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I have had a complaint from someone about some family history material that another person asked me to post on the Woodruff County, AR web site, and I did. It's about the former person's family and using material that he originally had on another web site. He's also saying that the post is not giving proper credit in the article(s), and that there are copyright problems. He's pretty upset. Never run into this. Does anyone know if there are any policies or procedures about that sort of thing? Gloria coordinator, Woodruff County, Arkansas http://www.rootsweb.com/~arwoodru

If it is not copy writed it is public domain. You are not responsible for others submissions. Doug Gloria Lane wrote: > I have had a complaint from someone about some family history > material that another person asked me to post on the Woodruff County, > AR web site, and I did. It's about the former person's family and > using material that he originally had on another web site. He's also > saying that the post is not giving proper credit in the article(s), > and that there are copyright problems. He's pretty upset. > > Never run into this. Does anyone know if there are any policies or > procedures about that sort of thing? > > Gloria > coordinator, Woodruff County, Arkansas > http://www.rootsweb.com/~arwoodru > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Gloria, It's tricky but... I'd look first to see WHAT data you have. I'd ask the web site person who complained if he/she could be more specific about the nature of the copyright issue. Is he/she complaining about dates/names (not copyrightable)... or is the complaint about copied format and notes (IS copyrightable). If it was my web & not yours, my intent through 1 or several emails would be to gently try to get the "complaint person" to agree to allow me (you) to AGREE to ALLOW me to continue and keep "his/her" format / notes ON my web. You know, something like "If there is a copyright issue, I sincerely apologize. Please understand that with submissions, webmasters rely on the submitter to only send original work. However, as I think about the question you have raised, I wonder if there is a solution which would be acceptable to you? You see, I would hate to lose this well-researched* data. Would YOU consider allowing me to keep it on my web, and give you credit for your notes and formatting of the information?" Re: well-researched -- maybe it isn't but say something that gives some positive strokes to the person. If you can get the previous web URL, use the wayback machine (google for it) to search the old web pages and see if you can find the person's old website. On the other hand, you could write the submitter and tell the person truthfully "I've received a complaint about the info on this page. I wanted to discuss it with you." And ask about "where" the info came from etc. (which can sound pretty accusatory, so I'd be pretty gentle in what I say) "I feel I'm in a quandry because copyright issues are very serious. However, I'd like to be able to keep the info on my website. So, could you help me in deciding what to do by giving me some background of where you received the data? or, did you compile it yourself?" I'd probably do emails to both persons. Now, if BOTH say they BOTH did the original research and the format/notes are "THEIRS" --- well..... you'll have to do serious thinking about HOW to handle these situations. If your site is part of a GenWeb, maybe ask for advice from other CCs. You might want to establish a "rule" that if this situation arises again, you'll just delete it rather than go through the hoops of getting "proof" of ownership. Afterall, none of us are copyright attorneys, so how can we ever tell who is "right"? In the end, you *might* have to delete the material simply to avoid the appearance of using copyrighted info, because truthfully, YOU may not be able to determine which of the 2 "owns" the info. Ugh. Good luck (and let the List know how it works out) Judy On 8/18/07, Gloria Lane <[email protected]> wrote: > > I have had a complaint from someone about some family history > material that another person asked me to post on the Woodruff County, > AR web site, and I did. It's about the former person's family and > using material that he originally had on another web site. He's also > saying that the post is not giving proper credit in the article(s), > and that there are copyright problems. He's pretty upset. >

Yup, I think ultimately, I'll get with them and try to work it out (I removed the article in question, tentatively). I did ask the complainer for more specifics, but he was kind of verbose in his reply. I've got school starting,yada yada, and wanted to take the course of least effort, so to speak. BUT sounds good - to get the write (who writes for the local newspaper, so should know how to cite references) to give some kind of statement about references, etc. Thanks! Gloria At 11:29 AM 8/18/2007, you wrote: >Gloria, > >It's tricky but... I'd look first to see WHAT data you have. > >I'd ask the web site person who complained if he/she could be more specific >about the nature of the copyright issue. Is he/she complaining about >dates/names (not copyrightable)... or is the complaint about copied format >and notes (IS copyrightable). If it was my web & not yours, my intent >through 1 or several emails would be to gently try to get the "complaint >person" to agree to allow me (you) to AGREE to ALLOW me to continue and keep >"his/her" format / notes ON my web. You know, something like "If there is >a copyright issue, I sincerely apologize. Please understand that with >submissions, webmasters rely on the submitter to only send original work. >However, as I think about the question you have raised, I wonder if there is >a solution which would be acceptable to you? You see, I would hate to lose >this well-researched* data. Would YOU consider allowing me to keep it on my >web, and give you credit for your notes and formatting of the >information?" > >Re: well-researched -- maybe it isn't but say something that gives some >positive strokes to the person. > >If you can get the previous web URL, use the wayback machine (google for it) >to search the old web pages and see if you can find the person's old >website. > >On the other hand, you could write the submitter and tell the person >truthfully "I've received a complaint about the info on this page. I wanted >to discuss it with you." And ask about "where" the info came from etc. >(which can sound pretty accusatory, so I'd be pretty gentle in what I say) >"I feel I'm in a quandry because copyright issues are very serious. >However, I'd like to be able to keep the info on my website. So, could you >help me in deciding what to do by giving me some background of where you >received the data? or, did you compile it yourself?" > >I'd probably do emails to both persons. > >Now, if BOTH say they BOTH did the original research and the format/notes >are "THEIRS" --- well..... you'll have to do serious thinking about HOW to >handle these situations. If your site is part of a GenWeb, maybe ask for >advice from other CCs. You might want to establish a "rule" that if this >situation arises again, you'll just delete it rather than go through the >hoops of getting "proof" of ownership. Afterall, none of us are copyright >attorneys, so how can we ever tell who is "right"? > >In the end, you *might* have to delete the material simply to avoid the >appearance of using copyrighted info, because truthfully, YOU may not be >able to determine which of the 2 "owns" the info. Ugh. > >Good luck (and let the List know how it works out) > >Judy > >On 8/18/07, Gloria Lane <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > I have had a complaint from someone about some family history > > material that another person asked me to post on the Woodruff County, > > AR web site, and I did. It's about the former person's family and > > using material that he originally had on another web site. He's also > > saying that the post is not giving proper credit in the article(s), > > and that there are copyright problems. He's pretty upset. > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I sent this once, but don't think it made it as I haven't seen it posted! I have had a complaint from someone about some family history material that another person asked me to post on the Woodruff County, AR web site, and I did. It's about the former person's family and using material that he originally had on another web site. He's also saying that the post is not giving proper credit in the article(s), and that there are copyright problems. He's pretty upset. Never run into this. Does anyone know if there are any policies or procedures about that sort of thing? Gloria Lane coordinator, Woodruff County, Arkansas http://www.rootsweb.com/~arwoodru

At 02:01 PM 8/19/2007, you wrote: >sent this once, but don't think it made it as I haven't seen it >posted! > >I have had a complaint from someone about some family history >material that another person asked me to post on the Woodruff County, >AR web site, and I did. It's about the former person's family and >using material that he originally had on another web site. He's also >saying that the post is not giving proper credit in the article(s), >and that there are copyright problems. He's pretty upset. > >Never run into this. Does anyone know if there are any policies or >procedures about that sort of thing? This was posted and answered. If you did not receive copies of the emails, check the archives for the discussion. pat g