Hello Everyone, Since May 29 I received as listowner many messages beginning with > Nondeliverable mail > ... > ------Transcript of session follows ------- > wjkunnen@hetnet.nl > The intended recipient's mailbox is full. > ... followed by several lines with other notitions plus a quote of the original message to my list. The address 'wjkunnen@hetnet.nl' is not one of my list members (-L neither -D). Every message to my list NL-NOORD-HOLLAND-L gives such return message. Does anyone know how to stop this flood of messages? Don Arnoldus Listowner NL-NOORD-HOLLAND-L

Don, without the crucial "X-diagnostic" lines, it really is impossible to say. Have you searched for "wjkunnen" and found no matches? Was one of those bounce messages the one where Smartlist removed the address for you? This is the sort of issue to take to Listowners-L or Newbie-Listowner-L, where the experts reside. Looking at YOUR headers, I see that you use Netscape -- it is simple as pie to display full headers in NS. Either click View > Headers > All and forward, or just click Control U and copy/paste the full headers into a new message. Look through those bounces first, though, and see if you can't find one that says "X-diagnostic: Removed wjkunnen@hetnet.nl" If that has happened, you are in the "wait it out" stage. Valorie Don Arnoldus wrote: > > Hello Everyone, > > Since May 29 I received as listowner many messages beginning with > > Nondeliverable mail > > ... > > ------Transcript of session follows ------- > > wjkunnen@hetnet.nl > > The intended recipient's mailbox is full. > > ... > followed by several lines with other notitions plus a quote of the > original message to my list. > > The address 'wjkunnen@hetnet.nl' is not one of my list members (-L > neither -D). > > Every message to my list NL-NOORD-HOLLAND-L gives such return message. > > Does anyone know how to stop this flood of messages? <snip>

Re: Nondeliverable mail (Pat #106882) Valorie Zimmerman <valoriez@zimres.net> wrote: > Don, without the crucial "X-diagnostic" lines, it really is impossible > to say. Have you searched for "wjkunnen" and found no matches? Was one > of those bounce messages the one where Smartlist removed the address for > you? > > This is the sort of issue to take to Listowners-L or Newbie-Listowner-L, > where the experts reside. Looking at YOUR headers, I see that you use > Netscape -- it is simple as pie to display full headers in NS. Either > click View > Headers > All and forward, or just click Control U and > copy/paste the full headers into a new message. > > Look through those bounces first, though, and see if you can't find one > that says "X-diagnostic: Removed wjkunnen@hetnet.nl" > > If that has happened, you are in the "wait it out" stage. > > Valorie > > Don Arnoldus wrote: > > > > Hello Everyone, > > > > Since May 29 I received as listowner many messages beginning with > > > Nondeliverable mail > > > ... > > > ------Transcript of session follows ------- > > > wjkunnen@hetnet.nl > > > The intended recipient's mailbox is full. > > > ... > > followed by several lines with other notitions plus a quote of the > > original message to my list. > > > > The address 'wjkunnen@hetnet.nl' is not one of my list members (-L > > neither -D). > > > > Every message to my list NL-NOORD-HOLLAND-L gives such return message. > > > > Does anyone know how to stop this flood of messages? > <snip> Hi Valerie, Thank you for your reaction. Like I said, the problem exists since May 29th. Below some X-diagnostic lines for your interest (I kept all the return messages). I'm just a user, not an E-mail expert, so the header lines say nothing to me. Meamwhile I'm in contact with RootsWeb's helpdesk. They are researching the problem too. Don Arnoldus === 29-05-2001 13:57 X-Diagnostic: Mail to wjkunnen@hetnet.nl bounced 1 times X-Diagnostic: Mail coming from a daemon, ignored X-Diagnostic: Possible loopback problem 30-05-2001 00:42 X-Diagnostic: Mail to wjkunnen@hetnet.nl bounced 7 times X-Diagnostic: Mail coming from a daemon, ignored X-Diagnostic: Possible loopback problem 31-05-2001 01:58 X-Diagnostic: Mail to wjkunnen@hetnet.nl bounced 15 times X-Diagnostic: Bounces exceed threshold of 8 X-Diagnostic: Not confident enough to autoremove the offending address 72 w.j.ponne@hetnet.nl 17851 wjkunnen@hetnet.nl X-Diagnostic: Mail coming from a daemon, ignored X-Diagnostic: Possible loopback problem *) You must know ...@hetnet.nl is one of the leading internet providers here in The Netherlands with many, many members. 01-06-2001 02:36 X-Diagnostic: Mail to wjkunnen@hetnet.nl bounced 22 times ... 08-06-2001 10:39 X-Diagnostic: Mail to wjkunnen@hetnet.nl bounced 56 times ... *) After that message the bouncing timer got confused. Below the first X-Diagnostic line of the 146th return message (today): 16-07-2001 11:06 X-Diagnostic: Mail to wjkunnen@hetnet.nl bounced 18 times