At 04:52 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: >All of the schemes under discussion are like locks on your door - they >only keep honest people honest. I'm afraid I have to disagree. It has nothing to do with "honesty". There are many reasons for saving a copy of a web page to review at your leisure. I do it all the time and the copy I save to my computer is NOT copyright infringement! Think of the many people whose only access to the internet is through a dial-up connection for which they pay by the minute. Saving a copy for review "off line" is almost a necessity. As indicated earlier in the discussion, disabling "right click" is ineffective for a savvy computer user, but to imply that a web surfer who knows how to circumvent that is somehow "dishonest" is inaccurate and unfair. Pat Asher
At 05:29 PM 12/18/2009, Pat Asher wrote: >There are many reasons for saving a copy of a web page to review at >your leisure. I do it all the time and the copy I save to my >computer is NOT copyright infringement! And one of the biggest is trying to help someone by saving the page and working with the code to let them know what is wrong and how it can be corrected. pat
At 05:29 PM 12/18/2009, Pat Asher wrote: >There are many reasons for saving a copy of a web page to review at >your leisure. I do it all the time and the copy I save to my >computer is NOT copyright infringement! And one of the biggest is trying to help someone by saving the page and working with the code to let them know what is wrong and how it can be corrected. pat
Pat Asher wrote: > At 04:52 PM 12/18/2009, you wrote: >> All of the schemes under discussion are like locks on your door - they >> only keep honest people honest. > > I'm afraid I have to disagree. It has nothing to do with "honesty". > > There are many reasons for saving a copy of a web page to review at > your leisure. I do it all the time and the copy I save to my computer > is NOT copyright infringement! > > Think of the many people whose only access to the internet is through > a dial-up connection for which they pay by the minute. Saving a copy > for review "off line" is almost a necessity. > > As indicated earlier in the discussion, disabling "right click" is > ineffective for a savvy computer user, but to imply that a web surfer > who knows how to circumvent that is somehow "dishonest" is inaccurate > and unfair. > > > Pat Asher > > My point was not to nit pick at what level or what act copyright infringement might be defined to begin. My use of the adjective honesty was meant to describe in a metaphorical way that if someone will decide to violate copyrights in a some material way, such as using protected works for a commercial gain or even falsely claiming to be the author of stolen work, then what is left is only remedy at law. Hence, if you lock your door and someone breaks in, your recourse is the police and courts. If someone is 'dishonest' and motivated so, no lock is breakproof. And if using someone else's material outside the rules isn't theft by a dishonest person, I guess I don't know what is wrong with it then. Jeff Owens