Hi, Charlie, It sounds like an interesting project, and if you get my book, I hope it helps. My book though is not just genealogical, though that is part of it. It's also a social history that tries to learn why things happened as they did. It considers what was happening in the larger society economically and politically to produce the events that happened. Mary Lee -----Original Message----- From: brown551967 <brown551967@bellsouth.net> To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 8:08 pm Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story Mary Lee: ounds like I really need to get your book. A cousin and I inherited the ask of finishing a book by my uncle about the decendants of Pat Conway, who eft Sligo in 1839 for the New World, married the upstairs maid of his mployer in Cleveland, and fathered ten children, all of whom lived to dulthood. Charlie Brown ---- Original Message ----- rom: <maryldunn@aol.com> o: <roscommon@rootsweb.com> ent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:11 PM ubject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story Thanks very much, Loree. I really loved working on it and putting "a face" on some of these people. As it turns out, there are some quite interesting stories in the U.S. part of their lives as well! While much of the story is focused on Rutland, VT, the immigrants moved around too. Mary Lee -----Original Message----- From: Loree <Loree@dc.rr.com> To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 9:58 am Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story Mary - that is great news on your book. CONGRATULATIONS! Loree Muldowney ----- Original Message ----- From: maryldunn@aol.com To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:06 AM Subject: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story To anyone interested in the Ballykilcline story, My book about the Ballykilcline rent strike (1835-1848) and the fates and ortunes of the evicted strikers in the United States (up to 1870) will be ublished by the University of Massachusetts Press in July. Its title is, allykilcline Rising / From Famine Ireland to Immigrant America. It is listed ow on Amazon but you can read a fuller description of it here: http://www.umass.edu/umpress/spr_08/dunn.htm Since some of you helped in various ways, I thought you might like to know hat it finally is making it to bookshelves. The story draws on history, enealogy, and social sciences to produce the picture that it presents of the trikers’ lives on both sides of the Atlantic. It also draws on the knowledge of embers of the Ballykilcline Society, and other research communities, who have enerously shared what they know so we all can learn more. Many thanks to all who contribute to this list. And, of course, the search for he rest of the story continues. Mary Lee Dunn maryldunn@aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1348 - Release Date: 3/28/2008 0:58 AM ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- o virus found in this incoming message. hecked by AVG Free Edition. ersion: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1347 - Release Date: 3/27/2008 :15 PM ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message
That's why I'd like it. We know what happened to the Conway clan (or our piece of it) after1850 when Pat first appears in the US Census, but what we'd like to get a better handle on is a feel for the conditions in Ireland (outside of Dublin) during the pre-Famine and Famine days. Incidentially, the reason I follow the postings on Roscommon is that Jane Callahan, the upstairs maid, was from Roscommon, as were the two sisters and one brother who followed her to the US. Charlie ----- Original Message ----- From: <maryldunn@aol.com> To: <roscommon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:22 PM Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story > > Hi, Charlie, > > > > It sounds like an interesting project, and if you get my book, I hope it > helps. My book though is not just genealogical, though that is part of it. > It's also a social history that tries to learn why things happened as they > did. It considers what was happening in the larger society economically > and politically to produce the events that happened. > > > > Mary Lee > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brown551967 <brown551967@bellsouth.net> > To: roscommon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 8:08 pm > Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story > > > > > Mary Lee: > ounds like I really need to get your book. A cousin and I inherited the > ask of finishing a book by my uncle about the decendants of Pat Conway, > who > eft Sligo in 1839 for the New World, married the upstairs maid of his > mployer in Cleveland, and fathered ten children, all of whom lived to > dulthood. > Charlie Brown > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: <maryldunn@aol.com> > o: <roscommon@rootsweb.com> > ent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:11 PM > ubject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story > > > Thanks very much, Loree. I really loved working on it and putting "a face" > on some of these people. As it turns out, there are some quite interesting > stories in the U.S. part of their lives as well! While much of the story > is focused on Rutland, VT, the immigrants moved around too. > > > > Mary Lee > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Loree <Loree@dc.rr.com> > To: roscommon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 9:58 am > Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story > > > > > Mary - that is great news on your book. CONGRATULATIONS! > Loree Muldowney > ----- Original Message ----- > From: maryldunn@aol.com > To: roscommon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:06 AM > Subject: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story > > To anyone interested in the Ballykilcline story, > > My book about the Ballykilcline rent strike (1835-1848) and the fates and > ortunes of the evicted strikers in the United States (up to 1870) will be > ublished by the University of Massachusetts Press in July. Its title is, > allykilcline Rising / From Famine Ireland to Immigrant America. It is > listed > ow on Amazon but you can read a fuller description of it here: > > http://www.umass.edu/umpress/spr_08/dunn.htm > > Since some of you helped in various ways, I thought you might like to > know > hat it finally is making it to bookshelves. The story draws on history, > enealogy, and social sciences to produce the picture that it presents of > the > trikers’ lives on both sides of the Atlantic. It also draws on the > knowledge of > embers of the Ballykilcline Society, and other research communities, who > have > enerously shared what they know so we all can learn more. > > Many thanks to all who contribute to this list. 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Hi, Charlie, I see what you mean. I am interested in your Callahans. One of my own lines in Kilglass Parish, Roscommon, is Colligans. I have seen it spelled variously as Colgan, Callighan, etc. Is there any chance that Callahan morphed from Colligan? When did your Callahans emigrate and do you know where they lived (parish and/or townland) in Roscommon? Thanks, Mary Lee -----Original Message----- From: brown551967 <brown551967@bellsouth.net> To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:25 am Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story That's why I'd like it. We know what happened to the Conway clan (or our iece of it) after1850 when Pat first appears in the US Census, but what e'd like to get a better handle on is a feel for the conditions in Ireland outside of Dublin) during the pre-Famine and Famine days. Incidentially, he reason I follow the postings on Roscommon is that Jane Callahan, the pstairs maid, was from Roscommon, as were the two sisters and one brother ho followed her to the US. Charlie ---- Original Message ----- rom: <maryldunn@aol.com> o: <roscommon@rootsweb.com> ent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:22 PM ubject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story Hi, Charlie, It sounds like an interesting project, and if you get my book, I hope it helps. My book though is not just genealogical, though that is part of it. It's also a social history that tries to learn why things happened as they did. It considers what was happening in the larger society economically and politically to produce the events that happened. Mary Lee -----Original Message----- From: brown551967 <brown551967@bellsouth.net> To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 8:08 pm Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story Mary Lee: ounds like I really need to get your book. A cousin and I inherited the ask of finishing a book by my uncle about the decendants of Pat Conway, who eft Sligo in 1839 for the New World, married the upstairs maid of his mployer in Cleveland, and fathered ten children, all of whom lived to dulthood. Charlie Brown ---- Original Message ----- rom: <maryldunn@aol.com> o: <roscommon@rootsweb.com> ent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:11 PM ubject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story Thanks very much, Loree. I really loved working on it and putting "a face" on some of these people. As it turns out, there are some quite interesting stories in the U.S. part of their lives as well! While much of the story is focused on Rutland, VT, the immigrants moved around too. Mary Lee -----Original Message----- From: Loree <Loree@dc.rr.com> To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 9:58 am Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story Mary - that is great news on your book. CONGRATULATIONS! Loree Muldowney ----- Original Message ----- From: maryldunn@aol.com To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:06 AM Subject: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story To anyone interested in the Ballykilcline story, My book about the Ballykilcline rent strike (1835-1848) and the fates and ortunes of the evicted strikers in the United States (up to 1870) will be ublished by the University of Massachusetts Press in July. Its title is, allykilcline Rising / From Famine Ireland to Immigrant America. It is listed ow on Amazon but you can read a fuller description of it here: http://www.umass.edu/umpress/spr_08/dunn.htm Since some of you helped in various ways, I thought you might like to know hat it finally is making it to bookshelves. The story draws on history, enealogy, and social sciences to produce the picture that it presents of the trikers’ lives on both sides of the Atlantic. It also draws on the knowledge of embers of the Ballykilcline Society, and other research communities, who have enerously shared what they know so we all can learn more. Many thanks to all who contribute to this list. And, of course, the search for he rest of the story continues. Mary Lee Dunn maryldunn@aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. 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No I don't. A few years ago, Ed Finn, who used to run the Roscommon site, told me he thought they came from the Tibohine area. I did a quick study of Griffith's locating all of the Callahans (of any spelling) and plotted them on a blowup of the map of the area. Then I located all of the families of Caseys in the same area (my gggrandmother was a Casey who married a Callahan) and came up with "Brown's Law of Courtship". This is explained further in a note I wrote in 2002: Thanks, Linda. My problem is an overabundance of information. A year or so ago Ed Finn noted that the L-R site had a searchable Griffiths on it. So, I plugged in Callaghan and got 40 or so in the Tibohine area. Then I tried Casey (mother of my ggrandmother) and got another bunch in the Tibohine area. Applying "Brown's Law of Courting" -- "How far would a young man walk after a hard day farming to court a young lady?" I plotted the locations of the Callaghans and the Caseys, and came up with some possible clusters. Not a sure way of doing it, but we have to start somewhere, don't we? Charlie So, since I pretty well have the rural Conways in Sligo nailed down, as soon as we recover from a house fire, I'll see what I can find on the Callahans...... CAB ----- Original Message ----- From: <maryldunn@aol.com> To: <roscommon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 30, 2008 8:07 AM Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story > > Hi, Charlie, > > > > I see what you mean. > > > > I am interested in your Callahans. One of my own lines in Kilglass Parish, > Roscommon, is Colligans. I have seen it spelled variously as Colgan, > Callighan, etc. Is there any chance that Callahan morphed from Colligan? > When did your Callahans emigrate and do you know where they lived (parish > and/or townland) in Roscommon? > > > > Thanks, > > Mary Lee > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brown551967 <brown551967@bellsouth.net> > To: roscommon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sun, 30 Mar 2008 12:25 am > Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story > > > > > That's why I'd like it. We know what happened to the Conway clan (or our > iece of it) after1850 when Pat first appears in the US Census, but what > e'd like to get a better handle on is a feel for the conditions in Ireland > outside of Dublin) during the pre-Famine and Famine days. Incidentially, > he reason I follow the postings on Roscommon is that Jane Callahan, the > pstairs maid, was from Roscommon, as were the two sisters and one brother > ho followed her to the US. > Charlie > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: <maryldunn@aol.com> > o: <roscommon@rootsweb.com> > ent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 8:22 PM > ubject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story > > > Hi, Charlie, > > > > It sounds like an interesting project, and if you get my book, I hope it > helps. My book though is not just genealogical, though that is part of it. > It's also a social history that tries to learn why things happened as they > did. It considers what was happening in the larger society economically > and politically to produce the events that happened. > > > > Mary Lee > > > -----Original Message----- > From: brown551967 <brown551967@bellsouth.net> > To: roscommon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 8:08 pm > Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story > > > > > Mary Lee: > ounds like I really need to get your book. A cousin and I inherited the > ask of finishing a book by my uncle about the decendants of Pat Conway, > who > eft Sligo in 1839 for the New World, married the upstairs maid of his > mployer in Cleveland, and fathered ten children, all of whom lived to > dulthood. > Charlie Brown > ---- Original Message ----- > rom: <maryldunn@aol.com> > o: <roscommon@rootsweb.com> > ent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 1:11 PM > ubject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story > > > Thanks very much, Loree. I really loved working on it and putting "a face" > on some of these people. As it turns out, there are some quite interesting > stories in the U.S. part of their lives as well! While much of the story > is focused on Rutland, VT, the immigrants moved around too. > > > > Mary Lee > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Loree <Loree@dc.rr.com> > To: roscommon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 9:58 am > Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story > > > > > Mary - that is great news on your book. CONGRATULATIONS! > Loree Muldowney > ----- Original Message ----- > From: maryldunn@aol.com > To: roscommon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Saturday, March 29, 2008 5:06 AM > Subject: [ROSCOMMON] RE The Ballykilcline story > > To anyone interested in the Ballykilcline story, > > My book about the Ballykilcline rent strike (1835-1848) and the fates and > ortunes of the evicted strikers in the United States (up to 1870) will be > ublished by the University of Massachusetts Press in July. Its title is, > allykilcline Rising / From Famine Ireland to Immigrant America. It is > listed > ow on Amazon but you can read a fuller description of it here: > > http://www.umass.edu/umpress/spr_08/dunn.htm > > Since some of you helped in various ways, I thought you might like to > know > hat it finally is making it to bookshelves. The story draws on history, > enealogy, and social sciences to produce the picture that it presents of > the > trikers’ lives on both sides of the Atlantic. It also draws on the > knowledge of > embers of the Ballykilcline Society, and other research communities, who > have > enerously shared what they know so we all can learn more. > > Many thanks to all who contribute to this list. 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