Hi Murray, First, I was not paying attention to the address when I used the reply function. I would not have posted this to the list as, regretfully, it is a religious war discussion. Nevertheless, I do owe you the courtesy of a reply. My message, below, says that Netscape does a far better job of complying with Internet standards than does AOL or Microsoft. There are two ways of not complying with standards (1) don't implement a function required by the standard (2) implement lots of proprietary functions in addition to the standard so that interoperability is limited to the lowest common denominator. While everyone in the industry, including me, would agree that case 2 is "more acceptable" than case 1, in reality case 2 does more short-term harm than good. Long term I would agree that case 2 often leads to evolution of the specifications. I believe that an important aspect of any discussion involving Microsoft has to begin with the acknowledgment that the company has been legally determined to be the largest proprietary software monopoly in the world. The truth is that Bill Gates vastly underestimated the growth potential of the Internet and essentially left his company with its pants down in the front lawn. When Marc Andreesen created the first graphical interface to the Internet, the Mosaic browser, he created a revolution that frankly created panic within Microsoft. Most everyone is aware that the fate of Netscape was the cause of the Department of Justice filing an antitrust lawsuit against Microsoft. I do continue to accurately assert that Netscape initially was the driving force behind the W3/IETF HTML standardization. I can also future agree with you that after Microsoft realized what Netscape had invented it decided to throw enormous financial and technical resources at every possible way to beat Netscape and drive it out of business. Again, this was the basis for the antitrust lawsuit. You are correct that after Microsoft exercised an enormous economic muscle it placed more representatives in the W3/IETF standardization efforts than anyone else could afford to match. Consequently, Microsoft did rapidly, and with malice and forethought, put both the people and resources in W3/IETF to drive the process and to implement what they had successfully paid to have adopted. Netscape is no longer in business, having been absorbed into AOL, so certainly you correctly assert that Netscape began to fall behind after the worlds largest declared monopoly decided to drive them out of the business that Netscape's own creativity had started. I do believe, however, that I may correctly assert that if compliance with standards is measured not only in terms of what mandatory functions are implemented but also in terms of how closely a product stays to the standard, as opposed to creating proprietary based interoperability problems, then my assertion that Netscape continues to be more compliant with W3 specifications stands. At this point it is clear that you know all of my arguments and that I know all of your arguments. May we agree to allow both "religions" to exist peacefully and leave this discussion for more productive ground elsewhere? Cheers, Jason Murray Pletsch wrote: > Hi Jason: > > > I agree with your observation that Netscape > > does a far better job of complying > > with Internet standards than does AOL or > > Microsoft. That has been true for years. > > Hold on Jason.....! Please do not mislead folks...especially the newbies > here. If you are knowledgeable about HTML standards then you SHOULD know > that Netscape has been behind the Standard for years and years....! > Netscape has continued to fall behind and was unable to operate properly > with HTML4....! Maybe they are catching up now with their new version but I > kind of doubt it.....! > > Please do not provide bogus information...! > > Regards.....Murray > > > > > Cheers, > > Jason > > > > Slredmond@aol.com wrote: > > > > > I'm having the same issue. I copied a logo image from the World GenWeb > image > > > collection and it shows up in Netscape but not AOL or MS Internet > Explorer. > > > > > > ============================== > > > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > > > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > > ============================== > > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > > your heritage! > > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > ============================== > Search more than 150 million free records at RootsWeb! > http://searches.rootsweb.com/