This is a public forum and anyone can reply to anything posted. So get off your high horse. As an alleged person who used to work for Rootsweb, then I suppose you would have no trouble pointing to this very policy on their site. Otherwise I call your bluff. -----Original Message----- From: JYoung6180 <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 9:42 am Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site And just when was it your job to handle copyright issues with user submitted data for RootsWeb? Actually at one time it was a part of my job when I worked for RootsWeb and what I posted here was exactly how we handled copyright complaints. Only once did I actually have a database removed for infringement...the material was under copyright and the person raising the complaint was the copyright holder. I had other complaints but upon examination the claims didn't stand up to scrutiny either because the material couldn't be copyrighted or wasn't under copyright at the present time or the person was not the copyright holder. So I can "guarantee" that this is how copyright complaints were handled by RootsWeb and to the best of my knowledge there has been no change of policy. You can ask them if you like. Joan In a message dated 5/27/2013 11:46:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wjhonson@aol.com writes: I guarentee you they do not. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The last part of your reply Pat is not entirely legitimate. The law requires take down of infringing material If as you claim Rootsweb has *chosen* to not edit your site to remove *a* page, that is their particular policy. It is not any part of what the law requires. As a policy, they could certainly at any time choose to change that policy to one more friendly to site owners, and the world at large. -----Original Message----- From: Pat Asher <pjroots@att.net> To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 9:35 am Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site At 12:09 PM 5/27/2013, Wjhonson wrote: >Judy address the point. You keep trying to >redirect it to cover a gaping hole in your logic. Judy's logic is perfectly sound. Copyright works both ways. YOUR site as a whole is copyrighted by YOU, even though it may contain portions that are public domain or copyrighted by others. A service provider such as RootsWeb can not edit your site content (by removing certain pages) without permission from you. 1) If a claim of copyright infringement is made for certain content on your site, RootsWeb will attempt to contact you. 2) You may respond refuting the claim of infringement, or you may agree and remove the infringing content. 3) If RootsWeb is unable to reach you, or you fail to respond appropriately, then RootsWeb will, as required by law, disable access to the infringing material; and since they may not edit your copyrighted site, they will block access to your account/site. Pat A. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

And just when was it your job to handle copyright issues with user submitted data for RootsWeb? Actually at one time it was a part of my job when I worked for RootsWeb and what I posted here was exactly how we handled copyright complaints. Only once did I actually have a database removed for infringement...the material was under copyright and the person raising the complaint was the copyright holder. I had other complaints but upon examination the claims didn't stand up to scrutiny either because the material couldn't be copyrighted or wasn't under copyright at the present time or the person was not the copyright holder. So I can "guarantee" that this is how copyright complaints were handled by RootsWeb and to the best of my knowledge there has been no change of policy. You can ask them if you like. Joan In a message dated 5/27/2013 11:46:24 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wjhonson@aol.com writes: I guarentee you they do not.

Enough already. Go outside and play.

At 12:09 PM 5/27/2013, Wjhonson wrote: >Judy address the point. You keep trying to >redirect it to cover a gaping hole in your logic. Judy's logic is perfectly sound. Copyright works both ways. YOUR site as a whole is copyrighted by YOU, even though it may contain portions that are public domain or copyrighted by others. A service provider such as RootsWeb can not edit your site content (by removing certain pages) without permission from you. 1) If a claim of copyright infringement is made for certain content on your site, RootsWeb will attempt to contact you. 2) You may respond refuting the claim of infringement, or you may agree and remove the infringing content. 3) If RootsWeb is unable to reach you, or you fail to respond appropriately, then RootsWeb will, as required by law, disable access to the infringing material; and since they may not edit your copyrighted site, they will block access to your account/site. Pat A.

Judy address the point. You keep trying to redirect it to cover a gaping hole in your logic. -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 8:48 am Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site I wrote: If I copied YOUR website---in whole OR in part----, and I died, you or your heirs (if you died before discovery of my act) can bring copyright infringement to the attention of a web hosting site. Go READ copyright law. Judy On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> wrote: > Copyright is asserted on *a* page. > You copied my article on Farrah Fawcett > I assert copyright on that one page > Your site has three hundred pages. > They take it all down because of my > assertion of copyright on one page? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> > To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 8:39 am > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site > > > Did I say "one page".... I never said that. > > Judy > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> wrote: > > > Judy, Rootsweb staff is not equipped to > > *determine* is your assertion of copyright > > is true or false. > > > > No web site support staff does that. > > > > When a claim is asserted, they will take down. > > They all do that. > > It's then up to the site owner to complain > > > > So your claim that they will take down an > > entire site, because *one page* is claimed > > is alarming. > > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

backpedal backpedal backpedal Don't give me your homework -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 8:46 am Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site Just one other comment... This reminds me of 6th grade History Class when several kids decided to mock "having to learn history" -- just because they believed it did not / never would 'apply' to them. My question.... If you don't believe what you are reading here on a List as "advice" (which is all any of us can give) why not-- 1. Go read US Copyright 2. Email Rootsweb to ask about their policies 3. Email your other website Providers to ask about their policies. It's like saying, "Mom tell me what you put in macaroni salad" and when she tells the ingredients, the person yells "You Liar!"--- BUT the person is unwilling to go buy or borrow a cookbook and read the ingredients ' for yourself '. Happy USA Memorial Day. Judy On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:17 AM, JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > "Assertion of copyright" is not simply "a claim of" !!! > > Come on guys, go read copyright law before making outlandish comments! > > In my example for a site hosted by GoDaddy... first I showed the content > existed on my website before the offending site was even created... > secondly proven through the WayBack Machine that had archived my sites. > > People are seeming to make a mockery of a very legitimate problem, > especially with the Internet. No one should have the privilege of putting > content on a website without understanding at least the basics of US > copyright ! > > Judy > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

If RW (or any other web content provider) is unable to contact the page-owner, then yeah, they will block access to the entire site to avoid being "on the hook." It's called CMA (Cover My Assets). Copyright currently exists for 90 years after the death of the owner of the copyright. A thief is a thief whether he's dead or alive. Now, it's perfectly true that a dead thief can't be arrested and tried, but the people he stole from can certainly sue the socks off the thief's heirs for return of the stolen or the profit therefrom. Yes, I read the international copyright law of 1995 when it was first proposed, and when the US Congress debated it. Cheryl Wjhonson wrote: > Copyright is asserted on *a* page. > You copied my article on Farrah Fawcett > I assert copyright on that one page > Your site has three hundred pages. > They take it all down because of my > assertion of copyright on one page? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JFlorian<cageycat@gmail.com> > To: rootsweb-help<rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 8:39 am > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site > > > Did I say "one page".... I never said that. > > Judy > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Wjhonson<wjhonson@aol.com> wrote: > >> Judy, Rootsweb staff is not equipped to >> *determine* is your assertion of copyright >> is true or false. >> >> No web site support staff does that. >> >> When a claim is asserted, they will take down. >> They all do that. >> It's then up to the site owner to complain >> >> So your claim that they will take down an >> entire site, because *one page* is claimed >> is alarming. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: JFlorian<cageycat@gmail.com> >> To: rootsweb-help<rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 8:18 am >> Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site >> >> >> "Assertion of copyright" is not simply "a claim of" !!! >> >> Come on guys, go read copyright law before making outlandish comments! >> >> In my example for a site hosted by GoDaddy... first I showed the content >> existed on my website before the offending site was even created... >> secondly proven through the WayBack Machine that had archived my sites. >> >> People are seeming to make a mockery of a very legitimate problem, >> especially with the Internet. No one should have the privilege of putting >> content on a website without understanding at least the basics of US >> copyright ! >> >> Judy >> >> On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Wjhonson<wjhonson@aol.com> wrote: >> >>> If thats the case Judy than we are all doomed. >>> You see Judy, I can *assert* copyright to all >>> my competitors sites, and close them all down >>> funneling all traffic to my own. >>> >>> All I have to do is outlive them if your below >>> is actually the way Rootsweb works.

I wrote: If I copied YOUR website---in whole OR in part----, and I died, you or your heirs (if you died before discovery of my act) can bring copyright infringement to the attention of a web hosting site. Go READ copyright law. Judy On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:43 AM, Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> wrote: > Copyright is asserted on *a* page. > You copied my article on Farrah Fawcett > I assert copyright on that one page > Your site has three hundred pages. > They take it all down because of my > assertion of copyright on one page? > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> > To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 8:39 am > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site > > > Did I say "one page".... I never said that. > > Judy > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> wrote: > > > Judy, Rootsweb staff is not equipped to > > *determine* is your assertion of copyright > > is true or false. > > > > No web site support staff does that. > > > > When a claim is asserted, they will take down. > > They all do that. > > It's then up to the site owner to complain > > > > So your claim that they will take down an > > entire site, because *one page* is claimed > > is alarming. > > > > >

Just one other comment... This reminds me of 6th grade History Class when several kids decided to mock "having to learn history" -- just because they believed it did not / never would 'apply' to them. My question.... If you don't believe what you are reading here on a List as "advice" (which is all any of us can give) why not-- 1. Go read US Copyright 2. Email Rootsweb to ask about their policies 3. Email your other website Providers to ask about their policies. It's like saying, "Mom tell me what you put in macaroni salad" and when she tells the ingredients, the person yells "You Liar!"--- BUT the person is unwilling to go buy or borrow a cookbook and read the ingredients ' for yourself '. Happy USA Memorial Day. Judy On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:17 AM, JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> wrote: > "Assertion of copyright" is not simply "a claim of" !!! > > Come on guys, go read copyright law before making outlandish comments! > > In my example for a site hosted by GoDaddy... first I showed the content > existed on my website before the offending site was even created... > secondly proven through the WayBack Machine that had archived my sites. > > People are seeming to make a mockery of a very legitimate problem, > especially with the Internet. No one should have the privilege of putting > content on a website without understanding at least the basics of US > copyright ! > > Judy > > > >

Copyright is asserted on *a* page. You copied my article on Farrah Fawcett I assert copyright on that one page Your site has three hundred pages. They take it all down because of my assertion of copyright on one page? -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 8:39 am Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site Did I say "one page".... I never said that. Judy On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> wrote: > Judy, Rootsweb staff is not equipped to > *determine* is your assertion of copyright > is true or false. > > No web site support staff does that. > > When a claim is asserted, they will take down. > They all do that. > It's then up to the site owner to complain > > So your claim that they will take down an > entire site, because *one page* is claimed > is alarming. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> > To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 8:18 am > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site > > > "Assertion of copyright" is not simply "a claim of" !!! > > Come on guys, go read copyright law before making outlandish comments! > > In my example for a site hosted by GoDaddy... first I showed the content > existed on my website before the offending site was even created... > secondly proven through the WayBack Machine that had archived my sites. > > People are seeming to make a mockery of a very legitimate problem, > especially with the Internet. No one should have the privilege of putting > content on a website without understanding at least the basics of US > copyright ! > > Judy > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> wrote: > > > If thats the case Judy than we are all doomed. > > You see Judy, I can *assert* copyright to all > > my competitors sites, and close them all down > > funneling all traffic to my own. > > > > All I have to do is outlive them if your below > > is actually the way Rootsweb works. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I guarentee you they do not. -----Original Message----- From: JYoung6180 <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 8:36 am Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site Sure they do...first off staff will check to see if the person complaining is the copyright holder and second they can and will check to see if copyright actually exists...people claim copyright infringement all the time for material that can't be copyrighted...names, dates, places (facts for example). Just because someone CLAIMS to have copyright doesn't mean they do and objections from people other than the copyright holder carry no weight at all. Joan In a message dated 5/27/2013 11:29:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wjhonson@aol.com writes: Judy, Rootsweb staff is not equipped to *determine* is your assertion of copyright is true or false. No web site support staff does that. When a claim is asserted, they will take down. They all do that. It's then up to the site owner to complain So your claim that they will take down an entire site, because *one page* is claimed is alarming. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Did I say "one page".... I never said that. Judy On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:28 AM, Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> wrote: > Judy, Rootsweb staff is not equipped to > *determine* is your assertion of copyright > is true or false. > > No web site support staff does that. > > When a claim is asserted, they will take down. > They all do that. > It's then up to the site owner to complain > > So your claim that they will take down an > entire site, because *one page* is claimed > is alarming. > > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> > To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 8:18 am > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site > > > "Assertion of copyright" is not simply "a claim of" !!! > > Come on guys, go read copyright law before making outlandish comments! > > In my example for a site hosted by GoDaddy... first I showed the content > existed on my website before the offending site was even created... > secondly proven through the WayBack Machine that had archived my sites. > > People are seeming to make a mockery of a very legitimate problem, > especially with the Internet. No one should have the privilege of putting > content on a website without understanding at least the basics of US > copyright ! > > Judy > > On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> wrote: > > > If thats the case Judy than we are all doomed. > > You see Judy, I can *assert* copyright to all > > my competitors sites, and close them all down > > funneling all traffic to my own. > > > > All I have to do is outlive them if your below > > is actually the way Rootsweb works. > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body > of > the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.com/~pawashin/

Sure they do...first off staff will check to see if the person complaining is the copyright holder and second they can and will check to see if copyright actually exists...people claim copyright infringement all the time for material that can't be copyrighted...names, dates, places (facts for example). Just because someone CLAIMS to have copyright doesn't mean they do and objections from people other than the copyright holder carry no weight at all. Joan In a message dated 5/27/2013 11:29:48 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, wjhonson@aol.com writes: Judy, Rootsweb staff is not equipped to *determine* is your assertion of copyright is true or false. No web site support staff does that. When a claim is asserted, they will take down. They all do that. It's then up to the site owner to complain So your claim that they will take down an entire site, because *one page* is claimed is alarming.

Judy, Rootsweb staff is not equipped to *determine* is your assertion of copyright is true or false. No web site support staff does that. When a claim is asserted, they will take down. They all do that. It's then up to the site owner to complain So your claim that they will take down an entire site, because *one page* is claimed is alarming. -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 8:18 am Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site "Assertion of copyright" is not simply "a claim of" !!! Come on guys, go read copyright law before making outlandish comments! In my example for a site hosted by GoDaddy... first I showed the content existed on my website before the offending site was even created... secondly proven through the WayBack Machine that had archived my sites. People are seeming to make a mockery of a very legitimate problem, especially with the Internet. No one should have the privilege of putting content on a website without understanding at least the basics of US copyright ! Judy On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> wrote: > If thats the case Judy than we are all doomed. > You see Judy, I can *assert* copyright to all > my competitors sites, and close them all down > funneling all traffic to my own. > > All I have to do is outlive them if your below > is actually the way Rootsweb works. > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

"Assertion of copyright" is not simply "a claim of" !!! Come on guys, go read copyright law before making outlandish comments! In my example for a site hosted by GoDaddy... first I showed the content existed on my website before the offending site was even created... secondly proven through the WayBack Machine that had archived my sites. People are seeming to make a mockery of a very legitimate problem, especially with the Internet. No one should have the privilege of putting content on a website without understanding at least the basics of US copyright ! Judy On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 11:04 AM, Wjhonson <wjhonson@aol.com> wrote: > If thats the case Judy than we are all doomed. > You see Judy, I can *assert* copyright to all > my competitors sites, and close them all down > funneling all traffic to my own. > > All I have to do is outlive them if your below > is actually the way Rootsweb works. > > > >

If thats the case Judy than we are all doomed. You see Judy, I can *assert* copyright to all my competitors sites, and close them all down funneling all traffic to my own. All I have to do is outlive them if your below is actually the way Rootsweb works. -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 7:39 am Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Dora Smith <tiggernut24@yahoo.com> wrote: > Thanks for the info, Pat. > > I will try this one more time. > > If someone has been dead for awhile, there is no reason why copyright > infringement or any other new complaint should come up. I doubt that is > what is going on in this case. Such matters are few and far between, in > the first place. > > Dora > That is untrue! Copyright *Infringement* has absolutely nothing to do with whether "the author" or the "person who infringes" is living or not. e.g. 1. Copyright Law states an author's words are protected. e.g. 2. Copyright infringement may be claimed by the author---or the author's heirs-- at any time, regardless of whether the author died. It is also regardless of whether the person who infringed already died. Copyright cannot just be ignored !!! ** By author, I mean, the person who created words or creative piece that is protected by US Copyright Laws. If I copied YOUR website---in whole OR in part----, and I died, you or your heirs (if you died before discovery of my act) can bring copyright infringement to the attention of a web hosting site. As an example, several sites began to "copy" parts of my websites. It was easy to take care of--- I contacted GoDaddy, who hosted that person's "link farm" and GoDaddy shut down their site (they can't remove content but shutting off a site "gets the person's attention". If I had died before discovery, my heirs would have needed to "assert infringement" on my behalf. But again, whether XXX website has been taken down really isn't our business. Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At any rate, one would *hope* that the Rootsweb staff wouldn't be so incredibly stupid as to take down an entire *site* because one *page* was DCMA'ed -----Original Message----- From: Dora Smith <tiggernut24@yahoo.com> To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, May 27, 2013 7:19 am Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site Thanks for the info, Pat. I will try this one more time. If someone has been dead for awhile, there is no reason why copyright infringement or any other new complaint should come up. I doubt that is what is going on in this case. Such matters are few and far between, in the first place. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Pat Asher Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 1:27 PM To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Cannot Access Site At 01:00 PM 5/26/2013, Dora Smith wrote: >If she does have the rules right, then the >rules changed, and I need to know who to take this up with. The Digital Millenium Copyright Act became law in 1998, and requires a service provider who provides network storage of material at the direction of a user, to act "expeditiously to remove, or disable access to, the material that is claimed to be infringing or to be the subject of infringing activity." when they are adequately notified of the claimed infringement. http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/17/512 To ask a question of RootsWeb staff, go to http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com Click the Help button at the top right of the page. On the next page, click the "Ask a question" tab. Pat A. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dora- You seem to imply that copyright can't be at issue if a person is deceased...as Judy already pointed out death doesn't end a person's copyright to original content if copyright existed during their life. The heirs could retain copyright. Joan In a message dated 5/27/2013 10:22:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, tiggernut24@yahoo.com writes: If someone has been dead for awhile, there is no reason why copyright infringement or any other new complaint should come up.

On Mon, May 27, 2013 at 10:14 AM, Dora Smith <tiggernut24@yahoo.com> wrote: > Thanks for the info, Pat. > > I will try this one more time. > > If someone has been dead for awhile, there is no reason why copyright > infringement or any other new complaint should come up. I doubt that is > what is going on in this case. Such matters are few and far between, in > the first place. > > Dora > That is untrue! Copyright *Infringement* has absolutely nothing to do with whether "the author" or the "person who infringes" is living or not. e.g. 1. Copyright Law states an author's words are protected. e.g. 2. Copyright infringement may be claimed by the author---or the author's heirs-- at any time, regardless of whether the author died. It is also regardless of whether the person who infringed already died. Copyright cannot just be ignored !!! ** By author, I mean, the person who created words or creative piece that is protected by US Copyright Laws. If I copied YOUR website---in whole OR in part----, and I died, you or your heirs (if you died before discovery of my act) can bring copyright infringement to the attention of a web hosting site. As an example, several sites began to "copy" parts of my websites. It was easy to take care of--- I contacted GoDaddy, who hosted that person's "link farm" and GoDaddy shut down their site (they can't remove content but shutting off a site "gets the person's attention". If I had died before discovery, my heirs would have needed to "assert infringement" on my behalf. But again, whether XXX website has been taken down really isn't our business. Judy