Yup locking the web site would be pretty tacky. Could be some other error too. Sent from my iPhone On May 25, 2013, at 3:55 PM, "Dora Smith" <tiggernut24@yahoo.com> wrote: > WHAT?!!!!! > > I understood that if the owner DIED, their page stays there forever. Not > if the page dies when its owner's e-mail account does! > > I don't think so! Cut the crap, and leave the web sites alone. If you > can't contact the owner, too bad. Unless something specific is wrong with > the site. And if the owner's dead noone could have a new reason to complain > about him! > > Dora > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Pat Asher > Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:13 AM > To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site > > At 08:25 AM 5/21/2013, Patricia Geary wrote: >> Anyone else having problems accessing sites on the rootsweb servers? >> >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vtgenweb/Addison-Co-VT.htm >> >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vtgenweb/ >> >> Cannot signon to publish anything to the site either. >> >> Owner of the site is looking into it but in the meantime. . . . > > > > > If the account owner's email address has changed, for example, and > staff needs to contact them, locking access to a site is one way to > get the owner's attention <g> > > The owner needs to write to accounts@rootsweb.com > > > Pat A. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

WHAT?!!!!! I understood that if the owner DIED, their page stays there forever. Not if the page dies when its owner's e-mail account does! I don't think so! Cut the crap, and leave the web sites alone. If you can't contact the owner, too bad. Unless something specific is wrong with the site. And if the owner's dead noone could have a new reason to complain about him! Dora -----Original Message----- From: Pat Asher Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 10:13 AM To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site At 08:25 AM 5/21/2013, Patricia Geary wrote: >Anyone else having problems accessing sites on the rootsweb servers? > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vtgenweb/Addison-Co-VT.htm > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vtgenweb/ > >Cannot signon to publish anything to the site either. > >Owner of the site is looking into it but in the meantime. . . . If the account owner's email address has changed, for example, and staff needs to contact them, locking access to a site is one way to get the owner's attention <g> The owner needs to write to accounts@rootsweb.com Pat A. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I tried and got a message that I'm forbidden to access that server. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Patricia Geary Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 7:25 AM To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site Anyone else having problems accessing sites on the rootsweb servers? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vtgenweb/Addison-Co-VT.htm http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vtgenweb/ Cannot signon to publish anything to the site either. Owner of the site is looking into it but in the meantime. . . . pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 11:13 AM 5/21/2013, you wrote: >If the account owner's email address has changed, for example, and >staff needs to contact them, locking access to a site is one way to >get the owner's attention <g> Yes, it did and there is evidently a problem with the site lfagged by Google but since I am not the owner, I just have to wait until it is fixed. Sigh . . . . . Thanks all, pat

I can access my web site at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vapwcgs/. I have not tried to update info but I can access it.\ Denny Wolstenholme > Date: Tue, 21 May 2013 11:13:19 -0400 > To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com > From: pjroots@att.net > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site > > At 08:25 AM 5/21/2013, Patricia Geary wrote: > >Anyone else having problems accessing sites on the rootsweb servers? > > > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vtgenweb/Addison-Co-VT.htm > > > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vtgenweb/ > > > >Cannot signon to publish anything to the site either. > > > >Owner of the site is looking into it but in the meantime. . . . > > > > > If the account owner's email address has changed, for example, and > staff needs to contact them, locking access to a site is one way to > get the owner's attention <g> > > The owner needs to write to accounts@rootsweb.com > > > Pat A. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 08:25 AM 5/21/2013, Patricia Geary wrote: >Anyone else having problems accessing sites on the rootsweb servers? > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vtgenweb/Addison-Co-VT.htm > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vtgenweb/ > >Cannot signon to publish anything to the site either. > >Owner of the site is looking into it but in the meantime. . . . If the account owner's email address has changed, for example, and staff needs to contact them, locking access to a site is one way to get the owner's attention <g> The owner needs to write to accounts@rootsweb.com Pat A.

Anyone else having problems accessing sites on the rootsweb servers? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vtgenweb/Addison-Co-VT.htm http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vtgenweb/ Cannot signon to publish anything to the site either. Owner of the site is looking into it but in the meantime. . . . pat

I get 403 Forbidden -- My guess is The file permissions have been changed somehow. Filezilla has the option to change the permissions of the files on the server ________________________________ From: Patricia Geary <patgeary@comcast.net> To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, May 21, 2013 7:25 AM Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site Anyone else having problems accessing sites on the rootsweb servers? http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vtgenweb/Addison-Co-VT.htm http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vtgenweb/ Cannot signon to publish anything to the site either. Owner of the site is looking into it but in the meantime. . . . pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 02:25 PM 3/9/2013, Donna Cooper wrote: >I use Dreamweaver CS5 as my website designer. I need to create a >counter that counts all the different computer ID'S that look at the >pages. I have seen lots of them, but they are embed with links to >other sites or have images. I want just the number of users to show >up on the page. >If anyone could help with some java script or CSS code, it would appreciated. Donna, The previous "count" has to be stored somewhere so a new visitor can be added to it, then delivered to your page using the script supplied by the creator of the counter. A script of your own design (or CSS) can't do that -- unless you are running your own server. Pat A.

I should have added more information to my query that I sent earlier. I use Dreamweaver CS5 as my website designer. I need to create a counter that counts all the different computer ID'S that look at the pages. I have seen lots of them, but they are embed with links to other sites or have images. I want just the number of users to show up on the page. If anyone could help with some java script or CSS code, it would appreciated.  Donna >________________________________ > From: Donna Cooper <donnac58@yahoo.com> >To: Roots Help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2013 12:07 PM >Subject: Counter Code > > >List Readers, I am in need of the code for a counter that is not an image. I would like for it to count every user, but not every click. > > >And can someone tell me how to make a counter image like the ones shown on the Roots Web counter page validate in XHTML 1.0 Transitional?  > > >http://counter.rootsweb.com/  > > > >Thanks, Donna Cooper > >

List Readers, I am in need of the code for a counter that is not an image. I would like for it to count every user, but not every click. And can someone tell me how to make a counter image like the ones shown on the Roots Web counter page validate in XHTML 1.0 Transitional?  http://counter.rootsweb.com/  Thanks, Donna Cooper

At 08:57 AM 2/25/2013, Charles R. Weese wrote: >Since when is that pathway structure incorrect? I have been using the >comparable pathway for my web pages for the last 15 years. It is the >one I was given to use with mailmerge when I started using forms. By >the way, They were changed in the fall of 2009, see http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/RootsWeb-Help/2009-08/1250183184 If what you have is working for your form, don't mess with it <g> Freddie indicated he was getting complaints about his form, and and it may be it is the path rather than Captcha that is the underlying problem. >I hate the captcha stuff too. It is much harder to read than >it needs to be. Other sites that use it do not have text that is nearly >so distorted. I agree that the text can sometimes be very hard to read, but you can click the button to generate a different text. I just click away until I get one I can make out. Pat Asher

On 2/25/2013 3:00 AM, rootsweb-help-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > You are using Mailmerge to acquire user submitted data using a > form. The problems you may be experiencing with posts to your Fill > in the Blanks Form appear to be related to an incorrect path for > your form action tag. > > You have: > > "/cgi-bin/local/mailmerge.cgi/home0023/lineage/public_html/templates/pre_1800.tmp" > > > > It should be: > "/cgi-bin/local/mailmerge.cgi/~lineage/templates/pre_1800.tmp"> > > > Pat Asher > > Since when is that pathway structure incorrect? I have been using the comparable pathway for my web pages for the last 15 years. It is the one I was given to use with mailmerge when I started using forms. By the way, I hate the captcha stuff too. It is much harder to read than it needs to be. Other sites that use it do not have text that is nearly so distorted. -- ====================================================== Charles R. Weese, Jackson, OH I maintain the following USGenWeb county sites: Gallia County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohgallia/gallia.htm Jackson County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohjackso/jackson.htm Vinton County Ohio at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~ohvinton/vinton.htm I am also the listowner of the Jackson County mailing list: ohjackso@rootsweb.ancestry.com and the Vinton County mailing list: ohvinton@rootsweb.ancestry.com however, someone else has the Gallia County mailing list.

At 06:37 PM 2/24/2013, Freddie Spradlin wrote: >I use them on the 'Single Lineage Project" > >for example: > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lineage/pre_1800.htm > You are using Mailmerge to acquire user submitted data using a form. The problems you may be experiencing with posts to your Fill in the Blanks Form appear to be related to an incorrect path for your form action tag. You have: "/cgi-bin/local/mailmerge.cgi/home0023/lineage/public_html/templates/pre_1800.tmp" It should be: "/cgi-bin/local/mailmerge.cgi/~lineage/templates/pre_1800.tmp"> Pat Asher

At 05:54 PM 2/24/2013, Freddie Spradlin wrote: >The trouble that I'm seeing is with patrons trying to use FITB forms for >sending me email Sorry, but I don't recognize the acronym "FITB" What does it mean? What does it do? Can you give an example of a page at RW using "FITB" Pat Asher

At 02:39 PM 2/24/2013, Freddie Spradlin wrote: >I also get some very irate complaints, and can offer nothing to the patrons >except my regrets. > >This feature should be abanconed Freddie, I don't know about the original poster, but you have been around long enough to remember when Captcha was instituted and more importantly, WHY. Have you forgotten that s*p*a*m*m*e*r*s developed automated scripts to post to all unprotected guest books, not just at RootsWeb, but across the web? And how nasty and pornographic some of that s*p*a*m was? I don't like the necessity for Captcha any more than does anyone else. But I disliked having to "clean" my guest book daily even more. Pat Asher

Fill In The Blanks I use them on the 'Single Lineage Project" for example: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~lineage/pre_1800.htm Freddie S. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Asher Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 3:09 PM To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Captcha At 05:54 PM 2/24/2013, Freddie Spradlin wrote: >The trouble that I'm seeing is with patrons trying to use FITB forms for >sending me email Sorry, but I don't recognize the acronym "FITB" What does it mean? What does it do? Can you give an example of a page at RW using "FITB" Pat Asher ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Pat, I HAD forgotten that, but then I've never had "guest books" on my pages. The trouble that I'm seeing is with patrons trying to use FITB forms for sending me email Freddie S. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Asher At 02:39 PM 2/24/2013, Freddie Spradlin wrote: >I also get some very irate complaints, and can offer nothing to the patrons >except my regrets. > >This feature should be abanconed Freddie, I don't know about the original poster, but you have been around long enough to remember when Captcha was instituted and more importantly, WHY. Have you forgotten that s*p*a*m*m*e*r*s developed automated scripts to post to all unprotected guest books, not just at RootsWeb, but across the web? And how nasty and pornographic some of that s*p*a*m was? I don't like the necessity for Captcha any more than does anyone else. But I disliked having to "clean" my guest book daily even more. Pat Asher

I agree, I also get some very irate complaints, and can offer nothing to the patrons except my regrets. This feature should be abanconed Freddie Spradlin Torrance, CA -----Original Message----- From: Donna Cooper Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2013 8:44 AM To: Roots Help Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Captcha Good Morning List Readers, and it is a good morning, but I am going to throw a monkey wrench in it by complaining about the CAPTCHA feature that is installed on Roots Web sites. I get mail almost daily from people who find the Captcha feature a nuisance. I think it is necessary to have a safe way of posting - but the captcha feature certainly needs to be replaced with a better way of combating Spam. We could use some improvement. Users say that most of the time that they can't read the stupid thing, and they do use stronger language than stupid sometimes. So, in short, it discourages people from posting. I don't understand why Roots must continue with a service that offers so many problems? Users get discouraged and say that after dozens of times of trying that they give up on trying to post anything at all. They complain and grumble about it by e-mail and fill my box full of angry and discouraging words. I am hoping that by my complaining that someone up in rank can understand this important problem. It is one that concerns all of us who use post pages on Roots sites. I have tried using CAPTCHA myself on other Roots sites and believe that this problem is a national one! It seems to me that as many connections and resources that Roots has that they could find someone to design a sensible and more workable feature for our web sites. What says you? Donna Cooper ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Morning List Readers, and it is a good morning, but I am going to throw a monkey wrench in it by complaining about the CAPTCHA feature that is installed on Roots Web sites.  I get mail almost daily from people who find the Captcha feature a nuisance.  I think it is necessary to have a safe way of posting - but the captcha feature certainly needs to be replaced with a better way of combating Spam. We could use some improvement.   Users say that most of the time that they can't read the stupid thing, and they do use stronger language than stupid sometimes. So, in short, it discourages people from posting. I don't understand why Roots must continue with a service that offers so many problems? Users get discouraged and  say that after dozens of times of trying that they give up on trying to post anything at all. They complain and grumble about it by e-mail and fill my box full of angry and discouraging words.  I am hoping that by my complaining that someone up in rank can understand this important problem. It is one that concerns all of us who use post pages on Roots sites.  I have tried using CAPTCHA myself on other Roots sites and believe that this problem is a national one! It seems to me that as many connections and resources that Roots has that they could find someone to design a sensible and more workable feature for our web sites. What says you? Donna Cooper