Hello Jan. No information on your Gallagher but it seems Florence is not unusual for a male in Ireland - I visited a cousin of my father's last year in South Cork and was surprised to find his name was Florence, which is probably exclusively male in this country. Regards, Patsy (which is often a male name in Ireland, so there you are!). ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jan Guiliano" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2003 11:23 AM Subject: [ROSCOMMON] Gallagher 1830 - 1860 > Looking for information on FLORENCE GALLAGHER (male) b. @ 1829, m. Bridget > O'REILLY b. 2/1826, emigrated to US around 1850's to Bureau Co, IL. Children > John. William, Florence, Mary, Catherine, Delia. all born in U.S. The first > name seems unusual for a male, but haven't been able to find him in any > Irish Records. Has anyone found him lurking in a branch of their tree? > > > > [email protected] > > _________________________________________________________________ > Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== > Ballykinlar Prison Book online: > http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/Ballykinlar/intro.htm > >

Looking for information on FLORENCE GALLAGHER (male) b. @ 1829, m. Bridget O'REILLY b. 2/1826, emigrated to US around 1850's to Bureau Co, IL. Children John. William, Florence, Mary, Catherine, Delia. all born in U.S. The first name seems unusual for a male, but haven't been able to find him in any Irish Records. Has anyone found him lurking in a branch of their tree? [email protected] _________________________________________________________________ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Sorry -- the correct film no. is 1871715 Bristol County, Massachusetts, Naturalizations - Petitions and Records Loree Muldowney MULDOWNEY DNA Project Administrator, http://www.familytreedna.com/

I copied these naturalization records from Naturalization, Petitions and Records of Bristol County, Massachusetts. I don't know any more about these people. (FHL 2050620) MICHAEL McHUGH, res. Providence, Carder, b. Co. Roscommon, 1821, arrived New York City 12 Oct 1842; Declaration of intention, Supreme Court, Rhode Island 19 March 1845. Naturalized 7 March 1850. Witnesses: Peleg Johnson; Nathaniel Stevens. PATRICK FARRELL, res. Providence, laborer, b. Co. Roscommon. Arrived US 1838. 12 years + in RI. Declaration Supreme Ct. of Rhode Island 18 December 1847. Naturalized March 1851. Witnesses: Lawrence Fallon; John B. Hennessey Loree Muldowney MULDOWNEY DNA Project Administrator, http://www.familytreedna.com/

I copied these naturalization records from Naturalization, Petitions and Records of Bristol County, Massachusetts. I don't know any more about these people. (FHL 2050620) PATRICK DONNELLY, res. Norton, laborer, b. Ballinore, Co. Roscommon, 1 March 1824, now about 24 years. Arrived 28 May 1845. Declaration of intention, Common Pleas, Bristol Co. 7 February 1851. Lived in Norton 5yrs + . Witnesses: Thomas McCaffrey; James Conaty. THOMAS MURRY, res. Somerset, b. Penhurn, Co. Roscommon, 10 December 1830, now about 22 yrs. Arrived Boston, 26 Oct 1847, a minor under the age of 18yrs; lives 5 yrs in Somerset. Witnesses: Avery P. Slade; Nathan W. Shaw. Loree Muldowney MULDOWNEY DNA Project Administrator, http://www.familytreedna.com/

I copied these naturalization records from Naturalization, Petitions and Records of Bristol County, Massachusetts. I don't know any more about these people. (FHL 2050620) MICHAEL MURPHY, laborer, resident of Taunton, b. Castlecoote, Co. Roscommon, 16 September 1815, now about 31 years, Arrived New York, NY, 8 July 1836. Naturalized Court of Common Pleas, Bristol Co. at Taunton, Mass. 2nd Monday March 1847. JOHN FINNERAN, r. Fall River, b. Athlone, Co. Roscommon, 24 June 1823, now about 23 years, arrived New York, NY, 19 May 1843; Declaration of intention, Ct. of Common Pleas, Taunton, Sept. term 1846. Naturalized same court, 2nd Monday of September 1848. Witnesses: James Swarner; Michael Livesay. Loree Muldowney MULDOWNEY DNA Project Administrator, http://www.familytreedna.com/

I copied these naturalization records from Naturalization, Petitions and Records of Bristol County, Massachusetts. I don't know any more about these people. (FHL 2050620) JOHN McLAUGHLIN, res. Taunton, b. Mt. Talbot, Co. Roscommon, 2 Feb. 1813, now about 36 yrs. Arrived Boston 17 June 1834; Declaration of intention, Common Pleas, Taunton, 2nd Monday of March 1847. Naturalized 2nd Monday of March 1849. Witnesses: James McLaughlin; Michael McLaughlin WILLIAM McLAUGHLIN, res. Taunton, b. Olenlaughlin, Co. Roscommon 1 Nov 1826, now about 27 years; arrived NY 2 Sep 1845. Declaration of intention, Common Pleas for Bristol Co., 15 March 1851. (now abt. 25 yrs; 5yrs+ in Taunton) . Naturalized 2nd Monday March 1853. Witnesses: John Mannion; Michael McLaughlin JOHN MANNION, res. Taunton, b. Corlay, Co. Roscommon, 7 April 1812, now about 36 yrs; arrived New York NY 9 may 1839; Declaration of intention, Court of Common Pleas, Taunton, Sept term 1846. Resided Taunton since arrival. Witnesses: James Gillespie, James McLaughlin. MICHAEL McDONOUGH, res. Taunton, b. Furty, Co. Roscommon, 14 June 1814, now about 37 yrs. Arrived NY 18 may 1840. Declaration of intention, Common Pleas, Taunton, 2nd Monday March 1849. Witnesses: John Mannion; Patrick Keaney Loree Muldowney MULDOWNEY DNA Project Administrator, http://www.familytreedna.com/

Deirdre, No, I don't. The only record I have of Catherine Flanagan is from her children's birth records. I very badly need a marriage or birth record of hers. Actually, I don't have Edward Morris's parents either. Appreciate your interest. Miriam

Hi Janet, Unfortunately, I do not have anything to go by to approximate a birth date for Catherine Flanagan. In case I couldn't find a birth record, I was hoping to find a marriage record which would probably show who her parents were. I have the birth record of 3 of the children you sent me. The mother listed for Morriss, Mariae, the second child on the list you sent me is Annae Flanagan, possibly a sister of my Catherine. I also have a record of birth for my grandmother, Mary Ellen Morris, born January 15, 1866 to Edward Morris & Catherine Flanagan. Do you have that? The record I have of John is a marriage record. Edward Morris died Dec 23, 1878 and his age was listed as 50 which would put his birth around 1928. Perhaps that would help. Thank you so much for trying to help. I really appreciate you taking your time to do this. Best Regards, Miriam

Hi Tony, I'm also researching Gatelys, would you have a John Gately. Came to US and settled in Jersey City, New Jersey. He was from Ireland born 1840 and married an Ellen ?. Thanks Teri Mourn all the loses there are many Celebrate all the victories there are few.

In a message dated 19/06/2003 16:39:01 GMT Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: > I have Catherine Connelly m. Thomas McComack c1870. They lived in Derreen, > (across the River Suck from Ballyforan). Hello Janice, Sorry for the delay. Your mail referred to a Connelly m McComack combination. I cannot find a reliable connection. However, your mail (Re. 1901 census) lead me to a Connelly / Fallon relationship which is very encouraging. The Fallon's most definitely married into the Connolly family (I have photos of a Margaret Fallon + children (C 1920). Thank you for your comments. Perhaps we could stay in 'genealogy' touch, on or off line? Tony, in Wales.

Hi Miriam- Do you know the approximate year for Catherine Flanagans birth?? Janet It seems you must have these, but do not see a John! MORRIS, Anna Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 31 Jul 1859 Recorded in: Loughglynn, Roscommon, Ireland Collection: Roman Catholic Father: Edvardo MORRIS Mother: Catherinae FLANAGAN Source: FHL Film 989753 Dates: 1849 - 1863 MORRISS, Mariae Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 12 Apr 1859 Recorded in: Loughglynn, Roscommon, Ireland Collection: Roman Catholic Father: Edvardo MORRISS Mother: Annae FLANAGAN Source: FHL Film 989753 Dates: 1849 - 1863 MORRIS, Brigida Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 4 Jun 1861 Recorded in: Loughglynn, Roscommon, Ireland Collection: Roman Catholic Father: Edvardo MORRIS Mother: Catharina FLANAGAN Source: FHL Film 989753 Dates: 1849 - 1863 MORRIS, Catherina Christening Gender: Female Christening Date: 15 Dec 1861 Recorded in: Loughglynn, Roscommon, Ireland Collection: Roman Catholic Father: Edvardo MORRIS Mother: Catherina FLANAGAN Source: FHL Film 989753 Dates: 1849 - 1863 _________________________________________________________________ Add photos to your messages with MSN 8. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/featuredemail

Janet Aileen, :) Thank you so much for your help. Does it hold true for the men also My grandfather's name was Thomas but I do come across a Patrick Flanagan, that has me questioning? Thank you again, Deirdre

Do you know who Catherine's parents were?? Deirdre > Janet, > Looking for a record of my great-grandmother, Catherine Flanagan who > married Edward Morris. > The Roscommon Heritage Society was able to find records of 4 children in > the 1850's &1860's born to Catherine and Edward Morris in Errit, Castlerea, > Roscommon County. Mary Ellen (my grandmother), Anne, Catherine and > Bridget, > a marriage record for son John Morris (no birth record for him), and a death > > record, Dec 23, 1878, for Edward (Ned) Morris. > I am not sure that they were really searching for Catherine Flanagan's > family, but they did not send me a birth, marriage or death record for her. > > Therefore, I am unable to make any connections to the Flanagan family. > Would > appreciate it so much if you would take a look in the Errit (Erritt) area, > and > see if you find any connection to this family. > Thank you. > Miriam > > >

Thanks Janet, I guess from your reply that there wasn't anything on a Alexander FRAZER son of Archibald FRAZER around the beginning of the century 1800-1825. This would have been the family before the ones you listed. Lillian [email protected]

Hi Tom, I have Mayo too, also it seems Ballaghaderreen was in both counties, per this website-- http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/counties/rcmaps/ Here are the Thomas's I found-- Some from Ballaghaderreen-- GALLAGHER, Thomas Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 20 Dec 1868 Birthplace: 137, Ballaghaderreen, Mayo, Ire Recorded in: Mayo, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Michael GALLAGHER Mother: Mary DOOHAN Source: FHL Film 101178 Dates: 1868 - 1869 GALLAGHER, Thomas Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 2 Oct 1872 Birthplace: Ballaghadereen, Mayo, Ire Recorded in: Mayo, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John GALLAGHER Mother: Bridget REGAN Source: FHL Film 255864 Dates: 1872 - 1873 GALLAHER, Thomas Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 14 Sep 1873 Birthplace: Ballaghadereen, Mayo, Ire Recorded in: Mayo, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John Gallaher Mother: Margaret Sampy Source: FHL Film 255886 Dates: 1873 - 1873 GALLAGHER, Thomas Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 4 Jan 1874 Birthplace: Ballaghadereen, Mayo, Ire Recorded in: Mayo, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: James Gallagher Mother: Catherine Roddy Source: FHL Film 255896 Dates: 1874 - 1874 GALLAHER, Thomas Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 3 Feb 1874 Birthplace: Ballaghadereen, Mayo, Ire Recorded in: Mayo, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John Gallaher Mother: Bridget Murry Source: FHL Film 255896 Dates: 1874 - 1874 Others with Thomas as father- GALLAGHER, Thomas Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 25 Jun 1870 Birthplace: 17, Crossmolina, Mayo, Ire Recorded in: Mayo, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Thomas GALLAGHER Mother: Bridget GARRETT Source: FHL Film 101213 Dates: 1870 - 1872 GALLAGHER, Thomas Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 13 Aug 1870 Birthplace: 532, Lowpark, Mayo, Ire Recorded in: Mayo, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Thomas GALLAGHER Mother: Bridget GALLAGHER Source: FHL Film 101213 Dates: 1870 - 1872 GALLAGHER, Thomas Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 29 Jul 1871 Birthplace: 518, Swineford, Mayo, Ire Recorded in: Mayo, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Thomas GALLAGHER Mother: Catherine CONWAY Source: FHL Film 255830 Dates: 1871 - 1871 GALLAGHER, Thomas Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 25 Feb 1872 Birthplace: 623, Lowpark, Mayo, Ire Recorded in: Mayo, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Thomas GALLAGHER Mother: Bridget COSGROVE Source: FHL Film 255846 Dates: 1872 - 1873 _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

Janet, Looking for a record of my great-grandmother, Catherine Flanagan who married Edward Morris. The Roscommon Heritage Society was able to find records of 4 children in the 1850's & 1860's born to Catherine and Edward Morris in Errit, Castlerea, Roscommon County. Mary Ellen (my grandmother), Anne, Catherine and Bridget, a marriage record for son John Morris (no birth record for him), and a death record, Dec 23, 1878, for Edward (Ned) Morris. I am not sure that they were really searching for Catherine Flanagan's family, but they did not send me a birth, marriage or death record for her. Therefore, I am unable to make any connections to the Flanagan family. Would appreciate it so much if you would take a look in the Errit (Erritt) area, and see if you find any connection to this family. Thank you. Miriam

Hi, Mary Jean, I got to see the records some years ago at the pastor's house, which is just down the road from Sacred Heart. He let my mother and me spend several hours with the books and I took notes on entries with my family's names. Of course, the time was all too short. I'd love to go again and take extensive notes. I wonder if a visitor would be allowed to do that now? I've heard that the pastors are less willing to deal with family historians now since, supposedly, their records are at the Heritage Centers. Mary Lee Dunn

Hi Mary Lee: Yes, I have contacted the Heritage Centre and the information I have is from there. I was in Ireland a few years ago, and, while visiting a very distant cousin in Ballyfeeney, Kilglass, we went to Sacred Heart Church and the cemetery surrounding it. But he was in a hurry and nobody was around to talk to to ask to see the old records. I just hoped that there was a source of all their records, but I guess that was wishful thinking!! Thanks, anyway, and happy hunting! Mary Jean

Many people changed their first names as they do today for simple personal preference. Also in Ireland the traditional naming pattern meant there were always close relatives with the same name so a distinction was useful (often simply a shortened form or a "pet" name). Mary was not at all common in the first half of the nineteenth century. Several other girls' names were more popular, Bridget, Catherine, Judy/Judith for example. In the second half of the century the Catholic devotion to Mary had a major boost (leading eventually to the proclamation of the Immaculate Conception and the Assumption) and the influence and organisation of the church increased. Richard Callanan, London, England. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] Sent: 24 June 2003 02:47 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [ROSCOMMON] RE: Flanagan/Flynn Janet how common is it that the last names are correct but the first names are different. I know that my grandmother was born a Josephine but when she arrived here in the USA,, went by Mary ??? why would that be?? ==== ROSCOMMON Mailing List ==== Were your ancestors in Roscommon/Connaught criminals? Find out at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlros/criminal_files/criminal_a_b.htm