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    1. Re: [RW-Help] New Message Boards
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. they are there. Just follow this procedure very carefully! Do not use abbreviation or plural forms of the ten words obituary biography pension cemetery etc (they are listed in the popup menu in advance search) 1. Enter "obituary" in the box 2. click on the "hole" that is left of the words "THIS BOARD" 3. Press "Go!" button you get all you want. Shame on Joan for not explaining it clearly. David Samuelsen "B. Warner" wrote: > > It's not that I'm so possessive of the work that I've done. I don't have a > Board. I'm just a "plain old user" who has contributed hundreds of obits, > bios and other data in the past year. I'd like to just be able to find them > now. Since there are several of us from my county who post, it's important > that we do a search prior to posting to make sure that it hasn't already > been posted by someone else. I can't get anything to come up when I do the > searches. That's the problem! I know the obits are there, yet when I try > to run a search, it comes up zero! > > Bettye > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann O'Hara" <yannster@ptd.net> > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 2:42 PM > Subject: Re: [RW-Help] New Message Boards > > > Agreed. It seems that all the criticism of everyone who has "boards." > > Frankly, I never understood what "boards" were and was never able to > > navigate them. Naturally, you are all possessive of the work you have > done, > > but isn't it just possible that plain old users will be happy with the new > > system? > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "R. W. Fonken" <rwfonkenmn@worldnet.att.net> > > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 3:10 PM > > Subject: [RW-Help] New Message Boards > > > > > > > > > > > > ============================== > > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > > your heritage! > > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

    06/22/2001 04:43:07
    1. Re: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions
    2. Vonnie
    3. Bettye: But why couldn't "US" volunteers search for what we're looking for also? I think the point is, we all do this from the goodness of our hearts for and to help other people just like we've been helped. If there is something I find interesting - I transcribe it - I'll just search on the boards for it first! I would really hate to see we volunteers "throw in the towel" because of this change. Vonnie vonnieann@earthlink.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "With God All Things Are Possible" -----Original Message----- From: B. Warner <bkwofc@i1.net> To: Vonnie <vonnieann@earthlink.net>; RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:14 PM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions >Vonnie, > >Yes, maybe it does make things easier for the people who are searching for >their own surnames. However, don't forget that a large part of that >information you're finding is coming from we "volunteers" who are going to >the libraries and history centers in our our area, gathering the >information, paying out our money for the photocopies, and spending our free >time to put it online for you to find. We "volunteers" have posted >thousands of obits, bios, etc. on folks we're not even related to just >because we believe that being able to help people discover and preserve >one's family legacy is a good cause. I agree that the new system (once >they get the search engines working right) may make it easier for folks who >are just using the Boards to do their own research. However, it makes it >more difficult for the folks who are submitting the information to keep >straight what has and has not already been posted. If it's more difficult >on the volunteers to do their work, I'm afraid we're going to have a lot of >them throwing in the towel and, in turn, the whole process will suffer >because information which would have otherwise been posted will not be there >to find. > >Bettye > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Vonnie" <vonnieann@earthlink.net> >To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 9:34 PM >Subject: Fw: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions > > >> Ditto Norma! Give it some time, it will work out! Instead of going to >each >> individual board - a person can search for their surname and it get >> everything at once! Great Idea! >> >> Vonnie >> vonnieann@earthlink.net http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocharit/chariton.htm >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> "With God All Things Are Possible" >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Norma F. Jennings <njennings@lisco.net> >> To: RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 11:51 AM >> Subject: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions >> >> >> >I guess we have a whole different idea of volunteerism down here in >Louisa >> County. Data itself is >> >not copyrightable and when >> >I and my co-members type up databases, etc. for Rootsweb, it is with the >> idea that OTHER people can >> >now have access to the >> >same information as we do. Now, when I donate to the Red Cross, the >Heart >> Association, and other >> >charities, I don't expect >> >to retain complete ownership of my contribution. I have the satisfaction >> of knowing that a few >> >pennies will help someone >> >else even though after working in a hospital, I know that most of that >> contribution will go for >> >researchers and secretaries >> >salaries and will never be seen by the patient. There are certain >> administrative costs and >> >maintenance fees that are >> >necessary for the patient to finally obtain any benefit. I can't boss >any >> of these projects but hope >> >I have helped in some >> >way. I absolutely do not understand the proprietary attitude and >> possessiveness of people working as >> >so called volunteers. >> >I am grateful for all the free web space I have been allocated in order >to >> help others. >> > >> >No matter what it is, there are some people that will always fight >change. >> I tell my husband, when >> >he comes home and gripes >> >what the younger generation is doing downtown for improvements he thinks >> are unnecessary, to not >> >voice his negativism too >> >loudly as that is a sure sign of being dubbed "old" when you resist all >new >> ideas. Most opposition >> >is from ignorance and >> >often your worst fears are never realized. Think about it. Are you a >> "volunteer with strings" or a >> >"contributor to >> >mankind"? >> > >> >Control is not an issue with me as I know what my real copyright issues >are >> and I don't expect to >> >copyright every word I >> >write as much of it will eventually be deleted or forgotten anyway. >> > >> >Those of you padding this list with your complaints are part of the >> problem. Try a little patience >> >and the bugs in the new >> >system will be worked out. Anyone experienced with new database systems >> know from the beginning that >> >there will be necessary >> >enhancements once the system is up and running to identify the problem >> areas. Everyone impatiently >> >hitting the link >> >repeatedly so they can join the "rabble rousing" is causing the rest of >us >> to wait longer to access >> >the site to claim our >> >sites. And it is irritating the heck out of me when you keep asking the >> obvious questions that have >> >already been answered.. >> > >> >I have been more than amply paid for anything that I have contributed by >> the appreciation shown from >> >others and the tons of >> >info I have found in return. I have used Ancestry in the past to locate >> relatives that otherwise >> >defied my efforts. For >> >this, I feel my money was well spent to access their site for a few >months. >> And they still have the >> >best resource on the >> >market with their "Source" book published a few years back. These are >> good people but they do need >> >to charge for a few >> >things to stay on the air. >> >We all will eventually return to the dust anyway, we can't take it with >us. >> >I would rather see it available for future generations than develop >> paranoia for fear someone else >> >will use my work. >> > >> >Norma Jennings >> > >> >______________________________ >> >> >> >> ============================== >> Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >> Source for Family History Online. Go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >> > >

    06/22/2001 04:27:06
    1. Re: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions
    2. B. Warner
    3. Vonnie, Yes, maybe it does make things easier for the people who are searching for their own surnames. However, don't forget that a large part of that information you're finding is coming from we "volunteers" who are going to the libraries and history centers in our our area, gathering the information, paying out our money for the photocopies, and spending our free time to put it online for you to find. We "volunteers" have posted thousands of obits, bios, etc. on folks we're not even related to just because we believe that being able to help people discover and preserve one's family legacy is a good cause. I agree that the new system (once they get the search engines working right) may make it easier for folks who are just using the Boards to do their own research. However, it makes it more difficult for the folks who are submitting the information to keep straight what has and has not already been posted. If it's more difficult on the volunteers to do their work, I'm afraid we're going to have a lot of them throwing in the towel and, in turn, the whole process will suffer because information which would have otherwise been posted will not be there to find. Bettye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vonnie" <vonnieann@earthlink.net> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 9:34 PM Subject: Fw: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions > Ditto Norma! Give it some time, it will work out! Instead of going to each > individual board - a person can search for their surname and it get > everything at once! Great Idea! > > Vonnie > vonnieann@earthlink.net http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocharit/chariton.htm > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "With God All Things Are Possible" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Norma F. Jennings <njennings@lisco.net> > To: RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 11:51 AM > Subject: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions > > > >I guess we have a whole different idea of volunteerism down here in Louisa > County. Data itself is > >not copyrightable and when > >I and my co-members type up databases, etc. for Rootsweb, it is with the > idea that OTHER people can > >now have access to the > >same information as we do. Now, when I donate to the Red Cross, the Heart > Association, and other > >charities, I don't expect > >to retain complete ownership of my contribution. I have the satisfaction > of knowing that a few > >pennies will help someone > >else even though after working in a hospital, I know that most of that > contribution will go for > >researchers and secretaries > >salaries and will never be seen by the patient. There are certain > administrative costs and > >maintenance fees that are > >necessary for the patient to finally obtain any benefit. I can't boss any > of these projects but hope > >I have helped in some > >way. I absolutely do not understand the proprietary attitude and > possessiveness of people working as > >so called volunteers. > >I am grateful for all the free web space I have been allocated in order to > help others. > > > >No matter what it is, there are some people that will always fight change. > I tell my husband, when > >he comes home and gripes > >what the younger generation is doing downtown for improvements he thinks > are unnecessary, to not > >voice his negativism too > >loudly as that is a sure sign of being dubbed "old" when you resist all new > ideas. Most opposition > >is from ignorance and > >often your worst fears are never realized. Think about it. Are you a > "volunteer with strings" or a > >"contributor to > >mankind"? > > > >Control is not an issue with me as I know what my real copyright issues are > and I don't expect to > >copyright every word I > >write as much of it will eventually be deleted or forgotten anyway. > > > >Those of you padding this list with your complaints are part of the > problem. Try a little patience > >and the bugs in the new > >system will be worked out. Anyone experienced with new database systems > know from the beginning that > >there will be necessary > >enhancements once the system is up and running to identify the problem > areas. Everyone impatiently > >hitting the link > >repeatedly so they can join the "rabble rousing" is causing the rest of us > to wait longer to access > >the site to claim our > >sites. And it is irritating the heck out of me when you keep asking the > obvious questions that have > >already been answered.. > > > >I have been more than amply paid for anything that I have contributed by > the appreciation shown from > >others and the tons of > >info I have found in return. I have used Ancestry in the past to locate > relatives that otherwise > >defied my efforts. For > >this, I feel my money was well spent to access their site for a few months. > And they still have the > >best resource on the > >market with their "Source" book published a few years back. These are > good people but they do need > >to charge for a few > >things to stay on the air. > >We all will eventually return to the dust anyway, we can't take it with us. > >I would rather see it available for future generations than develop > paranoia for fear someone else > >will use my work. > > > >Norma Jennings > > > >______________________________ > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

    06/22/2001 04:20:36
    1. Fw: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions
    2. Vonnie
    3. Ditto Norma! Give it some time, it will work out! Instead of going to each individual board - a person can search for their surname and it get everything at once! Great Idea! Vonnie vonnieann@earthlink.net http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocharit/chariton.htm ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "With God All Things Are Possible" -----Original Message----- From: Norma F. Jennings <njennings@lisco.net> To: RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 11:51 AM Subject: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions >I guess we have a whole different idea of volunteerism down here in Louisa County. Data itself is >not copyrightable and when >I and my co-members type up databases, etc. for Rootsweb, it is with the idea that OTHER people can >now have access to the >same information as we do. Now, when I donate to the Red Cross, the Heart Association, and other >charities, I don't expect >to retain complete ownership of my contribution. I have the satisfaction of knowing that a few >pennies will help someone >else even though after working in a hospital, I know that most of that contribution will go for >researchers and secretaries >salaries and will never be seen by the patient. There are certain administrative costs and >maintenance fees that are >necessary for the patient to finally obtain any benefit. I can't boss any of these projects but hope >I have helped in some >way. I absolutely do not understand the proprietary attitude and possessiveness of people working as >so called volunteers. >I am grateful for all the free web space I have been allocated in order to help others. > >No matter what it is, there are some people that will always fight change. I tell my husband, when >he comes home and gripes >what the younger generation is doing downtown for improvements he thinks are unnecessary, to not >voice his negativism too >loudly as that is a sure sign of being dubbed "old" when you resist all new ideas. Most opposition >is from ignorance and >often your worst fears are never realized. Think about it. Are you a "volunteer with strings" or a >"contributor to >mankind"? > >Control is not an issue with me as I know what my real copyright issues are and I don't expect to >copyright every word I >write as much of it will eventually be deleted or forgotten anyway. > >Those of you padding this list with your complaints are part of the problem. Try a little patience >and the bugs in the new >system will be worked out. Anyone experienced with new database systems know from the beginning that >there will be necessary >enhancements once the system is up and running to identify the problem areas. Everyone impatiently >hitting the link >repeatedly so they can join the "rabble rousing" is causing the rest of us to wait longer to access >the site to claim our >sites. And it is irritating the heck out of me when you keep asking the obvious questions that have >already been answered.. > >I have been more than amply paid for anything that I have contributed by the appreciation shown from >others and the tons of >info I have found in return. I have used Ancestry in the past to locate relatives that otherwise >defied my efforts. For >this, I feel my money was well spent to access their site for a few months. And they still have the >best resource on the >market with their "Source" book published a few years back. These are good people but they do need >to charge for a few >things to stay on the air. >We all will eventually return to the dust anyway, we can't take it with us. >I would rather see it available for future generations than develop paranoia for fear someone else >will use my work. > >Norma Jennings > >______________________________

    06/22/2001 03:34:06
    1. Re: [RW-Help] Boards - obits, etc.
    2. In a message dated 6/22/01 4:34:32 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bprest@netdoor.com writes: > I can agree with trying to find things. When I click on my Queries logo, it > goes straight to Queries. When I click on Obits, etc., I go through 5 or 6 > screens choosing appropriate options and end up at the queries. I'm not > trying to be critical of this, but are the Obits, Bible Records, etc. gone > or is there a place to find the url? Maybe once we get past the initial > headaches, it will work fine. Also, when I click on Admin Help, I get a > popup window, but nothing shows up. Barbara- They are all housed on the one master board, but each data type is searchable individually and postable by classification of data type. Joan

    06/22/2001 12:50:39
    1. [RW-Help] Cindy Dahl
    2. Cleadie Barnett
    3. Some of my entries have also switched to this name. I looked at one earlier in the day and it was in my name, when I came back this evening it was switched to her name. Also a few others on my board have her name, that were not there before. ??? Cleadie B. PS I had one problem logging on. Make sure you are using the "log on" and not the "new registering" form. If you have a name/password with them you do not need to register, just log in.

    06/22/2001 12:48:44
    1. Re: [RW-Help] Boards - obits, etc.
    2. In a message dated 6/22/01 5:10:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bkwofc@i1.net writes: > It appears to me that all the data from all the separate boards have all > been combined into the query board. It's kind of ironic given how strict > they've always been about no queries on data boards, isn't it? I think > the days of strictly being able to look at just obits, or just bios, or just > bible entries, or just wills, etc. is gone. If I'm wrong, please let me > know. > Bettye- They are all physically on one board but postable and searchable by classification--the categories you are used to and new ones you've asked for. The best of both worlds. The ease of one board and the functions of many. Joan

    06/22/2001 11:57:36
    1. Re: [RW-Help] Boards - obits, etc.
    2. B. Warner
    3. Joan, When I do a search by author using my name (B.W.) to try to find all my previous posts, none of my St. Francois County, MO posts show up. They show up for adjoining counties and in other states, but nothing for St. Francois County, and that's where I mainly post. The previous board was spelled StFrancois without the period. Is it possible that this has caused a glitch? I know I can do a locality search to get to them, but if someone just wants to search my name to see what all I've posted, they're missing out on my St. Francois County, MO posts. Bettye ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <bkwofc@i1.net>; <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 4:57 PM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Boards - obits, etc. > In a message dated 6/22/01 5:10:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bkwofc@i1.net > writes: > > > It appears to me that all the data from all the separate boards have all > > been combined into the query board. It's kind of ironic given how strict > > they've always been about no queries on data boards, isn't it? I think > > the days of strictly being able to look at just obits, or just bios, or > just > > bible entries, or just wills, etc. is gone. If I'm wrong, please let me > > know. > > > > Bettye- > > They are all physically on one board but postable and searchable by > classification--the categories you are used to and new ones you've asked for. > The best of both worlds. The ease of one board and the functions of many. > > Joan > >

    06/22/2001 11:18:18
    1. Re: [RW-Help] New Message Boards
    2. In a message dated 6/22/01 4:04:18 PM Eastern Daylight Time, bkwofc@i1.net writes: > That's the problem! I know the obits are there, yet when I try > to run a search, it comes up zero! > Bettys- Try reading the Searches Help text in the Message Board Help but also keep in mind that we are still working to stabilize the search function--so it might just be a bug. Joan

    06/22/2001 10:13:12
    1. [RW-Help] Information: Yours and mine
    2. Dan Hamrick
    3. Dear friends: The discussion can continue, as they say, until they are blue in the face. But I believe there would be substantial legal questions raised if information that one created oneself and contributed to a web site and that web site closed off access to it. Without being too brutally blunt about it, what would be the difference between that legally if your grandfather had a foal and it went into his neighbor's barn and the neighbor locked the door and barred grandfather access to the foal? Data can, in fact, be copyrighted. The laws related to the degree to which they are your unique creation. No pretense can stop that. To use the foal analogy again, as rough as it is, just because someone let their foal into their pasture does not mean they can keep it. The issue becomes compounded when your information is used for commercial purposes. That raises all sorts of legal questions involving copyright that could be redressed in court. It is true that the laws involving copyright have yet to evolve enough to handle all the questions being raised by the internet. But the courts have told Napster they can't take one person's recording of music and give it to another. I am less than impressed by the charitable nature of an organization that offers web space to obtain information, gets thousands of contributions and then says it is selling them, if I understand the issue. dhamrick@neo.rr.com Daniel A. Hamrick 402 23rd Street NW Canton OH 44709 1-330-454-2376

    06/22/2001 10:12:23
    1. Re: [RW-Help] Boards - obits, etc.
    2. B. Warner
    3. Barb, It appears to me that all the data from all the separate boards have all been combined into the query board. It's kind of ironic given how strict they've always been about no queries on data boards, isn't it? I think the days of strictly being able to look at just obits, or just bios, or just bible entries, or just wills, etc. is gone. If I'm wrong, please let me know. Bettye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Prestridge" <bprest@netdoor.com> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 3:28 PM Subject: [RW-Help] Boards - obits, etc. > I can agree with trying to find things. When I click on my Queries logo, it > goes straight to Queries. When I click on Obits, etc., I go through 5 or 6 > screens choosing appropriate options and end up at the queries. I'm not > trying to be critical of this, but are the Obits, Bible Records, etc. gone > or is there a place to find the url? Maybe once we get past the initial > headaches, it will work fine. Also, when I click on Admin Help, I get a > popup window, but nothing shows up. > > Barbara > http://www.rootsweb.com/~mslincol/ > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "B. Warner" <bkwofc@i1.net> > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 2:51 PM > Subject: Re: [RW-Help] New Message Boards > > > It's not that I'm so possessive of the work that I've done. I don't have a > Board. I'm just a "plain old user" who has contributed hundreds of obits, > bios and other data in the past year. I'd like to just be able to find them > now. Since there are several of us from my county who post, it's important > that we do a search prior to posting to make sure that it hasn't already > been posted by someone else. I can't get anything to come up when I do the > searches. That's the problem! I know the obits are there, yet when I try > to run a search, it comes up zero! > > Bettye > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > >

    06/22/2001 09:57:46
    1. Re: [RW-Help] New Message Boards
    2. Ann O'Hara
    3. Agreed. It seems that all the criticism of everyone who has "boards." Frankly, I never understood what "boards" were and was never able to navigate them. Naturally, you are all possessive of the work you have done, but isn't it just possible that plain old users will be happy with the new system? ----- Original Message ----- From: "R. W. Fonken" <rwfonkenmn@worldnet.att.net> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 3:10 PM Subject: [RW-Help] New Message Boards

    06/22/2001 09:42:17
    1. Re: [RW-Help] Information: Yours and mine
    2. Norma F. Jennings
    3. I can find no evidence whatsoever that Rootsweb or Ancestry.com for that matter are selling our information. The new boards "rules" pages clearly state that both the GenConnect and MyFamily message boards combined will be free to users. Folks, please read what really is going on right now and don't jump to conclusions prematurely. Noone is getting robbed. The same Hubbub went on when Ancestry.com bought Rootsweb and we continued to operate our little niches pretty much the same with the exception our websites are now all free and not just the freepages. Better, yes. I think in time you will have to agree that this latest change is for the better. Norma

    06/22/2001 09:29:41
    1. [RW-Help] Boards - obits, etc.
    2. Barbara Prestridge
    3. I can agree with trying to find things. When I click on my Queries logo, it goes straight to Queries. When I click on Obits, etc., I go through 5 or 6 screens choosing appropriate options and end up at the queries. I'm not trying to be critical of this, but are the Obits, Bible Records, etc. gone or is there a place to find the url? Maybe once we get past the initial headaches, it will work fine. Also, when I click on Admin Help, I get a popup window, but nothing shows up. Barbara http://www.rootsweb.com/~mslincol/ ----- Original Message ----- From: "B. Warner" <bkwofc@i1.net> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] New Message Boards It's not that I'm so possessive of the work that I've done. I don't have a Board. I'm just a "plain old user" who has contributed hundreds of obits, bios and other data in the past year. I'd like to just be able to find them now. Since there are several of us from my county who post, it's important that we do a search prior to posting to make sure that it hasn't already been posted by someone else. I can't get anything to come up when I do the searches. That's the problem! I know the obits are there, yet when I try to run a search, it comes up zero! Bettye

    06/22/2001 09:28:01
    1. Re: [RW-Help] New Message Boards
    2. B. Warner
    3. It's not that I'm so possessive of the work that I've done. I don't have a Board. I'm just a "plain old user" who has contributed hundreds of obits, bios and other data in the past year. I'd like to just be able to find them now. Since there are several of us from my county who post, it's important that we do a search prior to posting to make sure that it hasn't already been posted by someone else. I can't get anything to come up when I do the searches. That's the problem! I know the obits are there, yet when I try to run a search, it comes up zero! Bettye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann O'Hara" <yannster@ptd.net> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 2:42 PM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] New Message Boards > Agreed. It seems that all the criticism of everyone who has "boards." > Frankly, I never understood what "boards" were and was never able to > navigate them. Naturally, you are all possessive of the work you have done, > but isn't it just possible that plain old users will be happy with the new > system? > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "R. W. Fonken" <rwfonkenmn@worldnet.att.net> > To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 3:10 PM > Subject: [RW-Help] New Message Boards > > > > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > >

    06/22/2001 08:51:52
    1. [RW-Help] Re: Boards
    2. Jane Goodsell
    3. I have been like Nell, running in circles since 6 am EST. My address to click on was on one line but every time I tried submitting my user name and password, I was told there was an error in one or both of them. BUT 5 minutes ago the stupid thing knew me and I got in. It went thru!! BUT... The kicker to this whole thing now is .....that my REQUEST for my board has been submitted to the web master and I would have a reply back by email. After what we all have been thru today, I for one, am not holding my breath waiting for a speedy reply!!! All of this should have been set up in advance so that we did not have to go thru all this frustration. If we, as board Adm.'s, had to log in, the login box should have recognized us, just as we did before on our GenWeb boards and we would have been on our merry way. Now we have to wait for a reply!!! I am now past the point of being an unhappy camper!! Keep trying Nell, your wait is not over!! Jane Goodsell, CC

    06/22/2001 08:32:27
    1. [RW-Help] New Message Boards
    2. R. W. Fonken
    3. HI all, I am requesting that we all back off on criticism of the new boards for a few days and just stick to viable questions regarding the new boards. As in most new things, there will always be bugs to iron out. I remember the GenConnect Boards needed "tweaking" when they first came "onboard" and it took time for them to be ironed out. Instead of "slamming" the new system, let's work with it as it appears this is the "new way" and it is here to stay. Patience, T FYI: I am not part of the new system, I just take care a few boards.

    06/22/2001 08:10:14
    1. [RW-Help] Re: RootsWeb-Help-D Digest V01 #122
    2. One more thing just for note: I signed on with my new ID and password, tried to post a message and after typing out my message and click the post message it tell me "the page can not be found". Maybe this might all be easier to understand if some one could tell me what was wrong with the old boards which I loved. And maybe why these changes were needed. Lenda

    06/22/2001 07:38:12
    1. [RW-Help] Re: RootsWeb-Help-D Digest V01 #121
    2. Okay, This morning I have done a lot of reading about the boards. I do not admin a board of any kind. I to volunteer for a St. Francis County, Arkansas page that I post county information on. My family has worked hard at posting what we hope is useful information. My page is not listed in the drop box for the state of Arkansas because some one else has adopted that page. I live in this county and have access to the information and post the information that we have collected in our owe research. The moral to the story it this, after I complete a cemetery page or etc. I have listed some of them on the query boards to people doing research in this county will know there is somewhere that might have the information they are looking for. Using the new board I went to St. Francis County, Arkansas that was not list listed in the first set of counties found my message for Barnishaw Cemetery clicked on the link that was checked when I posted it and the link no longer works. I try hard not to complain about much because this is FREE space and I was thankful for the space. But, we also provide FREE labor to go with this free space and would like for things to work. I do not want to work hard at trying to help someone else if my pages are not going to be able to be found. Even though my system maybe a little backwards I know it was working and people were able to find the pages because the hit counter on the page would increase after a posting. So with all that said are the links that were posted to a Query Board before the change going to work or not? Lenda

    06/22/2001 07:23:52
    1. Re: [RW-Help] Re: Boards
    2. Nel Hatcher
    3. Jane! Lucky You!! At least you've made progress.... I am still stuck in this Username already exists mode, have tried all suggestions offered by everyone, and NOTHING works! After patiently going back to the Admins board, trying everything again, and then flipping back to record exact results step by step, I went back to try one remaining option, got a "page can't be displayed" msg, so hit my Back button and suddenly got the following screen: Messsage Board Administration No message boards have been associated with your email addresss: nelhatch@rapidnet.com Please contact Support for assistance. AAARRRGGGGGGGGGGG!!!!!!!!!!!! So I sent my msg to "Support" and it wasn't pretty. This usually very laid back lady has just about lost it. I am NOT to be messed with today :-( It will probably take 3 days to get an answer from Support. Am I negative or what?? Make my day!! I dare you! Nel

    06/22/2001 07:07:41