, Shelley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    03/25/2017 03:36:20
    1. [ROSE] NEWTON - BECK - ROSE Family Photograph
    2. Shelley Cardiel
    3. I've "rescued" an old funeral card including a photograph of Orleana NEWTON who was born 5 May 1857 and died 17 Feb 1924. Based on limited information I was able to locate the following information regarding Orleana and her family: E. Orlena or Orlina E. BECK was b. 5 May 1857 in Marshall, TN to parents Marcella or Marcellus Q. BECK (1836-1870) and Mary or Sarah Jane PATTERSON (1838-1906). Orlena was one of 7 children born to this couple including, Orlina; William Henry James or James W.; Mary "Mollie" Jane; Shilo or Sheal or Shered W.; and Savannah E. BECK, all born between 1857 and 1869. After her Father's death in 1870 her Mother remarried and had 9 more children including, Walter; Don; Pearl; Florence or Florance; Ida; Caroline; Jeff D.; John B.; and Lee MCCORMACK. Orlina married William "Willis" Henry NEWTON (1854-1940or41) and together they had 12 children including, William; Walter Lancaster; Ernest D. or Richard; Orpha; Allie Dee or Dean; Eunice Blanche; Okla; Verna or Vernon; Lola May; Joanie; Eulalia or Eulaier; and Logan NEWTON, all born between 1876 and 1898. Orlena's sister Mollie BECK married into the DOW Family and then later into the HOPPER Family and her sister Savannah married into the ROSE Family. Her daughter Allie married into the BRITTON Family, and daughter Lola married into the ROBERTS Family. As the funeral card indicates, Orlena died 17 Feb 1924 in Giles County, TN. Census records provide the following details: 1880 census of Giles Co., TN: Henry NEWTON, age 24, a Farmer, born TN, parents born TN Orleana NEWTON, wife, age 24, Keeping House, born TN, parents born TN William NEWTON, son, age 4, born TN Walter NEWTON, son, age 3, born TN Richard NEWTON, son, age 1, born TN + 1 Servant 1900 census of Giles Co., TN: Willis NEWTON, age 45, born Jul 1954, married 27 years, born TN, parents born TN, a Farmer Orlena NEWTON, wife, age 44, born May 1856, married 27 years, 13 children/9 living, born TN, parents born TN Walter L. NEWTON, son, age 23, born Apr 1977, born TN, a Farm Laborer Ernst R. NEWTON, son, age 21, born Apr 1879, born TN, a Farm Laborer Orpha NEWTON, dau, age 15, born May 1885, born TN, at School Allie D. NEWTON, son, age 13, born Sept 1886, born TN, a Farm Laborer Eunice B. NEWTON, dau, age 10, born Nov 1889, born TN, at School Vernie NEWTON, dau, age 8, born Jan 1891, born TN, at School Lola M. NEWTON, dau, age 6, born Oct 1893, born TN, at School Eulaier NEWTON, dau, age 4, born Jun 1895, born TN 1910 census of Giles Co., TN: W. H. NEWTON, age 55, married 37 years, born TN, parents born TN, a Farmer Orleanie NEWTON, wife, age 53, married 37 years, 13 children/9 living, born TN, parents born TN Orphie NEWTON, dau, age 25, born TN Lola NEWTON, dau, age 16, born TN Eulalia NEWTON, dau, age 14, born TN 1920 census of Giles Co., TN: William F. NEWTON, age 68, born AL, parents born SC, a Farmer Orleana NEWTON, wife, age 55, born TN, parents born TN Maynard NEWTON, son, age 17, born TN, a Farm Laborer I am hoping to return the funeral card to family and would appreciate you contacting me if you are a member of this family or you know someone who might be. Thanks, Shelley

    03/23/2017 02:53:49
    1. Re: [ROSE] ROSE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
    2. Larter via
    3. Tonja thanks for replying Have you done much genealogy searching with the Rose name and which Rose line do you come from? Also have you any connection to the Zingelmann/Rose line? Colin On 01-May-15 12:52 PM, tonja boyd via wrote: > Hi Colin, > > I am connected to the Rose surname in Queensland. I was born a Rose in Brisbane :) > > Tonja >> On 21 Apr 2015, at 3:00 pm, rose-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> >> >> >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. Rose (Larter) >> 2. Re: Rose (Bev Thomas) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:55:05 +1000 >> From: Larter <larter22@bigpond.com> >> Subject: [ROSE] Rose >> To: Roots Webb Rose <ROSE@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP9848E6DE383CAA20FE6786D0E00@phx.gbl> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" >> >> Would there be anyone on the list connected to surname of Rose in >> Queensland Australia >> >> Regards Colin >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> Message: 2 >> Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 07:50:48 -0400 >> From: Bev Thomas <bevthomasita@aol.com> >> Subject: Re: [ROSE] Rose >> To: larter22@bigpond.com, rose@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <14cd6aa9f0d-473e-443ec@webprd-m75.mail.aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 >> >> >> Dear Colin, >> >> >> I do know that other family members on another branch of my tree left Jamaica for Australia, so it is possible >> >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> Bev >> >> >> Revd Bev Thomas >> >> Amani Consultancy >> Building bridges where faith and justice meet >> >> Mobile: +44 7850 214913 >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Larter via <rose@rootsweb.com> >> To: Roots Webb Rose <ROSE@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:03 >> Subject: [ROSE] Rose >> >> >> Would there be anyone on the list connected to surname of Rose in >> Queensland >> Australia >> >> Regards Colin >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe >> from the list, please send an email to ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word >> 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the ROSE list administrator, send an email to >> ROSE-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the ROSE mailing list, send an email to ROSE@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSE-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of ROSE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1 >> *********************************** > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    05/01/2015 07:45:08
    1. Re: [ROSE] ROSE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1
    2. tonja boyd via
    3. Hi Colin, I am connected to the Rose surname in Queensland. I was born a Rose in Brisbane :) Tonja > On 21 Apr 2015, at 3:00 pm, rose-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Rose (Larter) > 2. Re: Rose (Bev Thomas) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 20:55:05 +1000 > From: Larter <larter22@bigpond.com> > Subject: [ROSE] Rose > To: Roots Webb Rose <ROSE@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <BLU436-SMTP9848E6DE383CAA20FE6786D0E00@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Would there be anyone on the list connected to surname of Rose in > Queensland Australia > > Regards Colin > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 07:50:48 -0400 > From: Bev Thomas <bevthomasita@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [ROSE] Rose > To: larter22@bigpond.com, rose@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <14cd6aa9f0d-473e-443ec@webprd-m75.mail.aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 > > > Dear Colin, > > > I do know that other family members on another branch of my tree left Jamaica for Australia, so it is possible > > > Regards > > > > Bev > > > Revd Bev Thomas > > Amani Consultancy > Building bridges where faith and justice meet > > Mobile: +44 7850 214913 > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Larter via <rose@rootsweb.com> > To: Roots Webb Rose <ROSE@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:03 > Subject: [ROSE] Rose > > > Would there be anyone on the list connected to surname of Rose in > Queensland > Australia > > Regards Colin > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe > from the list, please send an email to ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ROSE list administrator, send an email to > ROSE-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ROSE mailing list, send an email to ROSE@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSE-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ROSE Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1 > ***********************************

    05/01/2015 04:52:17
    1. [ROSE] Rose
    2. Larter via
    3. Would there be anyone on the list connected to surname of Rose in Queensland Australia Regards Colin

    04/20/2015 02:55:05
    1. Re: [ROSE] Rose
    2. Bev Thomas via
    3. Dear Colin, I do know that other family members on another branch of my tree left Jamaica for Australia, so it is possible Regards Bev Revd Bev Thomas Amani Consultancy Building bridges where faith and justice meet Mobile: +44 7850 214913 -----Original Message----- From: Larter via <rose@rootsweb.com> To: Roots Webb Rose <ROSE@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, 20 Apr 2015 12:03 Subject: [ROSE] Rose Would there be anyone on the list connected to surname of Rose in Queensland Australia Regards Colin ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    04/20/2015 01:50:48
    1. [ROSE] William Cox Rose & Alice Beatrice nee Farmer
    2. Judith Ballantyne via
    3. Hello List, It's been a lot of years since I was on this list, but thought I'd run my names again. As I have had a change of email since then. My ROSE lot from Aylesbury Buckinghamshire, England 1870 - 1950's William Cox Rose, 1870-1935 married Alice Beatrice Farmer 1873-1944 In 1897, They had 4 children, William Eric, John Edmund, Alice Winifred & Anthony Leonard Rose. William died in WWW1, John & Alice unmarried, Anthony married June Shaw. The Rose line is a BIG one but I am really only interested in this above immediate family. I especially would like to know where they are buried. They died Aylesbury Vale. Does this town have a Cemetery. Or as the Rose line is big, I wonder if they have a family plot in a nearby cemetery? And if any newpapers are now available for these time frames and are searchable online Hoping to hear from anyone researching this particular line Many thanks Judy

    10/28/2014 04:25:31
    1. Re: [ROSE] Fred Rose
    2. Diana Gale Matthiesen via
    3. This ROSE grandson of Randolph V. ROSE (1903) would be a patrilineal descendant of Frederick (1771), as is Knowles/Knols Fred ROSE (1898). He would be a valid subject for Y-DNA testing this ROSE family as would any male ROSE descended from their progenitor, William ROSE (1622-1671). It's the relative genetic stability of the Y-chromosome that makes this testing so effective. In fact... I just did what I should have done earlier. I checked the results of the ROSE Y-DNA Surname Project at FTDNA: https://www.familytreedna.com/public/rose,rose/default.aspx?section=yresults It turns out many members of this family have been tested. They are Group A1 in the table, which means they're definitely not related to "my" ROSEs who are Group L. Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Ott [mailto:dott@centurytel.net] > Sent: Thursday, August 21, 2014 4:50 PM > To: Diana Gale Matthiesen; rose@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ROSE] Fred Rose > > Diana > I am not knowledgeable of any of the family of Fred Rose. > How I became acquainted with the name is that on 16 Aug 2014 Tim > Hadler, a singer from Branson Missouri, came to our theater and gave > his performance of "A Tribute to Hank Williams". During the show he > gave a complete history of King Hiram " Hank " Williams (Father was a > Mason). He attributed Fred Rose as being the person who discovered > Hank Williams and launched his career. Fred Rose and Roy Acuff had a > Publishing Company in Nashville and hired aspiring song writers and > performers. Mr Hadler was very complimentary of Fred Rose, stating > that he not only launched the career of Hank Williams, but Roy > Orbison, Don Gibson, Marty Robins, The Everly Brothers, The Louvin > Brothers and many others. Since my wife was a Rose I thought it would > be interesting to see if I could tie this important figure to her > family. With your help I was able to do that. > If you are in Branson I would say that the music and history > part of the "Tribute to Hank Williams" is really good. Tim Hadler has > a very good voice. The best part of the show takes about one and one > half hours. Then Mr. Hadler adds quite a bit of time talking about > his personal life, his family, (Lets his Kids sing) and almost > preaches toward the end. The last hour was OK but not really related > to the topic. > Sorry I will not be able to help with your DNA for a cousin > of Fred Rose. There are very few of the Rose Family left here in the > Ozarks. My Wife's ancestry was Frederick Rose Sr. 1771, William C. > Rose 1795, Isaac Paul Rose 1825, Isaac Paul " Doc" Rose Jr. 1865, > Randolph V. Rose 1903. (I know of one grandson of Randolph V. Rose). > Thanks for your help > Don > > > At 04:03 AM 8/21/2014, you wrote: > >Glad to be of help, Don. And thank you for posing this question, because... > > > >One of the Richard ROSEs in Fred's patrilineal line married a HORTON, which > >immediately caught my eye because there is a genetic NPE > >(non-paternity event): > >http://dgmweb.net/DNA/General/NPE_Resolutions.html > > > >between a HORTON family and my ROSE family. That is, there is a > >line of HORTONs > >that is a genetic match to the Group L ROSEs of the FTDNA Rose Y-DNA Surname > >Project (scroll to the far right to see lineages): > >http://dgmweb.net/DNA/Rose/Rose-results-R1b-L.html > > > >which suggests to me that my ROSEs may be related to Fred's > >ROSEs. Do you know > >any living male ROSEs who are cousins to Fred who might be willing to be Y- > DNA > >tested to prove the connection? > > > >Diana > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: Don Ott [mailto:dott@centurytel.net] > > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:46 PM > > > To: Diana Gale Matthiesen; rose@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [ROSE] Fred Rose > > > > > > > > > Diana > > > Thank you very much for you contribution. With your help I > > > was able to link Fred Rose to my wife's line through Enos Rose born > > > ca 1806 VA. My wife was a direct descendant of Frederick Rose but I > > > just had never worked on his son Enos. Appreciate all your help and > > > all the help from everyone in the ROSE research group. > > > Don > > > > > > At 01:10 AM 8/18/2014, you wrote: > > > >Once I got back to Fred's grandfather, George W. ROSE: > > > >http://dgmweb.net/FGS/Ros/RoseGeorgeW-SarahEmery.html > > > > > > > >I hooked into lineages at WorldConnect and Ancestry Public Trees that > took > > > him > > > >back to his immigrant ancestor. Secondary sources seem to disagree > > > >whether the > > > >immigrant came from England or Scotland, but in any case, definitely not > > > >Germany. > > > > > > > >His immigrant settled in Virginia, and while I don't see an > > actual connection > > > >with my line, I see a definitely possibility. > > > > > > > >Diana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > > From: rose-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > > [mailto:rose-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > > > > > Of Marilyn Jenkins via > > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:43 PM > > > > > To: 'Don Ott'; rose@rootsweb.com > > > > > Subject: Re: [ROSE] Fred Rose > > > > > > > > > > There are several Roos families from Evansville, and > > Frederick is a common > > > > > name among them. They are German origin. Could he possibly have been > > > from > > > > > those families and changed his spelling to Rose. > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > > > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > >ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    08/21/2014 11:29:41
    1. Re: [ROSE] Fred Rose
    2. Don Ott via
    3. Diana I am not knowledgeable of any of the family of Fred Rose. How I became acquainted with the name is that on 16 Aug 2014 Tim Hadler, a singer from Branson Missouri, came to our theater and gave his performance of "A Tribute to Hank Williams". During the show he gave a complete history of King Hiram " Hank " Williams (Father was a Mason). He attributed Fred Rose as being the person who discovered Hank Williams and launched his career. Fred Rose and Roy Acuff had a Publishing Company in Nashville and hired aspiring song writers and performers. Mr Hadler was very complimentary of Fred Rose, stating that he not only launched the career of Hank Williams, but Roy Orbison, Don Gibson, Marty Robins, The Everly Brothers, The Louvin Brothers and many others. Since my wife was a Rose I thought it would be interesting to see if I could tie this important figure to her family. With your help I was able to do that. If you are in Branson I would say that the music and history part of the "Tribute to Hank Williams" is really good. Tim Hadler has a very good voice. The best part of the show takes about one and one half hours. Then Mr. Hadler adds quite a bit of time talking about his personal life, his family, (Lets his Kids sing) and almost preaches toward the end. The last hour was OK but not really related to the topic. Sorry I will not be able to help with your DNA for a cousin of Fred Rose. There are very few of the Rose Family left here in the Ozarks. My Wife's ancestry was Frederick Rose Sr. 1771, William C. Rose 1795, Isaac Paul Rose 1825, Isaac Paul " Doc" Rose Jr. 1865, Randolph V. Rose 1903. (I know of one grandson of Randolph V. Rose). Thanks for your help Don At 04:03 AM 8/21/2014, you wrote: >Glad to be of help, Don. And thank you for posing this question, because... > >One of the Richard ROSEs in Fred's patrilineal line married a HORTON, which >immediately caught my eye because there is a genetic NPE >(non-paternity event): >http://dgmweb.net/DNA/General/NPE_Resolutions.html > >between a HORTON family and my ROSE family. That is, there is a >line of HORTONs >that is a genetic match to the Group L ROSEs of the FTDNA Rose Y-DNA Surname >Project (scroll to the far right to see lineages): >http://dgmweb.net/DNA/Rose/Rose-results-R1b-L.html > >which suggests to me that my ROSEs may be related to Fred's >ROSEs. Do you know >any living male ROSEs who are cousins to Fred who might be willing to be Y-DNA >tested to prove the connection? > >Diana > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Don Ott [mailto:dott@centurytel.net] > > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:46 PM > > To: Diana Gale Matthiesen; rose@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ROSE] Fred Rose > > > > > > Diana > > Thank you very much for you contribution. With your help I > > was able to link Fred Rose to my wife's line through Enos Rose born > > ca 1806 VA. My wife was a direct descendant of Frederick Rose but I > > just had never worked on his son Enos. Appreciate all your help and > > all the help from everyone in the ROSE research group. > > Don > > > > At 01:10 AM 8/18/2014, you wrote: > > >Once I got back to Fred's grandfather, George W. ROSE: > > >http://dgmweb.net/FGS/Ros/RoseGeorgeW-SarahEmery.html > > > > > >I hooked into lineages at WorldConnect and Ancestry Public Trees that took > > him > > >back to his immigrant ancestor. Secondary sources seem to disagree > > >whether the > > >immigrant came from England or Scotland, but in any case, definitely not > > >Germany. > > > > > >His immigrant settled in Virginia, and while I don't see an > actual connection > > >with my line, I see a definitely possibility. > > > > > >Diana > > > > > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > > From: rose-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:rose-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > > > > Of Marilyn Jenkins via > > > > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:43 PM > > > > To: 'Don Ott'; rose@rootsweb.com > > > > Subject: Re: [ROSE] Fred Rose > > > > > > > > There are several Roos families from Evansville, and > Frederick is a common > > > > name among them. They are German origin. Could he possibly have been > > from > > > > those families and changed his spelling to Rose. > > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/21/2014 09:50:07
    1. Re: [ROSE] Fred Rose
    2. Diana Gale Matthiesen via
    3. Glad to be of help, Don. And thank you for posing this question, because... One of the Richard ROSEs in Fred's patrilineal line married a HORTON, which immediately caught my eye because there is a genetic NPE (non-paternity event): http://dgmweb.net/DNA/General/NPE_Resolutions.html between a HORTON family and my ROSE family. That is, there is a line of HORTONs that is a genetic match to the Group L ROSEs of the FTDNA Rose Y-DNA Surname Project (scroll to the far right to see lineages): http://dgmweb.net/DNA/Rose/Rose-results-R1b-L.html which suggests to me that my ROSEs may be related to Fred's ROSEs. Do you know any living male ROSEs who are cousins to Fred who might be willing to be Y-DNA tested to prove the connection? Diana > -----Original Message----- > From: Don Ott [mailto:dott@centurytel.net] > Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2014 5:46 PM > To: Diana Gale Matthiesen; rose@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ROSE] Fred Rose > > > Diana > Thank you very much for you contribution. With your help I > was able to link Fred Rose to my wife's line through Enos Rose born > ca 1806 VA. My wife was a direct descendant of Frederick Rose but I > just had never worked on his son Enos. Appreciate all your help and > all the help from everyone in the ROSE research group. > Don > > At 01:10 AM 8/18/2014, you wrote: > >Once I got back to Fred's grandfather, George W. ROSE: > >http://dgmweb.net/FGS/Ros/RoseGeorgeW-SarahEmery.html > > > >I hooked into lineages at WorldConnect and Ancestry Public Trees that took > him > >back to his immigrant ancestor. Secondary sources seem to disagree > >whether the > >immigrant came from England or Scotland, but in any case, definitely not > >Germany. > > > >His immigrant settled in Virginia, and while I don't see an actual connection > >with my line, I see a definitely possibility. > > > >Diana > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: rose-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:rose-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > > > Of Marilyn Jenkins via > > > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:43 PM > > > To: 'Don Ott'; rose@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [ROSE] Fred Rose > > > > > > There are several Roos families from Evansville, and Frederick is a common > > > name among them. They are German origin. Could he possibly have been > from > > > those families and changed his spelling to Rose. > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

    08/20/2014 11:03:50
    1. Re: [ROSE] Fred Rose
    2. Don Ott via
    3. Diana Thank you very much for you contribution. With your help I was able to link Fred Rose to my wife's line through Enos Rose born ca 1806 VA. My wife was a direct descendant of Frederick Rose but I just had never worked on his son Enos. Appreciate all your help and all the help from everyone in the ROSE research group. Don At 01:10 AM 8/18/2014, you wrote: >Once I got back to Fred's grandfather, George W. ROSE: >http://dgmweb.net/FGS/Ros/RoseGeorgeW-SarahEmery.html > >I hooked into lineages at WorldConnect and Ancestry Public Trees that took him >back to his immigrant ancestor. Secondary sources seem to disagree >whether the >immigrant came from England or Scotland, but in any case, definitely not >Germany. > >His immigrant settled in Virginia, and while I don't see an actual connection >with my line, I see a definitely possibility. > >Diana > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: rose-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:rose-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > > Of Marilyn Jenkins via > > Sent: Sunday, August 17, 2014 4:43 PM > > To: 'Don Ott'; rose@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [ROSE] Fred Rose > > > > There are several Roos families from Evansville, and Frederick is a common > > name among them. They are German origin. Could he possibly have been from > > those families and changed his spelling to Rose. > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/20/2014 10:46:21
    1. Re: [ROSE] ROSE Family
    2. Steve Rose via
    3. That sounds like our line who is your oldest known relative? I'm a descendant of Peter Rose 1720 & Mary Gardner 1727 of that area we have many of the lines traced down Steve > On Aug 17, 2014, at 5:29 PM, "Karen Rose via" <rose@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > Yes I have the same line. Then my ancestors migrated to West Virginia. > > Sent from my iPhone > >> On Aug 17, 2014, at 5:13 PM, "researcher7@comcast.net via" <rose@rootsweb.com> wrote: >> >> My ROSE family lived in Bucks Co., PA back in the 1700s and 1800s. >> >> Anyone have a connection to that area? >> >> Arleme >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSE-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    08/19/2014 08:03:07
    1. Re: [ROSE] Fred Rose
    2. Diana Gale Matthiesen via
    3. "definitely possibility"? I shouldn't post at 2 o'clock in the morning. I found Fred ROSE's birth record, and it turns out his first name, "Knols," is a misspelling of Knowles. He has an uncle named, Knowles ROSE, so that appears to be the source of the name. This changes the address of his web page to: http://dgmweb.net/FGS/Ros/RoseKnowlesFred-DellaBraico-HelenHolmes.html Diana > From: Diana Gale Matthiesen > Sent: Monday, August 18, 2014 2:10 AM > To: rose@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ROSE] Fred Rose > > Once I got back to Fred's grandfather, George W. ROSE: > http://dgmweb.net/FGS/Ros/RoseGeorgeW-SarahEmery.html > > I hooked into lineages at WorldConnect and Ancestry Public Trees that took him > back to his immigrant ancestor. Secondary sources seem to disagree whether > the > immigrant came from England or Scotland, but in any case, definitely not > Germany. > > His immigrant settled in Virginia, and while I don't see an actual connection > with my line, I see a definitely possibility. > > Diana

    08/18/2014 08:43:42
    1. Re: [ROSE] William Rose 1790-1867
    2. I'm working an a connection between Joseph(b.1765) and William(b.abt 1786) Rose; think they were brothers. Joseph had ties to Alleghany County and Montgomery County Virginia with descendants still living in each county. William was in Halifax County North Carolina. Members of Williams family ended up in Georgia, Mississippi and Louisianna. Alan Clark ____________________________________________________________ The End of the &#34;Made-In-China&#34; Era The impossible &#40;but real&#41; technology that could make you impossibly rich. http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/53f1e8a233b2268a20a07st04vuc

    08/18/2014 05:49:43