This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: batchelorw Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1743.6.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bill, Bill, You are correct that the David Roper of both Cumberland, KY and Rhea, TN, is the David Roper who married Nancy Lewis in Caswell, NC. The David Y. Roper of Giles, TN is a different person and was not married to Nancy Lewis, as is commonly stated in both the L. Roper database and on most posted pedigrees on Ancestry.com. David Roper, to my knowledge, never owned property in McMinn, TN. David Roper did own land in both Cumberland County, KY and Rhea, TN, as we have seen from extant transcribed probate records. In looking at the book "Cumberland County Kentucky Deed Records Abstract and Index" compiled by Laura Lee Butler and Randolph N. Smith, 1975, we find that David and his wife are selling some of their property in Cumberland, KY: "David Roper & w. Nancy of Rhea Co. Tenn. to Clement Scott land on Galaway; 2/8/1831; G-241; also 6-242; 8/18/1830". P. 158 Notice that the above record is the first and only time that I am aware of that we come across the name of the wife of David Roper of Cumberland County, KY. This would be consistent with David Roper marrying Nancy Lewis in Caswell, NC in 1802. "David Roper of Rhea County to Joel Scott land on Galloway Creek; 8/2/1830; G-244". P. 158 There is also this entry in a Kentucky deed book: Deed Book A 278 26 Feb. 1831 David Roper of Rhea co. to Solomon Hayes. I currently show David Roper of Cumberland County, KY to be born about 1778, and my earlier post in 2012 stating a birth in about 1882 would be incorrect. David Roper of Cumberland County, KY is shown with no slaves in the 1810 Cumberland County, KY census. David Roper is shown with one male slave in the 1820 Cumberland County, KY census. His father John Roper, Sr. and his brother John Roper, Jr. (also known as John A. Roper) are shown with no slaves when they arrive in Cumberland County, KY as shown in the 1820 census. John Roper, Sr. had one slave as shown in the 1810 Caswell, NC census, but he may have lost the slave when he had a judgment entered against his 484 acres and his personal property in 1811 in Caswell, NC. David Roper of Cumberland, KY is shown with one male slave <14 in the 1820 Cumberland, KY census. David Rope is shown with four slaves in the 1830 Rhea, TN census: one male 24-35, one female <10, one female 10-23, and one female 24-35. I do not agree that it would be "better to move on past the false ascription" of David Y. Roper "as a son of William Roper and Sarah (possibly Sarah Yates, but with no extant record) and "to focus on the REAL relationships." So far, I think that Jeffrey Howard Roper' claimed lineage is probably correct. I am confused by this paragraph: "I would think that the David Roper in Cumberland/Rhea would have been age 10-14 in the 1790 census. And he would have been 20-24 in the 1800 census. How does that inform or alter our view as to the candidates to be this David Roper's father?" It is most probable that the John Roper of Halifax, VA, who can be seen buying property in Caswell, NC in about 1798, and who is the only Roper shown in deed records in Caswell, NC between 1800-1810, with the exception of his son Henry Roper, was the father of David Roper, who married Nancy Lewis in 1802 in Caswell, NC. This if further supported by the John Roper, aka John Roper, Sr. and his son John Roper, Jr. moving to Cumberland County, KY to appear in the 1820 census where his son David Roper is residing. In reference to the McMinn connection, this, in my opinion, primarily has to do with Philip L. Roper and his family. However, I am not sufficiently comfortable with those connections to adopt them at the present time. It is possible that Philip L. was the son of Thomas Roper of Pulaski, KY, as shown in the 1810 census. It is possible that Thomas Roper and his wife died, leaving orphans. It is possible that three of those male orphans were Philip L. Roper, and James and Joseph Roper of McMinn, TN. However, I am still working on that data and am not satisfied that I have sufficient proof. Finally, I have seen no original deed records for David Roper. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>