This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Roper, Elliot, Elliott, Yate, Yates, More, Browne Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kgDBAEB/717 Message Board Post: A "Mr. ROPER", of Orpington, is mentioned in the tale of the capture of jesuit priest Edmund CAMPION (see my previous Post "YATES and ROPER Families: A Key To Understanding the Origins of the ROPERs of VA and MD", 18 Nov 2004 9:20 PM GMT, at http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec?htx=message&r=rw&p=surnames.roper&m=715 ). Mr. ROPER was apparently the employer of one George ELLIOTT, who served as his steward and was thereby acquainted with the cook of Mrs. YATE. I have NOT yet seen any more precise identification of Mr. ROPER. The Parish registers of Orpington, Kent, show the following ROPER Christenings within Orpington Parish: Francis ROPER, son of Thomas, bapt 13 SEP 1568 Orpington, Kent, England Mabell ROPER, daughter of Thomas, bapt 19 OCT 1572 Orpington, Kent, England Luce ROPER, daughter of Thomas, bapt 11 AUG 1575 Orpington, Kent, England [see IGI Batch P008371] Thomas ROPER (21 Jan 1597/1598), son of William ROPER and Margaret MORE was married to Lucy BROWNE and is known to have had children named Francis and Mabell (amongst others). Francis ROPER, son of Thomas ROPER and Lucy BROWE is said to have been born about 1569. Mabell ROPER, daughter of Thomas ROPER and Lucy BROWE is said to have been born about 1575. The dates very closely correspond with the records given for the births of the children of Thomas ROPER, of Orpington. That a child was named "Luce", the same name as the wife of Thomas ROPER, son of William ROPER and Margaret MORE, s also highly coincidental. There are also quite a few BROWNEs in this parish. The last of the baptisms shown, that of Luce ROPER on 11 AUG 1575, also very closely corresponds to the date of death of WIlliam ROPER (d 4 Jan 1577/1578). After WIlliam ROPER's death, Thomas ROPER may have moved from Orpington to Well Hall, Eltham. Is anyone aware of any more particular identification of the "Mr. ROPER" whose former servant George ELLIOTT betrayed Father Edmund CAMPION? Is anyone aware of any other extant records which might clarify whether the Thomas ROPER, of Orpington, was actually Thomas ROPER, son of William ROPER and Margaret MORE?