What I meant was the previous URL you used had the format http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/minutes/.... So unless you have an account called "minutes" these accounts at this level I believe are used directly by Rootsweb, not given out to individuals. As someone else noted the account name should start with the tilde character "~" as you have it now "~mocchs" That's your account. So I think Pat already mentioned that that part was missing from your URL previously. -----Original Message----- From: PastTracker <pasttracker@windstream.net> To: Wjhonson <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 11:33 pm Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Problems uploading Hello Wjhonson, This is not freepages. Or maybe I just never heard it being referred to as freepages. www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mocchs/ that is the URL I've used for years now things are a mess. Please explain " root level global directory"? I don't know what you mean. k Wednesday, April 2, 2014, 2:44:21 PM, you wrote: > This URL looks suspicious to me. > You have a root level global directory called "minutes" ? > That would be really odd if true. > Typically don't people have "freepages" accounts? > -----Original Message----- > From: PastTracker <pasttracker@windstream.net> > To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 12:33 pm > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Problems uploading > I have been trying to upload some things for the local Historical society.. I am > using FP, and the code is identical to others that have uploaded prior to this. > I've checked and rechecked but still get the "not on this server". Here is one > of the URL's > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/minutes/mar-2014-minutes.htm > I have been working on this for days and just can't see the forest for the trees > anymore. > Any ideas would help. > Kay > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection > is active. > http://www.avast.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Best regards, PastTracker mailto:pasttracker@windstream.net --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 02:21 AM 4/3/2014, you wrote: >Thanks everyone for your help, I can't seem to the url >showing (~mocchs) some of the url now are showing >"minutes/minutes/" where that comes from I don't know. And darn >my grandchildren are too old to blame this mess on them. http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mocchs/minutes/mar-2014-minutes.htm http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mocchs/ is your home page http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mocchs/minutes-index.html minutes index page Which version of FrontPage are you using?? See if this helps with Publishing http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~gearyfamily/frontpage/publishing-frontpage-2003.html Pat

Hello Pat, Yes, it is Front Page, I also have Expression Web 4, just can't figure it out, maybe I'm just to old to learn. I have to have things explained in baby steps. Kay Wednesday, April 2, 2014, 2:39:03 PM, you wrote: > At 03:35 PM 4/2/2014, you wrote: >>What is FP? Do you mean FTP ? > Probably means FrontPage. > pat > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Best regards, PastTracker mailto:pasttracker@windstream.net --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Hello Wjhonson, This is not freepages. Or maybe I just never heard it being referred to as freepages. www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mocchs/ that is the URL I've used for years now things are a mess. Please explain " root level global directory"? I don't know what you mean. k Wednesday, April 2, 2014, 2:44:21 PM, you wrote: > This URL looks suspicious to me. > You have a root level global directory called "minutes" ? > That would be really odd if true. > Typically don't people have "freepages" accounts? > -----Original Message----- > From: PastTracker <pasttracker@windstream.net> > To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 12:33 pm > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Problems uploading > I have been trying to upload some things for the local Historical society.. I am > using FP, and the code is identical to others that have uploaded prior to this. > I've checked and rechecked but still get the "not on this server". Here is one > of the URL's > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/minutes/mar-2014-minutes.htm > I have been working on this for days and just can't see the forest for the trees > anymore. > Any ideas would help. > Kay > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection > is active. > http://www.avast.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of > the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Best regards, PastTracker mailto:pasttracker@windstream.net --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

Thanks everyone for your help, I can't seem to the url showing (~mocchs) some of the url now are showing "minutes/minutes/" where that comes from I don't know. And darn my grandchildren are too old to blame this mess on them. Kay Wednesday, April 2, 2014, 2:45:04 PM, you wrote: > What is your RootsWeb account - it can't be minutes. All RootsWeb > accounts, including WWW ones have a ~ before an account name, such as a > society. I suspect you have a society with minutes. > Susan > On 4/2/2014 3:33 PM, PastTracker wrote: >> I have been trying to upload some things for the local Historical society. I am using FP, and the code is identical to others that have uploaded prior to this. I've checked and rechecked but still get the "not on this server". Here is one of the URL's >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/minutes/mar-2014-minutes.htm >> I have been working on this for days and just can't see the forest for the trees anymore. >> Any ideas would help. >> Kay > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- Best regards, PastTracker mailto:pasttracker@windstream.net --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

looks like part of the url is missing. It doesn't have the project directory listed. such as "~gensoc/" Mel On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 2:33 PM, PastTracker <pasttracker@windstream.net>wrote: > > > I have been trying to upload some things for the local Historical society. > I am using FP, and the code is identical to others that have uploaded > prior to this. I've checked and rechecked but still get the "not on this > server". Here is one of the URL's > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/minutes/mar-2014-minutes.htm > > I have been working on this for days and just can't see the forest for the > trees anymore. > > Any ideas would help. > > Kay > > --- > This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus > protection is active. > http://www.avast.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

At 03:33 PM 4/2/2014, you wrote: >I have been trying to upload some things for the local Historical >society. I am using FP, and the code is identical to others that >have uploaded prior to this. I've checked and rechecked but still >get the "not on this server". Here is one of the URL's > >http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/minutes/mar-2014-minutes.htm > >I have been working on this for days and just can't see the forest >for the trees anymore. > >Any ideas would help. Looks like part of your url is missing. WHich server are you trying to publish to? Freepages? This would be the url for the DAR site I maintain http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~vamscdar/ pat

What is your RootsWeb account - it can't be minutes. All RootsWeb accounts, including WWW ones have a ~ before an account name, such as a society. I suspect you have a society with minutes. Susan On 4/2/2014 3:33 PM, PastTracker wrote: > > > I have been trying to upload some things for the local Historical society. I am using FP, and the code is identical to others that have uploaded prior to this. I've checked and rechecked but still get the "not on this server". Here is one of the URL's > > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/minutes/mar-2014-minutes.htm > > I have been working on this for days and just can't see the forest for the trees anymore. > > Any ideas would help. > > Kay

This URL looks suspicious to me. You have a root level global directory called "minutes" ? That would be really odd if true. Typically don't people have "freepages" accounts? -----Original Message----- From: PastTracker <pasttracker@windstream.net> To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 12:33 pm Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Problems uploading I have been trying to upload some things for the local Historical society. I am using FP, and the code is identical to others that have uploaded prior to this. I've checked and rechecked but still get the "not on this server". Here is one of the URL's http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/minutes/mar-2014-minutes.htm I have been working on this for days and just can't see the forest for the trees anymore. Any ideas would help. Kay --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At 03:35 PM 4/2/2014, you wrote: >What is FP? Do you mean FTP ? Probably means FrontPage. pat

What is FP? Do you mean FTP ? -----Original Message----- From: PastTracker <pasttracker@windstream.net> To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Apr 2, 2014 12:33 pm Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Problems uploading I have been trying to upload some things for the local Historical society. I am using FP, and the code is identical to others that have uploaded prior to this. I've checked and rechecked but still get the "not on this server". Here is one of the URL's http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/minutes/mar-2014-minutes.htm I have been working on this for days and just can't see the forest for the trees anymore. Any ideas would help. Kay --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have been trying to upload some things for the local Historical society. I am using FP, and the code is identical to others that have uploaded prior to this. I've checked and rechecked but still get the "not on this server". Here is one of the URL's http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/minutes/mar-2014-minutes.htm I have been working on this for days and just can't see the forest for the trees anymore. Any ideas would help. Kay --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

"Has anyone experienced this" has three possible answers: 1. Yes. Which says nothing about why, therefore is unhelpful. 2. No. Which is equally unhelpful. 3. Or, "Here's what might be wrong/ or is likely wrong." "HELP" Lists about web pages typically exist for Number 3. If we'd all answered, "No I've seen that happen", what good is the list for "help" when web pages typically fail because of or resulting from a coding issue? Personally, I hope the guy can figure out the issue so I can visit his pages. Looked interesting. Judy On Wed, Apr 2, 2014 at 9:44 AM, singhals <singhals@erols.com> wrote: But, the OP didn't ask how to solve a problem; she inquired if others were experiencing what she was. Nor, according to follow ups from the OP, was it her code to fix. Wondering, even asking, if it's raining in some other part of town doesn't mean I can control the rain. Cheryl

But, the OP didn't ask how to solve a problem; she inquired if others were experiencing what she was. Nor, according to follow ups from the OP, was it her code to fix. Wondering, even asking, if it's raining in some other part of town doesn't mean I can control the rain. Cheryl Dora Smith wrote: > Too bad - if only most people who asked how to solve a problem actually > wanted to know the answer or solve the problem. > > Dora > > -----Original Message----- > From: Char Larson > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:53 AM > To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Pages blank or dead > > I'm the person that started the question about blank pages. > > > > Robert Forrest contacted me about the blank page on his web site Early > Western Murray County History that was linked to my county page. I could > not answer his question so I put it out to Rootweb Help. Your suggestions > and comments were forwarded to Mr. Forrest. > > > > I would like to thank the people that responded but some of the answers got > off the subject and started an argument. > > > > As of yesterday afternoon Mr. Forrest has taken down his page with no > communication to me. I do not know if he is going to fix the problem or > just drop the site. He may have thought, as I, that some of the answers > were putting him down for not being webpage knowledgeable when all he wanted > to do was put his grandfather's book on line for people. His site had been > up since 2001. > > > > I became a county coordinator in 1999 for the purpose of helping people find > free family history in Murray County not to be a webmaster. I'm still using > what some call outdated programs, such as FTP95, Webford, and Front Page. > My page is not pretty but it is simple to use and I receive 2 to 3 emails a > week asking for information. I don't have the hours, money, or the desire > to update. Right now I can live in the 90's. Someday I will have to make a > change, if things stop working, but in the mean time I would rather spend my > time and energy to help people connect with their ancestors. > > > > Char > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Char Larson"<charlarson@frontiernet.net> > To:<rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 11:15 AM > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Pages blank or dead > > >> Has anyone had a problem with dead pages on different computers? The page >> in question is >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/home.htm >> >> This page comes up on my PC but when I use an IPad the page is blank. >> Others have tried this and the same thing happens to them. >> >> Early Western Murray County History by Robert Forrest >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/title.htm >> >> There are four subtitles on the bottom >> Next Page >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/cont1.htm >> Table of Contents >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/cont1.htm >> Index Name >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/indexa-g.htm >> Home http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/home.htm >> >> The only one that does not work on some computers is the HOME. >> >> Char Larson >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnmurray/

Hi Char, Go to http://www.usgwarchives.org/ to ask the right person(s). If I'm not mistaken, the usgwarchives moved a long time ago-- but my memory may be wrong. They haven't been on rootsweb.ancestry.com in a long time-- I remember having to change all my links. Judy On Tue, Apr 1, 2014 at 4:36 PM, Char Larson <charlarson@frontiernet.net>wrote: > Now someone has to explain this!! > > Early Western Murray County is back on line. I got an email from Mr. > Forrest and he did not take it off. The link had been change only an hour > after I asked for help on Rootsweb. It seems strange that change was made > so > quick. > > In looking for it on the web I found it under > http://www.usgwarchives.net/mn/murray/history/home.htm > > The other link that he and I talked about was Murray County obits. The > link > I used yesterday did not work today. That had also been changed to > http://www.usgwarchives.net/obits/mn/counties/murray.htm > > rootsweb.ancestry had been dropped off the URL. > > How many more links should I be looking for that have been changed? > > Char Larson > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnmurray/ > > > --- Original Message ----- > From: "Char Larson" <charlarson@frontiernet.net> > To: <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:53 AM > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Pages blank or dead > > > > I'm the person that started the question about blank pages. > > > > > > > > Robert Forrest contacted me about the blank page on his web site Early > > Western Murray County History that was linked to my county page. I could > > not answer his question so I put it out to Rootweb Help. Your suggestions > > and comments were forwarded to Mr. Forrest. > > > > > > > > I would like to thank the people that responded but some of the answers > > got > > off the subject and started an argument. > > > > > > > > As of yesterday afternoon Mr. Forrest has taken down his page with no > > communication to me. I do not know if he is going to fix the problem or > > just drop the site. He may have thought, as I, that some of the answers > > were putting him down for not being webpage knowledgeable when all he > > wanted > > to do was put his grandfather's book on line for people. His site had > > been > > up since 2001. > > > > > > > > I became a county coordinator in 1999 for the purpose of helping people > > find > > free family history in Murray County not to be a webmaster. I'm still > > using > > what some call outdated programs, such as FTP95, Webford, and Front Page. > > My page is not pretty but it is simple to use and I receive 2 to 3 emails > > a > > week asking for information. I don't have the hours, money, or the > desire > > to update. Right now I can live in the 90's. Someday I will have to make > a > > change, if things stop working, but in the mean time I would rather spend > > my > > time and energy to help people connect with their ancestors. > > > > > > > > Char > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Char Larson" <charlarson@frontiernet.net> > > To: <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 11:15 AM > > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Pages blank or dead > > > > > >> Has anyone had a problem with dead pages on different computers? The > >> page > >> in question is > >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/home.htm > >> > >> This page comes up on my PC but when I use an IPad the page is blank. > >> Others have tried this and the same thing happens to them. > >> > >> Early Western Murray County History by Robert Forrest > >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/title.htm > >> > >> There are four subtitles on the bottom > >> Next Page > >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/cont1.htm > >> Table of Contents > >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/cont1.htm > >> Index Name > >> > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/indexa-g.htm > >> Home > >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/home.htm > >> > >> The only one that does not work on some computers is the HOME. > >> > >> Char Larson > >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnmurray/ > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > >> signature database 9617 (20140331) __________ > >> > >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >> > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > >> signature database 9617 (20140331) __________ > >> > >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > >> > >> http://www.eset.com > >> > >> > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > > signature database 9622 (20140401) __________ > > > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > > > http://www.eset.com > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- -- WASHINGTON COUNTY PA WEBSITES::: http://freepages.misc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~florian/ http://freepages.school-alumni.rootsweb.com/~florian/the-rockdoctor/ Coordinator of the Washington County PAGenWeb: http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pawashin/

Too bad - if only most people who asked how to solve a problem actually wanted to know the answer or solve the problem. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Char Larson Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:53 AM To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Pages blank or dead I'm the person that started the question about blank pages. Robert Forrest contacted me about the blank page on his web site Early Western Murray County History that was linked to my county page. I could not answer his question so I put it out to Rootweb Help. Your suggestions and comments were forwarded to Mr. Forrest. I would like to thank the people that responded but some of the answers got off the subject and started an argument. As of yesterday afternoon Mr. Forrest has taken down his page with no communication to me. I do not know if he is going to fix the problem or just drop the site. He may have thought, as I, that some of the answers were putting him down for not being webpage knowledgeable when all he wanted to do was put his grandfather's book on line for people. His site had been up since 2001. I became a county coordinator in 1999 for the purpose of helping people find free family history in Murray County not to be a webmaster. I'm still using what some call outdated programs, such as FTP95, Webford, and Front Page. My page is not pretty but it is simple to use and I receive 2 to 3 emails a week asking for information. I don't have the hours, money, or the desire to update. Right now I can live in the 90's. Someday I will have to make a change, if things stop working, but in the mean time I would rather spend my time and energy to help people connect with their ancestors. Char ----- Original Message ----- From: "Char Larson" <charlarson@frontiernet.net> To: <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 11:15 AM Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Pages blank or dead > Has anyone had a problem with dead pages on different computers? The page > in question is > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/home.htm > > This page comes up on my PC but when I use an IPad the page is blank. > Others have tried this and the same thing happens to them. > > Early Western Murray County History by Robert Forrest > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/title.htm > > There are four subtitles on the bottom > Next Page > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/cont1.htm > Table of Contents > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/cont1.htm > Index Name > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/indexa-g.htm > Home http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/home.htm > > The only one that does not work on some computers is the HOME. > > Char Larson > http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnmurray/ > > > > > > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 9617 (20140331) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 9617 (20140331) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com

On 04/01/2014 03:36 PM, Char Larson wrote: > In looking for it on the web I found it under > http://www.usgwarchives.net/mn/murray/history/home.htm I get a blank page on this one. And when I look at the code there's a body tag and close body tag immediately following, with nothing enclosed. > The other link that he and I talked about was Murray County obits. The link > I used yesterday did not work today. That had also been changed to > http://www.usgwarchives.net/obits/mn/counties/murray.htm This one works for me. Mona

Now someone has to explain this!! Early Western Murray County is back on line. I got an email from Mr. Forrest and he did not take it off. The link had been change only an hour after I asked for help on Rootsweb. It seems strange that change was made so quick. In looking for it on the web I found it under http://www.usgwarchives.net/mn/murray/history/home.htm The other link that he and I talked about was Murray County obits. The link I used yesterday did not work today. That had also been changed to http://www.usgwarchives.net/obits/mn/counties/murray.htm rootsweb.ancestry had been dropped off the URL. How many more links should I be looking for that have been changed? Char Larson http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnmurray/ --- Original Message ----- From: "Char Larson" <charlarson@frontiernet.net> To: <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, April 01, 2014 9:53 AM Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Pages blank or dead > I'm the person that started the question about blank pages. > > > > Robert Forrest contacted me about the blank page on his web site Early > Western Murray County History that was linked to my county page. I could > not answer his question so I put it out to Rootweb Help. Your suggestions > and comments were forwarded to Mr. Forrest. > > > > I would like to thank the people that responded but some of the answers > got > off the subject and started an argument. > > > > As of yesterday afternoon Mr. Forrest has taken down his page with no > communication to me. I do not know if he is going to fix the problem or > just drop the site. He may have thought, as I, that some of the answers > were putting him down for not being webpage knowledgeable when all he > wanted > to do was put his grandfather's book on line for people. His site had > been > up since 2001. > > > > I became a county coordinator in 1999 for the purpose of helping people > find > free family history in Murray County not to be a webmaster. I'm still > using > what some call outdated programs, such as FTP95, Webford, and Front Page. > My page is not pretty but it is simple to use and I receive 2 to 3 emails > a > week asking for information. I don't have the hours, money, or the desire > to update. Right now I can live in the 90's. Someday I will have to make a > change, if things stop working, but in the mean time I would rather spend > my > time and energy to help people connect with their ancestors. > > > > Char > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Char Larson" <charlarson@frontiernet.net> > To: <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 11:15 AM > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Pages blank or dead > > >> Has anyone had a problem with dead pages on different computers? The >> page >> in question is >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/home.htm >> >> This page comes up on my PC but when I use an IPad the page is blank. >> Others have tried this and the same thing happens to them. >> >> Early Western Murray County History by Robert Forrest >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/title.htm >> >> There are four subtitles on the bottom >> Next Page >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/cont1.htm >> Table of Contents >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/cont1.htm >> Index Name >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/indexa-g.htm >> Home >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~usgenweb/mn/murray/history/home.htm >> >> The only one that does not work on some computers is the HOME. >> >> Char Larson >> http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~mnmurray/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 9617 (20140331) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus >> signature database 9617 (20140331) __________ >> >> The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. >> >> http://www.eset.com >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > __________ Information from ESET Smart Security, version of virus > signature database 9622 (20140401) __________ > > The message was checked by ESET Smart Security. > > http://www.eset.com > > >

Here is some plain html which css cannot shorten <html><head>My Title</head><body>My Content</body></html> -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian <cageycat@gmail.com> To: LIST: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 31, 2014 9:35 pm Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Pages blank or dead Dora, Word doesn't automatically add CSS code. MS Word adds MS Word proprietary code, which bloats code completely. However, CSS shortens HTML coding, even the plainest HTML. Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you Dora! I completely agree! Plain HTML is easier to read and correct to my way of thinking. -----Original Message----- From: Dora Smith <tiggernut24@yahoo.com> To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 31, 2014 9:27 pm Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Pages blank or dead Not one of my pages have the doctype tag, and, miracle of miracles, the pages display! And the search engines find my pages just fine. It's amazing. If I'm researching one of my more obscure ancestors, guess whose web pages are generally the top seven that come up in Google. Doctype isn't relevant to much. The search engines don't use it to find your web pages. Now, mind you, I wouldn't be caught dead using no CSS. Plain old 1990's style HTML is what I learned, in the 1990's, and it does for me just fine, thank you very much - and that is what both my genealogical software and my web editor use. I won't use Word or any of the other web page generators because their bleepin gd CSS and whatever else take up 100 MB a page! I don't think so! There's no reason for it - and don't anyone start in with none of those imaginary reasons that outer space aliens are constantly making up. Dora -----Original Message----- From: Michael Sent: Monday, March 31, 2014 3:52 PM To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Pages blank or dead Very true, Jim. If one wanted to re-create a page from the 1990's, and only include block and in-line elements, one could omit the doctype and probably get away with it. Of course, why would anyone want to :-) If one doesn't specify a doctype, forget using html. The page won't validate either. You can't link a style sheet to the page, and the browser rendering the page will display it in Quirks Mode. I enjoyed the 1990s, but... Michael On 3/31/2014 3:19 PM, Jim Rickenbacker(3) wrote: True, you don't need a doctype and validators are silly so long as you don't care how your page displays on any browser besides yours. If you do care a doctype is needed and a validator is very helpful. Jim Rickenbacker On 3/31/2014 1:06 PM, Wjhonson wrote: It's incorrect that pages *need* a doctype. It's optional. All modern browsers will display the content without the doctyp e line. Although the silly validator will complain if you don't have a doctype :) I hate those things.... they are so so picky. -----Original Message----- From: JFlorian [1]<cageycat@gmail.com> To: LIST: [2]rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com [3]<rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Mon, Mar 31, 2014 11:02 am Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Pages blank or dead A comment is (without leading dots) <...!--This is a comment. Comments are not displayed in the browser--> it must begin with <! (exclamation point) end with these characters: "--->" without quotes. Also, pages do need a doctype but the one you used is invalid. You have a closing table tag but not open? See [4]http://validator.w3.org/#validate_by_input Judy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [5]ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@ rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [6]ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@ rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [7]ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@ rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:cageycat@gmail.com 2. mailto:rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com 4. http://validator.w3.org/#validate_by_input 5. mailto:ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com 6. mailto:ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com 7. mailto:ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --- This email is free from viruses and malware because avast! Antivirus protection is active. http://www.avast.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message