At 04:47 PM 1/7/2015, you wrote: >Is it not true that birth/death records and any info given in those records >is open to the public? I have cemetery surveys on my websites and I have a >column for each listing in which I list available info pertinent to >genealogy research. I now have someone objecting to any info which >is not on the >tombstone. The info has been on the website for years and apparently she is >just now discovering it. Since (I think) this is public info and others >might be benefiting from that genealogy info, I do not feel I am obligated to >remove it. The information on the tombstone is obviously public. There are very few instances where it would not be. A column/section of your website listing info "pertinent to genealogy research" may or may not contain public domain information to which you have the right to publish. We would need a specific example to venture an opinion. Pat Asher
At 05:01 PM 1/7/2015, you wrote: >No one can sue over disclosures you make on behalf of a dead person. Wanna bet? Your dismissal of the concerns of the poster are premature. Pat Asher
I don't know that rights die with a person. But the family still has "rights" to their privacy, regardless. However, is the person objecting to: 1. extra information that may -- or may not-- violate "rights" ---or--- 2. is she objecting to mixing tombstone data with other info?? If you clearly separate "tombstone info" from "other info", that negates #2. I have an "other info" column on Cemetery data. It shouldn't be an issue. If she's objecting under #1, what is her precise objection? My opinion: People can be demanding--- both ways: you should // shouldn't have this info! After hearing out their complaint, I most often offer an explanation, then ignore the hoopla. We will never please everyone. IF someone has a legit reason, I try to work it out with them, especially through offering them the space on my website to clarify or add info . Judy
When a person dies, they lose any privacy rights they may have had. Full Stop. No one can sue over disclosures you make on behalf of a dead person. -----Original Message----- From: Barbraseb via <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wed, Jan 7, 2015 1:47 pm Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] Public files?? Is it not true that birth/death records and any info given in those records is open to the public? I have cemetery surveys on my websites and I have a column for each listing in which I list available info pertinent to genealogy research. I now have someone objecting to any info which is not on the tombstone. The info has been on the website for years and apparently she is just now discovering it. Since (I think) this is public info and others might be benefiting from that genealogy info, I do not feel I am obligated to remove it. Thanks for any advice. </HTML> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Is it not true that birth/death records and any info given in those records is open to the public? I have cemetery surveys on my websites and I have a column for each listing in which I list available info pertinent to genealogy research. I now have someone objecting to any info which is not on the tombstone. The info has been on the website for years and apparently she is just now discovering it. Since (I think) this is public info and others might be benefiting from that genealogy info, I do not feel I am obligated to remove it. Thanks for any advice. </HTML>
After looking at all of the comments here, Rootsweb is fine for what Rootsweb does. I am grateful to it for hosting my DAR Chapter's website. For anyone wanting to host a site with PHP, the best similar deal would be to use a free account through WordPress. WordPress is PHP. Sue from NJ On 1/5/2015 3:00 AM, rootsweb-help-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 (Camp Middlebrook) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2015 11:36:53 -0500 > From: Camp Middlebrook <campmiddlebrook@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > To: rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <54A96C25.90407@gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed > > > Hi Susan, > > PHP is a server based language. Does your server support using it? My > take on Rootsweb is that it is as barebones as it gets. > > Cheers, > Sue > Webmaster, Camp Middlebrook DAR, NJ > > > On 11/19/2014 3:00 AM, rootsweb-help-request@rootsweb.com wrote: >> Today's Topics: >> >> 1. PHP usage (Susan Wilson) >> >> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:46:15 +1300 >> From: "Susan Wilson" <susan@kennis.co.nz> >> Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] PHP usage >> To: <ROOTSWEB-HELP@rootsweb.com> >> Message-ID: >> <8FFF596FBADDA64BBC2975408BAC611E0AD8A0@k-server.Kennis.local> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" >> >> Hi, >> >> I'm helping to maintain a NZ Society of Genealogists' branch website and would like to use some PHP scripts. >> >> Please, can anyone tell me how I can access PHP to use? I understand that it is possible to test usage with the utility phpinfo(). But on the site I'm interested in, this appears to do nothing. >> >> >> Thanks >> Susan Wilson >> >> ------------------------------ >> >> To contact the ROOTSWEB-HELP list administrator, send an email to >> ROOTSWEB-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. >> >> To post a message to the ROOTSWEB-HELP mailing list, send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP@rootsweb.com. >> >> __________________________________________________________ >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the >> email with no additional text. >> >> >> End of ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 >> ******************************************** > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ROOTSWEB-HELP list administrator, send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ROOTSWEB-HELP mailing list, send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 10, Issue 1 > ********************************************
Hi Susan, PHP is a server based language. Does your server support using it? My take on Rootsweb is that it is as barebones as it gets. Cheers, Sue Webmaster, Camp Middlebrook DAR, NJ On 11/19/2014 3:00 AM, rootsweb-help-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Today's Topics: > > 1. PHP usage (Susan Wilson) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 19 Nov 2014 19:46:15 +1300 > From: "Susan Wilson" <susan@kennis.co.nz> > Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] PHP usage > To: <ROOTSWEB-HELP@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: > <8FFF596FBADDA64BBC2975408BAC611E0AD8A0@k-server.Kennis.local> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" > > Hi, > > I'm helping to maintain a NZ Society of Genealogists' branch website and would like to use some PHP scripts. > > Please, can anyone tell me how I can access PHP to use? I understand that it is possible to test usage with the utility phpinfo(). But on the site I'm interested in, this appears to do nothing. > > > Thanks > Susan Wilson > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the ROOTSWEB-HELP list administrator, send an email to > ROOTSWEB-HELP-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the ROOTSWEB-HELP mailing list, send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of ROOTSWEB-HELP Digest, Vol 9, Issue 23 > ********************************************
Hi, I'm helping to maintain a NZ Society of Genealogists' branch website and would like to use some PHP scripts. Please, can anyone tell me how I can access PHP to use? I understand that it is possible to test usage with the utility phpinfo(). But on the site I'm interested in, this appears to do nothing. Thanks Susan Wilson
If your sites are located on any of the Rootsweb servers, running php scripts is not available to you. You would need to be on a server which supports and allows the use of php scripts. oat -----Original Message----- I'm helping to maintain a NZ Society of Genealogists' branch website and would like to use some PHP scripts. Please, can anyone tell me how I can access PHP to use? I understand that it is possible to test usage with the utility phpinfo(). But on the site I'm interested in, this appears to do nothing.
Jeff Owens via wrote: > >> At 03:44 PM 9/30/2014, singhals wrote: >>> >>> It seems that it was objecting to the difference between a curved >>> quote mark and an uncurved one. >>> >>> At the VERY least -- changing them made the images appear. >>> >>> >> > On my keyboard there is only one key marked for double quotation marks - > right next to the enter key. (which is hexidecimal U+0022). How that key > entry appears on either monitor or print outs depends upon font selected. > > Can you explain how you determined this was the problem and what you did > to reenter what you found incorrect. > > I am totally puzzled how you arrived at this solution and what you > physically did to resolve it. > Well, remember, the whole mess started when I tried to convert a WORD.doc into WORD.MHT -- that means, it wasn't in plain text, which SHOULD have occurred to me sooner but like I've said, I've had a rough year, so I'm not at peak efficiency. How I determined it was the problem: I tried every trick in my personal What-the-Flip file, I consulted others, I appealed here. None of the excellent suggestions worked. Gritting my teeth and thinking unfriendly thoughts on the parentage of my computer, I went back to hacking at it manually. Then, as I was deleting a ../ I accidentally covered the curly quote and deleted it too. I replaced it with a plain-text quote. and saved. To test whether the removal of the ../ helped anything, I reloaded the page locally. BEhold! the image appeared. Then, I carefully deleted the next ../, saved, and tested. WTF -- no image. Hmmm. /That's/ where I noticed the difference in the " marks. Third paragraph, I deleted the "../ and replaced with " The image appeared. I continued that line by line; only took a couple hours. There were a few others where Word had done something bizarre with the file-name, but since I was testing every two or three replacements, those weren't as hard to find. The Take-Home Lesson: never try to do anything like this the easy way; fixing it takes longer than doing it. Cheryl
Cheryl did you by chance copy and paste from somewhere to have this happen? When I copy a Newspaper article or an obituary and it includes quotes, my Mozilla Thunderbird refuses to accept the quotes like around a nickname until I delete than and then type them back in, then it works find. Les S On 9/30/2014 5:01 PM, singhals via wrote: > Well, I*said* I'd had a rough year. (g) Worse, I found it > accidentally by mistakenly deleting the curved quote and > needing to put it back. > > Yup, computer do*exactly* what you tell 'em to, whether > it's what you wanted done or not. > > Cheryl
At 04:35 PM 9/30/2014, Jim Rickenbacker(1) wrote: >Word's Smart Quotes will get you every time. Turn Smart Quotes OFF >if you are intending to go to HTML. Another reason why generally accepted advice is to NOT use MSWord to created web pages? Rhetorical question only, but thanks for the reminder. Pat Asher
Pat Asher via wrote: > At 03:44 PM 9/30/2014, singhals wrote: >> Oh. Good. Gawd. >> >> It seems that it was objecting to the difference between a curved >> quote mark and an uncurved one. >> >> At the VERY least -- changing them made the images appear. >> >> As I said O G G > > > LOL! > > Remember computers are really stupid. They can only recognize two > things -- the numbers zero (0) and one (1). Of course, when they > evolved past a card punching and sorting tool, they had to develop > ways in which those two digits could be used for interaction between > systems on the web, such as the ASCII codes for input from a > typewriter type keyboard. For example, > > ASCII code for zero:0 -- in computerese: 00110000 > ASCII code uppercase O:O -- in computerese: 01001111 > > Humans can interpret the intent of zero or O depending on > context. Computers only understand computerese. > > That is why syntax (your use of keyboard characters) can affect your output. > > Glad you found the problem. Well, I *said* I'd had a rough year. (g) Worse, I found it accidentally by mistakenly deleting the curved quote and needing to put it back. Yup, computer do *exactly* what you tell 'em to, whether it's what you wanted done or not. Cheryl
> At 03:44 PM 9/30/2014, singhals wrote: >> >> It seems that it was objecting to the difference between a curved >> quote mark and an uncurved one. >> >> At the VERY least -- changing them made the images appear. >> >> > On my keyboard there is only one key marked for double quotation marks - right next to the enter key. (which is hexidecimal U+0022). How that key entry appears on either monitor or print outs depends upon font selected. Can you explain how you determined this was the problem and what you did to reenter what you found incorrect. I am totally puzzled how you arrived at this solution and what you physically did to resolve it. Jeff Owens
At 03:44 PM 9/30/2014, singhals wrote: >Oh. Good. Gawd. > >It seems that it was objecting to the difference between a curved >quote mark and an uncurved one. > >At the VERY least -- changing them made the images appear. > >As I said O G G LOL! Remember computers are really stupid. They can only recognize two things -- the numbers zero (0) and one (1). Of course, when they evolved past a card punching and sorting tool, they had to develop ways in which those two digits could be used for interaction between systems on the web, such as the ASCII codes for input from a typewriter type keyboard. For example, ASCII code for zero: 0 -- in computerese: 00110000 ASCII code uppercase O: O -- in computerese: 01001111 Humans can interpret the intent of zero or O depending on context. Computers only understand computerese. That is why syntax (your use of keyboard characters) can affect your output. Glad you found the problem. Pat A.
Oh. Good. Gawd. It seems that it was objecting to the difference between a curved quote mark and an uncurved one. At the VERY least -- changing them made the images appear. As I said O G G Cheryl Pat Asher wrote: > At 11:06 AM 9/30/2014, singhals wrote: >> Thanks, Pat. >> >> I tried that too. Didn't help. None of the suggestions >> received on-list or off- have helped. >> >> Wonder if it'll work on my 386 ... Probably better to just >> print the .doc file off on paper and scan to pdf. >> >> Cheryl, now Officially Discouraged > > > Cheryl, upload the page and the images -- at least a few of > them linked from the beginning of the page -- so we can look > at your code. Without actually seeing it, we can only guess > at the problem. > > > Pat A. >
Word's Smart Quotes will get you every time. Turn Smart Quotes OFF if you are intending to go to HTML. Jim Rickenbacker On 9/30/2014 3:11 PM, Pat Asher via wrote: > At 03:44 PM 9/30/2014, singhals wrote: >> Oh. Good. Gawd. >> >> It seems that it was objecting to the difference between a curved >> quote mark and an uncurved one. >> >> At the VERY least -- changing them made the images appear. >> >> As I said O G G > > LOL! > > Remember computers are really stupid. They can only recognize two > things -- the numbers zero (0) and one (1). Of course, when they > evolved past a card punching and sorting tool, they had to develop > ways in which those two digits could be used for interaction between > systems on the web, such as the ASCII codes for input from a > typewriter type keyboard. For example, > > ASCII code for zero: 0 -- in computerese: 00110000 > ASCII code uppercase O: O -- in computerese: 01001111 > > Humans can interpret the intent of zero or O depending on > context. Computers only understand computerese. > > That is why syntax (your use of keyboard characters) can affect your output. > > Glad you found the problem. > > Pat A. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ROOTSWEB-HELP-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
At 11:06 AM 9/30/2014, singhals wrote: >Thanks, Pat. > >I tried that too. Didn't help. None of the suggestions received >on-list or off- have helped. > >Wonder if it'll work on my 386 ... Probably better to just print the >.doc file off on paper and scan to pdf. > >Cheryl, now Officially Discouraged Cheryl, upload the page and the images -- at least a few of them linked from the beginning of the page -- so we can look at your code. Without actually seeing it, we can only guess at the problem. Pat A.
Thanks, Pat. I tried that too. Didn't help. None of the suggestions received on-list or off- have helped. Wonder if it'll work on my 386 ... Probably better to just print the .doc file off on paper and scan to pdf. Cheryl, now Officially Discouraged Pat Asher via wrote: > At 10:30 PM 9/29/2014, 3 wrote: >> Your problem is the"..images" should be "..\images". Your second problem >> (which will get you when you upload to a server) is all the "\"s should >> all be"/" for html pages. the "\"s will work on local windows but no >> where else. Windows is perfectly happy with using "/"s as directory >> separators in html pages. > > As Jim said, the backward slash used to indicate a directory on your > home computer, is a forward slash on the web. However, you said "So, > if everything is in the SAME subdirectory, tell me the > call." > > If both the images and the html page from which they are called are > in the same directory, you should not indicate an "images" directory at all. > If the images are in a subdirectory of the directory containing the > html page, they are called using the syntax: > img src="images/filename.jpg" > If the images are located in a directory that is higher up in ;your > directory heirarchy than the page from which they are called, then > the syntax is > img src="../images/filename.jpg" > > Use dot-dot-slash as many times as necessary to find the path to the file. > > > Pat Asher
Thanks; fixed those. Still no images. Jim Rickenbacker(3) wrote: > Your problem is the"..images" should be "..\images". Your > second problem (which will get you when you upload to a > server) is all the "\"s should all be"/" for html pages. the > "\"s will work on local windows but no where else. Windows > is perfectly happy with using "/"s as directory separators > in html pages. > > Jim Rickenbacker > > On 9/29/2014 7:15 PM, singhals via wrote: >> Umm, it's still local. >> >> Neither of the follow two are showing. >> >> <img src=“..images\100_0651 Agya.jpg"> Agya_Ram GUPTA was >> born on 20 Jun 19xx. He married Kaushalya: >> <img src=“..images\100_0647 Kaushalya.jpg" align=right> <P> >> >> BUT: >> >> <img src="..images\100_2414 Raj.jpg"> Raj Kumar BANSAL >> (Ram Bhaj, Abhe Ram) was born on 11 Feb 19xx in Kashmiri >> Gate, Delhi, India. Raj married Savita GUPTA on 29 Jun 20xx >> in Alipur. <br> <img src="..\images\100_2401 Savita.JPG" >> align=right><P> >> >> the second of those two images is showing. >> >> Cheryl >> >> Wjhonson wrote: >>> If you post up and give the link, we can tell you why its >>> not working >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: singhals via <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> >>> To: rootsweb-help <rootsweb-help@rootsweb.com> >>> Sent: Mon, Sep 29, 2014 12:24 pm >>> Subject: [ROOTSWEB-HELP] OK, I'm stumped >>> >>> I'm hoping I'm only stumped until I hit send, of course, but >>> with the year I've had? I doubt I'll get that lucky. >>> >>> OK, I'm working on transferring a 28-pg .doc file with >>> EMBEDDED graphics into a webpage. >>> >>> First I tried just using the WORD option to publish as a mht >>> webpage. Whatever the flip coding it used, the text showed >>> up fine, but no images. >>> >>> Next I tracked down all the original images in that file, >>> and hand-entered the img src= call, saved as plain text >>> (.txt). Opened in Notepad, renamed it .htm; no images in >>> the web browser. >>> >>> OK, I can see that the one I keyed in a .jgp wouldn't work, >>> but once I changed it shouldn't it've? And I can see that >>> since I'm calling .jpg the few .JPG might not show. But >>> where are the other 112? >>> >>> As I've fought it, I've gotten SOME few images to show up -- >>> and darned if I see why Wife's image won't show but >>> husband's does when the only difference I see between the >>> URLs is that the one that is showing up is aligned right. >>> >>> So, if everything is in the SAME subdirectory, tell me the >>> call. I'm using img src="name.jpg" >>> >>> Cheryl