This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1758.4/mb.ashx Message Board Post: David ROPER (b 08 Jun 1792 - SC, d 17 Apr 1878 - Lawrence, MO) is shown to have served within Captain Edward BUCHANAN's Company from Blount County, Tennessee. See: http://archive.is/HRZ0i Also in Captain BUCHANAN's Company is a Ewel ROPER (or possibly Ewell, Euell or Yewall). * Both David ROPER and Ewel ROPER are shown to have served from January 10, 1814, through May 20, 1814, under Captain BUCHANAN. See: http://www.nps.gov/hobe/upload/tennessee militia.pdf * The Index entries for David ROPER's and Ewel ROPER's War of 1812 Service Record is shown within the Index: Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper, Raper, Rope, Rupe Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1870/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The information below was taken by ME directly from the images within the United States War of 1812 Index to Service Records, 1812-1815. This is a name index to compiled military service records of volunteer soldiers who served in the War of 1812. The files are located in the National Archives in Washington D.C. This collection is a part of RG 94, Records of the Adjutant General's Office, 1780's-1917 and is National Archive Microfilm Publication M602. For additional information about each soldier, the researcher should order a copy of the military service file of the veteran from the National Archives. These images are posted online at the FamilySearch.org website and available for FREE access by those who register for a FREE FamilySearch.org account. See generally: https://familysearch.org/search/collection/1916219 The the names shown below can be directly accessed from within the image file for surname range "Rom - Rou" (2,650 images). The image number of each cited record is given in square brackets. Parentheticals are as shown on the Index record. Some of these records may reflect the SAME veteran serving in more than one militia unit during this interval. Please understand that I have NOT ORDERED NOR HAVE I VIEWED the underlying service records for these ROPER veterans of the War of 1812. The conscientious researcher should ALWAYS examine the underlying primary record. This post is merely a FINDING AID to assist ROPER family historians in identifying relevant primary records and ORDERING those records from the National Archives. The first record shown below is cited by FamilySearch.org as: "United States War of 1812 Index to Service Records, 1812-1815," images, FamilySearch (https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.3.1/TH-1951-21909-23984-29?cc=1916219&wc=M6YX-QZ9:203286001 : accessed 14 Mar 2014), Rom - Rou > image 592 of 2650; citing NARA microfilm publication M602. Most of the remaining records are consecutive, though there are several interspersed records of other families disrupting the record continuity. * * * 1812 VETERANS ALPHABETICALLY ROPE, Henry, Keys Regiment, Ohio Militia (Original filed under James BLARE) [Image 592] ROPE, Jesse, 3 Regiment (Allen's) Mounted Kentucky Vols., Private (Original filed under Jesse ROPER) [Image 593] ROPE, Joseph, 3 Regiment (Allen's) Mounted Kentucky Vols., Private (Original filed under Jesse ROPER?) [Image 594] ROPER, William, Batt'n 7 Reg't (Perkins') Mississippi Militia, Private (Original filed under William RUPE) [Image 595] ROPER, Johnson's Reg't, Mounted, Kentucky Vols., Major [Image 596] ROPER, Andrew, 1 Reg't (Dodd's) New Jersey Militia, Private [Image 597] ROPER, Benjamin, 52 Reg't (Christian's) Virginia Militia, Sergeant [Image 598] ROPER, Benjamin D., Howard's Detachment, South Carolina Militia [Image 599] ROPER, Charles, Dyer's Reg't, Cavalry and Mtd. Gunmen, Tennessee Volunteers ROPER, Daniel, Captain Stuntz's Company, Illinois Militia, Private (Original filed under Daniel RAPER) [Image 601] ROPER, David, Bunch's Reg't (1814), E. Tennessee Militia, Private [Image 602] ROPER, David, 6 Reg't (Daingerfield's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 603] ROPER, David, 19 Regiment (Ambler's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 604] ROPER, David Y., 2 Reg't (Cocke's) W. Tennessee Militia, Corporal [Image 605] ROPER, Edward, 52 Reg't (Christian's) Virginia Militia, Cornet [Image 606] ROPER, Ewel, Bunch's Reg't (1814), E. Tennessee Militia, Private [Image 607] ROPER, Ezra (Delamater's), New York Militia, Private [Image 608] ROPER, Frederick, Middlecreek Company (Gibb'), Private, North Carolina Militia {Image 609] ROPER, George, 2 Reg't (Ballowe's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 610] ROPER, George, 8 Reg't (Wall's) Virginia Militia, Private ( See also Alexander HERRON)[Image 611] ROPER, George, 19 Regiment (Ambler's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 612] ROPER, George, 68 Regiment (Lt. Col. Walker / Lt. Col. Bassett) Virginia Militia [Image 613] ROPER, George W., 2 Reg't (Cheatham's) W. Tennessee Militia, Private [Image 614] ROPER, Green, 16 Reg't (Burrus') Mississippi Militia, Private [Image 615] ROPER, Henry, 1 Reg't (Yancey's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 616] ROPER, Henry 4 Regiment Virginia Militia (Lt. Col. McDowell, Lt. Col. Koontz, Lt. Col. Chilton) [Image 617] ROPER, Henry, 5 Regiment Virginia Militia, Private [Image 618] ROPER, Isaac, 52 Reg't (Christian's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 619] ROPER, James, Johnson's Regiment, Mounted, Kentucky Volunteers, Private (Original filed under James RAPER)[Image 620] ROPER, James, 2 Corps d'Elite (Green's) Virginia Militia, Private (See also John BLACK) [Image 621] ROPER, James, 4 Regiment Maryland Militia, Private [Image 622] ROPER, James, 19 Regiment (Ambler's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 623] ROPER, James, 52 Reg't (Christian's) Virginia Militia, 1 Sergeant [Image 624] ROPER, Jesse, 3 Regiment (Allen's) Mounted, Kentucky Vols., Private [Image 625] ROPER, John, 1 Reg't (Yancey's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 626] ROPER, John, 1 Rifle Regiment (Allen's), Kentucky Volunteers, Private [Image 627] ROPER, John, 2 Reg't (Elwell, Jr.'s) Massachusett's Militia, Private [Image 628] ROPER, John, 2 Reg't (Lillard's) East Tennessee Volunteers, Captain [Image 629] ROPER, John, 2 Reg't (Sharp's) Virginia Militia, Private (See also 3 Regt. (Boykins) Virginia Militia) [Image 630] ROPER, John, 2 Reg't Mounted Gunmen (Williamson's) Tennessee Volunteers, Corporal [Image 631] ROPER, John, 6 Reg't (Coleman's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 632] ROPER, John, 6 Reg't Art'y (Read, Jr.'s) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 633] ROPER, John, 23 Regiment (Brown's) Virginia Militia, Sergeant [Image 634] ROPER, John, 33 Reg't (Mayo's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 635] ROPER, John, 39 Regiment Virginia Militia, Private [Image 636] ROPER, John, 52 Reg't (Christian's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 637] ROPER, John M., 2 Corps d'Elite (Green's) Virginia Militia, Private [638] ROPER, Richard, Capt. Booker's Company, U.S. Volunteers (Richmond Washington Vols.), Private [Image 639] ROPER, Richard, 1 Corps d'Elite (Randolph's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 643] ROPER, Richard, 2 Reg't (Sharp's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 644] ROPER, Solomon, Capt. Steville's Co., North Carolina Militia, Private [Image 645] ROPER, Stephen, 1 Reg't (4 Brig., 1 Div.), Ohio Militia, Private [Image 646] ROPER, Thomas, 7 Reg't (Pearson's) North Carolina Militia [Image 647] ROPER, Wesley, Middlecreek Company (Gibbs'), North Carolina Militia, Private [Image 648] ROPER, Wesley, 2 Reg't (Tisdale's) North Carolina Militia, Private (See also Daniel STANLEY) [Image 649] ROPER, William, 1 Reg't (Trueheart's) Virginia Militia, Corporal [Image 650] ROPER, William, 2 Reg't (Ballowe's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 651] ROPER, William, 17 Reg't (Francesco's) Kentucky Militia, Private (See also Charles THORNTON) [Image 652] ROPER, William, 52 Reg't (Christian's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 653] * * BY STATE AND UNIT ILLINOIS ROPER, Daniel, Captain Stuntz's Company, Illinois Militia, Private (Original filed under Daniel RAPER) [Image 601] * KENTUCKY ROPER, John, 1 Rifle Regiment (Allen's), Kentucky Volunteers, Private [Image 627] Jesse ROPE, 3 Regiment (Allen's) Mounted Kentucky Vols., Private (Original filed under Jesse ROPER) [Image 593] Joseph ROPE, 3 Regiment (Allen's) Mounted Kentucky Vols., Private (Original filed under Jesse ROPER?) [Image 594] ROPER, Jesse, 3 Regiment (Allen's) Mounted, Kentucky Vols., Private [Image 625] ROPER, William, 17 Reg't (Francesco's) Kentucky Militia, Private (See also Charles THORNTON) [Image 652] ROPER, Johnson's Reg't, Mounted, Kentucky Vols., Major [Image 596] ROPER, James, Johnson's Regiment, Mounted, Kentucky Volunteers, Private (Original filed under James RAPER)[Image 620] * MARYLAND ROPER, James, 4 Regiment Maryland Militia, Private [Image 622] * MASSACHUSETTS ROPER, John, 2 Reg't (Elwell, Jr.'s) Massachusett's Militia, Private [Image 628] * MISSISSIPPI ROPER, William, Batt'n 7 Reg't (Perkins') Mississippi Militia, Private (Original filed under William RUPE) [Image 595] ROPER, Green, 16 Reg't (Burrus') Mississippi Militia, Private [Image 615] * NEW YORK ROPER, Ezra (Delamater's), New York Militia, Private [Image 608] * NEW JERSEY ROPER, Andrew, 1 Reg't (Dodd's) New Jersey Militia, Private [Image 597] * NORTH CAROLINA ROPER, Wesley, 2 Reg't (Tisdale's) North Carolina Militia, Private (See also Daniel STANLEY) [Image 649] ROPER, Thomas, 7 Reg't (Pearson's) North Carolina Militia [Image 647] ROPER, Solomon, Capt. Steville's Co., North Carolina Militia, Private [Image 645] ROPER, Frederick, Middlecreek Company (Gibb'), Private, North Carolina Militia {Image 609] ROPER, Wesley, Middlecreek Company (Gibbs'), North Carolina Militia, Private [Image 648] * OHIO ROPER, Stephen, 1 Reg't (4 Brig., 1 Div.), Ohio Militia, Private [Image 646] ROPE, Henry, Keys Regiment, Ohio Militia (Original filed under James BLARE) [Image 592] * SOUTH CAROLINA ROPER, Benjamin D., Howard's Detachment, South Carolina Militia [Image 599] * TENNESSEE ROPER, David, Bunch's Reg't (1814), E. Tennessee Militia, Private [Image 602] ROPER, Ewel, Bunch's Reg't (1814), E. Tennessee Militia, Private [Image 607] ROPER, John, 2 Reg't (Lillard's) East Tennessee Volunteers, Captain [Image 629] ROPER, David Y., 2 Reg't (Cocke's) W. Tennessee Militia, Corporal [Image 605] ROPER, George W., 2 Reg't (Cheatham's) W. Tennessee Militia, Private [Image 614] ROPER, John, 2 Reg't Mounted Gunmen (Williamson's) Tennessee Volunteers, Corporal [Image 631] ROPER, Charles, Dyer's Reg't, Cavalry and Mtd. Gunmen, Tennessee Volunteers * VIRGINIA ROPER, Richard, 1 Corps d'Elite (Randolph's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 643] ROPER, William, 1 Reg't (Trueheart's) Virginia Militia, Corporal [Image 650] ROPER, Henry, 1 Reg't (Yancey's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 616] ROPER, John, 1 Reg't (Yancey's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 626] ROPER, James, 2 Corps d'Elite (Green's) Virginia Militia, Private (See also John BLACK) [Image 621] ROPER, John M., 2 Corps d'Elite (Green's) Virginia Militia, Private [638] ROPER, George, 2 Reg't (Ballowe's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 610] ROPER, William, 2 Reg't (Ballowe's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 651] ROPER, John, 2 Reg't (Sharp's) Virginia Militia, Private (See also 3 Regt. (Boykins) Virginia Militia) [Image 630] ROPER, Richard, 2 Reg't (Sharp's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 644] ROPER, Henry 4 Regiment Virginia Militia (Lt. Col. McDowell, Lt. Col. Koontz, Lt. Col. Chilton) [Image 617] ROPER, Henry, 5 Regiment Virginia Militia, Private [Image 618] ROPER, John, 6 Reg't (Coleman's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 632] ROPER, David, 6 Reg't (Daingerfield's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 603] ROPER, John, 6 Reg't Art'y (Read, Jr.'s) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 633] ROPER, George, 8 Reg't (Wall's) Virginia Militia, Private ( See also Alexander HERRON)[Image 611] ROPER, David, 19 Regiment (Ambler's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 604] ROPER, George, 19 Regiment (Ambler's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 612] ROPER, James, 19 Regiment (Ambler's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 623] ROPER, John, 23 Regiment (Brown's) Virginia Militia, Sergeant [Image 634] ROPER, John, 33 Reg't (Mayo's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 635] ROPER, John, 39 Regiment Virginia Militia, Private [Image 636] ROPER, Benjamin, 52 Reg't (Christian's) Virginia Militia, Sergeant [Image 598] ROPER, Edward, 52 Reg't (Christian's) Virginia Militia, Cornet [Image 606] ROPER, Isaac, 52 Reg't (Christian's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 619] ROPER, James, 52 Reg't (Christian's) Virginia Militia, 1 Sergeant [Image 624] ROPER, John, 52 Reg't (Christian's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 637] ROPER, William, 52 Reg't (Christian's) Virginia Militia, Private [Image 653] ROPER, George, 68 Regiment (Lt. Col. Walker / Lt. Col. Bassett) Virginia Militia [Image 613] ROPER, Richard, Capt. Booker's Company, U.S. Volunteers (Richmond Washington Vols.), Private [Image 639] * * * Note 1: Other ROPERs may have served in local militias which were not called to national service in the War of 1812 / Creek War. Other local militia information may be found in state archives. Note 2: I checked under "ROOPER" and found no records. I did NOT check and report on records filed under "RAPER" and "ROSSER". Several records shown that also reference ROPE or RAPER were in the immediate ROPER sequence. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper, Cannon Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/608.9/mb.ashx Message Board Post: A recent discovery that James ROPER (b abt 1786 - NC) was married to Peggy McNALLY in Blount, TN, on 23 Dec 1819, by Methodist minister Rev. William FAGG may explain both the origin of William Fagg ROPER's (b 10 May 1819) given name, as well as the point of origin of David ROPER and Rebecca CANNON in Blount County, TN. See my post: "Significance of the Given Name of David ROPER's son William Fagg ROPER (b 10 May 1819 - TN)" (17 Mar 2014 7:03PM GMT) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1758.3/mb.ashx Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper, Cannon Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1758.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Quite by accident (in terms of David ROPER and Rebecca CANNON), I stumbled across a primary record several days ago which seems to me to both reveal the source and basis of the given name of David ROPER's son William Fagg ROPER and to suggest a possible point of origin for this David ROPER in East Tennessee. I was examining the image of the original primary record for the marriage of James ROPER to Peggy McNally on 23 Dec 1819 in Blount County, TN, and found that this couple had been married by Rev. William FAGG, of the Methodist Episcopal Church. I previously noted this find within Frank BATCHELOR's thread "James Roper, Thomas Roper and Philip L. Roper" in this post: "James ROPER (b abt 1786 - NC) m Peggy McNALLY in Blount, TN, on 23 Dec 1819" (14 Mar 2014 3:41AM GMT) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1787.5.1/mb.ashx I had previously noted the presence of James ROPER (b abt 1786 - NC) in Monroe County in the 1850 Census in this post within the same thread: "Error in Inferred Year of Birth of James ROPER (b abt 1786 - NC)" (14 Mar 2014 1:15AM GMT) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1787.5/mb.ashx * * * I had previously called attention to the biographical sketch of a William F. ROPER within this post about a decade ago: "Biography of William F. ROPER (b 10 May 1819 - TN)" (24 May 2003 5:17PM GMT) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/608/mb.ashx Secondary sources showed the middle name of this William F. ROPER as "Fagg," though I have never seen a primary record that supports this particular ascription. See my post: "Obituary of Bill David ROPER (b 5 Jun 1934 - MO, d 25 Oct 1999 - Carthage, Jasper, MO)" (24 May 2003 7:13AM GMT) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/606/mb.ashx * * * While making an ascription based upon linking a primary record in one place to a secondary source assertion in another place is admittedly a little tenuous, it seems to me that the marriage of James ROPER by a Rev. William FAGG in Blount County on 23 Dec 1819 and the naming of a child William Fagg ROPER born in East Tennessee on 10 May 1819 cannot be a coincidence! That Blount County was the place of marriage of a contemporaneous ROPER shows the presence of a ROPER family in that place at the date of William Fagg ROPER's birth. David ROPER, of Greene, MO, was known to be active in the Methodist Church. Blount County, TN, and adjacent counties seems to be a place to look for David ROPER prior to his migration to Missouri! Researchers with an interest in this ROPER family are encouraged to make a thorough study of the primary records in Blount County, Tennessee, and adjacent counties. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: batchelorw Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1698.5.1.2.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bill, Caly Cannon shows up in the 1880 Precinct 6, Hopkins, TX census as age 17, b. abt 1863, Texas. She is shown as the daughter of Rebecca Cannon, age 44, b. Georgia, Caly's father, who is not in the census record, is shown as born in Tennessee. The rest of the children that are listed are Louisa Cannon, age 20; Texana Cannon, age 15;Thos. Cannon,age 13; James Cannon, age 11; and Cora Cannon, age 9. Rebecca's mother was born in GA. Rebecca's father appears to have been born in SC, but it is difficult to read. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: batchelorw Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1698.5.1.2.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Bill, Callie Lawson is incorrect. Philip L Roper and Mary Oden had a son named Charles J. Roper, b. 1852, d. Dec. 27, 1927, Mt. Vernon, Franklin County, TX. His death certificate is where I eventually found proof that Charles J. Roper married Mary Oden. His death certificate only says that he was widowed. Secondary sources have shown both a Callie Cannon and a Callie Lawson as being the wife of Charles J. Roper. Charles J. Roper and Callie had a son that they named Andy Lawson Roper. Andy in turn named a child Callie. Because of the middle name of Lawson, some researches, including me apparently, may have thought that Callie was a Lawson. However, Charles J. Roper and Callie had a son named Albert G. Roper, b. January 22, 1891 in Hopkins County, TX; d. August 19, 1962, Dallas, TX.. His death certificate, which states that he is "Albert C. Roper", says that his parents were Charles Roper and Callie Cannon. I am sure that this Albert G. Roper and Albert C. Roper are the same person. There is an application for a headstone for Veterans of the War by Albert G. Roper's wife, Elsie (Mae Bussell) Roper, dated September 4, 1962, In that application, the birth and death dates for Albert G. Roper match the dates for Albert C. Roper. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper, Cannon Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1698.5.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Frank: In this post from two years ago, you stated: > "In your article, you mention, Andy Lawson Roper, b. abt 1890, son of Charles Roper m. > Callie Lawson. (My secondary sources show that his wife was Callie T.Cannon, b. Mar 1869, > d. Mar 8, 1904, Hopkins, TX, but I have no further information on this.)" It occurs to me to wonder whether your secondary source is CORRECT in identifying this as a CANNON marriage. Of course, if Callie was a widow, BOTH surnames might be correct. Given the tendency in years past for cousins to migrate together, I cannot help but wonder whether a ROPER - CANNON intermarriage in Texas might somehow further inform us as to the identity and origin of the family of the Rebecca CANNON who is shown to have married David ROPER, of Greene County, MO. This is admittedly a bit of a long shot, but some resolution of Callie LAWSON or CANNON's correct identity and the identity of her parents just might lead us to some other relation of Rebecca CANNON's. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper, Paul Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1743.6.1.3/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Frank: In your prior post, you explain: > "It is most probable that the John Roper of Halifax, VA, who can be seen buying property in > Caswell, NC in about 1798, and who is the only Roper shown in deed records in Caswell, NC > between 1800-1810, with the exception of his son Henry Roper, was the father of David Roper, > who married Nancy Lewis in 1802 in Caswell, NC. This if further supported by the John Roper, > aka John Roper, Sr. and his son John Roper, Jr. moving to Cumberland County, KY to appear > in the 1820 census where his son David Roper is residing." There is a Will abstract shown within the book "Caswell County, North Carolina, Will Books, 1777-1814 ; 1784 Tax List", By Katharine Kerr Kendall, Mary Frances Kerr Donaldson at p. 76, showing the payment of a legacy by Samuel PAUL's estate to a David ROPER. The reference is to a Settlement appearing at page 54, of Will Book D for Caswell County. The distribution is shown to have been made on 03 Feb 1801 and reported at the April 1801 Court. Dave summarizes this abstract: "Caswell Co. NC Will Books 1777-1814: p.76: Div estate of Saml. Paul to Jesse Bennett who married Pattey Paul, to Richard Kiggans who married Rachel Cox the daughter of said Saml. Paul, to Robert Paul, to David Roper, to James Paul, and to Judith Paul widow. 3 Feb 1801. Div by Dudley Gatewood, Richd. Sanders, Starling Gunn." See: http://www.roperld.com/rnc18.htm This distribution seems to have taken place shortly before David ROPER's Caswell marriage to Nancy LEWIS on 13 Jul 1801. * The sale of property of Samuel PAUL deceased is reported Caswell Will Book D, Page 22, and curiously the Inventory is afterwards reported at Page 33. * Have you seen the underlying probate records for Samuel PAUL's estate? How does Samuel PAUL connect to David ROPER. of Caswell, NC? Do you think this reflects a previous marriage by this David ROPER? Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper, Patillo, Reeves, Archibald Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1869/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Recently, within several posts in a thread by researcher Frank BATCHELOR, Frank and I have been debating the correct interpretation of the 1790 ROPER Census data for Rutherford, North Carolina. One of the contentious subjects in those posts is the correct meaning to ascribe to the inclusion within the 1790 enumeration of a Rev. David ROPER. Because the correct interpretation of the 1790 Census data may be crucial to resolving some difficult issues in Federal period ROPER genealogy, I thought it useful to dedicate a thread to the discussion of this issue. * There are four ROPERs in the 1790 Rutherford Census in all. This post is focused solely on Rev. David ROPER and the meaning to ascribe to the indication "Rev." There are the ROPERs shown in the 1790 Census for Rutherford, North Carolina: ROPER, David Rev.: 1 - 1 -- 5 -- 0 - 0 ROPER, Charles: 1 - 2 -- 5 -- 0 - 0 ROPER, David Jr.: 1 - 1 -- 1 -- 0 - 0 ROPER, Meredith: 3 - 1 -- 4 -- 0 - 0 Thus, Rev. David ROPER is shown in 1790 to have one male age 16 or more, one male under age 16 and five females within his household. * Conventional wisdom was that the Census record meant what it said and that "Rev.", a common abbreviation for "Reverend" was an honorific reflecting that the first named David ROPER was a minister or preacher of some sort. One trouble with this ascription or interpretation is that there doesn't seem to be any primary record yet found expressly confirming that there was a David ROPER serving as a preacher or minister in this time period in North Carolina. Even so, until a decade or so ago there seemed to be little dispute as to the meaning of "Rev." within this record. However, at some point, one or more ROPER researchers began arguing that "Rev." was a designation showing that this David ROPER was a Revolutionary War Veteran rather than a preacher or minister. L. David ROPER makes a reasonably compelling argument that "Rev." David ROPER might be the David ROPER found in Orange, NC, beginning about 1757, and the father of Revolutionary War Veteran David ROPER (b Oct 1755 - Orange, NC) in his published sketch on Meredith ROPER: "The Mysterious Meredith/Meriday Roper in NC" http://www.roperld.com/rncmer.htm In particular, Dave proposes: "So, David Roper Sr. possibly moved to Rutherford Co. in 1779/80, when the younger Revolutionary War David Roper stated that he moved there, and back to Caswell Co. after 1790 and before 1792. The younger David then moved to Kentucky:place>:State> in 1796." This interpretation of the data is a very reasonable construction as long as one focuses on the other facts recited in Dave's piece as to land transactions, completing IGNORING the "Rev." shown within the Census records. Although not mentioned in Dave's piece, ignoring the "Rev." in the Census record seems to be rationalized ONLY by concluding that "Rev." means Revolutionary War veteran rather than Reverend. But Dave actually goes exactly in the opposite direction ascribing the Revolutionary War Veteran as the David ROPER Jr. in the Rutherford Census record (which I believe is correct), while proposing that Rev. David ROPER is David ROPER's (b Oct 1755 - Orange, NC) father. The trouble with this ascription is that we KNOW from David ROPER's Revolutionary War pension application that he is illiterate. By contrast, it seems inconceivable that a minister (Rev.) is going to be illiterate, and teaching his children to read would seem to be something that ought to be particularly important to a minister. I find it very hard to reconcile Rev. ROPER being a minister with Rev. ROPER being the father of the Revolutionary War Veteran. In the piece on Meredith ROPER, Dave skirts the issue by simply omitting discussion of it. * Similarly, Frank BATCHELOR has another theory about the identities of the two David ROPERs in Rutherford that relies upon a marriage record in Rutherford, as well as records in Caswell and Pickens to argue that the Census record for Rev. David ROPER is actually the Census record of Revolutionary War Veteran David ROPER (b Oct 1755). Frank's construction requires adoption of the theory that "Rev." means Revolutionary War Veteran rather than "Reverend". I will let Frank make his own case rather than further elaborating and possibly explaining his theory erroneously. * * * Without regard to the secondary arguments that can be made about how EACH David ROPER fits into Federal Period ROPER genealogy, I want to address rather starkly the primary arguments which seem to me to frame the question about the significance and interpretation of the indication "Rev." on the Census record. First, it seems to me to be beyond question that "Rev." is a common abbreviation for Reverend and when appended in front of a name as an honorific usually denotes a person of the cloth. This does NOT preclude from using this same abbreviation to mean something else. But presented to a jury or focus group with no other evidence or context, I believe that there would be almost universal agreement that "Rev." means "Reverend." Even so, I do not contend that this is dispositive, but rather only that there is probably some presumption that must be overcome in order to conclude that "Rev." means something else. * Those who contend that "Rev." denotes that this David ROPER is a Revolutionary War Veteran BEGIN with the ex ante KNOWLEDGE that one of the two David ROPERs in Rutherford is later a Revolutionary War pensioner and then seem to argue that this distinguishes him from others in Rutherford, justifying the "Rev." as an honorific in respect of his veteran status. If this argument was being made in respect of a Census record in 1830 or 1840, it might be persuasive. But to make this argument in respect of a 1790 records seems to me to reflect a rather careless disregard for history and population demographics. Although statistics as to participation in the Revolutionary War vary, it is generally believed that about 250,000 American, mostly men upwards of age 16, fought at some point during the eight year history of the Revolution, even though at peak enlistments only about 90,000 ever served actively in the Continental Army and militias at any given time. To put this into context, the enumerated total population of the United States in 1790 was 3.893 million. Of these, 694,280 were slaves and 1.541 million were women. Of the men, 807,094 were age 16 and up in 1790. Since the Revolutionary War ended in 1784, this figure included all males age 10 and up at the surrender at Yorktown. If one takes the total number who served -- 250,000 -- as the numerator and divides by 807,094, one finds that about 31% of the male population of America seems to have served in the Revolution. Of course, participation varied by state and county. In Rutherford, NC, there were 1,181 household enumerated in 1790, including 1,577 males age 16 or more. If Revolutionary War participation Rutherford was typical of the overall U.S. male population age 16 or more, about 31%, then about 489 Rutherford adult males were Revolutionary War Veterans. Even if participation had been only 10%, that would still be about 158 veterans. But only ONE resident of Rutherford is shown to have an indication of "Rev." by his name. Statewide, in North Carolina, only FOUR heads of households are shown to be "Rev.". These were Rev. PATILLO, of Granville, NC; Rev. REEVES, of Orange, NC; Rev. Robert ARCHIBALD, of Mecklenburg, NC, and Rev. David ROPER, of Rutherford. Rev. Henry PATILLO, of Granville, is KNOWN to have been a Presbyterian minister. See, for example: The North Carolina Booklet, Volume 10, By Martha Helen Haywood, Mrs. Hubert Haywood, Mary Hilliard Hinton, Mrs. E. E. Moffitt (July 1910), pp. 73, 90, 206, 209: http://books.google.com/books?id=YQkyAQAAMAAJ&dq=Patillo Granville NC minister 1790&pg=PA73#v=onepage&q&f=false There were at least two Rev. REEVES in North Carolina, Rev. Thomas REEVES and Rev. Benjamin REEVES. Rev. Thomas REEVES, is KNOWN to have lived for many years in Orange County, NC. See: Lives of Christian Ministers: Over Two Hundred Memoirs, By Peter Jefferson Kernodle (Richmond, VA: L. H. Jenkins, 1909), at pp. 62-3: http://books.google.com/books?id=bKbSAAAAMAAJ&dq=Rev. Reeves Orange NC minister&pg=PA62#v=onepage&q&f=false Rev. Robert ARCHIBALD, a Presbyterian minister educated at Princeton, is KNOWN to have resided at Mecklenburg, NC. He is mentioned extensively within the book Sketches of North Carolina: Historical and Biographical, by William Henry FOOTE: http://books.google.com/books?id=MSX9MUK3BH0C&dq=Rev. "Robert ARCHIBALD" Mecklenburg NC minister&pg=PA426#v=onepage&q&f=false An excerpt from a letter written by Rev. ARCHIBALD from Mecklenburg on November 3, 1785, is shown at page 426 of this book. * * * So one possibility is that Revolutionary War Veteran David ROPER (b Oct 1755 - Orange, NC), an illiterate private with an otherwise undistinguished War record, was designated as "Rev.", while the other 157 or more Rutherford Revolutionary veterans didn't merit this designation. Or maybe "Rev." was simply intended to reflect the ordinary meaning of the abbreviation, as it seems to have been in the ONLY three other designations of "Rev." appearing within the 1790 Census. * * * If I seem to be belaboring this point, it is because correct interpretation of the primary data should INFORM our inquiry and suggest to us other possible avenues of investigation and sources of primary material that might resolve these difficult issues. By IGNORING the obvious, we waste inordinate amounts of time LOOKING IN THE WRONG PLACES. Moreover, we should form our hypotheses based upon reasonable interpretations of the available data rather than seeking to rationalize WHY the data ought to be ignored or giving a strained reading to the data. * I refrain here from even addressing the secondary arguments as to the identities of the ROPERs in the Rutherford enumeration. The secondary arguments are interesting. It is NOT that Dave ROPER's construction of an argument that Rev. David ROPER might be David ROPER's (Oct. 1755) father is wholly without merit. The deed records and other documents might readily support such an ascription if one IGNORES the obvious conclusion that David ROPER was a minister. Similarly, Frank BATCHELOR's arguments about the possible connections of David ROPER, of Caswell, NC, to the Rutherford ROPERs in 1790 also has merit. But the argument as now presented seems to me to collapse as soon as one recognizes the obvious, that David ROPER, of Rutherford was ascribed the honorific "Rev.", NOT because of his status as a veteran, but because of his role as a minister. * * * Counterargument and discussion, especially by L. David ROPER and Frank BATCHELOR is encouraged, solicited and appreciated. In my view, a healthy and spirited discussion promotes an eventual convergence and embrace of the stronger arguments! Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1868/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Within the book "American Militia in the Frontier Wars, 1790-1796," by Murtie June Clark, there are identified two ROPERs who were called into United States service as part of the Kentucky frontier militia: George ROPER is shown within a muster roll of a Company of Volunteers under the command of Captain William LEWIS, Lt. Col. William RUSSELL's Regiment, in the Service of the United States. This company seems to have served from September 20 to November 11, 1793, and was mustered out at Fort Washington on November 11, 1793. In remarks, George ROEPR is shown to have served October 2 to November 9. [National Archives RG94:54 Box 4] (Page 31) Stephen ROPER is shown to have served in the Company of Mounted Volunteers under the command of Capt. Joseph COLVIN, Major Notley CONN's Battalion, in the service of the United States from July 10, to October 23, 1794. He is shown to have lost his horse on September 26, 1794. [National Archives RG94:54 Box 3] (Page 47) See: American Militia in the Frontier Wars, 1790-1796, by Murtie June Clark (Baltimore, MD: Genealogical Publishing Company, 1990) Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1752.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Purchases of land by James ROPER in 1809 near Huntsville are noted within the book Early History of Huntsville, Alabama, 1804-1870, By Edward Chambers Betts, at pages 21 to 23. The information about James ROPER is minimal, but gives some context to the sales records. This book is available online at Google Books: http://books.google.com/books?id=GVLFte9PRv0C&dq=madison county Alabama Roper&pg=PA21#v=onepage&q&f=false Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1866/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The following early ROPER Wills in Alabama are identified within the book "Index To Alabama Wills, 1808-1870": ROPER, J.W., Shelby, Wills E, 1845-50, Page 1 ROPER, Joseph, Wills H, 1847-66, Page 887 ROPER, Mary, Madison, PR 6, 1832-4, Page 435 ROPER, Nancy J., Mobile, Wills 4, 1870-8, Page 50 ROPER, Sarah L., Lowndes, Wills C, 1861-99, Page 64 ROPER, William F., Dallas, Wills A, 1821-49, Page 159 Index To Alabama Wills, 1808-1870, Compiled by the Alabama Society of the Daughters of the American Revolution, 1955 (Baltimore: Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., 1977), Page 141. The indicated date ranges seem to be the dates encompassed within the Volume rather than dates the Will was made or specifically proven. Several ROPER families seem to have settled within Alabama while it was still part of the Mississippi Territory at a very early date and some of these also seem to have later drifted up into Tennessee. Sorting out early Alabama ROPER family connections may assist in understanding some of the cloudy Tennessee ROPER connections, as well as connections back to Virginia, North Carolina and South Carolina. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1865/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Within the public documents of the House of Representatives, there is a deposition of Henry B. ROPER, who seemed to act as Registrar during an election which was contested. The contest is characterized as William M. LOWE v. Joseph WHEELER. I found this deposition with the book "Index to the Miscellaneous Documents of the House of Representatives for the First Session of the Forty Seventh Congress, 1881-82, in 27 Volumes" (Washington: Government Printing Office, 1882). The LOWE v. WHEELER matter is shown to be Miscellaneous Document No. 22. The deposition can be found at pages 527-31. http://books.google.com/books?id=v1lHAQAAIAAJ&lpg=PA35&ots=1diB-BQu-f&dq=madison county Alabama Roper&pg=PA527#v=onepage&q&f=false Henry ROPER seems to be mention in numerous other placed within the Volume. I stumbled across this online while looking for something else and thought it might be of interest to someone connected to the Madison, AL, ROPER family. I have NOT fully studied this material, assessed the information or sought to identify or place this Henry B. ROPER but thought it better to post some information as a finding aid both to return and examine it later and to improve the visibility and accessibility of this material for others. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
Hello, Dee, Thank you for this post, but if you want to ensure that your reply to a List post is seen by the original poster, please remember the difference between regular posts sent to the ROPER List and posts that have been gatewayed from the ROPERX Board. Remember that most Board posters are NOT subscribed to the corresponding List. ALL THE RECENT POSTS that have been sent to the List have been gatewayed. If the post in question begins with: This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. then it has been gatewayed. PLEASE RE-READ the Important Note at the very bottom of the post that gave rise to your reply. This "Important Note" reads as follows: "Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board." If you are unsure of the difference of dont know what to do, please contact me off-list at: mailto:ROPER-admin@rootsweb.com . Thanks. Peter ROPER List Admin. -----Original Message----- From: roper-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:roper-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Dee Horn Sent: Saturday, March 15, 2014 01:01 To: ROPER-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROPER] (no subject) sending your letter with google web sites that i found hope they will be helpful There is an old grave marker in the Montgomery Cemetery, Grant Parish, LA) showing the interment of a John W. ROPER (b 20 Dec 1813, d 15 Apr 1862 - Grant, LA). https://www.google.com/search?q=John+William+ROPER+born+December+17%2C+1813% 2C+died+in+1862+M+Martha+Elvira+Holloway&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozi lla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs https://www.google.com/search?q=John+W.+ROPER+%28b+20+Dec+1813%2C+d+15+Apr+1 862+-+Grant%2C+LA%29.&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official& client=firefox-a&channel=rcs https://www.google.com/search?q=Martha+Elvira+Holloway&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq= t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs Martha Elvira Holloway ROPER is shown to be interred within the Salado Cemetery, Bell County, Texas. The grave marker is modern. Photos of both this grave marker and of Martha Elivra Holloway ROPER appear at the Find a Grave site: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Roper&GSbyrel=all&GSdy =1901&GSdyrel=before&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GSsr=41&GRid=52960809&df=all& * * * Secondary sources suggest that this John W. ROPER is the son of Daniel ROPER and Elizabeth ADAMS and that he was born in Edgefield, South Carolina. https://www.google.com/search?q=Daniel+ROPER+and+Elizabeth+ADAMS&ie=utf-8&oe =utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROPER-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/550.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: James: I have recently been making some concerted effort to sort through the relationships of the pioneer Tennessee ROPERs. This is difficult enough given the scarcity of the data, but is all the more confusing due to the number of various false and speculative ascriptions. In my view, any investigation needs to be grounded in verifiable facts supported by primary evidence. David Y. ROPER appears within the Census enumerated in Maury County in 1820 and 1830. David Y. ROPER is enumerated within Giles County in 1840. David Y ROPER: 2 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 -- 1 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 0 -- 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 [Maury, TN 1820] David Y. ROPER: 0 - 1 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 2 - 0 - 1 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 1 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 2 - 5 - 5 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 1 - 3 - 3 - 1 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 -- 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 - 0 [Maury, TN 1830] In 1820, David Y. ROPER is shown to be age 26 to 44 in 1820 (b 1776-94). In 1830, David Y. ROPER is shown to be age 40 to 49 (b abt 1771-80). The data for 1820 and 1830 taken together suggests that David was born about 1776-80. I am not currently subscribed to Ancestry for Census access. L. David ROPER's Tennessee ROPER page suggests that David Y. ROPER was still age 40 to 49 in the 1840 Census. See: http://www.roperld.com/rtn1719.htm I haven't re-verified the 1840 data myself. It might support a later date of birth. See also my post: "ROPERs Households in the 1820 Census for Tennessee" (1 Mar 2014 4:29AM) http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.roper/1856.1/mb.ashx * * * David Y. ROPER is interred in the Lucy Cemetery in Giles County, TN. The grave marker for David Y. ROPER actually says that David Y. ROPER "Died Sept 1st 1843 in the 65th year of his age." An image of the grave marker appears at the Find A Grave website. In my view, the specific date given on an ancient grave marker ought to be given greater weight than the less specific age ranges shown in a census enumeration, which might be more casually provided by a member of the household without exact knowledge of David Y. ROPER's age. * The 1782 date given in many Internet postings seems to have been simply invented to make the ascription as a son of William ROPER and Keziah YATES plausible. Similarly, David Y. ROPER has been ascribed the middle name "Yates" when there seems to be no evidence to support such an ascription. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: JamesPilkinton Surnames: Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/550.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Thank you for revising this 12 year old thread. I had forgotten about it. Good point about the age discrepancy. I hope you can set me straight and post some credible information. I would love to have something definitive. Over a decade ago, I am sure I saw those speculative dates from some other researcher on the internet and of course they are most assuredly incorrect. Thank you again ahead of time for clearing the record and posting the real dates or David Ropers actual parents. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper, Yates Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/550.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: In our post, you state: "David Roper's parents were William (born 1766) and Keziah stb Yates." What is the basis of your belief that David Y. ROPER was a son of William ROPER and Keziah YATES? Do you have any evidence that this couple had a son born out of wedlock four years prior to their marriage when (based upon your conjecture) William ROPER was twelve years old? I do not find this assertion to be credible. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
sending your letter with google web sites that i found hope they will be helpful There is an old grave marker in the Montgomery Cemetery, Grant Parish, LA) showing the interment of a John W. ROPER (b 20 Dec 1813, d 15 Apr 1862 - Grant, LA). https://www.google.com/search?q=John+William+ROPER+born+December+17%2C+1813%2C+died+in+1862+M+Martha+Elvira+Holloway&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs https://www.google.com/search?q=John+W.+ROPER+%28b+20+Dec+1813%2C+d+15+Apr+1862+-+Grant%2C+LA%29.&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs https://www.google.com/search?q=Martha+Elvira+Holloway&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs Martha Elvira Holloway ROPER is shown to be interred within the Salado Cemetery, Bell County, Texas. The grave marker is modern. Photos of both this grave marker and of Martha Elivra Holloway ROPER appear at the Find a Grave site: http://www.findagrave.com/cgi-bin/fg.cgi?page=gr&GSln=Roper&GSbyrel=all&GSdy=1901&GSdyrel=before&GSst=46&GScntry=4&GSob=n&GSsr=41&GRid=52960809&df=all& * * * Secondary sources suggest that this John W. ROPER is the son of Daniel ROPER and Elizabeth ADAMS and that he was born in Edgefield, South Carolina. https://www.google.com/search?q=Daniel+ROPER+and+Elizabeth+ADAMS&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a&channel=rcs
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper, Yates Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1743.6.1.2/mb.ashx Message Board Post: Frank: In your post above, you state: "There is also this entry in a Kentucky deed book: Deed Book A 278 26 Feb. 1831 David Roper of Rhea co. to Solomon Hayes." The Kentucky Deed Book in which this transaction appears is Deed Book "A" for McMINN County, Tennessee. See my post: "David ROPER's McMinn, TN, Deed To Soloman HAYES (26 Feb 1831)" http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1698.3.1.2.1.1.1.3.1.2.5/mb.ashx The transaction isn't merely in "a Kentucky deed book," it is in the McMinn Deed Book! * I separately noted that Joseph ROPER (b 11 Oct 1782 - VA, d 06 Sep 1864 - Columbiana, Shelby, AL), of Shelby, AL, can now also be connected with McMinn: "Joseph ROPER's Deed of McMinn County, TN, Land To David CANTRELL (26 Aug 1841)" (13 Mar 2014 12:22PM GMT) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1854.2/mb.ashx * * * The James ROPER previously found in McMinn is likely to be the James ROPER (b abt 1786 - NC) enumerated with wife Margaret in neighboring Monroe County, TN, in 1850: "Error in Inferred Year of Birth of James ROPER (b abt 1786 - NC)" (14 Mar 2014 1:15AM GMT) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1787.5/mb.ashx "James ROPER (b abt 1786 - NC) m Peggy McNALLY in Blount, TN, on 23 Dec 1819" (14 Mar 2014 3:41AM GMT) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1787.5.1/mb.ashx McMinn and Blount Counties are going to turn out to be ground zero for both the ROPERs migrating to Greene County / Lawrence County, Missouri, as well as for the ancestors of Jeffrey Howard ROPER. As I have mentioned in prior communications, the asserted connection of Wiley Blount ROPER to William ROPER and Keziah YATES is completely specious. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>
This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Author: waroper Surnames: Roper, Lawson, Keen Classification: queries Message Board URL: http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1743.6.1.1.1/mb.ashx Message Board Post: The sale of Cumberland land from by John C. ROPER and wife Hannah to Philip Lawson ROPER was actually noted in your initial post in this particular thread: "John C. Roper & wife Hannah to Philip Lawson land on Surphur Creek:7/22/1834". P. 175 See: "ROPER Cumberland KY Deed and Will Records" (21 Dec 2012 10:57AM GMT) http://boards.rootsweb.com/surnames.roper/1743/mb.ashx * Frankly, I had forgotten many of the details mentioned in that post. I noticed this again after the sale of the land seemed to be underscored by the legacy to Polly ROPER and Francis KEEN. Important Note: The author of this message may not be subscribed to this list. If you would like to reply to them, please click on the Message Board URL link above and respond on the board. <br>