Bettye: I've not had that trouble - I searched for my posts and I got them???? Hmmm why would some come up and not others - maybe there are still "bugs" they are trying to fix. Vonnie - CC for Chariton Co., MO (http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocharit/chariton.htm) vonnieann@earthlink.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "With God All Things Are Possible" -----Original Message----- From: B. Warner <bkwofc@i1.net> To: Vonnie <vonnieann@earthlink.net>; RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions >Vonnie, > >I'm not saying "US" volunteers shouldn't be able to search for the >information! I think you're totally missing my point! The problem is that >when I now search for something that I know has definitely posted, I'm not >finding it. For example, I've posted a lot of obits on Jones & Blackwell >(my own family line) to the St. Francois County GenConnect Obituaries Board >over the past year. Now when I go to St. Francois County Board and click >"search this board" and put in the surname "Blackwell" or the surname "Jones >", I get message "zero" found, yet when I manually scan down through the >list (which I shouldn't have to do), I can find these names. Why are they >not coming up on the search? I've tried the advance search too, but it >won't let you limit search to one geographic area so you're getting them >from everywhere. Jones is not a name that you want to put in a search >window without being able to limit it to a particular area. Also when I try >to search by my name as author, I'm not getting them either. I too am very >happy to contribute the information, however, I want to be able to easily >find it, and I want others to be able to easily find it after it's been >submitted. I also want to be able to accurately search to see if it's >already been submitted before I submit it. > >Bettye > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Vonnie" <vonnieann@earthlink.net> >To: "B. Warner" <bkwofc@i1.net>; <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:27 PM >Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions > > >> Bettye: >> >> But why couldn't "US" volunteers search for what we're looking for also? I >> think the point is, we all do this from the goodness of our hearts for and >> to help other people just like we've been helped. If there is something I >> find interesting - I transcribe it - I'll just search on the boards for it >> first! I would really hate to see we volunteers "throw in the towel" >> because of this change. >> >> Vonnie >> vonnieann@earthlink.net >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> "With God All Things Are Possible" >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: B. Warner <bkwofc@i1.net> >> To: Vonnie <vonnieann@earthlink.net>; RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com >> <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions >> >> >> >Vonnie, >> > >> >Yes, maybe it does make things easier for the people who are searching >for >> >their own surnames. However, don't forget that a large part of that >> >information you're finding is coming from we "volunteers" who are going >to >> >the libraries and history centers in our our area, gathering the >> >information, paying out our money for the photocopies, and spending our >> free >> >time to put it online for you to find. We "volunteers" have posted >> >thousands of obits, bios, etc. on folks we're not even related to just >> >because we believe that being able to help people discover and preserve >> >one's family legacy is a good cause. I agree that the new system (once >> >they get the search engines working right) may make it easier for folks >who >> >are just using the Boards to do their own research. However, it makes it >> >more difficult for the folks who are submitting the information to keep >> >straight what has and has not already been posted. If it's more >difficult >> >on the volunteers to do their work, I'm afraid we're going to have a lot >of >> >them throwing in the towel and, in turn, the whole process will suffer >> >because information which would have otherwise been posted will not be >> there >> >to find. >> > >> >Bettye >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Vonnie" <vonnieann@earthlink.net> >> >To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 9:34 PM >> >Subject: Fw: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions >> > >> > >> >> Ditto Norma! Give it some time, it will work out! Instead of going to >> >each >> >> individual board - a person can search for their surname and it get >> >> everything at once! Great Idea! >> >> >> >> Vonnie >> >> vonnieann@earthlink.net http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocharit/chariton.htm >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> "With God All Things Are Possible" >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Norma F. Jennings <njennings@lisco.net> >> >> To: RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 11:51 AM >> >> Subject: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions >> >> >> >> >> >> >I guess we have a whole different idea of volunteerism down here in >> >Louisa >> >> County. Data itself is >> >> >not copyrightable and when >> >> >I and my co-members type up databases, etc. for Rootsweb, it is with >the >> >> idea that OTHER people can >> >> >now have access to the >> >> >same information as we do. Now, when I donate to the Red Cross, the >> >Heart >> >> Association, and other >> >> >charities, I don't expect >> >> >to retain complete ownership of my contribution. I have the >> satisfaction >> >> of knowing that a few >> >> >pennies will help someone >> >> >else even though after working in a hospital, I know that most of that >> >> contribution will go for >> >> >researchers and secretaries >> >> >salaries and will never be seen by the patient. There are certain >> >> administrative costs and >> >> >maintenance fees that are >> >> >necessary for the patient to finally obtain any benefit. I can't boss >> >any >> >> of these projects but hope >> >> >I have helped in some >> >> >way. I absolutely do not understand the proprietary attitude and >> >> possessiveness of people working as >> >> >so called volunteers. >> >> >I am grateful for all the free web space I have been allocated in >order >> >to >> >> help others. >> >> > >> >> >No matter what it is, there are some people that will always fight >> >change. >> >> I tell my husband, when >> >> >he comes home and gripes >> >> >what the younger generation is doing downtown for improvements he >thinks >> >> are unnecessary, to not >> >> >voice his negativism too >> >> >loudly as that is a sure sign of being dubbed "old" when you resist >all >> >new >> >> ideas. Most opposition >> >> >is from ignorance and >> >> >often your worst fears are never realized. Think about it. Are you >a >> >> "volunteer with strings" or a >> >> >"contributor to >> >> >mankind"? >> >> > >> >> >Control is not an issue with me as I know what my real copyright >issues >> >are >> >> and I don't expect to >> >> >copyright every word I >> >> >write as much of it will eventually be deleted or forgotten anyway. >> >> > >> >> >Those of you padding this list with your complaints are part of the >> >> problem. Try a little patience >> >> >and the bugs in the new >> >> >system will be worked out. Anyone experienced with new database >systems >> >> know from the beginning that >> >> >there will be necessary >> >> >enhancements once the system is up and running to identify the problem >> >> areas. Everyone impatiently >> >> >hitting the link >> >> >repeatedly so they can join the "rabble rousing" is causing the rest >of >> >us >> >> to wait longer to access >> >> >the site to claim our >> >> >sites. And it is irritating the heck out of me when you keep asking >the >> >> obvious questions that have >> >> >already been answered.. >> >> > >> >> >I have been more than amply paid for anything that I have contributed >by >> >> the appreciation shown from >> >> >others and the tons of >> >> >info I have found in return. I have used Ancestry in the past to >locate >> >> relatives that otherwise >> >> >defied my efforts. For >> >> >this, I feel my money was well spent to access their site for a few >> >months. >> >> And they still have the >> >> >best resource on the >> >> >market with their "Source" book published a few years back. These >are >> >> good people but they do need >> >> >to charge for a few >> >> >things to stay on the air. >> >> >We all will eventually return to the dust anyway, we can't take it >with >> >us. >> >> >I would rather see it available for future generations than develop >> >> paranoia for fear someone else >> >> >will use my work. >> >> > >> >> >Norma Jennings >> >> > >> >> >______________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >> >> Source for Family History Online. Go to: >> >> http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >