Valorie, I haven't seen any responses to your question yet, so I'll speak up. I have always done my meta-tags the way your husband says, with commas and spaces. This is the way I was shown and taught in the classes I took at HWG (HTML Writer's Guild). Everything I put on the web has meta-tags, usually 3 or 4 on each separate page. See my signature line at the end of these messages and look at the codes. The list pages are the more recent ones. They also have the better meta-tags IMHO. ;o) There are some web sites that will help you with meta-tags also, if I remember right. Have you tried a search on the web yet? I can try a search if you want. HTH Lynn V. ----- Original Message ----- : I've been making some pages for my mail lists, so that (hopefully) some : more newbies will find us when they get their new computers. I heard : that Tim's meta-tag keywords in the list indexes : (http://lists.rootsweb.com) were not getting picked up by the search : engines, because they are in this form (no punctuation, just spaces): :<---Snip--> : I spoke with my husband, who is a pretty darn good site-builder, and HE : says to do them like this (separated by commas AND spaces): : : FREEPAGES-ADVANCED, RootsWeb, Support, genealogy, geneology, : genealogical, family history, email, mail, mailing list, lists, : maillist, maillists, discussion group, groups, bulletin board, boards, : forum, forums : : I would like these pages to have the BEST possible chance of being : spidered and indexed, so I want the meta-tags correct. : : Any advice? : : Valorie : ---- User of The Master Genealogist http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~lynn5/ genealogy http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~veitchl/roots/ list page

Val asked about META tags in her documents. I tend to refer to the authorities when these type of questions come up. So, I went to W3C (World-Wide Web Consortium at w3c.org) to see what their site says. It doesn't explicitly describe how to code multiple keywords in one content block except to say that they must be comma-separated values. In fact, two different examples are coded differently. One has commas and spaces and the other has commas only. Both WDVL (Web Developer's Virtual Library at wdvl.com) and Search Engine Watch (searchenginewatch.com) show examples with comma and spaces, though neither one comes right out and says that the spaces are required. I didn't find anything on the couple of search sites that I looked at (AltaVista and Google) which told me whether the spaces are required. So -- to be safe, use comma followed by a space. But be *sure* to use commas since the specification says it's required or else the words are considered a phrase. Regards, Elsi __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Send your FREE holiday greetings online! http://greetings.yahoo.com

Hi, Is it just me or is everyone being inundated with posts to their lists from Korea, Japan, or somewhere in the far East? Sometimes, I get 5, a day. They are in Korean and they are spam because one, had photos of merchandise (one was a car dealer I think) and an online catalog. I can and have stopped some of them, by using the filter on the lists but, I still get them personally as listowner, then when I stop one, more pop up. What is going on? Does anyone know? How did I get on their addressee list? Here is a sample of, the latest, from: "³ªÁÖ¿­" <skaql4@lycos.co.kr> ¾È³çÇϼ¼¿ä ¸ÕÀú Çã¶ô¾øÀÌ ¸ÞÀϵå·Á Á˼ÛÇÕ´Ï´Ù.. ºÒÇÊ¿äÇϽźеéÀº »èÁ¦Çϼ¼¿ä ÃÖ½ÅCDÀ» Àú·ÅÇÑ°¡°Ý¿¡ ÆǸÅÇÕ´Ï´Ù ÃֽŰÔÀÓ.±×·¡ÇÈ.¸ÖƼ¹Ìµð¾î.ijµå.±³À°¿ë.À¯Æ¿¸®Æ¼.¼ºÀÎVCD.. µîµî ¿©·¯ºÐµéÀÌ ÇÊ¿ä·ÎÇϽô ½ÃµðÀ» ´Ù·®º¸À¯ÇÏ°í ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù ½Å¿ëÀº ¹°·Ð 100ÇÁ·Î ¹ÏÀ¸¼Åµµ µË´Ï´Ù ÷ºÎµÈ È­ÀÏ(cd ¸ñ·Ï. zip)À» ´Ù¿î¹ÞÀ¸½ÅÈÄ¿¡ µð½ºÅ©¿¡ ÀúÀåÇϽÅÈÄ ¾ÐÃàÀ»Ç®°í »ìÆ캸½Ê½Ã¿ä. ¹Ï°í °Å·¡ÇÏ½Ã¸é ¸¸Á·ÇϽǰ̴ϴ٠====== º¸³Ê½ºCDµµ µå¸³´Ï´Ù =====

spams - they're Korean ***SEX*** porno spams. One of them had a portion in English. David sue wrote: > > Hi, > Is it just me or is everyone being inundated with posts to their lists > from Korea, Japan, or somewhere in the far East? > Sometimes, I get 5, a day. > They are in Korean and they are spam because one, had photos of > merchandise (one was a car dealer I think) and an online catalog. > I can and have stopped some of them, by using the filter on the lists > but, I still get them personally as listowner, then when I stop one, > more pop up. What is going on? Does anyone know? How did I get on their > addressee list? > Here is a sample of, the latest, from: > "³ªÁÖ¿­" <skaql4@lycos.co.kr> > ¾È³çÇϼ¼¿ä > ¸ÕÀú Çã¶ô¾øÀÌ ¸ÞÀϵå·Á Á˼ÛÇÕ´Ï´Ù.. ºÒÇÊ¿äÇϽźеéÀº »èÁ¦Çϼ¼¿ä > ÃÖ½ÅCDÀ» Àú·ÅÇÑ°¡°Ý¿¡ ÆǸÅÇÕ´Ï´Ù > ÃֽŰÔÀÓ.±×·¡ÇÈ.¸ÖƼ¹Ìµð¾î.ijµå.±³À°¿ë.À¯Æ¿¸®Æ¼.¼ºÀÎVCD.. µîµî > ¿©·¯ºÐµéÀÌ ÇÊ¿ä·ÎÇϽô ½ÃµðÀ» ´Ù·®º¸À¯ÇÏ°í ÀÖ½À´Ï´Ù > ½Å¿ëÀº ¹°·Ð 100ÇÁ·Î ¹ÏÀ¸¼Åµµ µË´Ï´Ù > ÷ºÎµÈ È­ÀÏ(cd ¸ñ·Ï. zip)À» ´Ù¿î¹ÞÀ¸½ÅÈÄ¿¡ µð½ºÅ©¿¡ ÀúÀåÇϽÅÈÄ > ¾ÐÃàÀ»Ç®°í »ìÆ캸½Ê½Ã¿ä. > ¹Ï°í °Å·¡ÇÏ½Ã¸é ¸¸Á·ÇϽǰ̴ϴ٠> ====== º¸³Ê½ºCDµµ µå¸³´Ï´Ù ===== > > ============================== > Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp

I've been making some pages for my mail lists, so that (hopefully) some more newbies will find us when they get their new computers. I heard that Tim's meta-tag keywords in the list indexes (http://lists.rootsweb.com) were not getting picked up by the search engines, because they are in this form (no punctuation, just spaces): FREEPAGES-ADVANCED RootsWeb Support genealogy geneology genealogical family history email mail mailing list lists maillist maillists discussion group groups bulletin board boards forum forums (for the Freepages-Advanced list). I was told instead that I needed to have them like this (separated only by commas, no spaces: FREEPAGES-ADVANCED,RootsWeb,Support,genealogy,geneology,genealogical family history,email,mail,mailing list,lists,maillist,maillists,discussion group,groups,bulletin board,boards,forum,forums I spoke with my husband, who is a pretty darn good site-builder, and HE says to do them like this (separated by commas AND spaces): FREEPAGES-ADVANCED, RootsWeb, Support, genealogy, geneology, genealogical, family history, email, mail, mailing list, lists, maillist, maillists, discussion group, groups, bulletin board, boards, forum, forums I would like these pages to have the BEST possible chance of being spidered and indexed, so I want the meta-tags correct. Any advice? Valorie

In a message dated 12/8/01 2:33:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, ewandert@home.com writes: > Can the Worldconnect feature adding "Post-Im" notes to a particular > family be utilized on other Rootsweb sites? > Hi, Gene- Post-em Notes ARE available in some other areas of RootsWeb. For instance, you can add a Post-em to an SSDI entry, on User-contributed Databases, and on Vital Records that are still available online at RootsWeb. Wherever you see the link that says Add Post-em they are available. They are not available on individually maintained Web sites though--only where you see the link to add a note. Also of interest--Ancestry has recently instituted a similar feature for its databases called User Comments. Joan

Can the Worldconnect feature adding "Post-Im" notes to a particular family be utilized on other Rootsweb sites? Gene Andert -- Kosciusko Co, IN USGenWeb Coordinator http://www.rootsweb.com/~inkosciu/ Listowner: INKOSCIU-L@rootsweb.com email: ewandert@home.com

Ditto re viruses received. Ditto hope all involved on lists will keep virus scanning up to date. Arlene Jennings

Arlene Jennings wrote: > Ditto re viruses received. Ditto hope all involved on lists will keep virus > scanning up to date. > > Arlene Jennings We've been asking people on our State's mailing lists to notify the list admin privately with the information that includes the sender's email address. The person who has the virus is then unsubbed from the list and notified that they are sending the virus. That has helped tremendously, and the person who received the virus message is not subjected to more of them by posting to the list again. I haven't received any yet today, but received a lot earlier in the week. To contact the list owner for any Rootsweb mailing list, send a message to <LISTNAME-admin@rootsweb.com> and substitute the name of the list where it says LISTNAME. Connie

Just clicking it to delete it will give it to you too. Beware Dan ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlene Jennings <arlenej@attglobal.net> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, November 30, 2001 12:29 PM Subject: [RW-Help] Viruses going around > Ditto re viruses received. Ditto hope all involved on lists will keep virus > scanning up to date. > > Arlene Jennings > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237

Thanks to all who have notified me that a msg had been received from me which was infected with a virus. You were all quite correct but the virus which was received from an unknown source extracted your address (and others not in my address book) and sent various msg to you for which I do apologize. This virus does not require the receiver to open any attachment, only that you read the msg itself. I understand that it will not attack your computer if the msg is just previewed. A fix for this virus was just added to the Symantec website. It cleaned my computer in a matter of a few minutes and a rerun indicated that I was virus free. Additional info can be found at http://www.symantec.com/downloads/ Symantec Security Response is currently tracking two threats. Both threats have a rating of Category 4 Severe). W32.Badtrans.B@mm is a MAPI worm that emails itself out as one of several different filenames. W32.Aliz.Worm is an SMTP mass mailer worm that can be executed just by reading or reviewing the file. Jack Nida ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Taylor" <SGTaylor1@att.net> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2001 10:36 AM Subject: [RW-Help] Attention Jack Nida! > Jack Nida, > > I have received 2 Badtrans worm infected E-mails from your today. Both of > them hung up my E-mail program resulting in me having to go on-line to my > mail account on AT&T and manually deleting the messages. Both of them > showed sender as "Jack Nida" Both of them had the Badtrans attached files. > Both of them were 41 KB is size and both of them carried the subject of: > > Re: Re: [RW-Help] Virus on RW Lists? > > With this subject I know you are on this list. You have a message I posted > on this list yesterday saved in your IN box. The worm found my address in > that message. There is no way I could see your actual E-mail address on the > mail server of AT&T. Sooooo the only way I can notify you that you have > this "worm" is thru the mail list. Here is the message I'm sending to the > senders of over 100 "worm" infected E-mail I've received this past week: > > ----------------------------- boiler plate ------------------------- > STOP using your E-mail program!!! I have received at least one E-mail from > you today with the bad virus/worm - W32.badtrans.b - in an attached file. > Norton Anti-Virus quickly recognized the virus and dealt to it. > > Pleaseeeeee, do not use your E-mail program again until you have tended to > this "worm." After all the warnings in newsgroups, mail lists and even in > the National news, you should have gotten and implemented an up-to-date > anti-virus program by now. Get busy! > > http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.badtrans.b@mm.html > ============================================================== > > Sorry list, but this is the only way I could get a message to him. I > believe I might start using this method of notifying someone if I continue > to get infected E-mails from them after privately sending them a notice. > > --- Susan > SGTAYLOR1@att.net > My Genealogy Website - sgt > http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/ > ----------------------------------------------- > USGW Mansfield, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/mansfield.html > USGW New London, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/newlondon.html > USGW Norwich, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/norwich.html > USGW Windham, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/windham.html > USGW Coordinator Plymouth Co., MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/ > USGW Plymouth, MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~macplymo/ > ********************************************************* > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237 >

At 08:14 PM 11/29/2001 -0800, Steven R. Everitt wrote: >Hi, > >I can get everything to work very well but I would like to get rid of this >line > >-------------------------------------------------- > >that shows up in the end result. It's obviously a separator between entries >but I would like to lose it if possible. Nope - sorry. The script creates it. There's no option to omit it. Regards, Elsi

I received a Badtrans worm infected E-mail from you this evening. It hung up my E-mail program resulting in me having to go on-line to my mail account on AT&T and manually delete the message. It showed sender as "Robert Fuller" and had a Badtrans attached file. It was 41 KB is size and carried the subject of: Re: [RW-Help] Attention Jack N.... With this subject I know you are on this list for I posted a message with this subject today. You have this message I posted saved in your IN box where the worm found my address. There is no way I could see your actual E-mail address on the mail server of AT&T. Sooooo the only way I can notify you that you have this "worm" is thru the mail list. Here is the message I'm sending to the senders of over 100 "worm" (received 6 today) infected E-mail I've received this past week: ----------------------------- boiler plate ------------------------- STOP using your E-mail program!!! I have received at least one E-mail from you today with the bad virus/worm - W32.badtrans.b - in an attached file. Norton Anti-Virus quickly recognized the virus and dealt to it. Pleaseeeeee, do not use your E-mail program again until you have tended to this "worm." After all the warnings in newsgroups, mail lists and even in the National news, you should have gotten and implemented an up-to-date anti-virus program by now. Get busy! http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.badtrans.b@mm.html ============================================================== --- Susan

Hi, I can get everything to work very well but I would like to get rid of this line -------------------------------------------------- that shows up in the end result. It's obviously a separator between entries but I would like to lose it if possible. Regards Steven R. Everitt sreveritt@sno.net Surname Roundup http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surnamru/ Guild of One Name Studies Member 3080 http://www.one-name.org/index.html Boniface One Name Study boniface@one-name.org Boniface Internet Group http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~surnamru/steve/bonifaceindex.html

Jack Nida, I have received 2 Badtrans worm infected E-mails from your today. Both of them hung up my E-mail program resulting in me having to go on-line to my mail account on AT&T and manually deleting the messages. Both of them showed sender as "Jack Nida" Both of them had the Badtrans attached files. Both of them were 41 KB is size and both of them carried the subject of: Re: Re: [RW-Help] Virus on RW Lists? With this subject I know you are on this list. You have a message I posted on this list yesterday saved in your IN box. The worm found my address in that message. There is no way I could see your actual E-mail address on the mail server of AT&T. Sooooo the only way I can notify you that you have this "worm" is thru the mail list. Here is the message I'm sending to the senders of over 100 "worm" infected E-mail I've received this past week: ----------------------------- boiler plate ------------------------- STOP using your E-mail program!!! I have received at least one E-mail from you today with the bad virus/worm - W32.badtrans.b - in an attached file. Norton Anti-Virus quickly recognized the virus and dealt to it. Pleaseeeeee, do not use your E-mail program again until you have tended to this "worm." After all the warnings in newsgroups, mail lists and even in the National news, you should have gotten and implemented an up-to-date anti-virus program by now. Get busy! http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/w32.badtrans.b@mm.html ============================================================== Sorry list, but this is the only way I could get a message to him. I believe I might start using this method of notifying someone if I continue to get infected E-mails from them after privately sending them a notice. --- Susan SGTAYLOR1@att.net My Genealogy Website - sgt http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/ ----------------------------------------------- USGW Mansfield, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/mansfield.html USGW New London, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/newlondon.html USGW Norwich, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/norwich.html USGW Windham, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/windham.html USGW Coordinator Plymouth Co., MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/ USGW Plymouth, MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~macplymo/ *********************************************************

An addendum to Susan Taylor's message - In Netscape Messenger, go to View Show and make sure Message is unchecked. It's a little inconvenient, because you have to double click a message to get it to open, but that way you won't even open a suspicious email. Once deleted don't forget to empty your trash! Sandy > Many people are having trouble checking the headers of > their E-mail without actually clicking and activating the E-mail. Here are > a few tips: > Sandy Redmond State Coordinator, MIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~migenweb Calhoun County MIGenWeb http://www.rootsweb.com/~micalhou

Thanks to everyone for replies to my query. I agree with Ron, virus detectors do not catch a new virus right off. Believe I received a couple of blank messages before Norton starting catching it and I had just updated that morning. But I never opened any attachments to "let it loose". I use Eudora mail, so haven't had as many as those with Outlook, relatively few, in fact. Norton just caught one this morning. Age old deal with List subscribers, they always think that the List is spreading the virus, so just wanted to confirm that wasn't the case. Mary Ann At 09:51 AM 11/28/2001 +0000, ron fuller wrote: >At 01:37 PM 11/28/2001 +0000, tsingleton@iclub.org wrote: > >As coordinator of Adams and Randolph Co. in Indiana, I've never seen a >virus or > >worm transmitted through the two county lists I manage in the 5 years I've >been > >involved. If you get a message that appears to come from a Rootsweb list, >you > >can tell by checking the header that it actually came from an infected > >individual directly, not through the list, even though the list may be > >mentioned in the subject line. > > > >I use a well-known virus program to check both my incoming and outgoing > mail > >and have never been bitten by a virus or worm. It's the only way to be safe. > > > > > >even though you use a major virus program you could be susceptible. >badtrans.b >came out and by the time the virus people had fixes for it, it had spread >throughout >the net. i know someone who updates their virus profiles daily and got it. > anti-virus >programs are _reactive_ meaning they fix something that has already been >broken. they >still can't create a scan for viruses that have yet to appear. the best >safety program >is to configure whatever email program you use to turn off auto-open and >auto-preview. >these are the biggest problems. the other is to suspicious of any >unexpected attachments. >i don't care if their from your mother or your best friend - if you don't >expect it, it >might not have been send deliberately. > >on the other issue - i don't believe this list can transmit attachments so >i don't >believe it can be used to transmit viruses. > > > > >rfuller@freeway.net ae137@detroit.freenet.org >if you and the universe are going in the same direction >you will find that the whole world conspires for your >benefit. > > >============================== >Search over 1 Billion names at Ancestry.com! >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist1.asp --------------------------------------------------- Mary Ann Kaylor MY FAMILY GENEALOGY http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~makaylor/index.html CONVERSE CONNECTIONS http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~converse/index.html CONVERSE MAIL LIST Adminstrator TEDROW MAIL LIST Administrator KAYLOR MAIL LIST - To subscribe, please review KAYLOR MAIL LIST GUIDELINES: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~zimzip/kaylor/maillist/

yep same here it is really slowing down my email but Norton is catching them and I tell it to delete the attachment before it downloads to my computer Belle ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Taylor" <SGTaylor1@att.net> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, November 28, 2001 9:32 AM Subject: Re: [RW-Help] Virus on RW Lists? > I too have gotten probably 100 in the past 3 to 4 days. Some are from > subscribers on mail lists - not from the mail list, some from USGenWeb > look-up requesters that I answered going as far back as 4 years, and others > from who knows. All these folks have kept E-mail messages from me in their > mail programs. The > "worm" is going through their IN boxes and then sending itself out to > E-mail addresses it finds in messages. Nowwww I have tried to send notices > to those I've received the worm from but many are disregarding my note and > are continuing to use their E-mail programs and not up-dating their virus > scanners, etc.... After about the 4th infected E-mail message from them, > I'm contacting their ISP. Reputable ISPs will cancel their service and they > will have a hard time getting another account. I know this is a drastic > action but these people are acting irresponsible for not having an > up-to-date virus scanner on board and disregarding the many notices they > have seen on the mail lists and received personally. This behavior is right > up there with vandalism. > > Anyways the subjects of these worm infected E-mails may have a mail list > insert with the subject of a posting I made or may have only Re: None of > them are coming through the mail lists on RootsWeb. How do I know? I have > checked the headers of all of these E-mails. If the E-mail came from a mail > list it would carry headers like: > > To: MAESSEX-L@rootsweb.com > Resent-From: MAESSEX-L@rootsweb.com > X-Mailing-List: <MAESSEX-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/3301 > X-Loop: MAESSEX-L@rootsweb.com > > None of them did. Many people are having trouble checking the headers of > their E-mail without actually clicking and activating the E-mail. Here are > a few tips: > > TO check headers without opening mail: > 1. Eudora E-mail program: It has an actual E-mail IN box file called > IN.MBX. Open this file in a text editor like NotePad - though I prefer > Notepad+ that puts to shame the notepad that comes with Windows. Do a Find > search once the file is open in the text editor for the suspected message > and look at all the headers. > > I can't guarantee the following will not trigger a suspected E-mail on > these MS E-mail programs but do know they will not open the message: <do > not left click any of the suspected E-mail!!!> > > 2. MS Outlook Express: ***Right*** click - not left click - the listed > message in the IN box. On the drop down menu select "Properties" and then > select the "Detail" tab. You will see the Internet Headers. I highly > recommend ***not*** having a preview window. I have heard that a preview > window may??? activate some viruses without even opening the message. > Nowwww I can not swear to this for have just heard it mentioned on some MS > newsgroups. To get rid of the Preview window: View > Layout > deselect > "Preview Pane." > > 3. MS Outlook: ***Right*** click - not left click - the listed message in > the Inbox. On the drop down menu select "Options" You will see the Internet > Headers at the bottom of this window. Again I don't recommend having the > Preview window. To get rid of the Preview window: View > deselect "Preview > Pane" and "Auto Preview." > > 4. Netscape Messenger: Not sure how to do it in this program without > actually clicking on the message. I know you can see alllll the headers and > the message coding by highlighting the message and then selecting on the > menu bar: View > Page source. Also if you click the message the headers > will show in the preview screen if you have View > Headers > ALL selected. > Now I don't know if the Preview window in Netscape can be as dangerous as > the ones reported in the MS Outlook mail programs may be???? > > My E-mail Program of choice is Eudora and browser of choice is Netscape; > however, do have IE and all the MS Outlook E-mail programs on-board. > > > At 08:51 AM 11/28/01 +0000, singhals wrote: > >At 10:48 PM 11/27/2001 EST, JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > > >In a message dated 11/27/01 10:00:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, > > >kaylorma@one-eleven.net writes: > > > > > >> Is it possible for a virus to be passed through RW Mailing > > Lists? Seems I > > >> remember that wasn't possible, but here it pops up again. I am > > referring > > >> to the new one going around,..W32-Badtrans. Seems subscribers on the > > >Lists > > >> think so and it is a subject of conversation on a couple of them. Would > > >> like a professional opinion so I can pass it on. > > >> > > >Mary Ann- > > > > > >No. The virus is replying to UNANSWERED mail on the infected person's > > >computer. That can include a LOT of list mail they may have received and > > >saved--but the virus is NOT coming from the RootsWeb lists. I received one > > >virus attachment yesterday in reply to a message I posted on a list I > > >unsubbed from over 2 years ago. > > > > > >I've gotten a potload of 'em this past week too -- most have a SUBJ: that's > >an RW mail-list, but they're *all* private e-mail, not list-mail. > > > >Cheryl > >*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* > >Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) > >

At 01:37 PM 11/28/2001 +0000, tsingleton@iclub.org wrote: >As coordinator of Adams and Randolph Co. in Indiana, I've never seen a virus or >worm transmitted through the two county lists I manage in the 5 years I've been >involved. If you get a message that appears to come from a Rootsweb list, you >can tell by checking the header that it actually came from an infected >individual directly, not through the list, even though the list may be >mentioned in the subject line. > >I use a well-known virus program to check both my incoming and outgoing mail >and have never been bitten by a virus or worm. It's the only way to be safe. > > even though you use a major virus program you could be susceptible. badtrans.b came out and by the time the virus people had fixes for it, it had spread throughout the net. i know someone who updates their virus profiles daily and got it. anti-virus programs are _reactive_ meaning they fix something that has already been broken. they still can't create a scan for viruses that have yet to appear. the best safety program is to configure whatever email program you use to turn off auto-open and auto-preview. these are the biggest problems. the other is to suspicious of any unexpected attachments. i don't care if their from your mother or your best friend - if you don't expect it, it might not have been send deliberately. on the other issue - i don't believe this list can transmit attachments so i don't believe it can be used to transmit viruses. rfuller@freeway.net ae137@detroit.freenet.org if you and the universe are going in the same direction you will find that the whole world conspires for your benefit.

I too have gotten probably 100 in the past 3 to 4 days. Some are from subscribers on mail lists - not from the mail list, some from USGenWeb look-up requesters that I answered going as far back as 4 years, and others from who knows. All these folks have kept E-mail messages from me in their mail programs. The "worm" is going through their IN boxes and then sending itself out to E-mail addresses it finds in messages. Nowwww I have tried to send notices to those I've received the worm from but many are disregarding my note and are continuing to use their E-mail programs and not up-dating their virus scanners, etc.... After about the 4th infected E-mail message from them, I'm contacting their ISP. Reputable ISPs will cancel their service and they will have a hard time getting another account. I know this is a drastic action but these people are acting irresponsible for not having an up-to-date virus scanner on board and disregarding the many notices they have seen on the mail lists and received personally. This behavior is right up there with vandalism. Anyways the subjects of these worm infected E-mails may have a mail list insert with the subject of a posting I made or may have only Re: None of them are coming through the mail lists on RootsWeb. How do I know? I have checked the headers of all of these E-mails. If the E-mail came from a mail list it would carry headers like: To: MAESSEX-L@rootsweb.com Resent-From: MAESSEX-L@rootsweb.com X-Mailing-List: <MAESSEX-L@rootsweb.com> archive/latest/3301 X-Loop: MAESSEX-L@rootsweb.com None of them did. Many people are having trouble checking the headers of their E-mail without actually clicking and activating the E-mail. Here are a few tips: TO check headers without opening mail: 1. Eudora E-mail program: It has an actual E-mail IN box file called IN.MBX. Open this file in a text editor like NotePad - though I prefer Notepad+ that puts to shame the notepad that comes with Windows. Do a Find search once the file is open in the text editor for the suspected message and look at all the headers. I can't guarantee the following will not trigger a suspected E-mail on these MS E-mail programs but do know they will not open the message: <do not left click any of the suspected E-mail!!!> 2. MS Outlook Express: ***Right*** click - not left click - the listed message in the IN box. On the drop down menu select "Properties" and then select the "Detail" tab. You will see the Internet Headers. I highly recommend ***not*** having a preview window. I have heard that a preview window may??? activate some viruses without even opening the message. Nowwww I can not swear to this for have just heard it mentioned on some MS newsgroups. To get rid of the Preview window: View > Layout > deselect "Preview Pane." 3. MS Outlook: ***Right*** click - not left click - the listed message in the Inbox. On the drop down menu select "Options" You will see the Internet Headers at the bottom of this window. Again I don't recommend having the Preview window. To get rid of the Preview window: View > deselect "Preview Pane" and "Auto Preview." 4. Netscape Messenger: Not sure how to do it in this program without actually clicking on the message. I know you can see alllll the headers and the message coding by highlighting the message and then selecting on the menu bar: View > Page source. Also if you click the message the headers will show in the preview screen if you have View > Headers > ALL selected. Now I don't know if the Preview window in Netscape can be as dangerous as the ones reported in the MS Outlook mail programs may be???? My E-mail Program of choice is Eudora and browser of choice is Netscape; however, do have IE and all the MS Outlook E-mail programs on-board. At 08:51 AM 11/28/01 +0000, singhals wrote: >At 10:48 PM 11/27/2001 EST, JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > >In a message dated 11/27/01 10:00:17 PM Eastern Standard Time, > >kaylorma@one-eleven.net writes: > > > >> Is it possible for a virus to be passed through RW Mailing > Lists? Seems I > >> remember that wasn't possible, but here it pops up again. I am > referring > >> to the new one going around,..W32-Badtrans. Seems subscribers on the > >Lists > >> think so and it is a subject of conversation on a couple of them. Would > >> like a professional opinion so I can pass it on. > >> > >Mary Ann- > > > >No. The virus is replying to UNANSWERED mail on the infected person's > >computer. That can include a LOT of list mail they may have received and > >saved--but the virus is NOT coming from the RootsWeb lists. I received one > >virus attachment yesterday in reply to a message I posted on a list I > >unsubbed from over 2 years ago. > > >I've gotten a potload of 'em this past week too -- most have a SUBJ: that's >an RW mail-list, but they're *all* private e-mail, not list-mail. > >Cheryl >*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* >Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) > >http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ >http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ >http://www.capaccess.org/com/troop763/ >http://www.fortunecity.com/millennium/blyton/772/ (Bottony Cross DAR) >http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ >http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC) > > > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=702&sourceid=1237