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Thanks: I am looking for Hannons in Dysark On 8/15/07, Elizabeth Tordella <ewtordella@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ballymintan. Dysart,. Co. Roscommon per a google search. > > On 8/15/07, Sheilaploof1@aol.com <Sheilaploof1@aol.com> wrote: > > #1.)Would appreciate ANY information on ANY residents of the above > named > > townland , particularly in the 1840-1870's timeframe. > > > > MURRAY, GATELY, CLOGHER and Henry DEAN PAKENHAM are named in > the primary > > valuation list. > > > > #2.) Would appreciate ANY information, or where to find it, on > BALLYMINTAN, > > whatever it might be. > > > > Thank you, > > Sheila > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new > AOL at > > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -- > Elizabeth W. Tordella, MS, RN > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

There is a Thomas Street 15 miles west of Athlone,not much more than an crossroad but nevertheless it is signposted. Desmond O'Donnell.

Hi, I have no idea. But I sent your inquiry to a cousin in Co Galway to see if she can answer it. If she can, I will send it to you. There are two things about Athlone that I know. One is how to say it, the other is how to search the web for it. The web has no information about Cappyhurst or Thomastown. It is a curious bunch of names and if you get additional information, I would love to know it. I do so wish you well on your search. Thanks Beth On 8/20/07, Susan <sk-w@worldnet.att.net> wrote: > > Elizabeth, Thank You for the wonderful info on Athlone. > It seems you are very familiar. Would you know in which direction > Cappyhurst, Thomastown, Athlone would be? The MULVEY family lists > occupation as shepherd, so I'm guessing its out in the country. > Again thank you for generously sharing your information. > Susan K-W, sk-w@worldnet.att.net > ******************* > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Elizabeth W. Tordella, MS, RN

Elizabeth, Thank You for the wonderful info on Athlone. It seems you are very familiar. Would you know in which direction Cappyhurst, Thomastown, Athlone would be? The MULVEY family lists occupation as shepherd, so I'm guessing its out in the country. Again thank you for generously sharing your information. Susan K-W, sk-w@worldnet.att.net *******************

per http://www.athlone.ie/AboutAthlone/Genealogy.aspx. Hope this helps you. About Athlone <http://www.athlone.ie/AboutAthlone.aspx> >> Genealogy<http://www.athlone.ie/AboutAthlone/Genealogy.aspx> A Short Resume of Sources by Gearoid O'Brien, Librarian, Athlone. Athlone poses certain problems for the amateur genealogist as the river Shannon divides Athlone into two parishes, two diocese, two counties and two provinces. The parishes are St. Mary's to the east and St Peter's to the west. St. Mary's is in the Roman Catholic diocese of Ardagh and Clonmacnoise but the Church of Ireland diocese of Meath. St. Peter's is in the Roman Catholic diocese of Elphin. In the case of the Church of Ireland church for the St. Peter's Parish, it was united with that of St. Mary's parish and thus the records are retained with those of St. Mary's. The town of Athlone is in County Westmeath for administrative purposes but prior to 1899 the town west of Athlone was in Co. Roscommon while that to the east of Athlone was in Co. Westmeath. If one has 19th century records relating to Athlone, Co. Westmeath or Athlone, Co. Roscommon one can make the assumption that the Roscommon ones refer to the west Athlone. Westmeath is in the province of Leinster while Roscommon is in Connaught. One explanation for several unusual surnames being found in nineteenth century Athlone relates to the fact that Athlone was a garrison town for the British army from c. 1697 to 1922. Church and State Records Civil Registration of Births, marriages and deaths became obligatory in 1864 and copies of all three sets of records are retained in the the General Registrar's Office in Joyce House, Lombard Street, Dublin 2 (Tel 353(0)1-6354000). Prior to 1864 one is entirely dependent upon church records. The advantage of the R.C. Records in Athlone was that both parishes were mensal parishes of their respective dioceses, thus the bishop of the day had an interest in all stipends payable to the local clergy and encouraged record keeping from a relatively early date! St. Mary's R. C. records date from 1813 with the following gaps births 1827-38, 1859-62, marriages from March 1827 - December 1833 and 1885-68, death records are extant only from the period 1813-26 and would appear incomplete. These records have been indexed by Dun na Si Heritage Centre, Moate, Co. Westmeath which is the official IGP Centre for Westmeath. St. Peter's R.C. parish record that the original records date back to 1789 and these are still held in the parish. They have been indexed by the Roscommon heritage and geealogical Centre, Church Street, Strokestown, Co Roscommon. St. Peter's Church of Ireland Parish records are held by The Representative Church Body Library, Braemore Park, Rathgar, Dublin 14. (Tel 353 (0)1-4923979). Copies of the earlier records from both St. Mary's & St. Peter's Church of Ireland parishes form part of The Burgess Papers in Athlone Library. Athlone Library holds copies of Griffith's Valuations for Athlone (1854) which details the land or householder for every dwelling in the area, giving details of the street or townland name and a description of the property (i.e. land, house, house & land, corn mill, forge etc.). It also lists the landlord for the property and the annual rateable valuation. Census Records The first full census of Ireland was taken in 1821 and thereafter at ten-year intervals. While statistical information survives, the actual census forms do not. The only surviving census returns available to researchers are those of 1901 and 1911. The census returns are held in: The National Archives of Ireland,Bishop Street, Dublin 8. (Tel 353(0)1-4072300). On 8/19/07, Maureen Sullivan <mtjs13@earthlink.net> wrote: > > Is Athlone in County Roscommon? > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Elizabeth W. Tordella, MS, RN

Is Athlone in County Roscommon?

Ballymintan. Dysart,. Co. Roscommon per a google search. On 8/15/07, Sheilaploof1@aol.com <Sheilaploof1@aol.com> wrote: > #1.)Would appreciate ANY information on ANY residents of the above named > townland , particularly in the 1840-1870's timeframe. > > MURRAY, GATELY, CLOGHER and Henry DEAN PAKENHAM are named in the primary > valuation list. > > #2.) Would appreciate ANY information, or where to find it, on BALLYMINTAN, > whatever it might be. > > Thank you, > Sheila > > > > > > ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at > http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Elizabeth W. Tordella, MS, RN

#1.)Would appreciate ANY information on ANY residents of the above named townland , particularly in the 1840-1870's timeframe. MURRAY, GATELY, CLOGHER and Henry DEAN PAKENHAM are named in the primary valuation list. #2.) Would appreciate ANY information, or where to find it, on BALLYMINTAN, whatever it might be. Thank you, Sheila ************************************** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Ellen: Wondering if you can do a lookup for me as well; I am going to Ireland in late September but won't have enough time to do research there. I am searching for the family home of my direct paternal line (HIGGINS). His wife came from the little townland of Copse just outside of Boyle, Co Roscommon so I do think he lived somewhere close by; unfortunately, I do not know the location for certain, nor do I know names of parents or siblings, just his, PATRICK HIGGINS and he was supposed to have been born abt 1829. I have been told that there was a Higgins family that lived in Ardagh, Co Roscommon at one time and would like to check that out if possible. What I did in the research to find the family of his wife was to gather the names and locations of all the people from Griffith's by the same surname. I think that will have to be the first step in trying to find Patrick and his family. Patrick was married, his wife was baptized, and all the children were baptized in the Boyle RC Church which would be the Elphin RC Parish, I believe. I do not know whether Ardagh is in that parish but think it might be since it is/was located about 1/2 mile due West of Boyle and is shown in the Discovery Map Series #33 as either being part of or right next to Ballylugnagon. I have used Griffith's and have gleaned all the information I can from it but it hasn't helped. Any information would be appreciated. Pat Message: 5 Date: Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:26:23 -0400 From: enalibof@netscape.net Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Tithe Book for this area (Boyle) To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8C9A90CFAC242FF-D38-5C77@FWM-D21.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed Fran, do you mean Boyle Town? If you give me more information maybe I can help you. I need the parish. Have you used the Griffith's Valuation Index? Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Fran Weeks <fifi36@comcast.net> To: ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 3:13 pm Subject: [ROSCOMMON] Tithe Book for this area (Boyle) Can anyone tell me how to go about locating the Tithe Book for the Boyle area of County Roscommon? Like most of you, I am on an ancestor hunt and have been advised that to move past my brick wall(s), I should look at the tithe book that dates back to the 1820s. That would be an enormous help, but how to do it is the question. Is is possible that it is on line, and if so - how do I get to it? If not, then what? Many thanks. Fran Weeks

I apologize to the list for sending out the previous message that should have been posted privately. Fran Weeks

Hi Ellen, Thank you very much for responding to my message. I can tell you that the Gavicans of 1812 lived in Ballyluganon townland; the parish of Boyle, and the Poor Law Union of Boyle. (I found that there are currently Gavicans living in Mockmoyne.) Of course, not completely understanding the Irish geographical divisions of land, I'm guessing that it's like towns, cities, counties and states here in the U.S. However, I believe that the BERNES and HANLYS of that era probably lived in close proximity - since these families intermarried. Cecelia HANLY (her father was Thomas Hanly) and Thomas BERNE married, and I know of only two of their children: Elizabeth (my gr-gr-grandmother) and her brother, Thomas. He was born in 1794; I believe her to be his older sister, but I have no birth date for her. Elizabeth HANLY BERNE married Thomas Gavican (also spelled Gaviken) in 1812, and I know of five of their sons: Richard (b.1818), Thomas (1822), James (1825), Edward (1827), and my gr-grandfather, Robert GAVICAN. Robert, born in 1830, emigrated to Quebec in 1847, and ended up in Boston, MA. I have acquired this information with the help of the Sacristan of St. Joseph's Church in Boyle and Griffiths Index, and with occasional help from online friends. I'm certain that the Great Famine hit them hard, for why else would a seventeen-year-old boy set out alone to cross the ocean as Robert Gavican did? I know that his brother Edward's wife died, and I don't know what happened to any of the rest of the extended family. As you know, the more you find out, the more you want to find out, and that's what I'm trying to do. Any help or suggestions would be greatly welcome. Thank you. Fran ----- Original Message ----- From: <enalibof@netscape.net> To: <roscommon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 10:26 PM Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Tithe Book for this area (Boyle) > Fran, do you mean Boyle Town? If you give me more information maybe I > can help you. I need the parish. Have you used the Griffith's Valuation > Index? > > Ellen > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fran Weeks <fifi36@comcast.net> > To: ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com > Sent: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 3:13 pm > Subject: [ROSCOMMON] Tithe Book for this area (Boyle) > > > > Can anyone tell me how to go about locating the Tithe Book for the > Boyle > area of County Roscommon? > Like most of you, I am on an ancestor hunt and have been advised that > to > move past my brick wall(s), I should look at the tithe book that dates > back to > the 1820s. That would be an enormous help, but how to do it is the > question. > Is is possible that it is on line, and if so - how do I get to it? If > not, > then what? > Many thanks. > Fran Weeks > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of > the message > > > ________________________________________________________________________ > Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and > industry-leading spam and email virus protection. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fran, do you mean Boyle Town? If you give me more information maybe I can help you. I need the parish. Have you used the Griffith's Valuation Index? Ellen -----Original Message----- From: Fran Weeks <fifi36@comcast.net> To: ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 9 Aug 2007 3:13 pm Subject: [ROSCOMMON] Tithe Book for this area (Boyle) Can anyone tell me how to go about locating the Tithe Book for the Boyle area of County Roscommon? Like most of you, I am on an ancestor hunt and have been advised that to move past my brick wall(s), I should look at the tithe book that dates back to the 1820s. That would be an enormous help, but how to do it is the question. Is is possible that it is on line, and if so - how do I get to it? If not, then what? Many thanks. Fran Weeks ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

Yes, the LDS has the TAB (Tithe Applotment Books) on film. The Roscommon Library and NLI in Dublin have copies. I am sure they can be located other places as well. Have you done a google search for them? Jeannine NC -----Original Message----- From: roscommon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roscommon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Charlie Brown Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:41 PM To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Tithe Book for this area (Boyle) Fran: Many of the Tithe Applotments are available on microfilm from the Family History Center in Salt Lake City. Unfortunately, the one I was interested in -- Drumcliffe Parish in Sligo, was apparently never done, or was not sent to Dublin, because all there is in the Sligo film is an exchange between Sligo and Dublin over the missing data! Charlie Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Blanchard" <jblanchard@starpower.net> To: <roscommon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Tithe Book for this area (Boyle) > The Tithe Applotment Survey ran from about 1823 to 1837. I do not > believe they are on line anywhere. I did some research at the National > Library in Dublin, but that was very cumbersome. I also used a service > in Dublin to do some searches for me. Their website is > www.eneclann.ie. Or you can write them at info@eneclann.i.e. > > Jackie > > Fran Weeks wrote: >> Can anyone tell me how to go about locating the Tithe Book for the >> Boyle area of County Roscommon? >> Like most of you, I am on an ancestor hunt and have been advised that >> to move past my brick wall(s), I should look at the tithe book that dates >> back to the 1820s. That would be an enormous help, but how to do it is >> the question. >> Is is possible that it is on line, and if so - how do I get to it? >> If not, then what? >> Many thanks. >> Fran Weeks >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/936 - Release Date: 8/4/2007 > 2:42 PM > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Fran: Many of the Tithe Applotments are available on microfilm from the Family History Center in Salt Lake City. Unfortunately, the one I was interested in -- Drumcliffe Parish in Sligo, was apparently never done, or was not sent to Dublin, because all there is in the Sligo film is an exchange between Sligo and Dublin over the missing data! Charlie Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jackie Blanchard" <jblanchard@starpower.net> To: <roscommon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 9:14 PM Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Tithe Book for this area (Boyle) > The Tithe Applotment Survey ran from about 1823 to 1837. I do not > believe they are on line anywhere. I did some research at the National > Library in Dublin, but that was very cumbersome. I also used a service > in Dublin to do some searches for me. Their website is > www.eneclann.ie. Or you can write them at info@eneclann.i.e. > > Jackie > > Fran Weeks wrote: >> Can anyone tell me how to go about locating the Tithe Book for the >> Boyle area of County Roscommon? >> Like most of you, I am on an ancestor hunt and have been advised that >> to move past my brick wall(s), I should look at the tithe book that dates >> back to the 1820s. That would be an enormous help, but how to do it is >> the question. >> Is is possible that it is on line, and if so - how do I get to it? >> If not, then what? >> Many thanks. >> Fran Weeks >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.476 / Virus Database: 269.11.4/936 - Release Date: 8/4/2007 > 2:42 PM > >

The Tithe Applotment Survey ran from about 1823 to 1837. I do not believe they are on line anywhere. I did some research at the National Library in Dublin, but that was very cumbersome. I also used a service in Dublin to do some searches for me. Their website is www.eneclann.ie. Or you can write them at info@eneclann.i.e. Jackie Fran Weeks wrote: > Can anyone tell me how to go about locating the Tithe Book for the Boyle area of County Roscommon? > Like most of you, I am on an ancestor hunt and have been advised that to move past my brick wall(s), I should look at the tithe book that dates back to the 1820s. That would be an enormous help, but how to do it is the question. > Is is possible that it is on line, and if so - how do I get to it? If not, then what? > Many thanks. > Fran Weeks > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Can anyone tell me how to go about locating the Tithe Book for the Boyle area of County Roscommon? Like most of you, I am on an ancestor hunt and have been advised that to move past my brick wall(s), I should look at the tithe book that dates back to the 1820s. That would be an enormous help, but how to do it is the question. Is is possible that it is on line, and if so - how do I get to it? If not, then what? Many thanks. Fran Weeks

John, Thanks for your information on the Sheerin christenings. In regard to my Grandfather Jeremiah Sheerin, his father was also listed as Darby, Dermit/Dermot, Jeremiah and the name Sheerin was also spelled as Sheeran for him. Thanks for any help. Jake ----- Original Message ----- From: john liddy To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, July 25, 2007 5:26 PM Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Sheerin from Boyle, Roscommon I know this Sharkey, Sharkett, Sheerin family has been on the list for a few days so some one may have already looked at the LDS CD set British Isles Vital Recond Index but here goes. There are many records from the Boyle RC church, Sharkey 126 entrys from 1792 to 1880, Sharkett 106 from 1794 to ? ( i forgot to write that one down) Sheerin 277 from 1791 to 1878. There are 12 Ellen Sheerin christenings from 1803 to 1861. Nothing on Jeremiah. There was a Johanes (John) Sharkett married to an Eleonora Sheerin and they were the parents of Maria 9 Feb 1820, Johana (female) 21 Jan 1822, and Michael 14 Sep 1823. Jack ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jake, this is really a long shot but you could get this film and see if there's any useful information.. Marriage; James Sheeran to Ellen Sheeran, 20 Aug 1859. Recorded in Boyle, Roscommon. FHL film # 989743 Jack