This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper, Rop Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1721.9/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Based upon James ROPER's Pension Application, he was already residing in Logan County, Kentucky by 1810. However, I have NOT yet found ANY promising Logan County Census records for this James ROPER. I have therefore somewhat widened my search to include ALL of Kentucky and have identified several records that seem to merit further scrutiny. There seem to be two James ROP households enumerated within Breckenridge County, Kentucky. Breckenridge County is on the Ohio River about sixty miles due North of Simpson County where James ROPER is later found. These seem to be adjacent households. I haven't examined the Census images yet. "United States Census, 1810," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XH2T-488 : accessed 14 Apr 2014), James Rop, Not Stated, Breckinridge, Kentucky; citing "1810 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 318, line 280, NARA microfilm publication M252, roll 5, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0181350. "United States Census, 1810," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XH2T-48P : accessed 14 Apr 2014), James Rop, Not Stated, Breckinridge, Kentucky; citing "1810 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 319, line 1910, NARA microfilm publication M252, roll 5, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0181350. * There is a James ROP marriage to a Susanna LYON shown within the Kentucky marriage indices to have taken place on 21 Feb 1801 in Bourban County, Kentucky. Bourban County is to the Northeast of Fayette County, where Lexington, KY, is located. I have examined this record and it appears to be a record for James ROSS rather than "ROP" or "ROPER". Of course, since James ROPER, of Simpson, KY, was married to Mary O'NEAL, who outlived him, we are NOT looking for another James ROPER marriage. But examining these primary records helps us to place and possibly eliminate other possible candidates, etc. See: "Kentucky, County Marriages, 1797-1954," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1-9999-21165-27?cc=1804888 : accessed 14 Apr 2014), 004542751 > image 270 of 670; citing Madison County Courthouse, Richmond. * There are two marriage records shown in Hardin County in the early 1800s. The earlier of these is shown to be a marriage of James ROPER to Nancy CARTER on 26 Aug 1830. Capy JOHNSON is apparently shown to be the mother of the bridge. The latter is shown to be a marriage of James ROP to Rachel MILLER on 05 Aug 1838. I have NOT seen either of the underlying records. Hardin County is immediately adjacent to Breckenridge County to the East, lending some credence to the possibility that the 1810 ROP households enumerated in Breckenridge County, KY, might be ROPERs. See: "Kentucky Marriages, 1785-1979," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F4QQ-MMG : accessed 14 Apr 2014), James Roper and Nancy Carter, 26 Aug 1830; citing Hardin, Kentucky, reference bk A pg 201 line 143; FHL microfilm 390788. "Kentucky Marriages, 1785-1979," index, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/F4QQ-DLQ : accessed 14 Apr 2014), James Rop and Rachel Miller, 05 Aug 1838; citing Hardin, Kentucky, reference bk B Line 477; FHL microfilm 390788. There is also apparently a James ROP enumerated in York, South Carolina, in 1810. However, while nearer the 1800 location in Chester, SC, this York location seems even more incompatible with James ROPER's account of his travels after the Revolution. It is also possible that James ROPER was living just across the border from Simpson County in Sumner County, TN, or another border county and wasn't enumerated in any surviving Census since the 1810 U.S. Census returns for Tennessee were lost. Careful examination of the extant Tennessee Tax Lists seems to be indicated. We also need to examine Logan and Simpson County deeds to locate James ROPER's land. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>