This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1899.6/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In my prior post last night "What the Missing 1830 Census Record Should Look Like" (22 Apr 2014 10:20PM GMT), I identified what John ROPER's 1830 Census record should look like by creating a projected Census record from the information in John H. ROPER's family Bible. It turns out that there is an East Tennessee Census record from 1830 which very closely corresponds to that projection, but it is Indexed as a "RAPER" rather than a ROPER record. The actual Census images in this instance are VERY CLEAR. The families shown in Regiment 67, Monroe County, TN, are identified in the records as "ROAPER" rather than either ROPER or RAPER. Both John ROAPER, Junr. and John ROAPER, Senr., are found in adjacent records on the same Census page within Regiment 67, Monroe County, TN, in 1830. I have also identified the heads of household in several of the adjacent records: Agatha PROCK Henry HILE Joseph ELLISON Benjamin FALKINBERRY John MOODY John ROAPER, Jnr.: 0 - 0 - 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 1 - 3 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- No Slaves [Monroe, TN 1830] John ROAPER, Snr.: 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- No Slaves [Monroe, TN 1830] Geroge MADDON Elizabeth ARHART John TOWSON Robert McREYNOLDS Wiley TUCKER James TUCKER, Senr. Tillet WHITLOCK Isaac HARDIN Jonathan MOORE See: "United States Census, 1830," index and images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.1.1/XHPM-666 : accessed 20 Apr 2014), John Raper, Regiment 67, Monroe, Tennessee; citing "1830 United States Federal Census," Ancestry.com; p. 97, NARA microfilm publication M19, roll 175, National Archives and Records Administration, Washington D.C.; FHL microfilm 0024533. * Note that John ROAPER, Jnr. is shown to be age 40 to 49 (b abt 1781-90) with a probable wife age 30 to 39 (b abt 1791-1800). In fact, compare the actual Census record for John ROAPER, of Monroe, TN, in 1830, with my projection of what the Census record OUGHT TO LOOK LIKE given the information shown in John H. ROPER's Bible: John ROPER:.......... 0 - 0 - 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 2 - 3 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 [Projected from Bible record] John ROAPER, Jnr.: 0 - 0 - 2 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 1 - 3 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- No Slaves [Monroe, TN 1830] The ONLY deviation is in the female children under age 5. * * Similarly, note that the female in the immediately adjacent record for John ROAPER, Senr., is shown to be age 70 to 79 (1751-60), compared with Elizabeth ROPER's 1840 Census record showing her to be age 80 to 89. It would be difficult to conceive of a much closer conformance in Census data! Although the latter record is denominated John ROAPER, Senr., the only male in this household is shown to be age 15 to 19. Clearly, this young man cannot be the father of the John ROAPER, Junr., age 40 to 49, in the previous record. The age difference is even inconsistent with this being a younger brother. More likely, this young man in a grandson of the female in John ROAPER, Senr.'s household. It is UNCLEAR from this Census record whether John ROAPER, Senr., is already dead or whether he is simply elsewhere at the date of the Census enumeration. There seems NOT to be an extant probate record for this John ROPER in Monroe County. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>