Familysearch.org IGI is a source of Roscommon baptisms through extracted birth or christening record for the locality listed in the record. However, they were copied exactly as written in the sacramental register so they are in Latin. The IGI compensates for the Latin and responds to the English entry in Familysearch. Because there are 17 parishes in Roscommon I saved money and time by not getting the microfilm or going to Salt Lake but emailing the Heritage Centre. For $50 they sent me the information. I then ordered the appropriate microfilm as the IGI is not a primary source for documentation. The Mormon missionaries spent several years microfilming the sacramental registers in Mayo and Roscommon. Be aware that the National Libray of Ireland did the original microfilming of sacramental register from whatever date was the earliest record to 1880 to cover the period when Civil Registration was just beginning in 1864. They have no intention of doing anymore. However, the Mormon microfilm has some later dates if the parish priest gave permission. Best wishes for a successful ancestral hunt. ________________________________________________________________________ Check Out the new free AIM(R) Mail -- Unlimited storage and industry-leading spam and email virus protection.

Dear Friends of County Roscommon-- With all of these discussions about the costs of research in Ireland, I think it is appropriate for me to jump in and say a few words. My Mom came from a farm outside Keadue in County Roscommon. I have been to Ireland twice to meet many first cousins and to do genealogy research. Almost all of my research was done here in the USA through the Mormon (LDS) microfilm system before I made the trip. They have microfilmed many (perhaps all) of the church records that are were in existence (back to about the 1820's), and all of the civil records of B/M/D since they became mandatory in 1864. You do not have to be a member of their church to use their extensive library capabilities. What I did get in Ireland that is not be available anywhere else, were these five items: 1. Family stories 2. A visit to the very house where my Mom was born and grew up 3. Photos of gravestones of my grandparents and other relations 4. Holding in my hands the original 1911 Irish Census, which had my grandfataher's signature and his listing of all nine of his children. This included my Mom who was the youngest and was only one year old. 5. A map of the townland where my Mom was raised I also wish to advise that I paid about $45 (US) to the County Roscommon Heritage Society in Strokestown for research (by mail). They did provide some help to me, but they took several months to respond. I visited with them when I was there and found that they were tremendously overloaded and behind schedule. My recommendations: 1. Do everything you can through the Mormon capabilities before you go 2. If you go, first spend about two days in Dublin researching at: a. The Irish National Genealogy Society b. The General Records Office c. The National Library d. The map office at Phoenix Park (very expensive) 3. Then spend the rest of your time enjoying and immersing yourself into the Country Roscommon atmosphere and lifestyle of today. If you have cousins, you will find them to be the most wonderful people on the face of the earth !!! George Hoyt ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

You don't have to spend "thousands of dollars" to go to Ireland and see for youself. The Troy Irish Genealogy Society is going as a group 4/17/08 for $1650 a person; 8 days, 6 nights, 5 dinners, all breakfasts and touring with admission to many sites, catamaran cruise, ferry across the Shannon, too much to list. We will NOT be researching BUT you could go spend less on touring and do your research. We will be enjoying the country.... By the way we have 30 people with 12 empty seats, e-mail me off list if you are interested in joining us. You can take tour only, meet us in Dublin or tour and flight if you are local. Kristin Cooney-Ayotte ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

P.S. to my earlier message--The Tithe Applotment book records are also available on microfilm from LDS if you're near one of their local U.S. facilities. You have to order them in most cases I believe for viewing on site at one of their family history centers, but it only costs about $5.00 for the appropriate film once you've tracked down the number and I believe they will help you with that as well. Jackie >> >> >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Some of the source material they use is available elsewhere for free or at a much reduced cost particularly when talking about County Roscommon. Griffith's and the 1901 census are available for free at the leitrim-roscommon website--www.leitrim-roscommon.com (although some parishes/townlands are much more complete than others). The 1749 Synge or "Elphin" census is there as well and can also be found elsewhere on the internet, giving in most cases a civil parish name. You can also find (at least I did once) the 1796 Flax growers listing on the internet. The Latter Day Saints website, more commonly known as www.familysearch.org sells a very inexpensive--$20 to $25--CD set "British Vital Records" which has a good deal of Roscommon civil and Roman Catholic parish records. Even a full membership on Ancestry.com looks like a decent deal compared to the Roscommon Heritage Site costs. Maybe most of you know about these other resources but I thought I'd throw them out there for anyone who may not. Using only the county name "Roscommon" for a search indicator is like looking for a needle in a haystack. I originally thought a last name like "Sharkey" (or Sharkett, Sharkety in earlier variations) or a first name like "Dominic" was so unique that anyone in Roscommon with that last name must be one of mine. Well, they may be back 500 years or so, but from at least 1800 on I might as well be searching for John Smith. I do think it is great that those people willing to gamble some euro's for naught are kind enough to share it with others. I may play this particular lottery a couple of times myself at some point and will do the same with the results. Good luck to all. Jackie Elizabeth Tordella wrote: > Hi and good evening. > > I went to the site and had to spend 20 euros for information that was not > applicable. It would help greatly if more than a name appeared. There is no > way to assess the quality or appropriateness of an entry. It is very > expensive if you find more not applicables than applicalbes. I can't afford > to fish in a pond that reveals so little. Though I would be happy to buy > good information. I just need more information to evaluate that it is in my > family's interest. > > Beth > > On 10/12/07, MK Douglas <rkdoug2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > >> oooh--that is not nice at all. I agree with the other posters that they >> are asking a lot of money with not a lot of information up front. >> >> What happened when I searched, was that I got a list of two or three >> records that I could view for money. Perhaps in your case, there were so >> many that they wanted money first--I wouldn't do it >> >> kathleen >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > > >

Hi and good evening. I went to the site and had to spend 20 euros for information that was not applicable. It would help greatly if more than a name appeared. There is no way to assess the quality or appropriateness of an entry. It is very expensive if you find more not applicables than applicalbes. I can't afford to fish in a pond that reveals so little. Though I would be happy to buy good information. I just need more information to evaluate that it is in my family's interest. Beth On 10/12/07, MK Douglas <rkdoug2000@yahoo.com> wrote: > > oooh--that is not nice at all. I agree with the other posters that they > are asking a lot of money with not a lot of information up front. > > What happened when I searched, was that I got a list of two or three > records that I could view for money. Perhaps in your case, there were so > many that they wanted money first--I wouldn't do it > > kathleen > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Elizabeth W. Tordella, MS, RN

Shooting in the dark with 10 euro bullets - two unwanted Connolly records from the Roscommon Heritage & Genealogy Company web site. Surely they could improve the database so you had a better chance at the target. Michael Connolley Baptism Record Name: Patrick Connolly Date of Baptism / Birth: 29/04/1813 Address: Parish / District: ATHLEAGUE Denomination: Gender: Unknown Father: Thomas Connolly Mother: Mary N-A Occupation: Sponsor 1 / Informant 1: John Connoile Sponsor 2 / Informant 2: Catherine Torpy Baptism Record Name: Patrick Connolly Date of Baptism / Birth: 03/11/1844 Address: Parish / District: ATHLEAGUE Denomination: Gender: Unknown Father: Thomas Connolly Mother: Brigid Rush Occupation: Sponsor 1 / Informant 1: Thomas Byrne Sponsor 2 / Informant 2: Mary Kelly

Have to say that I agree. I went to the site, did the search, then said " Don't think so" due to the high cost. Perhaps the problem is that when we see somethng that looks likely, we think it is probable. I just didn't see anything that seemed likely enough. On the other hand, all of us could spend thousands of dollars (or whatever) to travel to Ireland and look at the records for ourselves. I feel very conflicted about this. If I knew that these were the only records available for my name, and I could spend $30 to know thjat the record wasdnot of my ancestor, I could save the thousand or so that it would cost me to go and research for myself Perhaps we are too greedy--am including myself Kathleen Elizabeth Tordella <ewtordella@gmail.com> wrote: Hi and good evening. I went to the site and had to spend 20 euros for information that was not applicable. It would help greatly if more than a name appeared. There is no way to assess the quality or appropriateness of an entry. It is very expensive if you find more not applicables than applicalbes. I can't afford to fish in a pond that reveals so little. Though I would be happy to buy good information. I just need more information to evaluate that it is in my family's interest. Beth On 10/12/07, MK Douglas wrote: > > oooh--that is not nice at all. I agree with the other posters that they > are asking a lot of money with not a lot of information up front. > > What happened when I searched, was that I got a list of two or three > records that I could view for money. Perhaps in your case, there were so > many that they wanted money first--I wouldn't do it > > kathleen > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Elizabeth W. Tordella, MS, RN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Listers I too checked out the new Roscommon site .Pretty costly but I managed to locate my Greatgrandparents marriage record so I am thrilled.Unfortunately the record did not state both parties parents details.Does anyone know if it was common to not list parents if they were deceased.The marriage was in Kilglass parish 1873. I also paid for an incorrect record so will post it here on the chance that someone might want it. Baptism Name Thomas Madden Date of Birth/ Baptism 8/5/1876 Address Knockroe Parish Ballinameen Denomination Roman Catholic Father Thomas Madden Mother Brigid McDonagh Sponsor 1 Michael Hogan Sponsor 2 Catherine McDonagh Notes--Fr M Somers cheers Marion _________________________________________________________________ What are you waiting for? Join Lavalife FREE http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30288&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Join_free_OCT07&_m=EXT

Maz, could you sahre the website address, would like to take a look Thanks Dave Maz Jakupi wrote: > Hi Listers > I too checked out the new Roscommon site .Pretty costly but I managed to locate my Greatgrandparents marriage record so I am thrilled.Unfortunately the record did not state both parties parents details.Does anyone know if it was common to not list parents if they were deceased.The marriage was in Kilglass parish 1873. > I also paid for an incorrect record so will post it here on the chance that someone might want it. > Baptism > Name Thomas Madden > Date of Birth/ Baptism 8/5/1876 > Address Knockroe > Parish Ballinameen > Denomination Roman Catholic > > Father Thomas Madden > Mother Brigid McDonagh > Sponsor 1 Michael Hogan > Sponsor 2 Catherine McDonagh > > Notes--Fr M Somers > > cheers > Marion > > _________________________________________________________________ > What are you waiting for? Join Lavalife FREE > http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Flavalife9%2Eninemsn%2Ecom%2Eau%2Fclickthru%2Fclickthru%2Eact%3Fid%3Dninemsn%26context%3Dan99%26locale%3Den%5FAU%26a%3D30288&_t=764581033&_r=email_taglines_Join_free_OCT07&_m=EXT > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

> Lynne--the search is free. It will show you what records exist for the > person for whom you are > searching. BUT you must buy the credits in order to actually view the > record. Withut seeing the > record, you really have no idea whether it is the one you want. Thank you for the additional information. I began to gather that as I read subsequent posts about it, but I entered "John Kelly" in the search window and got only a message asking for money. I am *sure* there was at least one John Kelly in Roscommon, but I got no results. It was that that surprised me. Lynne

oooh--that is not nice at all. I agree with the other posters that they are asking a lot of money with not a lot of information up front. What happened when I searched, was that I got a list of two or three records that I could view for money. Perhaps in your case, there were so many that they wanted money first--I wouldn't do it kathleen

Lynne--the search is free. It will show you what records exist for the person for whom you are searching. BUT you must buy the credits in order to actually view the record. Withut seeing the record, you really have no idea whether it is the one you want. kathleen

Hope it does hate to see it go to waste. Jan ggod luck -----Original Message----- From: roscommon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roscommon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Tordella Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 11:16 PM To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Marriage Record Coniff and Kenny Hi, Jan This may really be of help to my family. Thanks for sharing. Really great! Beth Researching Rabbitte, Cunniffe, Co Galway; Winston, Lyons, Co Roscommon On 10/11/07, Jan <squash1909@comcast.net> wrote: > > Tried the new database online for Mallow and Roscommon. Picked this > record and it was the wrong one so I hope someone else can use the > info > > 1/23/1873 Kilbegnet/Ballinakill > > Michael Coniff Address Toberroe Roman Catholic Father John Coniff > Mother Not recorded Married Rose Kenny Address Prospery Roman > Catholic Father and mother not recorded > Witnesses Patrick Kelly Cecilia Clerke > > Hope someone can make use of it. I found one I was looking for but > the search results should contain more info so you can better select > your ancestor since the charge is so high for each record. > > Good Luck > > Jan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Elizabeth W. Tordella, MS, RN ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Jan This may really be of help to my family. Thanks for sharing. Really great! Beth Researching Rabbitte, Cunniffe, Co Galway; Winston, Lyons, Co Roscommon On 10/11/07, Jan <squash1909@comcast.net> wrote: > > Tried the new database online for Mallow and Roscommon. Picked this > record > and it was the wrong one so I hope someone else can use the info > > 1/23/1873 Kilbegnet/Ballinakill > > Michael Coniff Address Toberroe Roman Catholic Father John Coniff Mother > Not recorded Married > Rose Kenny Address Prospery Roman Catholic Father and mother not > recorded > Witnesses Patrick Kelly Cecilia Clerke > > Hope someone can make use of it. I found one I was looking for but the > search results should contain more info so you can better select your > ancestor since the charge is so high for each record. > > Good Luck > > Jan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Elizabeth W. Tordella, MS, RN

Yes and it is 10 per record to see the whole record and unfortunately the index only shows the name you searched so it is at best "a turkey shoot". I think for the fee they should provide more info in the index so you have a better chance of selecting the correct individual. Hopefully when all counties are online the prices will adjust. Jan -----Original Message----- From: roscommon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roscommon-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lynne Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 10:50 PM To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Free database searches? Uh, what am I not understanding here? I registered at the Roscommon site and got this message when I tried to do a search: "Thank you for registering with the Irish Familiy History Foundation. You may now access the free search and can login again using the email address and password you supplied. To view an individual detail genealogy record you will need to purchase credit at a cost of ?10.00 per record. These online databases are an invaluable source in helping you trace your Irish Ancestors. " You have to "purchase credit" at 10 Euros per record in order to do a "free" search? Whaaaaat? Lynne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Uh, what am I not understanding here? I registered at the Roscommon site and got this message when I tried to do a search: "Thank you for registering with the Irish Familiy History Foundation. You may now access the free search and can login again using the email address and password you supplied. To view an individual detail genealogy record you will need to purchase credit at a cost of ?10.00 per record. These online databases are an invaluable source in helping you trace your Irish Ancestors. " You have to "purchase credit" at 10 Euros per record in order to do a "free" search? Whaaaaat? Lynne

Jan _____ From: Irish Family History Foundation [mailto:info@ifhf.ie] Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:15 PM To: squash1909@comcast.net Subject: Welcome to IFHF - Online Record Search Dear Ms Lyman, Welcome to the Mallow Heritage Centre's online records which allows access to the birth, death and marriages records for Co. Cork (North & East) which the centre holds. This site is part of the Irish Family History Foundation's Irish Genealogical Online Record Search System (ORS). The Irish Family History Foundation represents and co-ordinates the network of county based genealogical centres on the island of Ireland. Over the coming months the records of other centres will become available firstly as individual county databases, and then these will be amalgamated into one Irish online records database which will allow searching across all counties and sources. To perform the free search, you will be required to login using your email address and password, given at the bottom of this email. You can then purchase credit to view the detailed records for up to 48 hours. Further credit can be purchased to top up your account. Credit is valid for 12 months and can be purchased and spent on any of the ORS web sites. The follow sites are currently live: Armagh <http://armagh.brsgenealogy.com/> Ancestry Mallow Heritage Centre (Cork North <http://corknortheast.brsgenealogy.com/> & East) Swords Heritage Centre (Dublin <http://dublinnorth.brsgenealogy.com/> North) Leitrim Heritage <http://leitrim.brsgenealogy.com/> Centre North Tipperary Genealogy <http://tipperarynorth.brsgenealogy.com/> Centre Couty Roscommon Heritage <http://roscommon.brsgenealogy.com/> & Genealogy Company We hope that your visit is an enjoyable one and we would greatly appreciate your views. While we cannot guarantee a personal reply to every comment, we do take feedback seriously and will implement changes based upon user suggestions wherever practicable. (email: info@ifhf.ie) <mailto:info@ifhf.ie> Login Details: Email Address: squash1909@comcast.net Password: 03171209 --------------------------------------------------

Jan, Do you have the address for the new online for Mallow and Roscommon? Thanks, Dede ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan" <squash1909@comcast.net> To: <ROSCOMMON-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 11, 2007 9:57 PM Subject: [ROSCOMMON] Marriage Record Coniff and Kenny > Tried the new database online for Mallow and Roscommon. Picked this > record > and it was the wrong one so I hope someone else can use the info > > 1/23/1873 Kilbegnet/Ballinakill > > Michael Coniff Address Toberroe Roman Catholic Father John Coniff Mother > Not recorded Married > Rose Kenny Address Prospery Roman Catholic Father and mother not > recorded > Witnesses Patrick Kelly Cecilia Clerke > > Hope someone can make use of it. I found one I was looking for but the > search results should contain more info so you can better select your > ancestor since the charge is so high for each record. > > Good Luck > > Jan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Tried the new database online for Mallow and Roscommon. Picked this record and it was the wrong one so I hope someone else can use the info 1/23/1873 Kilbegnet/Ballinakill Michael Coniff Address Toberroe Roman Catholic Father John Coniff Mother Not recorded Married Rose Kenny Address Prospery Roman Catholic Father and mother not recorded Witnesses Patrick Kelly Cecilia Clerke Hope someone can make use of it. I found one I was looking for but the search results should contain more info so you can better select your ancestor since the charge is so high for each record. Good Luck Jan