This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper, Hart, Wall, Davis, Moore, Hargrove, Duberry, Bass, Jordon, Morris, Roberts, Vick, Burnett, Daniel Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1931.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In my previous post about Ann Lewis ROPER, I noted the appearance of Ann's son Charles ROPER as a head of household in the 1810 Census: Charles ROPER: 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 1 -- 0 - 0 - 100 [Northampton, NC 1810] Unfortunately, this was the ONLY Census in which Charles ROPER appeared prior to his death. * * * * * Extant Northampton, NC, Probate records reflect Charles ROPER's death before December 1814. Amongst extant and readily accessible Northampton County Court records is the petition of Sally ROPER for an allotment for support from Charles ROPER's estate: Sally ROPER's Petition December Session 1814 "The petition of Sally ROPER sweith unto your worship that she is the widow and relict of Charles ROPER who died some time in the month of ______ in the present year intestate seized and possessed of a crop stock and provisions. Your petitioner prays your worships to appoint one Justice and three free- holders unconnected with your petitioners to ????? the estate of said intestate and allot and appoint as much of the said crop stock and provisions as they may consider sufficient for the support and maintenance of your petitioner and family for the space?? of one year and make report to the next county Court under their hands and seals agreeable to an Act of the General Assembly in such case made and provided and your petitioner will as in duly bound will ??? pray etc. J. DUPREE See: "North Carolina, County Records, 1833-1970," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-25459-11150-80?cc=1916185&wc=MC8D-WP6:202910901,204054101 : accessed 05 Jul 2014), Northampton > Estates 1786-1930 vol 187 Rook, W.D.-Rutland, Narsworthy > image 171 of 640; citing Department of Archives and History, Raleigh. NOTE: The YEAR of the Court or date of Charles ROPER's death is NOT GIVEN on this page. However, on what appears to be the reverse of this page is an indication that this petition was presented to the December 1814 Court for Northampton, North Carolina. The petition is shown to be addressed to the Court and it appears that Sterling BOYKIN was the Justice and Mathias DEBERRY, Leml. HARGROVES and Isham FENNEL were the freeholders selected to appraise and set aside an allotment for Sally ROPER. The surname DUPREE more clearly appears [no first name] and he appears to be an attorney acting for Sally ROPER. See: "North Carolina, County Records, 1833-1970," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-25459-11142-80?cc=1916185&wc=MC8D-WP6:202910901,204054101 : accessed 05 Jul 2014), Northampton > Estates 1786-1930 vol 187 Rook, W.D.-Rutland, Narsworthy > image 172 of 640; citing Department of Archives and History, Raleigh. * * * The next Image [173] at the FamilySearch site shows the allotment set aside for Sally ROPER. See: "North Carolina, County Records, 1833-1970," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-25459-11248-25?cc=1916185&wc=MC8D-WP6:202910901,204054101 : accessed 05 Jul 2014), Northampton > Estates 1786-1930 vol 187 Rook, W.D.-Rutland, Narsworthy > image 173 of 640; citing Department of Archives and History, Raleigh. * * * The Images in the Estate File are NOT in chronological order. Several records after the allotment, there is a bond of James DAVIS, John R. MOORE and Lemuel HARGROVE in support of James DAVIS' application to be named administrator of Charles ROPER's Estate. James DAVIS' realtionship to the decedent is NOT given, though perhaps he is a relative -- father or brother -- of Charles ROPER's widow Sally ROPER. Another possibility is that he might be a brother-in-law, married to one of Charles ROPER's sisters (though it appears that Ritty and Sarah never married). The bond is dated December 5, 1814, further refining the date range of Charles ROPER's life. See: "North Carolina, County Records, 1833-1970," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-25459-11946-7?cc=1916185&wc=MC8D-WP6:202910901,204054101 : accessed 05 Jul 2014), Northampton > Estates 1786-1930 vol 187 Rook, W.D.-Rutland, Narsworthy > image 179 of 640; citing Department of Archives and History, Raleigh. * * The Inventory of Charles ROPER's Estate shows a very modest estate consisting of Charles ROPER's personal property. He owned one man's saddle (inherited from his grandmother, Angelica LEWIS), 2 cows and calfs, 1 yearling, household furniture and appliances and a few farming implements. The Inventory is shown to hav ebeen recorded by order of the Court in March 1815. See: "North Carolina, County Records, 1833-1970," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-25459-10356-43?cc=1916185&wc=MC8D-WP6:202910901,204054101 : accessed 05 Jul 2014), Northampton > Estates 1786-1930 vol 187 Rook, W.D.-Rutland, Narsworthy > image 189 of 640; citing Department of Archives and History, Raleigh. * * The Inventory Sales Account of Charles ROPER's Estate gives us some additional insight. Since the images are readily available online, I am NOT going to fully transcribe this document, but rather merely summarize purchasers of Estate Inventory. To see what each person purcahsed, refer to the images [Images 191-2]: Sally ROPER (Widow) James DAVIS (Administrator) Mattias DUBERRY John BASS Joseph JORDAN Ann ROPER (Charles ROPER's mother) Hardy PRITCHARD Thos. MORRIS Willis ROBERTS Eli VICK Henry MORRIS John DANIEL, Junr. [the Junr. seems to be stricken through] * * James DAVIS apparently made an account of the estate at the Sep 1816 Northampton Court, which Account was ordered to be recorded [Images 184-5]. Turner WILLIAMSON is mentioned in this account. This name is familiar for reasons I cannot recall. See: "North Carolina, County Records, 1833-1970," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-25459-10363-54?cc=1916185&wc=MC8D-WP6:202910901,204054101 : accessed 05 Jul 2014), Northampton > Estates 1786-1930 vol 187 Rook, W.D.-Rutland, Narsworthy > image 184 of 640; citing Department of Archives and History, Raleigh. * * * In June 1817, Sarah ROPER gave an account of her expenditures on behalf of the orphans of Charles ROPER. Thus, we learn that "Sally" was probably a nickname for Sarah. The account shows that Sarah ROPER is guardian of John, Marthy and Thomas ROPER [Image 182]. Since Charles ROPER has only one other male in his household in 1810, a child under age 10, it seems likely that John and Sarah had then only recently married and John, Martha and Thomas seem likely to be ALL of their children. No doubt, Thomas ROPER was named for his uncle, Charles ROPER's brother. See: "North Carolina, County Records, 1833-1970," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-25459-10398-45?cc=1916185&wc=MC8D-WP6:202910901,204054101 : accessed 05 Jul 2014), Northampton > Estates 1786-1930 vol 187 Rook, W.D.-Rutland, Narsworthy > image 181 of 640; citing Department of Archives and History, Raleigh. * * * * * At Images 193-4, we find an Inventory shown to be Inventory of Sally BURNETT, Widow of Charles ROPER. This Inventory is dated March 20 1826. This Inventory was presented to the Northampton Court in March 1827. See: "North Carolina, County Records, 1833-1970," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-25459-11881-3?cc=1916185&wc=MC8D-WP6:202910901,204054101 : accessed 05 Jul 2014), Northampton > Estates 1786-1930 vol 187 Rook, W.D.-Rutland, Narsworthy > image 193 of 640; citing Department of Archives and History, Raleigh. An account of the Inventory Sales of Sally BURNETT's Estate follows. Sally's estate was very small. Purchasers of the Estate Inventory are shown to be: Ritty ROPER (sister-in-law) Presley DANIEL Martha ROPER (daughter) Robert BURNETT See: "North Carolina, County Records, 1833-1970," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1961-25459-12605-47?cc=1916185&wc=MC8D-WP6:202910901,204054101 : accessed 05 Jul 2014), Northampton > Estates 1786-1930 vol 187 Rook, W.D.-Rutland, Narsworthy > image 195 of 640; citing Department of Archives and History, Raleigh. * * * An additional guardianship bond dated 06 Mar 1826 by Ritty ROPER appears at Image 177. It also identifies John ROPER and Martha ROPER as her wards. The absence of other children in this document seems to suggest that John and Martha were probably Charles and Sally ROPER's only living children by 1826. Even if Thomas ROPER was OLDER than John ROPER, it seems UNLIKELY that he would have been age 21 by March 1826. See: "North Carolina, County Records, 1833-1970," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-25459-11979-94?cc=1916185&wc=MC8D-WP6:202910901,204054101 : accessed 05 Jul 2014), Northampton > Estates 1786-1930 vol 187 Rook, W.D.-Rutland, Narsworthy > image 177 of 640; citing Department of Archives and History, Raleigh. * * * The Image and document in the file of the Estate of Charles ROPER, Deceased, following the allotment by the freeholders is the bond of Ritty ROPER dated 02 Mar 1829, showing Ritty ROPER's qualification to continue serve as the guardian of John ROPER and Martha ROPER, orphans of Charles ROPER, deceased. See: "North Carolina, County Records, 1833-1970," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-25459-11164-26?cc=1916185&wc=MC8D-WP6:202910901,204054101 : accessed 05 Jul 2014), Northampton > Estates 1786-1930 vol 187 Rook, W.D.-Rutland, Narsworthy > image 175 of 640; citing Department of Archives and History, Raleigh. Thus, we know that Charles ROPER was born abt 1776-82 and that he died before 05 Dec 1814. We know that Charles ROPER's widow was named Sarah "Sally" ROPER and that Charles ROPER had at least three minor children at his death: John ROPER (b abt 1808-14)* Martha ROPER (b abt 1810-14) Thomas ROPER (b abt 1810-14) If John ROPER was born before 1808, he wouldn't have been a minor in March 1829. If John ROPER was the male under age 10 in Charles ROPER's 1810 Census record, which seems most likely, this would further narrow the age range to b abt 1808-10. If Martha and/or Thomas were born in 1810, it seems likely that their birth was AFTER the 1810 Census. It seems most likely that the children were shown in birth order in the guardianship document. * * * John and Martha ROPER are each still mentioned in Ritty ROPER's March 1829 guardianship accounting. See: "North Carolina, County Records, 1833-1970," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-25459-13344-48?cc=1916185&wc=MC8D-WP6:202910901,204054101 : accessed 06 Jul 2014), Northampton > Estates 1786-1930 vol 187 Rook, W.D.-Rutland, Narsworthy > image 199 of 640; citing Department of Archives and History, Raleigh. * * John ROPER and Martha ROPER are both shown within a March 1830 guardianship account submitted to the Court by their guardian and aunt Ritty ROPER. This seems to suggest that John ROPER was NOT YET age 21 by March 1830. See: "North Carolina, County Records, 1833-1970," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1971-25459-13776-13?cc=1916185&wc=MC8D-WP6:202910901,204054101 : accessed 05 Jul 2014), Northampton > Estates 1786-1930 vol 187 Rook, W.D.-Rutland, Narsworthy > image 197 of 640; citing Department of Archives and History, Raleigh. * * * * * John ROPER is shown to have married Rebecca HART on 07 Jan 1836 in Northampton, NC. See: "North Carolina, County Marriages, 1762-1979 ," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XFS2-589 : accessed 06 Jul 2014), John Roper and Rebekah Hart, 07 Jan 1836; citing Northampton, North Carolina, United States; FHL microfilm 000275919. Martha ROPER is shown to have married Edward F. WALL on 11 Nov 1831 in Northampton, NC. See: "North Carolina, County Marriages, 1762-1979 ," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XFS2-B5N : accessed 06 Jul 2014), Edward F Wall and Martha Roper, 11 Nov 1831; citing Northampton, North Carolina, United States; FHL microfilm 000275919. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>