This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper, Butler, Shackleford Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1932.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Frank: I want to call your attention and that of those interested in Charles ROPER and Elizabeth BUTLER to my thread at theRootsWeb SHACKLEFORD Message Board: "Banister SHACKLEFORD m Elizabeth ROPER abt 1795-8" (7 Jun 2014 4:13PM GMT) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shackleford/364/mb.ashx After my initial post, I found some additional useful information about Banister SHACKLEFORD's family and added this reply to my initial post: "Charles R. SHACKLEFORD (b abt 1803 - Nottoway, VA), Son of Banister and Elizabeth SHACKLEFORD" (13 Jun 2014 7:05PM GMT ) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.shackleford/364.1/mb.ashx I am NOT going to endeavor to reprise all of the information appearing in those posts, but I will quickly abstract it here. * * * Recall that the Census data for Virginia is LOST for the 1790 and 1800 Census. Thus, the 1810 Census is the first to give us a look at Virginia households. Bannister SHACKLEFORD is enumerated in Nottoway, Virginia, in 1810: Banister SHACKLEFORD: 2 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 -- 2 - 1 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 5 [Nottoway, VA 1810] Banister SHACKLEFORD seems to be age 26 to 44 (b abt 1766-84) with a female (presumably wife Elizabeth Roper SHACKLEFORD of similar age. The children seem to be consistent in age with a marriage a few years before 1800 (abt 1795-98). * * * I have NOT yet found the 1820 Census record. In 1830, Elizabeth SHACKLEFORD is enumerated residing in Nottoway County: Elizabeth SHACKLEFORD: 0 - 0 - 0 - 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 [Nottoway, VA 1830] Elizabeth is shown to be age 50 to 59 (1771-80). Elizabeth seems to have two sons age 15 to 19 (b abt 1811-5), one presumably Joel G. SHACKLEFORD. There are also two younger females in this household. * Charles R. SHACKLEFORD is enumerated residing in Dinwiddie, Dinwiddie County, Virginia in 1830: Charles R. SHACKLEFORD: 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 [Dinwiddie, VA 1830] Also on this Census page is the household of Lewis MEREDITH. Lewis and Mary Roper MEREDITH are Charles SHACKLEFORD's uncle and aunt (Mary "Dolly" Roper MEREDITH is the sister of Charles' mother Elizabeth ROPER. * * * Joel G. SHACKLEFORD is enumerated residing in Nottoway in 1840: Joel G. SHACKLEFORD: 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 [Nottoway, VA 1840] Elizabeth Roper SHACKLEFORD appears to be residing in Joel SHACKLEFORD's household. Charles SHACKLEFORD is also residing in Nottoway in 1840: Charles SHACKLEFORD: 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 [Nottoway, VA 1840] * * * In 1850, Elizabeth SHACKLEFORD, age 70, Female, born "Dinwiddie", is enumerated residing with her son Charles R. SHACKLEFORD, age 47, and his wife in Nottoway County. This reasonably conclusively fixes Elizabeth's year of birth as about 1780. The affirmative showing of Dinwiddie as Elizabeth ROPER's place of birth would tend to support Charles ROPER and Eliabeth BUTLER's presence in Dinwiddie in 1780. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>