This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper, Raper Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1870.5/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The following ROPERs are shown within the Index to the Pension Files for the War of 1812: David ROPER, Capt E Buchanon's Co Tenn Mil Henry C. ROPER, Sgt, Capt. Louis POINDEXTER's Co., Va. Militia (OR Capt. Nicholas POINDEXTER) Holly ROPER, Sgt., Capt BORESTLER's Company, Ohio Militia John ROPER, Captain, Tennessee Militia John C. ROPER, Capt. DOLASON's Company, Kentucky Militia John M. ROPER, Private, Capt. R. GRAVES' Company, Viginia Militia; Private, Capt. John TYLER's Company, Viginia Militia John Y. ROPER, Corporal, Capt. METCALF's Tennessee Militia Robert ROPER John ROPPER, Private, Captain Benjamin HASKELL's Company, Massachusetts Militia * Anna ROPER, spouse of John C. ROPER (see above) Mildred A. ROPER, spouse of Daniel M. BLACK, Corporal, Capt. Samuel JOHNSON's Company, Virginia Militia Ruth ROPER, spouse of Robert ROPER * * * * * DAVID ROPER The Index entry for David ROPER shows this David ROPER to be the David ROPER who served in Capt. E. BUCHANON's Co., Tennessee Militia. The Pension Application is shown on the Index card to refer to file numbers: "S.O. 16326" and "S.W. 10460" [Image 88 of 1052]. See: "United States War of 1812 Index to Pension Application Files, 1812-1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8ZQ-VNT : accessed 05 Apr 2014), David Roper, ; citing military unit Capt E Buchanon's Co Tenn Mil, NARA microfilm publication M313, roll 81, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 847511. This seems to be the SAME David ROPER identified in the Index to 1812 Service records as: ROPER, David, Bunch's Reg't (1814), E. Tennessee Militia, Private [Image 602] * In another post, I showed that this was David ROPER (b 08 Jun 1792 - SC, d 17 Apr 1878 - Lawrence, MO), who served with Ewel ROPER, in Edward BUCHANAN's Company from Blount County, Tennessee: "TN Militia Service of David ROPER (b 08 Jun 1792 - SC, d 17 Apr 1878 - Lawrence, MO)" (18 Mar 2014 1:35AM GMT) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1758.4/mb.ashx This David ROPER is known to have been born in South Carolina, migrated to St. Louis, MO, by 1830, settled in Greene County, MO, and later Lawrence MO. Although this David ROPER has been specualtive ascribed as a member of the Maury County, Tennessee, ROPER family, there seems to be NO EVIDENCE supporting this ascription and no one seems to have ever bothered to obtain and transcribe David ROPER's extant pension file to learn his true origin and lineage. * * * HENRY C. ROPER The Index entry for Henry C. ROPER shows this Henry C. ROPER to be the Henry C. ROPER who served as a Sergeant in Capt. Louis POINDEXTER's Co., Va. Militia. The Pension Application is shown on the Index card to refer to file numbers: "S.O. 34516" [Image 89 of 1052]. See: "United States War of 1812 Index to Pension Application Files, 1812-1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8ZQ-VNY : accessed 05 Apr 2014), Henry C Roper, ; citing military unit Sgt Capt Louis Poindexter Co Va Mil Or Capt Nicholas Poindexter, NARA microfilm publication M313, roll 81, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 847511. There are three candidates to be Henry ROPER amongst those shown in the Index to the 1812 Service Records at the U.S. Archives: ROPER, Henry, 1 Reg't (Yancey's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 616] ROPER, Henry, 4 Regiment Virginia Militia (Lt. Col. McDowell, Lt. Col. Koontz, Lt. Col. Chilton) [Image 617] ROPER, Henry, 5 Regiment Virginia Militia, Private [Image 618] Secondary sources show aboth a Lewis POINDEXTER and a Nicholas POINDEXTER served in the Virginia Militia during the War of 1812: Lewis D. POINDEXTER, 1 Reg't Cav. (HOLCOMBE'S) Virginia Mil Nicholas J. POINDEXTER, Captain, 40 Regiment Virginia Militia. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~poindexterfamily/PoindexterWar.html * The Index to War of 1812 Pension Applications shows a pension application for a Lewis D. POINDEXTER who is shown to ha ve been a Private in Capt John B ROYALL's Company, Virginia Militia. See: "United States War of 1812 Index to Pension Application Files, 1812-1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8ZS-WNT : accessed 06 Apr 2014), Lewis D Or Louis Poindexter, ; citing military unit Pvt Capt John B Royall's Co Va Mil, NARA microfilm publication M313, roll 75, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 847505. No pension application for Nicholas J. POINDEXTER is shown in the Index. * The Index to the 1812 Service Records at the U.S. Archives also shows a Lewis D. POINDEXTER who served as a Private in 1 Reg't Cav. (Holcombe's) Virginia Militia. This seems to be the ONLY Lewis or Louis POINDEXTER shown. See: "United States War of 1812 Index to Service Records, 1812-1815," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1942-21911-58422-86?cc=1916219&wc=M6YX-3MS:203271701 : accessed 06 Apr 2014), Pl - Poq > image 1069 of 2684; citing NARA microfilm publication M602. By contrast, the Index shows a service record for a Captain Nicholas J. POINDEXTER serving in the 40 Regiment Virginia Militia as POINDEXTER family secondary sources had shown. See: "United States War of 1812 Index to Service Records, 1812-1815," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21911-55140-16?cc=1916219&wc=M6YX-3MS:203271701 : accessed 06 Apr 2014), Pl - Poq > image 1072 of 2684; citing NARA microfilm publication M602. I did NOT check other POINDEXTER given names for POINDEXTERs who ahd served as Captains. * Nicholas J. POINDEXTER married in Louisa County, Virginia in December 1806 and is enumerated residing in Louisa County in the 1820 Census. The 40th Regiment seems to have been mostly a louisa County, Virginia, unit. It is UNCLEAR how Henry C. ROPER found his way to Louisa County to enlist in the 40th Regiment. His widowed mother Frances seems to have remarried Charles WALKER in Campbell County, Virginia, by 14 Feb 1810 and Charles WALKER is enumerated in Campbell County in the 1810 Census and was still there in 1820. * This seems to be Henry C. ROPER (b 27 Aug 1799 - VA, d 13 May 1882 - Sarcoxie, Jasper, MO). This Henry ROPER was enumerated in Lynchburg, Campbell County, VA, in 1820. See: "United States Census, 1820," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHLH-R9R : accessed 06 Apr 2014), Henry Roper, Lynchburg, Campbell, Virginia; citing "1820 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 135, NARA microfilm publication M33, roll 129, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0193688. In 1830 and 1840, Henry C. ROPER seems to have resided in Trigg County, Kentucky. See: "United States Census, 1830," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHPC-YH7 : accessed 06 Apr 2014), Henry C Roper, Not Stated, Trigg, Kentucky; citing "1830 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 6, NARA microfilm publication M19, roll 42, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0007821. "United States Census, 1840," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHTP-8YK : accessed 06 Apr 2014), Henry C Roper, Not Stated, Trigg, Kentucky; citing "1840 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 285, NARA microfilm publication M704, roll 124, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0007832. This Henry C. ROPER, age 51, born in VA, was enumerated residing with wife Nancy and his children in Montgomery County, IL, in 1850. That ALL of the children, with ages ranging from 10 to 20, are shown to be born in Kentucy, would seem to confim the migration path. See: "United States Census, 1850," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M85D-2D3 : accessed 06 Apr 2014), Henry C Roper, Montgomery county, Montgomery, Illinois, United States; citing family 831, NARA microfilm publication M432. Henry C. ROPER was still residing in Montgomery County, IL, in 1860, with wife Nancy and youngest children Victoria and James. See: "United States Census, 1860," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MX48-1M8 : accessed 06 Apr 2014), Henry C Roper, N 2/3 Of T 7 N R 3 W Of 3d P M, Montgomery, Illinois, United States; citing "1860 U.S. Federal Census - Population," Fold3.com; p. 206, household ID 1507, NARA microfilm publication M653; FHL microfilm 803214. In 1870, Henry is enumerated residing within the household of Thomas and Elizaabeth LUCAS, his son-in-law and daughter. See: "United States Census, 1870," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M468-K4R : accessed 06 Apr 2014), Henry C Roper in household of Thomas Lucas, Missouri, United States; citing p. 22, family 151, NARA microfilm publication M593, FHL microfilm 000552282. In 1880, Henry ROPER is enumerated residing in Sarcoxie, Jasper County, Missouri, with wife Nancy, daughter Victoria and granddaughter Mary, age 15. See: "United States Census, 1880," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M6XD-D3T : accessed 06 Apr 2014), Henry Roper, Sarcoxie, Jasper, Missouri, United States; citing sheet 399D, NARA microfilm publication T9. * * * HOLLY ROPER/RAPER The index entry for the Pension Record of Holly ROPER shows that this Holly ROPER served as a Sergeant in Captain BRESTLER's Company in the Ohio Militia. The Index entry sho3 Old War Invalid File No. "1338" (Bundle No. 34, Can No 13). [Image 90 of 1052]. See: "United States War of 1812 Index to Pension Application Files, 1812-1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8ZQ-VNB : accessed 05 Apr 2014), Holly Roper, ; citing military unit Sergt Capt Borestler Ohio Mil, NARA microfilm publication M313, roll 81, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 847511. * This a record for a Holly ROPER appears to me to actually be a pension record for a Holly RAPER, at least based upon the Indices to Census records. Holly RAPER is enumerated residing in Williamsburg, Clermont, OH, in the 1820 U.S. Census enumeration. See: "United States Census, 1820," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHLS-ZYX : accessed 09 Apr 2014), Holly Raper, Williamsburg, Clermont, Ohio; citing "1820 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 3, NARA microfilm publication M33, roll 89, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0181395. * Holly RAPER is enumerated residing in Batavia, Clermont, OH, in the 1830 Census enumeration. See: "United States Census, 1830," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHGJ-LG7 : accessed 09 Apr 2014), Holly Raper, Batavia, Clermont, Ohio; citing "1830 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 177, NARA microfilm publication M19, roll 128, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0337939. * Holly RAPER is enumerated residing in Tate, Clermont, OH, in the 1840 Census enumeration. See: "United States Census, 1840," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHTR-G7B : accessed 09 Apr 2014), Holley Raper, Tate, Clermont, Ohio; citing "1840 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 146, NARA microfilm publication M704, roll 384, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0020161. * Holly RAPER, age 59 (b abt 1791), born Pennsylvania, is enumerated residing in Miami, Clermont, OH, in the 1850 Census enueration, with wife Sarah, age 55 (b 1795 - VA), and five children. See: "United States Census, 1850," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MX32-BBY : accessed 09 Apr 2014), Holly Raper, Miami, Clermont, Ohio, United States; citing family 859, NARA microfilm publication M432. * In 1860, Holly RAPER, age 69, was enumerated residing with his family in Union Township, Jasper, Illinois, within the household of T. J. WATKINS. See: "United States Census, 1860," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MX4P-BG3 : accessed 09 Apr 2014), Holly Raper in household of T J Watkins, Union Township, Jasper, Illinois, United States; citing "1860 U.S. Federal Census - Population," Fold3.com; p. 573, household ID 59, NARA microfilm publication M653; FHL microfilm 803187. * * ALL of these Census records are Indexed under RAPER rather than ROPER. * * Holly RAPER is shown to have married Susan YATES on 10 Mar 1814 in Clermont County, Ohio. * * * JOHN ROPER The index entry for the Pension Record of John ROPER shows that this John ROPER served as a Captain in the Tennessee Militia. The Index entry does NOT reflect a Pension Application. Rather, the Index entry reflects John ROPER Bounty Land Warrants: "23280-80-50" and "6920-80-55". [Image 91 of 1052]. See: "United States War of 1812 Index to Pension Application Files, 1812-1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8ZQ-VN1 : accessed 05 Apr 2014), John Roper, ; citing military unit Captain Tennessee Militia, NARA microfilm publication M313, roll 81, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 847511. * * * JOHN C. ROPER The index entry for the Pension Record of John C. ROPER shows that this John C. ROPER served in Capt. DOLASON's Company, Kentucky Militia. The Index entry shows Pension Application Number: "Wid. Orig. 44464". [Image 92 of 1052]. See: "United States War of 1812 Index to Pension Application Files, 1812-1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8ZQ-VJM : accessed 05 Apr 2014), John C Roper, ; citing military unit Capt Dolason's Co Ky Mil, NARA microfilm publication M313, roll 81, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 847511. Check DOLASON against Captain Thomas DOLLARHIDE, 3rd Company, Rennick's Battalion, Kentucky Mounted Infantry. http://books.google.com/books?id=UAg8AAAAIAAJ&lpg=RA1-PA63&ots=zaQa8s_AHJ&dq=Captain Kentucky militia 1 "Rifle Regiment" Allen&pg=RA1-PA62#v=onepage&q&f=false * * * JOHN M. ROPER The index entry for the Pension Record of John M. ROPER shows that this John M. ROPER served as a Private in both Capt. R. GRAVES' Company, Viginia Militia and Capt. John TYLER's Company, Viginia Militia. The Index entry shows Pension Application Number: "Serv. Orig. 25787". [Image 93 of 1052]. Of course, the actual pension file will no doubt furnish a wealth of other additional information both as to this ancestor's war service, place of residence at application and possible lineage. See: "United States War of 1812 Index to Pension Application Files, 1812-1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8ZQ-VJS : accessed 05 Apr 2014), John M Roper, ; citing military unit Pvt Capt R Grave's Co Va Mil Pvt Capt John Tyler's Co Va Mil, NARA microfilm publication M313, roll 81, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 847511. >From the U.S. Archives Index of War of 1812 Service Records, we find the following John ROPERs as having served in various Virginia Militias during the War of 1812: ROPER, John, 1 Reg't (Yancey's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 626] ROPER, John M., 2 Corps d'Elite (Green's) Virginia Militia, Private [638] ROPER, John, 2 Reg't (Sharp's) Virginia Militia, Private (See also 3 Regt. (Boykins) Virginia Militia) [Image 630] ROPER, John, 6 Reg't (Coleman's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 632] ROPER, John, 6 Reg't Art'y (Read, Jr.'s) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 633] ROPER, John, 23 Regiment (Brown's) Virginia Militia, Sergeant [Image 634] ROPER, John, 33 Reg't (Mayo's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 635] ROPER, John, 39 Regiment Virginia Militia, Private [Image 636] ROPER, John, 52 Reg't (Christian's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 637] Of these, only ONE is conspicuously a John M. RPOER and that is the John M. ROPER shown to have served in the Second Corp d'Elite Virginia Militia under Colonel Moses GREEN. As it happens, one of the companies of 2 Corps d'Elite was commanded by Captain John TYLER. Second Corps D'Elite was commanded by Colonel Moses GREEN. One Company from Augusta County under Cpatain John LINK. A Compnay under Captain William LEIGH may have been from Campbell County. "Flying Artillery" of Capt Tunstall Shelton's Co. Captain S Campbell (Rockbridge) A letter from John TYLER possibly gives some additional insight into the possible service of this of John M. ROPER in the War of 1812: "Sherwood Forest Chs City C.H. March 27, 1855 Dear Sir: I commanded a company of Riflemen during the war of 1812 -- which after serving with the 52 Regiment of Virginia for a month at Williamsburg and Providence Forge in the county of New Kent, was transfer's to the 2d Elite corps of Virginia at Charles City Court House under the command of Col. afterwards General Moses Green, where I also serv's a month as appears by my muster rolls of file among the army returns which I presume are in teh possession of your office -- seeing that by the action of the last Congress I am entitled to land bounty and presuming that no other evidence is necessary to entitle me to it than a reference to information already before you, I respectfully solicit your attention to the claim. I have the honor to be Truly & Resply yrs, John Tyler P.S. You will find my servant William most probably entered William Short -- also on the muster roll -- He acted as my Bowman -- Is he not entitled to a grant of land? If so I should be highly gratified to hand his patent to him-- The Commissioner--" [This letter is in the Dreer Collection, Historical Society of Pennsylvania] "Letters of Presidents of the United States and Ladies of the White House", The Pennsylvania Magazine of History and Biography, Volume 25, p. 533: http://books.google.com/books?id=rtKM-pDeWbIC&lpg=PA533&ots=VKQy0k44a0&dq=Corps d'Elite "Moses Green" "Virginia Militia"&pg=PA533#v=onepage&q&f=false This letter affords us some very good insight into both the location and service of Captain TYLER's Company. We learn that his Company had served both within 52 Regiment Virginia Militia as well as under Second Corps D'Elite Virginia Militia and this is John TYLER who resides in Charles City County. This seems to suggest that both of these muster records might pertain to John M. ROPER: ROPER, John, 52 Reg't (Christian's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 637] ROPER, John M., 2 Corps d'Elite (Green's) Virginia Militia, Private [638] The orderly book for 1814 for the 2 Corp a'dElite Virginia Militia is amongst the holdings of the Historical Society of Pennsylvania. See "Second Elite Corps of the Virginia Militia orderly book 1814" http://discover.hsp.org/Record/hsp.ead.at01-Am.667/Holdings#tabnav * * * JOHN Y. ROPER The Index entry for John Y. ROPER shows this John Y. ROPER to have served as a Corporal in Capt. METCALF's Co., Tennessee Militia. The Index Entry does NOT reflect a Pension Application, but rather an indicationof application for Bounty Land. The Index Entry reflected Warrant Nos. 13713-80-50 and 33438-80-55. [Image 94 of 1052]. See: "United States War of 1812 Index to Pension Application Files, 1812-1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8ZQ-VJ3 : accessed 05 Apr 2014), John Y Roper, ; citing military unit Corpl Capt Metcalf Tenn Mil, NARA microfilm publication M313, roll 81, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 847511. This seems almost certainly to be the John Y. ROPER shown in the Index to 1812 Service records as: ROPER, John, 2 Reg't Mounted Gunmen (Williamson's) Tennessee Volunteers, Corporal [Image 631] The Index entry for John Y. ROPER's Pension Application seems to correspond exactly with the Index Entry for the Service record shown immediately above. A sumamry of the regimental history of the 2nd Regiment West Tennessee Volunteer Mounted Gunmen shows this regiment was commanded by Col. Thomas WILLIAMSON and that one of the Captains was Captain Anthony METCALF. The unit is shown to have drawn its soldiers from Bedford, Davidson, Robertson, Rutherford, Sumner, Williamson, Wilson, Giles, and Smith Counties. This regiment seems to have been called to duty from September 1814 to April 1815, fighting at Penscola and New Orleans. See: http://www.tennessee.gov/tsla/history/military/1812reg.htm Captain METCALF's Company seems to have been mustered into service on September 28, 1814, and released from duty on March 28, 1815. A transcription of Captain METCALF's Muster Roll appears within "The War of 1812: Smith Countians Go to the War", by Sue MAGGART, Smith County Historical and Genealogical Society, Vol. 10, No. 1 (Winter 1998), pages 6 to 12. John ROPER is shown as a Corporal on this Roll. See: http://www.ajlambert.com/history/hst_magg.pdf * * John Y. ROPER first appears within the U.S. Census residing in Smith County, TN, in the 1820 Census enumeration (Indexed as "ROSSIE" at the FamilySearch.org site): John Y ROPER: 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 -- 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 -- 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 [Smith] John Y. ROPER is shown to be age 16 to 25 (b abt 1795-1804). The female in John Y. ROPER's household is shown to be age 26 to 44 (b abt 1776-94). There is a male child under age 10 and a female child under age 10 residing within this household. See: "United States Census, 1820," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHLT-8XB : accessed 06 Apr 2014), John Y Rossie, Not Stated, Smith, Tennessee; citing "1820 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 43, NARA microfilm publication M33, roll 125, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0193687. * John Y. ROPER is enumerated in Sumner County, TN, in 1830, however the record is Indexed as "ROSSER" at FamilySearch.org See: "United States Census, 1830," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHP4-58V : accessed 06 Apr 2014), John Y Rosser, Not Stated, Sumner, Tennessee; citing "1830 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 174, NARA microfilm publication M19, roll 181, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0024539. * John Y. ROPER is again enumerated in Sumner County, TN, in the 1840 Census enuemration. See: "United States Census, 1840," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHT1-VFC : accessed 06 Apr 2014), John Y Roper, Not Stated, Sumner, Tennessee; citing "1840 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 353, NARA microfilm publication M704, roll 534, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0024549. A William ROPER is also enumerated in Sumner County in 1840. See: "United States Census, 1840," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHT1-2F2 : accessed 06 Apr 2014), William Roper, Not Stated, Sumner, Tennessee; citing "1840 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 406, NARA microfilm publication M704, roll 534, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0024549. This seems to possibly be the William ROPER who married Margaret SPENCER on 05 Mar 1835 in Sumner, TN. * In 1850, John Y. ROPER, age 56 (b abt 1794 - NC), is again enumerated residing in Sumner County, TN, with wife Sarah ROPER, age 62 (b abt 1788 - NC). Sarah ROPER is consistent in age with the female shown in the 1820 Census record. Also in this household are another younger John Y. ROPER, age 28, born Tennessee, John E. WOOD, age 16, and Mary E. WOOD, age 15, also each born in Tennessee. John Y. ROPER is shown to own real estate worth $10,000. See: "United States Census, 1850," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/MC69-NZ5 : accessed 06 Apr 2014), John Y Roper, Sumner county, Sumner, Tennessee, United States; citing family 93, NARA microfilm publication M432. In adjacent Smith County, TN, the 1850 Census shows a William ROPER, age 76 (b abt 1776 - NC) together with Elizabeth ROPER, age 56 (b abt 1794). This William ROPER is consistent in age with either the William ROPER (b bef 1776) enumerated in Maury County, TN, in 1820, or the William ROPER (b bef 1776) enumerated in Williamson County, TN, the same year. See: "United States Census, 1850," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-267-11097-126449-57?cc=1401638 : accessed 06 Apr 2014), Tennessee > Smith > Smith county > image 90 of 345; citing NARA microfilm publication M432. * John Y. ROPER is again enumerated in Sumner County, TN, in the 1860 Census enumeration at age 66 (b abt 1794 - NC), giving a second precise indication of his year of birth. See: "United States Census, 1860," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/M8TR-35X : accessed 06 Apr 2014), John Y Roper, District No 1, Sumner, Tennessee, United States; citing "1860 U.S. Federal Census - Population," Fold3.com; p. 97, household ID 665, NARA microfilm publication M653; FHL microfilm 805275. * * This John Y. ROPER seems to have been amongst those victimized by some of the most egregious genealogiscal fraud. He has been falsely ascribed as a son of William ROPER and Keziah YATES, despite the fact that he seems to have been born after Keziah Yates ROPER was almost certainly DEAD. In support of this ascription, these same dishonest researchers have ascribed a middle name "Yates" to this John ROPER, despite the fact taht there seems to be no primary record which would support this ascription. Then, the invented middle name of "Yates" is used to "prove" that this John Y. ROPER is Keziah Yates ROPER's son, seemingly born posthumously. Despite John Y. ROPER's patriotic service as a Veteran of the War of 1812, for which there is an extant Pension Application, rather than celebrating this ancestor and getting his lineage RIGHT, dishonest and lazy researchers have again disgraced the family name and John Y. ROPER's memory by simply making up family connections for which n! o evidence exists at all. Hopefully, one day, some member of this branch of the ROPER family will decide to remove the stain of the fraud by obtaining the Pension Application and actually ascertaining John Y. ROPER's correct lineage. * * * ROBERT ROPER The Index entry for Robert ROPER shows no information as to the identity of his military unit or nature and timing of his service. The Pension Application is shown on the Index card to refer to file numbers: "Wid.Orig. 43026" The application seems to have been made by Ruth ROPER, Robert ROPER's widow [Image 95 of 1052]. See: "United States War of 1812 Index to Pension Application Files, 1812-1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8ZQ-VJQ : accessed 05 Apr 2014), Robert Roper, ; citing military unit , NARA microfilm publication M313, roll 81, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 847511. * * * JOHN ROPPER The Index entry for John ROPPER shows this John ROPPER to have served in Capt. Benjamin HASKELL's Co., Massachusetts Militia. The Pension Application is shown on the Index card to refer to file numbers: "Serv. Orig. 8889" and "Serv. Cert. 4947" [Image 97 of 1052]. See: "United States War of 1812 Index to Pension Application Files, 1812-1910," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/X8ZQ-VJ4 : accessed 05 Apr 2014), John Ropper, ; citing military unit Pvt Capt Benjamin Haskell's Co Mass Mili, NARA microfilm publication M313, roll 81, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 847511. * * * MILDRED A. ROPER Mildred A. ROPER is shown to have married Daniel BLACK on 26 Sep 1818 in Campbell County. Secondary sources show this Mildred to be daughter of William C. ROPER and Frances JACKSON and sister of Henry C. ROPER (b 27 Aug 1799 - VA, d 13 May 1882 - Sarcoxie, Jasper, MO). Obtaining the Pension file for Mildred Roper BLACK might yield some additional insight into this ROPER family. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>