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    1. [RW-Help] Common Questions
    2. Nancy Beach
    3. The HelpDesk has put together a page with the most common questions we have been receiving about the message boards. They are listed on the two pages shown below. http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/questions_boards.html http://helpdesk.rootsweb.com/help.cgi You may find it helpful to look there while working with the new message boards, and then post any additional questions or problems with the HelpDesk (the second URL shown above). We are sending in bug reports (things not working as intended or should be) and suggestions to the programmers and management as we receive them. Nancy RootsWeb.com P.S. The HelpDesk Team is still doing spelling and grammar checks, so be kind and overlook them if you see any. :-)

    06/23/2001 12:48:02
    1. [RW-Help] New Board
    2. Karen Marks
    3. .....sssshhhhhhhh.......don't tell anyone, but I think I'm going to like this new board when I get used to it. I just spent the afternoon feeliing it out and it's not all that bad. There are lots more options. And when all the bugs are worked out, it will be "a good thing". Karen Marks http://www.rootsweb.com/~inmarsha

    06/23/2001 12:09:01
    1. [RW-Help] Re: Boards
    2. Jane Goodsell
    3. Joan: I finally got thru the login box yesterday about 2pm EST and was told I would get an email back confirming Adm. for my Board. I have heard nothing so far. How far are they behind?? Do you have any clue??? Jane Goodsell, CC Gloucester Co.

    06/23/2001 10:49:46
    1. Re: [RW-Help] Re: RootsWeb-Help-D Digest V01 #125
    2. In a message dated 6/23/01 1:11:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time, donkelly@grovenet.net writes: > How to I breach that catch-22? How can my boards be protected until the > system is fixed? Everyone associate with the coding have no time to see why > my username won't work > > Thanks all. Hope someone can help. > > Peace to all who enter this house > Donald O'Collaugh Kelly Don- I've added your address and name to the list of admins who have not received a notice. I'm looking into this issue. Joan

    06/23/2001 09:01:26
    1. Re: [RW-Help] MESSAGE TRAFIIC ON THis MAIL LIST !
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. you haven't gone over to boards-admins-L on this matter. That is where all kinds of matters to check on and discuss on and reporting bugs involving the new message system. Brace for high volume of messages from that list. Yesterday it was close to 700. Today 160, a big slow down as of 12:15 pm my time. David duanewin wrote: > > >From the traffic on this list and the nature of them, > it seems that there might have been a lack [?] of coordination between > rootsweb and the board admin people ? > > was there a pre survey by rootsweb as to the opinion of the administrators > of the boards to see if there would be these problems ? > > Duane Windsor > Carson City, NV > duanewin@gateway.net > > When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. > - U.S. Grant > > ============================== > Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com

    06/23/2001 06:09:07
    1. [RW-Help] Re: RootsWeb-Help-D Digest V01 #117
    2. Sharon L Fakkema
    3. Hi all, Several of you have been kind to respond to my request for help. Unfortunately, this week has been spent in the hospital. I'll have to put off reading your responses and get back to each of you. Thanks, Sharon On Fri, 15 Jun 2001 02:01:04 -0600 RootsWeb-Help-D-request@rootsweb.com writes:

    06/23/2001 06:08:41
    1. Re: [RW-Help] Board Admins
    2. Donkelly
    3. I notified Joan that I had received the email indicated yesterday and I still haven't received the email. Without it (apparently) I can't move ahead. I am stuck HELP!!!!! Peace to all who enter this house Donald O'Collaugh Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: <JYoung6180@aol.com> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 4:53 AM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Board Admins In a message dated 6/22/01 10:28:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, nelhatch@rapidnet.com writes: > Where on this limited screen does it recognize me as a Board admin and not a > regular user? And what am I supposed to enter for username? > Nel- In order to help you I'd need to see the URL you were sent in the email. Joan

    06/23/2001 04:10:04
    1. [RW-Help] Re: RootsWeb-Help-D Digest V01 #125
    2. Donkelly
    3. I really don't know who to ask to protect my boards from adoption until my access to them is restored. I know many have gone in, put in their username and password and reclaimed their boards.....no problem, but I have tried the same think on several of my boards and had no success. When I put in my username donkelly (which I have used for six years) the message says username already taken.....of course it is because it is mine, but somehow my password don't work and I can't enter a new password because username donkelly is taken. How to I breach that catch-22? How can my boards be protected until the system is fixed? Everyone associate with the coding have no time to see why my username won't work Thanks all. Hope someone can help. Peace to all who enter this house Donald O'Collaugh Kelly ----- Original Message ----- From: <RootsWeb-Help-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <RootsWeb-Help-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 23, 2001 9:03 AM Subject: RootsWeb-Help-D Digest V01 #125

    06/23/2001 04:06:23
    1. [RW-Help] Transcriber Posts --> Cindy Dahl?
    2. Tracey Morris
    3. > I'm waiting for answer as to why a certain "Cindy Dahl" claimed all > my transcriber posts as her own. > > W. David Samuelsen Hmm.. so it's not just me! Any posting made without an e-mail address on my two boards (Hillsdale Co MI & Howard Co IN) appears to have been assigned to Cindy Dahl as well. To confirm: Visit Boards > Localities > United States > States > Michigan > Counties > Hillsdale and search for "Compendium" or "Portrait & Bio" or Boards > Localities > United States > States > Indiana > Counties > Howard and search for "World War" Wonder how THIS glitch is going to be resolved.... Tracey Morris

    06/23/2001 03:26:09
    1. [RW-Help] MESSAGE TRAFIIC ON THis MAIL LIST !
    2. duanewin
    3. >From the traffic on this list and the nature of them, it seems that there might have been a lack [?] of coordination between rootsweb and the board admin people ? was there a pre survey by rootsweb as to the opinion of the administrators of the boards to see if there would be these problems ? Duane Windsor Carson City, NV duanewin@gateway.net When you find yourself in a hole, stop digging. - U.S. Grant

    06/23/2001 03:08:30
    1. Re: [RW-Help] Board Admins
    2. In a message dated 6/22/01 10:28:43 AM Eastern Daylight Time, nelhatch@rapidnet.com writes: > Where on this limited screen does it recognize me as a Board admin and not a > regular user? And what am I supposed to enter for username? > Nel- In order to help you I'd need to see the URL you were sent in the email. Joan

    06/23/2001 01:53:02
    1. Re: [RW-Help] New Message Boards
    2. In a message dated 6/23/01 12:56:29 AM Eastern Daylight Time, dsam@sampubco.com writes: > Shame on Joan for not explaining it clearly. David- Well, it is all included in the Message Board Help text in full. :-) Joan

    06/22/2001 11:00:08
    1. Re: [RW-Help] 7 boards
    2. Andrew Billinghurst
    3. David, Patience! Please! Continually berating doesn't get it done quicker, it actually gets people distracted from fixing things by providing user support one on one, ie. spending time pacifying rather than fixing. The login issues didn't just affect you, they also affected staff and I can tell you that my need to login was greater than yours. We are working on issue and after starting with a 6am conference call, I am still going 21 hours later. Please have patience. Regards Andrew On 22 Jun 2001, at 10:35, W. David Samuelsen <dsam@sampubco.com> wrote: > the separate boards were best! Never a problem. Now with combined > method I can NOT find my 800+ obits and 600+ bios!!! Advanced > Search is an absolute joke. All wrong hits and wrong geograhic area. > Even with narrowing method. Still waiting for answer on this on > boards-admins-L. > > David Samuelsen > > > > "Warren T. Bagley" wrote: > > > > The separate 7 boards have been the joke in my opinion. They have been > > abused since the first entry several years ago. It's been an admin > > nightmare all along. > > > > If you would get to the new system to send a query, will, obit or > > whatever, you will see the options for some "great stuff". Sure I've > > got a lot of work to do to change my county web pages and work with the > > users, but I'm confiident this is going to be a far better method. Look > > at what you can do with it! This is a dramatic change and it's like a > > new world to me like I'm sure it is to you, but it's going to work. > > > > I've already got a hundred passwords, what's one more? > > > > I do fill a little sorry for the people that had the other 6 boards. > > > > Warren > > > > ============================== > > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > -- Andrew Billinghurst <billingh@rootsweb.com> Genealogy mailing lists: http://lists.rootsweb.com/ New Databases (check often): http://searches.rootsweb.com/ Data Submission Form: http://userdb.rootsweb.com/submit.html

    06/22/2001 09:03:16
    1. Re: [RW-Help] RE:Message boards message from Admin.
    2. Andrew Billinghurst
    3. Two options that I see. 1) You can request a new username. You don't have to pair it with your current login. You can have two accounts for the same email address. 2) If you do want to pair it, then go through the process of getting the password reissued (via Forgot your password? Click Here.), and then you can tie it all together. This only works if the same email address obviously. Regards Andrew On 22 Jun 2001, at 8:48, Nel Hatcher <nelhatch@rapidnet.com> wrote: > I've now gotten into the Board Admin signup page - thank you, Andrew! The > problem still exists - username. > > It keeps telling me my username already exists. Of COURSE it does! One of my > biggest problems with myfamily/ancestry.com is that when I try to access one > of their pages, it takes me 10 mins trying to find the correct > username/password. And by the time I stumble onto the right combination, I > no longer know how I did it. > > I don't understand WHY, when I supply everything but my SS#, that the system > can't recognize that the person entering all this info IS the person who > owns that "existing" username and allow me to continue. It is attempting to > force me to select another username which is the core of the problem. Too > many usernames scattered all over these sites. > > Perhaps it boils down to what the definition of IS is :-) > > Nel > > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library > -- Andrew Billinghurst Genealogy mailing lists: http://lists.rootsweb.com/ New Databases (check often): http://searches.rootsweb.com/ Data Submission Form: http://userdb.rootsweb.com/submit.html

    06/22/2001 07:36:49
    1. Re: [RW-Help] New Message Boards
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. that is a bug. Some came up 1000 and other more. or less. David "B. Warner" wrote: > > David, > > Thanks! By the way, we had about 2500 obits on our Board before the > switch-over, however, when I put "obituary" in the box and click "this > Board" and press "GO", it only comes up with 1000. How do you get past that > number to get them all? > > Bettye > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

    06/22/2001 07:14:49
    1. Re: [RW-Help] Board Admins
    2. Andrew Billinghurst
    3. Nel, The URL is long make sure that you get it all, and if your mail reader has broken the url over two lines, you will need to patch it back together on the location line of your browser. Regards Andrew On 22 Jun 2001, at 8:17, Nel Hatcher <nelhatch@rapidnet.com> wrote: > I have tried this morning to go to the special URL from the msg sent > yesterday. All that is on this page is a blue bar with the following links. > > Request Board Topic | Message Board Rules | Message Board FAQ | Message > Board Help > > I can reach a Login screen which requests username and password. I know what > my password is for my Genconnect boards, but those boards never required a > username. No matter what I try, I'm rejected. > > Where on this limited screen does it recognize me as a Board admin and not a > regular user? And what am I supposed to enter for username? > > Still not a happy camper, > Nel > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog > -- Andrew Billinghurst Genealogy mailing lists: http://lists.rootsweb.com/ New Databases (check often): http://searches.rootsweb.com/ Data Submission Form: http://userdb.rootsweb.com/submit.html

    06/22/2001 06:25:50
    1. Re: [RW-Help] New Message Boards
    2. B. Warner
    3. David, Thanks! By the way, we had about 2500 obits on our Board before the switch-over, however, when I put "obituary" in the box and click "this Board" and press "GO", it only comes up with 1000. How do you get past that number to get them all? Bettye

    06/22/2001 06:10:14
    1. Re: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions
    2. Vonnie
    3. Bettye: I've not had that trouble - I searched for my posts and I got them???? Hmmm why would some come up and not others - maybe there are still "bugs" they are trying to fix. Vonnie - CC for Chariton Co., MO (http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocharit/chariton.htm) vonnieann@earthlink.net ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "With God All Things Are Possible" -----Original Message----- From: B. Warner <bkwofc@i1.net> To: Vonnie <vonnieann@earthlink.net>; RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 11:04 PM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions >Vonnie, > >I'm not saying "US" volunteers shouldn't be able to search for the >information! I think you're totally missing my point! The problem is that >when I now search for something that I know has definitely posted, I'm not >finding it. For example, I've posted a lot of obits on Jones & Blackwell >(my own family line) to the St. Francois County GenConnect Obituaries Board >over the past year. Now when I go to St. Francois County Board and click >"search this board" and put in the surname "Blackwell" or the surname "Jones >", I get message "zero" found, yet when I manually scan down through the >list (which I shouldn't have to do), I can find these names. Why are they >not coming up on the search? I've tried the advance search too, but it >won't let you limit search to one geographic area so you're getting them >from everywhere. Jones is not a name that you want to put in a search >window without being able to limit it to a particular area. Also when I try >to search by my name as author, I'm not getting them either. I too am very >happy to contribute the information, however, I want to be able to easily >find it, and I want others to be able to easily find it after it's been >submitted. I also want to be able to accurately search to see if it's >already been submitted before I submit it. > >Bettye > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Vonnie" <vonnieann@earthlink.net> >To: "B. Warner" <bkwofc@i1.net>; <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:27 PM >Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions > > >> Bettye: >> >> But why couldn't "US" volunteers search for what we're looking for also? I >> think the point is, we all do this from the goodness of our hearts for and >> to help other people just like we've been helped. If there is something I >> find interesting - I transcribe it - I'll just search on the boards for it >> first! I would really hate to see we volunteers "throw in the towel" >> because of this change. >> >> Vonnie >> vonnieann@earthlink.net >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> "With God All Things Are Possible" >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: B. Warner <bkwofc@i1.net> >> To: Vonnie <vonnieann@earthlink.net>; RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com >> <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> >> Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:14 PM >> Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions >> >> >> >Vonnie, >> > >> >Yes, maybe it does make things easier for the people who are searching >for >> >their own surnames. However, don't forget that a large part of that >> >information you're finding is coming from we "volunteers" who are going >to >> >the libraries and history centers in our our area, gathering the >> >information, paying out our money for the photocopies, and spending our >> free >> >time to put it online for you to find. We "volunteers" have posted >> >thousands of obits, bios, etc. on folks we're not even related to just >> >because we believe that being able to help people discover and preserve >> >one's family legacy is a good cause. I agree that the new system (once >> >they get the search engines working right) may make it easier for folks >who >> >are just using the Boards to do their own research. However, it makes it >> >more difficult for the folks who are submitting the information to keep >> >straight what has and has not already been posted. If it's more >difficult >> >on the volunteers to do their work, I'm afraid we're going to have a lot >of >> >them throwing in the towel and, in turn, the whole process will suffer >> >because information which would have otherwise been posted will not be >> there >> >to find. >> > >> >Bettye >> > >> > >> >----- Original Message ----- >> >From: "Vonnie" <vonnieann@earthlink.net> >> >To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> >> >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 9:34 PM >> >Subject: Fw: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions >> > >> > >> >> Ditto Norma! Give it some time, it will work out! Instead of going to >> >each >> >> individual board - a person can search for their surname and it get >> >> everything at once! Great Idea! >> >> >> >> Vonnie >> >> vonnieann@earthlink.net http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocharit/chariton.htm >> >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ >> >> "With God All Things Are Possible" >> >> >> >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> >> From: Norma F. Jennings <njennings@lisco.net> >> >> To: RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> >> >> Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 11:51 AM >> >> Subject: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions >> >> >> >> >> >> >I guess we have a whole different idea of volunteerism down here in >> >Louisa >> >> County. Data itself is >> >> >not copyrightable and when >> >> >I and my co-members type up databases, etc. for Rootsweb, it is with >the >> >> idea that OTHER people can >> >> >now have access to the >> >> >same information as we do. Now, when I donate to the Red Cross, the >> >Heart >> >> Association, and other >> >> >charities, I don't expect >> >> >to retain complete ownership of my contribution. I have the >> satisfaction >> >> of knowing that a few >> >> >pennies will help someone >> >> >else even though after working in a hospital, I know that most of that >> >> contribution will go for >> >> >researchers and secretaries >> >> >salaries and will never be seen by the patient. There are certain >> >> administrative costs and >> >> >maintenance fees that are >> >> >necessary for the patient to finally obtain any benefit. I can't boss >> >any >> >> of these projects but hope >> >> >I have helped in some >> >> >way. I absolutely do not understand the proprietary attitude and >> >> possessiveness of people working as >> >> >so called volunteers. >> >> >I am grateful for all the free web space I have been allocated in >order >> >to >> >> help others. >> >> > >> >> >No matter what it is, there are some people that will always fight >> >change. >> >> I tell my husband, when >> >> >he comes home and gripes >> >> >what the younger generation is doing downtown for improvements he >thinks >> >> are unnecessary, to not >> >> >voice his negativism too >> >> >loudly as that is a sure sign of being dubbed "old" when you resist >all >> >new >> >> ideas. Most opposition >> >> >is from ignorance and >> >> >often your worst fears are never realized. Think about it. Are you >a >> >> "volunteer with strings" or a >> >> >"contributor to >> >> >mankind"? >> >> > >> >> >Control is not an issue with me as I know what my real copyright >issues >> >are >> >> and I don't expect to >> >> >copyright every word I >> >> >write as much of it will eventually be deleted or forgotten anyway. >> >> > >> >> >Those of you padding this list with your complaints are part of the >> >> problem. Try a little patience >> >> >and the bugs in the new >> >> >system will be worked out. Anyone experienced with new database >systems >> >> know from the beginning that >> >> >there will be necessary >> >> >enhancements once the system is up and running to identify the problem >> >> areas. Everyone impatiently >> >> >hitting the link >> >> >repeatedly so they can join the "rabble rousing" is causing the rest >of >> >us >> >> to wait longer to access >> >> >the site to claim our >> >> >sites. And it is irritating the heck out of me when you keep asking >the >> >> obvious questions that have >> >> >already been answered.. >> >> > >> >> >I have been more than amply paid for anything that I have contributed >by >> >> the appreciation shown from >> >> >others and the tons of >> >> >info I have found in return. I have used Ancestry in the past to >locate >> >> relatives that otherwise >> >> >defied my efforts. For >> >> >this, I feel my money was well spent to access their site for a few >> >months. >> >> And they still have the >> >> >best resource on the >> >> >market with their "Source" book published a few years back. These >are >> >> good people but they do need >> >> >to charge for a few >> >> >things to stay on the air. >> >> >We all will eventually return to the dust anyway, we can't take it >with >> >us. >> >> >I would rather see it available for future generations than develop >> >> paranoia for fear someone else >> >> >will use my work. >> >> > >> >> >Norma Jennings >> >> > >> >> >______________________________ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >> >> Source for Family History Online. Go to: >> >> http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >> >> >> > >> > >> >> > >

    06/22/2001 05:16:50
    1. Re: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions
    2. B. Warner
    3. Vonnie, I'm not saying "US" volunteers shouldn't be able to search for the information! I think you're totally missing my point! The problem is that when I now search for something that I know has definitely posted, I'm not finding it. For example, I've posted a lot of obits on Jones & Blackwell (my own family line) to the St. Francois County GenConnect Obituaries Board over the past year. Now when I go to St. Francois County Board and click "search this board" and put in the surname "Blackwell" or the surname "Jones ", I get message "zero" found, yet when I manually scan down through the list (which I shouldn't have to do), I can find these names. Why are they not coming up on the search? I've tried the advance search too, but it won't let you limit search to one geographic area so you're getting them from everywhere. Jones is not a name that you want to put in a search window without being able to limit it to a particular area. Also when I try to search by my name as author, I'm not getting them either. I too am very happy to contribute the information, however, I want to be able to easily find it, and I want others to be able to easily find it after it's been submitted. I also want to be able to accurately search to see if it's already been submitted before I submit it. Bettye ----- Original Message ----- From: "Vonnie" <vonnieann@earthlink.net> To: "B. Warner" <bkwofc@i1.net>; <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions > Bettye: > > But why couldn't "US" volunteers search for what we're looking for also? I > think the point is, we all do this from the goodness of our hearts for and > to help other people just like we've been helped. If there is something I > find interesting - I transcribe it - I'll just search on the boards for it > first! I would really hate to see we volunteers "throw in the towel" > because of this change. > > Vonnie > vonnieann@earthlink.net > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > "With God All Things Are Possible" > > > -----Original Message----- > From: B. Warner <bkwofc@i1.net> > To: Vonnie <vonnieann@earthlink.net>; RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com > <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 10:14 PM > Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions > > > >Vonnie, > > > >Yes, maybe it does make things easier for the people who are searching for > >their own surnames. However, don't forget that a large part of that > >information you're finding is coming from we "volunteers" who are going to > >the libraries and history centers in our our area, gathering the > >information, paying out our money for the photocopies, and spending our > free > >time to put it online for you to find. We "volunteers" have posted > >thousands of obits, bios, etc. on folks we're not even related to just > >because we believe that being able to help people discover and preserve > >one's family legacy is a good cause. I agree that the new system (once > >they get the search engines working right) may make it easier for folks who > >are just using the Boards to do their own research. However, it makes it > >more difficult for the folks who are submitting the information to keep > >straight what has and has not already been posted. If it's more difficult > >on the volunteers to do their work, I'm afraid we're going to have a lot of > >them throwing in the towel and, in turn, the whole process will suffer > >because information which would have otherwise been posted will not be > there > >to find. > > > >Bettye > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: "Vonnie" <vonnieann@earthlink.net> > >To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > >Sent: Friday, June 22, 2001 9:34 PM > >Subject: Fw: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions > > > > > >> Ditto Norma! Give it some time, it will work out! Instead of going to > >each > >> individual board - a person can search for their surname and it get > >> everything at once! Great Idea! > >> > >> Vonnie > >> vonnieann@earthlink.net http://www.rootsweb.com/~mocharit/chariton.htm > >> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ > >> "With God All Things Are Possible" > >> > >> > >> -----Original Message----- > >> From: Norma F. Jennings <njennings@lisco.net> > >> To: RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Date: Friday, June 22, 2001 11:51 AM > >> Subject: [RW-Help] Volunteerism contributions > >> > >> > >> >I guess we have a whole different idea of volunteerism down here in > >Louisa > >> County. Data itself is > >> >not copyrightable and when > >> >I and my co-members type up databases, etc. for Rootsweb, it is with the > >> idea that OTHER people can > >> >now have access to the > >> >same information as we do. Now, when I donate to the Red Cross, the > >Heart > >> Association, and other > >> >charities, I don't expect > >> >to retain complete ownership of my contribution. I have the > satisfaction > >> of knowing that a few > >> >pennies will help someone > >> >else even though after working in a hospital, I know that most of that > >> contribution will go for > >> >researchers and secretaries > >> >salaries and will never be seen by the patient. There are certain > >> administrative costs and > >> >maintenance fees that are > >> >necessary for the patient to finally obtain any benefit. I can't boss > >any > >> of these projects but hope > >> >I have helped in some > >> >way. I absolutely do not understand the proprietary attitude and > >> possessiveness of people working as > >> >so called volunteers. > >> >I am grateful for all the free web space I have been allocated in order > >to > >> help others. > >> > > >> >No matter what it is, there are some people that will always fight > >change. > >> I tell my husband, when > >> >he comes home and gripes > >> >what the younger generation is doing downtown for improvements he thinks > >> are unnecessary, to not > >> >voice his negativism too > >> >loudly as that is a sure sign of being dubbed "old" when you resist all > >new > >> ideas. Most opposition > >> >is from ignorance and > >> >often your worst fears are never realized. Think about it. Are you a > >> "volunteer with strings" or a > >> >"contributor to > >> >mankind"? > >> > > >> >Control is not an issue with me as I know what my real copyright issues > >are > >> and I don't expect to > >> >copyright every word I > >> >write as much of it will eventually be deleted or forgotten anyway. > >> > > >> >Those of you padding this list with your complaints are part of the > >> problem. Try a little patience > >> >and the bugs in the new > >> >system will be worked out. Anyone experienced with new database systems > >> know from the beginning that > >> >there will be necessary > >> >enhancements once the system is up and running to identify the problem > >> areas. Everyone impatiently > >> >hitting the link > >> >repeatedly so they can join the "rabble rousing" is causing the rest of > >us > >> to wait longer to access > >> >the site to claim our > >> >sites. And it is irritating the heck out of me when you keep asking the > >> obvious questions that have > >> >already been answered.. > >> > > >> >I have been more than amply paid for anything that I have contributed by > >> the appreciation shown from > >> >others and the tons of > >> >info I have found in return. I have used Ancestry in the past to locate > >> relatives that otherwise > >> >defied my efforts. For > >> >this, I feel my money was well spent to access their site for a few > >months. > >> And they still have the > >> >best resource on the > >> >market with their "Source" book published a few years back. These are > >> good people but they do need > >> >to charge for a few > >> >things to stay on the air. > >> >We all will eventually return to the dust anyway, we can't take it with > >us. > >> >I would rather see it available for future generations than develop > >> paranoia for fear someone else > >> >will use my work. > >> > > >> >Norma Jennings > >> > > >> >______________________________ > >> > >> > >> > >> ============================== > >> Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >> Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >> > > > > > >

    06/22/2001 05:10:54
    1. [RW-Help] Received warning notice!
    2. W. David Samuelsen
    3. I received warning notice from the testers tonight - the urls we have today MAY NOT be there tomorrow. They have NOT stablized the urls yet! Yeek! W. David Samuelsen

    06/22/2001 04:44:47