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Author: waroper Surnames: Roper Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1859.8/mb.ashx Message Board Post: On March 7, 2002, Edgefield researcher Billie JONES first presented us with a transcription of the nuncupative Will of Wiley ROPER, dated 19 Nov 1807 and sworn to and record on 24 Nov 1807: "Will of WILEY ROPER Box 44 - 1875 Recorded Nov 24, 1807 South Carolina, Edgefield District Personally appreared before me Benj Roper, David Roper and Nancy Earnest who being sworn . sayeth that on the 19th day of Nov., 1807, they were at the house of Wiley Roper and was called upon by said Roper as witnesses to his verbal will (Viz) that is to say his desire was that all his just debts be paid by his Brother Joel, & that his three horses, plows, and years fodder, tobacco, Cotton, saddle, Bridel & Rifle gun be sold on a [__] of twelve months & the remaining part of his estate to his wife Peggey in fee simple and that the above will . was the last will & testament of Wiley Roper Dec'd & that Joel Roper should be his Executor to settle all his estate. Sworn before me this 24th day of Nov, 1807 /s/ Benjamin Roper /s/ David Roper /s/ Nancy [ea-nes]" "ROPERS - More Probate records from Box 43-44, Edgefield Co. Probate Records." (Lee and Billie Jones, Thu, 7 Mar 2002 22:41:27 -0500) * NOTE: Later transcriptions of this abstracted information posted by Billie JONES seem to introduce an error identifying brother "Jack" rather than brother "Joel" and sometimes show "Willey" instead of "Wiley". However, I have NOT examined the original probate records. Those with a keen interest in this family OUGHT TO examine the underlying probate records and post full transcriptions of additional documents. * * * Mrs. JONES reposted this information, together with other ROPER Wills and abstracts on April 13, 2002: "Will of Wiley Roper Box 44 - 1875 Recorded Nov 24, 1807 South Carolina, Edgefield District Personally appeared before me Benj Roper, David Roper and Nancy Earnest who being sworn . sayeth that on the 19th day of Nov., 1807, they were at the house of Wiley Roper and was called upon by said Roper as witnesses to his verbal will (Viz) that is to say his desire was that all his just debts be paid by his Brother Joel, & that his three horses, plows, and years fodder, tobacco, Cotton, saddle, Bridel & Rifle gun be sold on a [__] of twelve months & the remaining part of his estate to his wife Peggey in fee simple and that the above will . was the last will & testament of Wiley Roper Dec'd & that Joel Roper should be his Executor to settle all his estate. Sworn before me this 24th day of Nov, 1807 /s/ Benjamin Roper /s/ David Roper /s/ Nancy [ea-nes]" "ROPER wills, Edgefield Co, SC transcribed by Billie Jones" (Lee and Billie Jones, Sat, 13 Apr 2002 14:37:51 -0400) * * * On September 27, 2002, Mrs. JONES again cited this abstracted information in discussing several ROPER Wills and estates: "[Son of William and Sarah Roper:] *Will of Wiley Roper Box 44 - 1875 Recorded Nov 24, 1807 South Carolina, Edgefield District Personally appeared before me Benj Roper, David Roper and Nancy Earnest who being sworn . sayeth that on the 19th day of Nov., 1807, they were at the house of Wiley Roper and was called upon by said Roper as witnesses to his verbal will (Viz) that is to say his desire was that all his just debts be paid by his Brother Joel, & that his three horses, plows, and years fodder, tobacco, Cotton, saddle, Bridel & Rifle gun be sold on a [__] of twelve months & the remaining part of his estate to his wife Peggey in fee simple and that the above will . was the last will & testament of Wiley Roper Dec'd & that Joel Roper should be his Executor to settle all his estate. Sworn before me this 24th day of Nov, 1807 /s/ Benjamin Roper /s/ David Roper /s/ Nancy [ea-nes]" "Ropers of Edgefield Dist, SC." (Lee and Billie Jones, Fri, 27 Sep 2002 22:54:54 -0400) * * * On September 30, 2004, Mrs. JONES re-posted this abstracted probate information along with her notes concerning relationships: "BOX 44, Pkg. 1875 Willey Roper, Recorded Nov 24, 1807 Personally appreared before me, Benjamin Roper, David Roper, & Nancy Earnest who being sworn.. say that on the 19th of Nov, 1807 they were at the house of Wiley Roper & was called upon by said Roper as witnesses to his verbal Will, viz: All his just debts to be paid by our brother Jack & that his three horses plows and ? years of fodder, cotton, saddel bridel & ___ gun be sold on the breadth of twelve months & the remaining part of his estate to his wife Peggy in fee simple. And that the above will was the last will and Test. Of Wiley Roper, and that Joel Roper should be his executor to settle all his estate. Sworn on 24th day of Nov 1807 Benjamin Roper, David Roper, and Nancy Earnest. -------------------------- This sees to match Wiley Roper m. Peggy in my files? I think this is the Wiley of this family: Descendants of William Roper 1 William ROPER b: June 23, 1753 probably Dinwiddie VA d: Bet. June 1803 - May 1804 Edgefield Co, SC . Sarah HARD b: VA ..... 2 Samuel ROPER b: Abt. 1777 VA ......... Rebecca LIMBECKER d: February 1820 Edgefield Co, SC *... 2 Wiley ROPER b: Abt. 1780 d: Abt. 1807 ......... Peggy UNKNOWN ..... 2 Joel ROPER b: Bet. 1780 - 1790 d: Bef. August 30, 1845 Edgefield Co, SC ......... Julian UNKNOWN b: Abt. 1800 d: November 10, 1851 ............ 3 Frances ROPER ................ ? MAYSON Father: Archibald Mayson ............ 3 Joel C. ROPER ............ 3 Sarah Amanda ROPER d: Bet. 1831 - 1834 ................ Daniel D. BRUNSON b: October 30, 1806 SC d: September 11, 1877 Burial: Antioch Baptist Church, Edgefield Co, SC ................... 4 Amanda BRUNSON ................... 4 Samuel BRUNSON b: Abt. 1831 ............ 3 Benjamin ROPER b: Abt. 1833 ............ 3 James M. ROPER b: Abt. 1839 ............ 3 John ROPER b: Abt. 1841 d: Bef. July 31, 1844 ..... 2 Nancy ROPER b: Abt. 1784 ......... Jacob EARNEST, Jr. ..... 2 Sally ROPER b: Abt. 1786 ..... 2 John ROPER b: Abt. 1788 ..... 2 Early ROPER b: Abt. 1790 More information available upon request. Some of the Sources: 1. Some Southern Roper Trees: A Book of Clues, compiled by June Roper Walton, 1991 (P. O. Box 748, Four Oaks, NC 27524). 2. Edgefield Co. Probate, Will of William Roper: [WPA will transcfriptions of Edgefield Co, SC Vol 1 Bk. A (microfilm # ST 0541 (AD521), p. 536] SC State Archives. 3. Roper-Moore family Bible records, sent to me by Anne Swanson, P.O. Box 21033, Columbia, SC 29221 [See the Archived record for e-mail address]. 4. Will abstract of Joel Roper, p. 187 [Will Book D., p. 260, 31 July 1844] 5. A few are found in the 1850 Edgefield Co, Census, The District, p. 156A" "More info. for Probate Box 44 - William and Wiley Roper Probate" (Lee and Billie Jones, Thu, 30 Sep 2004 22:53:06 -0400) * * * Mrs. JONES re-posted this information on October 5, 2004: "BOX 44, 1875 Willey Roper, Recorded Nov 24, 1807 Personally appreared before me, Benjamin Roper, David Roper, & Nancy Earnest who being sworn.. say that on the 19th of Nov, 1807 they were at the house of Wiley Roper & was called upon by said Roper as witnesses to his verbal Will, viz: All his just debts to be paid by our brother Jack & that his three horses plows and ? years of fodder, cotton, saddel bridel & ___ gun be sold on the breadth of twelve months & the remaining part of his estate to his wife Peggy in fee simple. And that the above will was the last will and Test. Of Wiely Roper, and that Joel Roper should be his executor to settle all his estate. Sworn on 24th day of Nov 1807 Benjamin Roper, David Roper, and Nancy Earnest." "ROPER wills" (Lee and Billie Jones, Tue, 5 Oct 2004 21:53:26 -0400) * * * * * This Wiley ROPER is rather clearly identified as the son of William and Sarah ROPER within William ROPER's Will dated 07 Jun 1803 and proved 25 Oct 1803. See my prior posts: "Will of William ROPER, of Edgefield, SC, Dated 07 Jun 1803" (9 Mar 2014 10:50PM GMT) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1859.3/mb.ashx "William ROPER (b 26 Jun 1753 - VA, d bef Oct 1803 - Edgefield, SC)" (8 Mar 2014 9:26PM GMT) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1858/mb.ashx * * * The Nancy EARNEST mentioned seems to be Wiley ROPER's sister mentioned in their father's Will, who seems to have married Jacob EARNEST. One EARNEST/ERNEST researcher later places this couple in Sullivan County, Indiana. It would be helpful to have more precise information as to Nancy Roper ERNEST's date of birth if this can be garnered from Census or other primary documents. * * * Wiley ROPER was never enumerated as a head of household in the U.S. Census. His widow, Peggy is shown in the 1810 Census for Edgefield, SC: Peggy ROPER: 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 2 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 -- 0 [Edgefield, 1810] Wiley and Peggy ROPER seem to have had two daughters, under age 10 at the 1810 Census, though no children are mentioned in the nuncupative Will. Of course, it is possible that Peggy had children from a prior marriage or that she is caring for other youngsters. * I had previously discussed Peggy ROPER within a post from July 2002: "Sorting Out SC ROPER Widows Shown in the Census - 1810" (24 Jul 2002 11:39PM GMT) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/516/mb.ashx Billie JONES' discovery of the Wiley ROPER nuncupative Will seems to have been mostly overlooked by me in that post, though I mention that other secondary sources showed Peggy as Wiley ROPER's widow. My speculation about Margaret / Margarite ROPER within that same post was farther OFF THE MARK. The nuncupative Will of William ROPER dated 21 Jul 1810 clarifies that Margarite ROPER was the widow of William ROPER. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>