Hi Sandy, Just a couple of personal opinions here: 1) You have a great web site -- really really nice! 2) The pages aren't that large so it's not very far to the top or bottom to get to the nav bar. 3) Personally, I think the pages without frames look much nicer than those with frames but that could be because I'm just an old curmudgeon who never liked frames in the first place :-). Regards, Jim Rickenbacker Jim Rickenbacker Kingwood, TX Home Pages: http://borisbrooks.com & http://ogsgs.org ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 26, 2007 3:57 PM Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Problem with new Ancestry.com banners > > Hi All, > About a week back I posted the details of a problem I was having with > multiple advertising banners over-writing the navigation bars on my > rootsweb hosted > website. > I have taken some time digesting the responses and investigating the main > thrust of the advice which was that I should abandon my out-of-date > coding, > (i.e. using frames and tables) and adopt more user-friendly coding > involving SSI. > > As a trial I have modified the first of some fifty frames of my site at: > _http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dfsgal/_ > (http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~dfsgal/) using FP includes to place my > navigation bar top and bottom of each > page. So far I have modified just forty pages but with another > four-hundred > to go and this is a very time consuming process. > > > Having looked at the sites suggested as examples I'm not convinced that my > Frames site was all that all that unfriendly. > (Actually in the eight years of my Photo Tours site's development the > only > 'complaints' by visitors have been that I haven't yet covered their > particular > area of interest.) > > None of the SSI examples I looked at allow me to do what I was able to do > with Frames. > Using Frames I was able to place a fixed navigation bar top of screen or > side of screen or both. > > The Visitor could make a selection from any of my index pages and a > scroll > the image in the main viewing area without the navigation bar scrolling > off > the screen. My modified site no longer does that. The user must now be > at > either the top or bottom of the scrolling page before they can change to > another > location in the site. > > In attempting to understand SSI have I missed something along the way? > > Regards, > > Sandy > PS > For those who now find their sites have attracted Rootsweb banners that > were > not there before, here is the official explantion from the help-desk. > > A response to your Help Desk message, "WEBMASTER: Photo Tour of D&G > Graveyards," > of Wed, 22 Aug 2007, at 9:26 a.m. follows: > ------------------------- > Homepages were a perk for contributors to RootsWeb at a qualifying level. > RootsWeb stopped accepting contributions in 2000 when we were purchased > by MyFamily.com. MFC (now TGN) has supported Homepages accounts without > charge or banners for the subssequent 7 years. The banners are now being > added to all supported accounts to reinforce and emphasize the TGN > community. > If you have been using frames, you will see banners in each frame, as has > been the case at Freepages. Using more up-to-date and user friendly > coding > for page layout (CSS) will result in a simple and discrete header at the > top of each page.