In a message dated 27/08/2007 01:00:18 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: As far as I know, there is no way to do what you want using either fp inlcudes or SSI's so that the menus stay put. Are you using a template of any kind or just redoing each page one by one? Hi Pat, Thanks for your fast response. You are confirming the conclusions I'm gradually coming round to. Most of my pages are all based on a few templates. Basically, where I previously had headers pages targetted on a particular top frame with the main page showing below it, I'm now adding the header to the top of the main page and deleting the frames. I have some fifty frames to delet and four-hundred main pages to modify. It will take me a while to modify the whole site. The site, being a photo tour with over two-thousand photos of graveyards and gravestones close-ups, is a large one and will grow further as I develop it to meet request from Family History Researchers with interests in Dumfries and Galloway. When I started this project eight years ago I checked it out with Rootsweb help-desk and was assured that size was not a problem. I hope that is still the case, otherwise I'm wasting my time making all these modifications. Thanks again for the information. Cheers, Sandy