On my grandfather's 1864 Civil Registration, his father's occupation was given as LICENSED PUBLICAN. However, his father had gone to the US in 1863 and his Emigrants Savings Bank entry gives his occupation in the US as longshoreman. 1. Does that mean the occupation of Licensed Publican was what he did when he lived in Ireland (Boyle area, Co Roscommon)? 2. If so, would there be some sort of record - perhaps a license or tax records, or property ownership papers, etc? 3. If so, where might those records be kept? Thanks Pat Oklahoma

City Hall Area Walking Tour A tour of historic sites within walking distance of City Hall on Saturday, December 1, presented by the New York Irish History Roundtable, will be led principally by John Ridge, our Vice President for Local History. Occasional contributions will be offered by Charles Laverty, President. Among the places to be visited are 165 William Street, where John Devoy published the weekly Gaelic American from 1903 until his death in 1928 and where he led the nationwide Irish Republican Brotherhood/Clan na  Gael conspiracy and funding that culminated in the Easter Rising in Dublin, 1916. Directly across the street at 164 William Street is the William H.  Sadlier, Inc. publishing house, famous for its early novels, general books, and textbooks for Catholic readers. The firm is still in business after 170 years. It became known in its early years for bestsellers by the immigrant from Cavan, Mary Anne Madden Sadlier, who produced a phenomenal sixty titles addressing issues of domestic servants, immigration, famine, historical romances, Western pioneers, and grammar-school catechisms. Other historic places to be visited are St. Peter's at Church and Barclay streets, New York's oldest Catholic church, and the nearby St. Paul's Episcopal Chapel on Vesey Street and Broadway. Here we'll view the Gaelic inscription on the William J. MacNeven monument executed by a member of the Gaelic-speaking Draddy family of sculptors from Kerry. Also here on Broadway was Jeremiah O'Donovan Rossa's first New York business, a travel agency on Broadway at Murray Street. On Chambers Street, on the same block as the Emigrant Savings Bank, was the Draft Office commanded briefly by County Down-born Colonel Robert Nugent of the Irish Brigade before the outbreak of the 1863 Draft Riots. Nugent's home was pillaged and burned by the mob during the riots. Also on Chambers Street was the office of the Irish-language weekly newspaper The Gael and the office of the lawyer-historian Michael  Doheny from Tipperary, an escapee from the failed 1848 rising. By 1851, Doheny would organize a New York militia unit, the 69th Infantry, and later, on St. Patrick's Day, 1858, the Fenian Brotherhood at his office just north of Foley Square at 6 Centre Street. The assembly point for this walking tour of about two hours (rain or shine) will be at the City Hall Guard's Booth on the east side of Broadway, opposite Murray Street, Saturday,  December 1, at 2 p.m. The tour requires two hours of walking on sidewalks. ************************************** Check out AOL's list of 2007's hottest products. (http://money.aol.com/special/hot-products-2007?NCID=aoltop00030000000001)

Hi listers. Have come across an entry from the COI parish registers for Boyle which I received but which was not the one I wanted. Thes may fit into someone's family: July 4th 1866 James IRWIN aged 21, draper, and Eleanor Anne SHERA aged 20. Both of Boyle. Groom's father = John IRWIN, farmer. Bride's father = John SHERA farmer. Witnesses: Alexander ???, John SHERA Married in Parish Church Boyle by John Davis, Curate, after licence. July 12th 1866 Francis ARMSTRONG Esq Bachelor/full age and Mary ROBERTSON spinster full age. Francis of Sandhill near Boyle, Mary of Abbey View (Boyle). Groom's father = John ARMSTRONG, Clerk. Bride's father = Caleb ROBERTSON, Captain. Witnesses: Elizabeth ROBINSON, William ARMSTRONG Married in Parish Church Boyle by John M MAGUIRE, Vicar, after licence. Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand. Apologies to those who receive this twice.

The digest version of this mailing list arrived 10/24/07 with an attachment, which is very unusual. Did everyone receive it, and who sent it? Must have just snuck through. I did not open it, and wonder what it is. Anyone know? (I've always hoped for a photo album...including baby pictures, since I'm dreaming ...of my Irish ancestors. Maybe that's what it is.) ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

Hi listers, back on the list after some time away. Just re-posting my Roscommon links - would love to hear from anyone connected to Francis ARMSTRONG and Wilhlemina LOANE who lived in Boyle from about 1867. Children of Francis and Wilhelmina: Mary Anne 1868 married William MARTIN Wilhelmina Jane 1870-1886 Francis Robert 1872 John A 1874 Thomas 1876 Jane Elizabeth 1878-1944 married James SHEA Frederick William 1880 I have the background of Francis and Wilhelmina but I have found no trace of any of the sons other than Thomas who is still living with his parents in Boyle in 1901. All contacts most welcome. Cheers, Patsy - New Zealand.

Bill if you ever come across the name Timothy FARRELL born c 1705 Roscommon no idea of parentage or what Parish he came from. Timothy was tried 1827 for Picking Pockets & transported for 7 years to Australia. Have reach the point where I'm grasping at straws to find information on him. Carol in Oz -----Original Message----- From: roscommon-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roscommon-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of wmeehan678@aol.com Sent: Thursday, 18 October 2007 4:25 AM To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] BRUEN FAMILY - Churchhill (Kileen),Co. Roscommon (FARRELL) Hello Listers:? Looking for information re the John Bruen/Anne Farrell family of Churchhill (Killeen), Ardcarn Parish, Co. Roscommon.? They were born c. 1815 -1820. The family?was living in Churchhill?in the 1860s to 1880s.? John died 1888 in Churchhill; Anne in 1889 in Clooncloose (where she llived with daughter).??They had at least five children:? Bridget b c 1840, Margaret b 1845, Margaret (II) b 1854, Thomas b 1851,?Patrick b 1857, and John b 1860.? John and Margaret migrated to New Haven, CT.? Bridget married John O'Malia from Cleaheen (or Annagh), the son of John O'Malia on 30 Oct 1865. She stayed in Ireland; gave birth?to?ten children between 1868 and 1887? .??The family lived in and around Clooncoose, Ardcarn Parish. ? Do any of these names sound familar - - any connections?? Thanks. ? Bill Meehan ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.0/1076 - Release Date: 17/10/2007 7:53 PM No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.15.1/1079 - Release Date: 19/10/2007 5:10 AM

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Pat H. I have a map of the full area around Boyle and I cannot see anything that looks like "Easter Snow". However, at that time pretty well everything was "Irish" or Gaelic, so maybe you could try to translate. Jan ----- Original Message ----- From: "archworth" <archwort@bconnex.net> To: <ROSCOMMON@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, October 18, 2007 8:58 PM Subject: [ROSCOMMON] passenger list? and town location? >I have recently received a copy of an obituary for an EDWARD MURRAY, from >earlier research I have found that: > > Edward was christened 13 August 1837 in the.R.C. parish of Killucan and > Ballimaneen, he died 15 August 1813 in Stayner, Ontario, Canada. > Edward was the son of Francis and Bridget Murray. From Canadian census > records the family who left Ireland consisted of, Francis,Bridget and > their children Catherine, Owen, Edward, Mariam and Margaret. > > > The obituary raises the following questions, > > > 1. The deceased was born in "EASTER SNOW" near the town of Boyle. Any > suggestion of where that might be? > > 2. left Ireland sailing from SLIGO on May 1, 1846, the journey took nine > weeks before arriving at Montreal (Canada) > Would there be any information available such as passenger lists available > for this time period? > > All suggestions sincerely appreciated. Pat H. > > > > > > > > -- > I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. > It has removed 62682 spam emails to date. > Paying users do not have this message in their emails. > Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I believe there is an "Esternow" cemetary in the areas you speak of. May be the name of the townland where it is located. JackieAs to 1846 sailings from Ireland to Canada, try googling "the famine ships." There are ship rosters on Ancestry.com, I bellieve, but you have to have a membership to search them. But googling the above may give you more information and perhaps free search resources. Jackie archworth wrote: > I have recently received a copy of an obituary for an EDWARD MURRAY, from earlier research I have found that: > > Edward was christened 13 August 1837 in the.R.C. parish of Killucan and Ballimaneen, he died 15 August 1813 in Stayner, Ontario, Canada. > Edward was the son of Francis and Bridget Murray. From Canadian census records the family who left Ireland consisted of, Francis,Bridget and their children Catherine, Owen, Edward, Mariam and Margaret. > > > The obituary raises the following questions, > > > 1. The deceased was born in "EASTER SNOW" near the town of Boyle. Any suggestion of where that might be? > > 2. left Ireland sailing from SLIGO on May 1, 1846, the journey took nine weeks before arriving at Montreal (Canada) > Would there be any information available such as passenger lists available for this time period? > > All suggestions sincerely appreciated. Pat H. > > > > > > > >

I have recently received a copy of an obituary for an EDWARD MURRAY, from earlier research I have found that: Edward was christened 13 August 1837 in the.R.C. parish of Killucan and Ballimaneen, he died 15 August 1813 in Stayner, Ontario, Canada. Edward was the son of Francis and Bridget Murray. From Canadian census records the family who left Ireland consisted of, Francis,Bridget and their children Catherine, Owen, Edward, Mariam and Margaret. The obituary raises the following questions, 1. The deceased was born in "EASTER SNOW" near the town of Boyle. Any suggestion of where that might be? 2. left Ireland sailing from SLIGO on May 1, 1846, the journey took nine weeks before arriving at Montreal (Canada) Would there be any information available such as passenger lists available for this time period? All suggestions sincerely appreciated. Pat H. -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 62682 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len

Hello Listers:? Looking for information re the John Bruen/Anne Farrell family of Churchhill (Killeen), Ardcarn Parish, Co. Roscommon.? They were born c. 1815 -1820. The family?was living in Churchhill?in the 1860s to 1880s.? John died 1888 in Churchhill; Anne in 1889 in Clooncloose (where she llived with daughter).??They had at least five children:? Bridget b c 1840, Margaret b 1845, Margaret (II) b 1854, Thomas b 1851,?Patrick b 1857, and John b 1860.? John and Margaret migrated to New Haven, CT.? Bridget married John O'Malia from Cleaheen (or Annagh), the son of John O'Malia on 30 Oct 1865. She stayed in Ireland; gave birth?to?ten children between 1868 and 1887? .??The family lived in and around Clooncoose, Ardcarn Parish. ? Do any of these names sound familar - - any connections?? Thanks. ? Bill Meehan ________________________________________________________________________ Email and AIM finally together. You've gotta check out free AOL Mail! - http://mail.aol.com

Thanks Jake for your response. Dede ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sheerin" <a5jaker4@comcast.net> To: <roscommon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 17, 2007 9:07 AM Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Country Roscommon Information] > Dede, > > Thanks for your Email. > > I have found many variations to the "Sheerin" name > and the most common are, Sheerin/Sheeran, Sherin, > Sherrin/Sherran, Sheevin/sheevin. I can't recall > seeing "Shevnan" in any of my research. > > As you know a lot of the name mis-spellings are from > the "foreign missionaries who came to Ireland > and their lack of knowledge of the Irish language. > In addition, the handwriting of the Census takers. > > Take care and good luck with your research. > > > Jake Sheerin > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Dede Dunn > To: roscommon@rootsweb.com > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:01 PM > Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Country Roscommon Information] > > > Have you come across any variations on your Sheerin name. > My great grandmother was Mary Shevnan. > Seen this name at all. > Thanks, > Dede Dunn > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dede, Thanks for your Email. I have found many variations to the "Sheerin" name and the most common are, Sheerin/Sheeran, Sherin, Sherrin/Sherran, Sheevin/sheevin. I can't recall seeing "Shevnan" in any of my research. As you know a lot of the name mis-spellings are from the "foreign missionaries who came to Ireland and their lack of knowledge of the Irish language. In addition, the handwriting of the Census takers. Take care and good luck with your research. Jake Sheerin ----- Original Message ----- From: Dede Dunn To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Country Roscommon Information] Have you come across any variations on your Sheerin name. My great grandmother was Mary Shevnan. Seen this name at all. Thanks, Dede Dunn

Have you come across any variations on your Sheerin name. My great grandmother was Mary Shevnan. Seen this name at all. Thanks, Dede Dunn ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Sheerin" <a5jaker4@comcast.net> To: <roscommon@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 11:31 AM Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Country Roscommon Information] > Teri, > > Thanks for your Email. > > My Sheerin's, starting with from my Grandfather > Jeremiah/Dermot Sheerin, have all live in the village > of Doon, outside of Boyle in Roscommon County. One of > my cousins told me that the "Doon" Sheerins all came > down from the Donegal area around 1775. I still have > 2nd/3rd cousins living in and around the Boyle area. > By the way, the name Sheerin has also been spelled > Sherin and Sheeran!! > > I maintain a big file on Sheerins and checked it for your > Hanoria Sheerin. I have 16 Honor/Honoria/Nora's in my > file but found only two "single" Hanoria Sheerin's and > they being; > > Hanoria Sheerin, Baptized at the Boyle Catholic Church > on 14 MAR 1805, her dad was James Sheerin. > > Hanoria Sheerin, Baptized at the Boyle Catholic Church > on 07 APR 1819, her dad was Patrick Sheerin. > > This information came from my research of the LDS > Genealogy files. > > Teri, I hope this helps you in your research. > > Take care and keep in contact. > > John (Jake) Sheerin > Annapolis, MD (Originally from Lowell MA) > > > > From: baycat@pacifier.com > To: a5jaker4@comcast.net > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:17 AM > Subject: [Fwd: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Country Roscommon Information] > > > First time I've noticed your Surname come through in connection with > County Roscommon. Have you traced the Sheerin to Roscommon? I have a > Hanora Sheerin who married George Gaffney (County Cavan) in New York abt > 1840. Have you run across this? > > Teri > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Teri, Thanks for your Email. My Sheerin's, starting with from my Grandfather Jeremiah/Dermot Sheerin, have all live in the village of Doon, outside of Boyle in Roscommon County. One of my cousins told me that the "Doon" Sheerins all came down from the Donegal area around 1775. I still have 2nd/3rd cousins living in and around the Boyle area. By the way, the name Sheerin has also been spelled Sherin and Sheeran!! I maintain a big file on Sheerins and checked it for your Hanoria Sheerin. I have 16 Honor/Honoria/Nora's in my file but found only two "single" Hanoria Sheerin's and they being; Hanoria Sheerin, Baptized at the Boyle Catholic Church on 14 MAR 1805, her dad was James Sheerin. Hanoria Sheerin, Baptized at the Boyle Catholic Church on 07 APR 1819, her dad was Patrick Sheerin. This information came from my research of the LDS Genealogy files. Teri, I hope this helps you in your research. Take care and keep in contact. John (Jake) Sheerin Annapolis, MD (Originally from Lowell MA) From: baycat@pacifier.com To: a5jaker4@comcast.net Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:17 AM Subject: [Fwd: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Country Roscommon Information] First time I've noticed your Surname come through in connection with County Roscommon. Have you traced the Sheerin to Roscommon? I have a Hanora Sheerin who married George Gaffney (County Cavan) in New York abt 1840. Have you run across this? Teri

John, Thank you for the prompt email response. Right now I am at work, so I don't have my family files. I need to take a look to get dates. I will drop you another email later. Teri Nashville via Washington State > Teri, > > Thanks for your Email. > > My Sheerin's, starting with from my Grandfather > Jeremiah/Dermot Sheerin, have all live in the village > of Doon, outside of Boyle in Roscommon County. One of > my cousins told me that the "Doon" Sheerins all came > down from the Donegal area around 1775. I still have > 2nd/3rd cousins living in and around the Boyle area. > By the way, the name Sheerin has also been spelled > Sherin and Sheeran!! > > I maintain a big file on Sheerins and checked it for your > Hanoria Sheerin. I have 16 Honor/Honoria/Nora's in my > file but found only two "single" Hanoria Sheerin's and > they being; > > Hanoria Sheerin, Baptized at the Boyle Catholic Church > on 14 MAR 1805, her dad was James Sheerin. > > Hanoria Sheerin, Baptized at the Boyle Catholic Church > on 07 APR 1819, her dad was Patrick Sheerin. > > This information came from my research of the LDS > Genealogy files. > > Teri, I hope this helps you in your research. > > Take care and keep in contact. > > John (Jake) Sheerin > Annapolis, MD (Originally from Lowell MA) > > > > From: baycat@pacifier.com > To: a5jaker4@comcast.net > Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2007 10:17 AM > Subject: [Fwd: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Country Roscommon Information] > > > First time I've noticed your Surname come through in connection with > County Roscommon. Have you traced the Sheerin to Roscommon? I have a > Hanora Sheerin who married George Gaffney (County Cavan) in New York abt > 1840. Have you run across this? > > Teri > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROSCOMMON-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

George, Thanks for your quick response.. John (Jake) Sheerin Annapolis, MD

It's been nine years since I was last there, but I think the National Genealogy Society is located on Kildare Street in Dublin. The map agency (forgot the name) is out in Phoenix Park and I would take a taxi, but that too is expensive. The General Records Office is at 8-11 Lombard Street. The Genealogy Society and the GRO are within ten minutes walking distance of each other. The National Library is also a ten minute walk, but unfortunately I cannot remember the street that it is on. I got around in Dublin by walking ( I like to walk), other than for the maps at Phoenix Park. George ************************************** See what's new at http://www.aol.com

George, In regard to your recommendations below, where is "The National Genealogy Society" in Dublin located??? Thanks and enjoyed your email. Jake Sheerin My recommendations: 1. Do everything you can through the Mormon capabilities before you go 2. If you go, first spend about two days in Dublin researching at: a. The Irish National Genealogy Society b. The General Records Office c. The National Library d. The map office at Phoenix Park (very expensive) From: GWGEHoyt@aol.com To: roscommon@rootsweb.com Cc: fmcgreevy@sbcglobal.net Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2007 1:03 PM Subject: [ROSCOMMON] Country Roscommon Information George, In regard to your recommendations below, where is "The National Genealogy Society" in Dublin located??? Thanks and enjoyed your email. Jake Sheerin My recommendations: 1. Do everything you can through the Mormon capabilities before you go 2. If you go, first spend about two days in Dublin researching at: a. The Irish National Genealogy Society b. The General Records Office c. The National Library d. The map office at Phoenix Park (very expensive) 3. Then spend the rest of your time enjoying and immersing yourself into the Country Roscommon atmosphere and lifestyle of today. If you have cousins, you will find them to be the most wonderful people on the face of the earth !!! George Hoyt