This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Surnames: Roper, Parr Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/kgDBAEB/792.3.1 Message Board Post: I regret that I do NOT have any specific information at this time about a Catherine ROPER who married Jesse PARR. I WOULD note that the 1850 Census record shows Catherine PARR to be age 28 (b abt 1822 - VA). And, as you point out, she is enumerated adjacent to the Census record of R. W. ROPER in Pickens, AL. Jesse and Catherine PARR's eldest child Elizer is shown to be age 12 suggesting that Catherine married Jesse about 1837 when Catherine was about 15. Accordingly, we would expect Catherine to already be enumerated within Jesse PARR's household in 1840 and to have been in her father's household at about age 8 in 1830. * Jesse and Catherine PARR's 1860 Census record shows Catherine to be age 40 (b abt 1820). Daughter Elizabeth is shown to be age 21 that year. All of the children are shown to have been born in Alabama. Jesse's date of birth is at least a little more consistent. He is shown to have been age 48 in 1850 and age 58 in 1860. And he is shown to have been born in South Carolina. * As I popinted out in my previous Posts, Randolph ROPER is known to have died 06 Aug 1822 - James City County, VA. His last Census record shows: Randolph ROPER: 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 -- 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 -- 0 - 66 - 0 - 0 -- 2 - 2 - 1 - 0 -- 2 - 1 - 0 - 1 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 But if Catherine ROPER was born AFTER 1820, she would NOT appear in this record, even if she was Randolph ROEPR's daughter. By contrast, a decade later in 1830, we see the Census record of Randolph ROPER's son: Randal W. ROPER: 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 1 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 13 The younger Randolph ROPER is known to have married Martha Ann EPPES on 18 JUL 1822. If Catherine was Randolph William and Martha Ann EPPES daughter, we would expect her to have been born in 1823 or later. Note that this latter Census record includes a woman age 50 to 59. Presumably, Martha Ann Eppes ROPER is the woman shown in the 20 to 29 age group. Accordingly, it seems reasonable to expect that the young woman age 5 to 9 in the "Randall W. ROPER" household is probably Catherine and that it is most likely that she was the daughter of Randolph and Ann ROPER rather than Randolph W. ROPER and Martha Ann EPPES. Please bear in mind that this is a SPECULATIVE ascription based only upon the information described above AND YOUR ASSERTION that there is family lore to the effect that Catherine PARR was a ROPER. If we could pin down Catherine's precise date of birth with greater precision, we could make a somewhat stronger inference. I am unaware as to whether there exists any probate information from James City County showing the identities of Randolph ROPER's children. I haven't researched this line particularly extensively. Nor am I familiar with any probate information for Randolph W. ROPER or other members of his family. Do you know WHEN and WHERE Catherine PARR died? Also, can you tell us anything further regarding Jesse PARR, his origins and what became of him after 1860?