I've been looking for site's that have picture's from around Roscommon. I'm surprised that I've found very few photos. Does anyone know of sites with photos of Roscommon County. I think its basically a farming area. Just curious. You see Blarney Castle and the Ring of Kerry all the time. I have many videos with all the Counties but not Roscommon. God Bless you and yours God Bless America Gail

Tons of photographs on the Roscommon database. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ Enjoy. Don ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 9:22 PM Subject: [ROSCOMMON] Sources for Photo's of Roscommon County > I've been looking for site's that have picture's from around Roscommon. I'm > surprised that I've found very few photos. > Does anyone know of sites with photos of Roscommon County. I think its > basically a farming area. > Just curious. You see Blarney Castle and the Ring of Kerry all the time. I > have many videos with all the Counties but not Roscommon. > > God Bless you and yours > God Bless America > Gail > > > ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== > Did your ancestors own land in Roscommon in 1871? Find out at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/returnof.htm > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.449 / Virus Database: 251 - Release Date: 1/27/03

Thanx Karen. I'll look fwd to your efforts. Gerry Grady

Gerry, As I said in my post, this is not my family, but Mary and Bridget married our direct ancestor's siblings. I will copy your message and send it to the elder lady who shared the Murphy info with me. Mary Murphy was her mother. Karen Klaene Cincinnati, OH ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, February 10, 2003 8:01 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [ROSCOMMON] MURPHY'S from Ballyleague , Co.Roscommon The recent inquiry about Peter Murphy & Ann Burns is so close to the families I'm researching that there must be a connection. Patrick Murphy from Ballyleague m.Annie Hanley & have two sons I know of. (I) Michael m. Honora Dempsey 1848-1924 Children: (1) John Murphy 1871-1947 m.Kathleen McDonnall <had John 1909-1958 m.Mary Kilduff, Michael to Australia, Kathleen 1908-1962 m.Duncan McIntyre went to Scotland , Elizabeth m.Harry Cooper & Austin Flower , Michael , Molly 1905-1991 m.Frederick Webster 1905-1940> (2) James , (3) Patrick 1864 m.Mary Kilcore b.Tubercurry d.1896 <Mamie 1892 USA-1985 m.USA Harry Scott ; James Murphy 1896 USA- 1977 Ballyleague ,(4) Thomas 1865-1911 m.Aliceta Rowan d.1906<John 1894 USA- , Elizabeth 1895 USA-1900 , Mary Eliz. 1896 USA-1951 , Thomas 1898 USA-1976> , Henora 1868-1940 USA m.Richard Kerwin & David Wright , John 1871-1947 Scotland , Mary Anne 1873-1959 , Michael 1876-1959 m.Winifred Murphy d.1964 , Eliz. 1879-1956. (II) Martin Murphy 1828 m.Catherine Ratigan b.1838 < had Andrew m.Annie Gill d.1927 Gortgallen , Margaret b.1884-1945 m.Michael Scott b.1890-1982 , Katherine , William b.1866 Ballyleague d.USA , James , Martin , John b.1864-d.USA and Bridgette who came to USA with her brothers & i heard she married Mr.Sutton from Philadelphia. Does any of this sound familiar? Gerry Grady , 100 Surrey Lane , Ponte Vedra Beach , FL 32082 ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== ROSCOMMON-L searchable archives ROSCOMMON-L threaded archivesGet more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

The recent inquiry about Peter Murphy & Ann Burns is so close to the families I'm researching that there must be a connection. Patrick Murphy from Ballyleague m.Annie Hanley & have two sons I know of. (I) Michael m. Honora Dempsey 1848-1924 Children: (1) John Murphy 1871-1947 m.Kathleen McDonnall <had John 1909-1958 m.Mary Kilduff, Michael to Australia, Kathleen 1908-1962 m.Duncan McIntyre went to Scotland , Elizabeth m.Harry Cooper & Austin Flower , Michael , Molly 1905-1991 m.Frederick Webster 1905-1940> (2) James , (3) Patrick 1864 m.Mary Kilcore b.Tubercurry d.1896 <Mamie 1892 USA-1985 m.USA Harry Scott ; James Murphy 1896 USA- 1977 Ballyleague ,(4) Thomas 1865-1911 m.Aliceta Rowan d.1906<John 1894 USA- , Elizabeth 1895 USA-1900 , Mary Eliz. 1896 USA-1951 , Thomas 1898 USA-1976> , Henora 1868-1940 USA m.Richard Kerwin & David Wright , John 1871-1947 Scotland , Mary Anne 1873-1959 , Michael 1876-1959 m.Winifred Murphy d.1964 , Eliz. 1879-1956. (II) Martin Murphy 1828 m.Catherine Ratigan b.1838 < had Andrew m.Annie Gill d.1927 Gortgallen , Margaret b.1884-1945 m.Michael Scott b.1890-1982 , Katherine , William b.1866 Ballyleague d.USA , James , Martin , John b.1864-d.USA and Bridgette who came to USA with her brothers & i heard she married Mr.Sutton from Philadelphia. Does any of this sound familiar? Gerry Grady , 100 Surrey Lane , Ponte Vedra Beach , FL 32082

I do not descend from Murphy family but have a friend who does, and this Murphy family married siblings of my direct line. Thought I would post info on this family as it does supply specific birth dates. He married ANN BURNS Unknown. She was born Unknown in County Roscommon, Ireland, and died Unknown in ?. Children of PETER MURPHY and ANN BURNS are: i. MARY2 MURPHY, b. January 25, 1886, Bally League, County Roscommon, Ireland, baptized St. Mary's Church Bally League, Diocese of Elphin, Parish of Kilgefinensis.; d. July 26, 1935, Cincinnati Hamilton County, Ohio, buried New St. Joseph's Cem.; m. JOSEPH BRADHOLD, November 19, 1913, ?; b. February 16, 1886, Covington, Kenton County, Kentucky; d. December 17, 1949, Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio, buried New St. Joseph's Cem.. JAMES MURPHY, b. June 30, 1887, County Roscommon, Ireland; d. Unknown, United States of America?. iii. PATRICK MURPHY, b. February 03, 1891, County Roscommon, Ireland; d. Unknown, ?. JOHN MURPHY, b. December 12, 1892, County Roscommon, Ireland; d. Unknown, United States of America?. v. BRIDGETT "BEA" MURPHY, b. December 25, 1895, County Roscommon, Ireland; baptized St. Mary's Church Bally League, Diocese of Elphin, Parish of Kilgefinensis d. May 08, 1935, Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio; m. WILLIAM BRADHOLD, October 1932; b. January 26, 1894, Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio; d. June 15, 1930, Cincinnati, Hamilton County, Ohio. Karen Klaene ----- Original Message ----- From: Nancy Harwood Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 2:28 PM To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ROSCOMMON] Athlone > Recent correspondence on Athlone brought to mind my ancestor. He was a soldier in the British Army and I know he served in Cork at some time. He married and Irish lass, but I do not know her place of birth or their date and place of marriage. Which brings me to Athlone. After he left the army they lived for a short while in Mount Talbot, Roscommon, which is not too far from Athlone. I have read that Athlone was a garrison town - would British soldiers (he was in the Royal Engineers) have been stationed there in the 1860s? Are there marriage records, although I found nothing in the Dublin GRO. > Vicki > My husband's great-grandfather, Daniel Joseph Hutchinson, was also a British soldier, family legend says "a Galway man" -- he was a lieutenant in an East Kent regiment called "The Buffs." He was married at Kilteevan to Margaret Morris. Roscommon was one of the places his regiment was stationed -- Clonmel was another -- it was in Clonmel that my husband's grandfather was born. Another duty station was Santamaura (no real clue where that was). In the mid-1860s the family was back in Roscommon -- possibly because he had retired from the army. Although his wife and children were Catholics, he apparently was Church of Ireland -- he and his wife are buried iin the churchyard of St. Coman's in Roscommon. I'd be very interested in hearing from anyone who might be researching any of these families, or who has any information on The Buffs. Nancy Harwood Houston, TX ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== This mailing list is for anyone with ancestors in County Roscommon. IGP Roscommon DATABASE: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ IGP Project: http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/Get more from the Web. FREE MSN Explorer download : http://explorer.msn.com

All the records of the Army (until 1922) including the hundreds of thousands of Irish in the army are kept in the Public Record Office at Kew, near London. There is an excellent site and an extraordinary catalogue for their "9 million files on ninety miles of shelves" ! online at http://www.pro.gov.uk/default.htm Most of the army records are organised by regiment so that is the first thing you need to know in any research. The amount of information available is very variable but in about half the cases you can find either enlistment or discharge papers which may include a place and date of birth, a physical description, an account of career, intended place of residence after discharge. Athlone was a garrison town at a militarily strategic position. Unlike some Irish towns there was always a regiment or two based in Athlone. Richard Callanan, London, England. -----Original Message----- From: Nancy Harwood [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 08 February 2003 19:18 To: [email protected] Subject: RE: [ROSCOMMON] Athlone > Recent correspondence on Athlone brought to mind my ancestor. He was a soldier in the British Army and I know he served in Cork at some time. He married and Irish lass, but I do not know her place of birth or their date and place of marriage. Which brings me to Athlone. After he left the army they lived for a short while in Mount Talbot, Roscommon, which is not too far from Athlone. I have read that Athlone was a garrison town - would British soldiers (he was in the Royal Engineers) have been stationed there in the 1860s? Are there marriage records, although I found nothing in the Dublin GRO. > Vicki > My husband's great-grandfather, Daniel Joseph Hutchinson, was also a British soldier, family legend says "a Galway man" -- he was a lieutenant in an East Kent regiment called "The Buffs." He was married at Kilteevan to Margaret Morris. Roscommon was one of the places his regiment was stationed -- Clonmel was another -- it was in Clonmel that my husband's grandfather was born. Another duty station was Santamaura (no real clue where that was). In the mid-1860s the family was back in Roscommon -- possibly because he had retired from the army. Although his wife and children were Catholics, he apparently was Church of Ireland -- he and his wife are buried iin the churchyard of St. Coman's in Roscommon. I'd be very interested in hearing from anyone who might be researching any of these families, or who has any information on The Buffs. Nancy Harwood Houston, TX ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== This mailing list is for anyone with ancestors in County Roscommon. IGP Roscommon DATABASE: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ IGP Project: http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/

Catherine Ratigan m.Martin Murphy b.1828 Co.Rosc (s/o Patrick & Anne Hanley) and had (1)Andrew b.1828 m.Annie Gill d.1927 Irl (2) Margaret 1884-1945 m.Michael Scott 1890-1982 , who had Kathleen 1921-1983, Una 1922 , Michael 1923-1968, Eamon 1925 , (3) Katherine , (4) William b.30 Jun 1866 Ballyleague d.USA, (5)James , (6) Martin b.Ballyleague d.USA , (7) John b.24 Jun 1864 Ballyleague d.USA , (8)Bridgette m. Mr.Sutton in USA. Andrew Murphy & Annie Gill had (1)Margaret 1919 m.Michael Hopkins & lived in Cloonfower, Lanesboro , (2) Mary Kate b.1917 m. Timothy Donlon & lived in Gortgallen,Lanesboro and(3) Bridie b.1921 m. James Mullooly who has a son running the farm near Lanesboro. Does this tie into anyone? Gerry Grady

Vicki I know there are extant military records available. I just don't have the references you need because I didn't keep them. They didn't apply to my own family. The military records are of course English, and as I recall from our Lists some of these are kept in London. Just where, I don't know. Information may also be gathered from Pension Lists. Lots of young Irish lads joined the English army to have a job. The PRO or Public Records Office comes to mind but, again, I did not keep the data. Why not write a short, focussed query for the List (s) you belong to and ask specifically for the URL's for such sources, in England and in Ireland? Best, Rosemary ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vicki Smith" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, February 18, 2003 7:40 AM Subject: [ROSCOMMON] Athlone > Recent correspondence on Athlone brought to mind my ancestor. He was a soldier in the British Army and I know he served in Cork at some time. He married and Irish lass, but I do not know her place of birth or their date and place of marriage. Which brings me to Athlone. After he left the army they lived for a short while in Mount Talbot, Roscommon, which is not too far from Athlone. I have read that Athlone was a garrison town - would British soldiers (he was in the Royal Engineers) have been stationed there in the 1860s? Are there marriage records, although I found nothing in the Dublin GRO. > > Vicki > > > ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== > Were your ancestors in Roscommon/Connaught criminals? Find out at: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/criminal_files/criminal_a_b.htm >

> Recent correspondence on Athlone brought to mind my ancestor. He was a soldier in the British Army and I know he served in Cork at some time. He married and Irish lass, but I do not know her place of birth or their date and place of marriage. Which brings me to Athlone. After he left the army they lived for a short while in Mount Talbot, Roscommon, which is not too far from Athlone. I have read that Athlone was a garrison town - would British soldiers (he was in the Royal Engineers) have been stationed there in the 1860s? Are there marriage records, although I found nothing in the Dublin GRO. > Vicki > My husband's great-grandfather, Daniel Joseph Hutchinson, was also a British soldier, family legend says "a Galway man" -- he was a lieutenant in an East Kent regiment called "The Buffs." He was married at Kilteevan to Margaret Morris. Roscommon was one of the places his regiment was stationed -- Clonmel was another -- it was in Clonmel that my husband's grandfather was born. Another duty station was Santamaura (no real clue where that was). In the mid-1860s the family was back in Roscommon -- possibly because he had retired from the army. Although his wife and children were Catholics, he apparently was Church of Ireland -- he and his wife are buried iin the churchyard of St. Coman's in Roscommon. I'd be very interested in hearing from anyone who might be researching any of these families, or who has any information on The Buffs. Nancy Harwood Houston, TX

If anyone would be getting the lds film for st peters and paul in athelone, i would appreciate them letting me know. I am not able to go to LDS sites- and I do need some (not much) info on Tansey family from there. Thanks- linda ([email protected])

Diane (and Kay, Sam, and other interested Listers) Here it is. Diane's research adds substantially to our knowledge and understanding of the relationship between Kiltoom and Athlone. Her family story also gives a human dimension to these places--which COULD be the sites for my Rattigans. I will be posting them separately. Best, Rosemary ---- Original Message ----- To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2003 4:15 PM Subject: Re Parish of Kiltoom vs. Athlone, Co. Roscommon > Hi Rosemary, > I was reading your note on the Roscommon listserv and thought I'd help clarify something about Kiltoom vs. Athlone parishes in the Counties Roscommon and Westmeath. I am writing only to you, but feel free to share with others if you so choose. > > My own family, great-grandfather and great-grandmother,came from St. John's parish and Kiltoom parish, respectively. St. John's is the next parish north along the main road towards Roscommon town. The families had many dealing in Athlone and often went to Mass in Athlone at St. Peter's and Drum parish. So I've been priviledged to do detailed research in this area over the last five years. Hope this helps. > > The Local Government (Ireland) Acts of 1898, placed the whole city of Athlone, both sides of the river firmly in County Westmeath for governmantal administrative purposes. (Even today though, when writing to a cousin on the Roscommon side, I am instructed to address it to "Athlone, Co. Roscommon".:) > > However, the Catholic parishes were and remain separate on each side of the river. The Athlone [and in the 1800s included Drum] parish was and is St. Peter's (old and new churches)RC Church on the Co. Roscommon (Connaught province) side of the Shannon River. The LDS film of Parochial registers of St. Peter's, Athlone and Drum, 1789-1881 is #989750. > > On the Co. Westmeath (Leinster province) side, St. Mary's was and is the RC parish on that side of the Shannon River. LDS film for the Parochial registers of St. Mary's Athlone (Westmeath), 1813-1984 is 1279225 and 1279226, split between baptisms and marriages. > > Just by the way, in town there was and is a Franciscan friary with it's own chapel. In days gone by, many rural folks from the surrounding area made a point of going to Confession at the Friars while they were in town doing their shopping because going to the Friars instead of their own local parish priest (P.P.) insured a certain annonymity.:) > > The parish of Kiltoom (historically was Kiltoom and Cam at one time) was and is a completely separate Roman Catholic parish of its own with the church located at Ballybay townland just off the main Athlone-Roscommon Road. The LDS film of the Parochial registers of Kiltoom and Cam, 1835-1865 is #09897512. > > Here's a quote from the Athlone site: "The Connaught side was a hive of bustling activity with St. Peters at the epicentre in the Square. St. Peter's church was originally on the Dean Crowe Theatre site. It was built in two phases, the first as early as 1795 when it would have been no more than a small chapel; it was then enlarged in 1809. This building served as the parish church until the completion of SS. Peter & Paul's church in the Square in 1937 under the stewardship of Dean John Crowe. We know that the priory of Saints Peter and Paul existed at Athlone before 1200. There is a tradition, recorded by a seventeenth century author, that Toirrdelbach Ua Conchobair founded it about 1150, as part of a twelfth century ecclesiastical reform movement." > > Enjoy and all the best > Diane Rose Dunnigan > Descendent of St. John's and Kiltoom Parish families > > > >

Dear Diane What a courteous and helpful message regarding Kiltoom and Athlone. Thank you for sending it to me OffList first. But I will take you at your word and Forward it to the List to share with others. It is packed with important research information. Because of length I am sending it next, "under separate cover," as they say, and because I don't want to paraphrase or tamper with any of your data. I am very impressed with the quality and substance of your research about Kiltoom and Athlone. You have given us a real hands-up. I have printed out 4 copies: a clean one for my files, another for my briefcase to take to the LDS, a third for "marking up," and the 4th for a "spare." Forward will arrive next OnList. With gratitude, Rosemary

Rosemary, Thank You for your help.......I will get the microfilm ordered and you have helped me a lot on understanding Althone.....I didn't have much to go on and have written to Ireland and they told me that there was more here in the United States I needed to fill in some gaps......Thanks again........ Kay Nebraska "Mchsi.com" wrote: > Kaye > > A map would be your best ally here. > > My understanding is that Frenchpark is located all the way north, near > Boyle, in CoRoscommon. Athlone lies all the way south in longitude and (just > to confuse us) now belongs in CoWestmeath. To date, I have been able to > piece together these facts: > > 1) At some point Athlone seems to have belonged inside CoRoscommon. But the > County boundaries must have shifted and today the Shannon River defines the > eastern boundary of CoRoscommon along much of its length. This puts Athlone > on the other side of the Shannon; and so it now belongs in CoWestmeath. > [However, "Athlone" is still the name of the Poor Law Union for both towns, > e.g.] > > 2.) St. Peter's used to be the RC Parish for Kiltoom, Roscommon, a 5-minute > walk across the bridge from Athlone. But in the later 19th c., St. Peter's > was closed and the parish was merged by the Diocese with St. Peter's and > Paul's in Athlone. It is likely that the Parish Records from the old St. > Peter's in Kiltoom are held at St. Peter and Paul's in Athlone, > CoWestmeath.[Are you following all this?] > > 3.) For local color (and for your map search), both Kiltoom, CoRoscommon and > Athlone, CoWestmeath lie on the same road which runs from Galway Bay on the > Atlantic all the way to Dublin on Ireland's east coast. Athlone was always a > sizeable market town. And with its strategic location it traditionally > accommodated military personnel in barracks, etc., in case this is relevant > to your family. > > 4.) Now the question is: with your family dates and your new-found maps in > hand, where do you search for your ancestors? Well, the old St. Peter's > parish records have been microfilmed and are available at your local Family > History Center of the LDS. You can order them there, free of charge except > for postage and shipping from Salt Lake City, Utah. I pay about $3.50 per > tape. > > 5.) Another reource is to see the original records at St. Peter's and St. > Paul's in Athlone. But it is best to write ahead if you are planning to > visit Ireland to make sure the Records are there. A donation to the Parish > Priest for his trouble is also in order. > > Then there are always the heritage centers to help, although it will cost > you more. > > Best of luck, > > Rosemary > Maryland [Mer-a-lin], USA > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kay McConkey" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:25 PM > Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Duggan/Oates--Roscommon > > > I have a Maria Oates that was born around 1791 at a place or town near > > Althone, Roscommon..She married Thomas Duggan(not sure where he was born) > or > > when they were married and as far as we figured out and also there was an > > newspaper article about her living to be over 100 years of age in the > Iowa > > paper...She said they came to the United States around 1850 with 4 > > children,Thomas Jr,Catherine,Michael,Mary Ann(My Great Grandmother) and > these > > children we have found out were Bapisted in the St. Peters Parish.... > > Is Frenchpark close to Althone?? > > Kay McConkey > > Nebraska > > > > [email protected] wrote: > > > > > My great-grandfather Michael Oates married Catherine Moffett. The > Oateses > > > lived near Frenchpark in Roscommon. They were probabIy born aound 1825. > My > > > father and several siblings came to the US in the 1920s. I would be > most > > > interested in hearing from any possible Oates connections. > > > > > > Francis Oates > > > St Louis MO US > > > > > > ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== > > > This mailing list is for anyone with ancestors in County Roscommon. > > > IGP Roscommon DATABASE: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ > > > IGP Project: http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/ > > > > > > ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== > > Add your Genealogy website for Roscommon or Connaught here. > > Contact listadmin at: [email protected] > > Bring more visitors to your webpage. > > > > ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== > ROSCOMMON-L searchable archives > ROSCOMMON-L threaded archives

Charlie, No, Blanche Oatman was not a daughter. Nor a granddaughter. Having worked with the Rhode Island index of BMD, I know the "Kin" lines often make no sense or have any relavancy to the subject person. If the entry lists s.of or d.of or w.of , you have a better chance of having found a relative! Thanks for the suggestion. Michael O'Beirne (Burns) and Ann Doyle's children were: Margaret Mary William James ----- Original Message ----- From: "Charles Brown" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 5:59 PM Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] O'BEIRNE > Loree: > Could Blanche be a daughter who married an Oatman? > Charlie Brown > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:31 PM > Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] O'BEIRNE > > > > > Michael O'Beirne > > > Died 5/30/1913 age 61 years > > > Kin1 Charles.D.Oatman > > > Kin 2 Blanche Oatman > > > > Thank you for looking. I do have his death record. No idea who the > Oatman > > people are -- probably some names just ahead or in back of his in the > > records books... who knows? On the actual record, the parents' names > are > > left blank. The parents as Thomas and Margaret show up on his marriage > > record. > > > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:22 AM > > Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] O'BEIRNE > > > > > > ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== > > Connaught: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcnn/ > > Leitrim: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllet/ > > Galway: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlgal2/ > > > > > ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== > Connaught: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcnn/ > Leitrim: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllet/ > Galway: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlgal2/ > >

My sincerest apologies for the message re the redneck photos. Hit the wrong address. Very embarrassing. Ann

[email protected] writes: > Just a thought . . . the Mormons normally made microfilm copies of the > records . . . I have not seen computerized printouts of anything they > did in Ireland, except on the British Isles Vital Records Index, a 16 CD > collection that can be obtained from their web page at a very reasonable > price You can search these online now, at www.familysearch.org They have a lot of other resources at that site also. Regards, Tamy

Loree: Could Blanche be a daughter who married an Oatman? Charlie Brown ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 2:31 PM Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] O'BEIRNE > > Michael O'Beirne > > Died 5/30/1913 age 61 years > > Kin1 Charles.D.Oatman > > Kin 2 Blanche Oatman > > Thank you for looking. I do have his death record. No idea who the Oatman > people are -- probably some names just ahead or in back of his in the > records books... who knows? On the actual record, the parents' names are > left blank. The parents as Thomas and Margaret show up on his marriage > record. > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 10:22 AM > Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] O'BEIRNE > > > ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== > Connaught: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcnn/ > Leitrim: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irllet/ > Galway: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlgal2/ >

Kaye A map would be your best ally here. My understanding is that Frenchpark is located all the way north, near Boyle, in CoRoscommon. Athlone lies all the way south in longitude and (just to confuse us) now belongs in CoWestmeath. To date, I have been able to piece together these facts: 1) At some point Athlone seems to have belonged inside CoRoscommon. But the County boundaries must have shifted and today the Shannon River defines the eastern boundary of CoRoscommon along much of its length. This puts Athlone on the other side of the Shannon; and so it now belongs in CoWestmeath. [However, "Athlone" is still the name of the Poor Law Union for both towns, e.g.] 2.) St. Peter's used to be the RC Parish for Kiltoom, Roscommon, a 5-minute walk across the bridge from Athlone. But in the later 19th c., St. Peter's was closed and the parish was merged by the Diocese with St. Peter's and Paul's in Athlone. It is likely that the Parish Records from the old St. Peter's in Kiltoom are held at St. Peter and Paul's in Athlone, CoWestmeath.[Are you following all this?] 3.) For local color (and for your map search), both Kiltoom, CoRoscommon and Athlone, CoWestmeath lie on the same road which runs from Galway Bay on the Atlantic all the way to Dublin on Ireland's east coast. Athlone was always a sizeable market town. And with its strategic location it traditionally accommodated military personnel in barracks, etc., in case this is relevant to your family. 4.) Now the question is: with your family dates and your new-found maps in hand, where do you search for your ancestors? Well, the old St. Peter's parish records have been microfilmed and are available at your local Family History Center of the LDS. You can order them there, free of charge except for postage and shipping from Salt Lake City, Utah. I pay about $3.50 per tape. 5.) Another reource is to see the original records at St. Peter's and St. Paul's in Athlone. But it is best to write ahead if you are planning to visit Ireland to make sure the Records are there. A donation to the Parish Priest for his trouble is also in order. Then there are always the heritage centers to help, although it will cost you more. Best of luck, Rosemary Maryland [Mer-a-lin], USA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kay McConkey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 4:25 PM Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] Duggan/Oates--Roscommon > I have a Maria Oates that was born around 1791 at a place or town near > Althone, Roscommon..She married Thomas Duggan(not sure where he was born) or > when they were married and as far as we figured out and also there was an > newspaper article about her living to be over 100 years of age in the Iowa > paper...She said they came to the United States around 1850 with 4 > children,Thomas Jr,Catherine,Michael,Mary Ann(My Great Grandmother) and these > children we have found out were Bapisted in the St. Peters Parish.... > Is Frenchpark close to Althone?? > Kay McConkey > Nebraska > > [email protected] wrote: > > > My great-grandfather Michael Oates married Catherine Moffett. The Oateses > > lived near Frenchpark in Roscommon. They were probabIy born aound 1825. My > > father and several siblings came to the US in the 1920s. I would be most > > interested in hearing from any possible Oates connections. > > > > Francis Oates > > St Louis MO US > > > > ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== > > This mailing list is for anyone with ancestors in County Roscommon. > > IGP Roscommon DATABASE: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/ > > IGP Project: http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/ > > > ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== > Add your Genealogy website for Roscommon or Connaught here. > Contact listadmin at: [email protected] > Bring more visitors to your webpage. >

Please excuse me for sending a personal message via the list. I should have checked the return address and didn't. Fran Weeks