This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1921.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: One curiosity is John YATES' absence from Jemima YATES' household in 1830 when John YATES was then still living. The pension records indicate in several places that John YATES' date of death was 16 Dec 1835. Moreover, John YATES is shown to have testified in open court in Wilkes County on 04 Nov 1834. It seems most likely that John YATES was living with his son Tilman YATES at the date of the 1830 Census. Tilman YATES' 1830 Census record shows: Tilman YATES: 0 - 0 - 0 - 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 [Wilkes, NC 1830] See: "United States Census, 1830," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHPV-VTG : accessed 06 Jun 2014), Tillman Yates, Not Stated, Wilkes, North Carolina; citing "1830 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 398, NARA microfilm publication M19, roll 125, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0018091. The eldest male in this household is shown to be age 70 to 79, which is consistent with John YATES' age in 1830. Note that there are ZERO females residing in Tilman YATES' household. It may be that Tilman inhabited John ROPER's land and farm and it was decided that Jemima could get better care given her blindness in the care of David YATES' family which seems to have included David's wife and four granddaughters. * * * In 1840, the older male is no longer residing in Tilman YATES' household: Tilman YATES: 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 [Wilkes, NC 1840] See: "United States Census, 1840," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHYJ-K1G : accessed 06 Jun 2014), Tilmon Yates, Wheelers District, Wilkes, North Carolina; citing "1840 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 97, NARA microfilm publication M704, roll 373, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0018098. Tilman YATES is shown to be age 30 to 29 (b abt 1801-10). Other records show that Tilman YATES was remarried on 15 Apr 1831 to Polly BUMGARNER. See: "North Carolina, County Marriages, 1762-1979 ," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XF9T-F2P : accessed 06 Jun 2014), Tilman Yates and Polly Bumgarner, 15 Apr 1831; citing Wilkes, North Carolina, United States; FHL microfilm 000546481. * * * The 1850 Census shows Tilman YATES to be age 49. Interestingly, one of Tilman's sons is named "Jesse", a common given name in Charles ROPER's family, as well as Jesse ROPER, of Chesterfield and Richmond. There was also a Jesse ROPER in Pennsylvania. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>