At 07:59 AM 12/20/2001 -0500, Dennis Ahern wrote: > >Ray Brown <ray.brown@earthling.net> alerted us that: > >>When you create a table in FrontPage 2000, and you don't specify the >>Horizontal alignment for the cells in the table, i.e. you leave it as >>"Default", FrontPage and IE 5 will show it to you as being left aligned, >>by default. In IE6, however, the default is now "center"; if you want it >>left aligned, you must go in and change it. I have also read that if you > >If I had to go into every cell of every table on every one of my websites >and add the align="left" code, I would be doing that 24 hours a day, seven >days a week, for the next year. The curses I would mutter throughout that >time would surely make Bill Gates break out in hives, and rightly so. The >good news is, I think there is a way of simplifying the task of solving >this problem. > >Some time ago, in order to make my HTML files smaller, and hence load >faster, I adopted some cascading style sheet tricks. The code you want to >impose throughout a given HTML file, is placed within the <HEAD></HEAD> >tags, as shown in this example: > ><HEAD><TITLE>The Ahern Family - Obituaries</TITLE> ><META Name="description" Content="The Ahern Family Genealogy"> ><META Name="keywords" Content="Irish genealogy, Irish surnames, obituary, >Ahern, Ahearn, Ohern, Ohearn, O'hern, O'hearn, O'Ahern, O'Ahearn, Aherne"> ><STYLE TYPE="text/css"> ><!-- >table { padding: 2 2; } >td { background-color: FFFCFO } >td { background-image: url(bg_beige.gif) } >--> ></STYLE> ></HEAD> An alternative -- particularly if you'd like to be able to change one file and have it affect all your pages -- is to put the CSS code in a separate file. You then put this in the <.head> section of your page: <.link rel=stylesheet href="alabama-style.css" type="text/css"> Regards, Elsi
In a message dated 12/20/01 8:03:34 AM Eastern Standard Time, ahern@world.std.com writes: > And yes, the comment tags "<!--" and "-->" are required just as you see > them. Just to prevent anyone from coming back with "I didn't use the comment tags, but it all seemed to work just fine", I'd like to add that the purpose of the comment tags is to make the style rules invisible to older browsers. Otherwise, an older browser that didn't understand the STYLE tag might actually display the text inside of them. If you omit the comment tags, everything will still work fine in newer browsers. Drew Smith FSGS Webmaster
>To learn more about using Cascading Style Sheets in your HTML, go to >http://www.google.com and enter CSS in the search. For those who would prefer a more in-depth source to peruse offline, I would recommend _Cascading Style Sheets: The Definitive Guide_ by Eric Meyer, a typical excellent book from O'Reilly. It describes how all the CSS features are supposed to work, and gives real- world examples of how the various browsers implement them. An appendix cross references each feature with support on PC/Mac versions of IE, Netscape and IIRC Opera. It is clearly written in a way you can understand even after you've been up way too many times with a baby. :-) Bob Sullivan scp_sulli@sals.edu Schenectady County Public Library (NY) http://www.scpl.org Schenectady Digital History Archive http://www.schenectadyhistory.org
Ray Brown <ray.brown@earthling.net> alerted us that: >When you create a table in FrontPage 2000, and you don't specify the >Horizontal alignment for the cells in the table, i.e. you leave it as >"Default", FrontPage and IE 5 will show it to you as being left aligned, >by default. In IE6, however, the default is now "center"; if you want it >left aligned, you must go in and change it. I have also read that if you If I had to go into every cell of every table on every one of my websites and add the align="left" code, I would be doing that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, for the next year. The curses I would mutter throughout that time would surely make Bill Gates break out in hives, and rightly so. The good news is, I think there is a way of simplifying the task of solving this problem. Some time ago, in order to make my HTML files smaller, and hence load faster, I adopted some cascading style sheet tricks. The code you want to impose throughout a given HTML file, is placed within the <HEAD></HEAD> tags, as shown in this example: <HEAD><TITLE>The Ahern Family - Obituaries</TITLE> <META Name="description" Content="The Ahern Family Genealogy"> <META Name="keywords" Content="Irish genealogy, Irish surnames, obituary, Ahern, Ahearn, Ohern, Ohearn, O'hern, O'hearn, O'Ahern, O'Ahearn, Aherne"> <STYLE TYPE="text/css"> <!-- table { padding: 2 2; } td { background-color: FFFCFO } td { background-image: url(bg_beige.gif) } --> </STYLE> </HEAD> And yes, the comment tags "<!--" and "-->" are required just as you see them. I think the correct addition to solve this problem would be to add a line that said "td { text-align: left }" unless, of course, you have some table cells you want centered, in which case, I believe you could override the CSS instruction with a local align="center". Note also that this CSS example only applies to TD and not to TH. Table heads have always been centered by default. In fact, I always like the heading of my first column to be flush left and have made it so by using align="left". To learn more about using Cascading Style Sheets in your HTML, go to http://www.google.com and enter CSS in the search. -dja
Seems to me that I recall making a statement some time ago about the fact that I wasnt going to forward any more virus messages. Please forgive me for not checking this out before bothering all of you, but the sulfnbk.exe virus message that I just sent to you is a HOAX. Do not delete the file, and please do not forward the message to anyone else. If you want more information about the hoax, you can find it at: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/sulfnbk.exe.warning.html If I didnt catch you before you deleted the file, this page at Microsoft contains information on what the sulfnbk.exe file REALLY does, and how you can restore it to its rightful place in your system: http://support.microsoft.com/directory/article.asp?ID=KB;EN-US;Q301316 Okay, I SWEAR I will never forward any more messages about mysterious viruses. Ever. Please forgive my foolishness; its late, and I wasnt thinking straight. Peace, Amy Keaton
I received this email from a friend I trust, and followed the instructions. I did find the file and delete it; although I checked its properties first and found that the file had not been modified since the date my computer was initially started up at the factory...very weird; I'm not sure what all this means...but maybe, if I'm lucky, this is the weirdo virus that has made my life a living heck for the last two years. I suggest you check it out. Sincerely, Amy Keaton > > > This is a serious e-mail. I received an e-mail from a friend this > > > > morning:of a virus that was passed on to him. His PC was infected > > > > > > > > and since I was in his address book it had probably been spread to >my > > > >computer. > > > > > > > > I followed the instructions and located the virus. By following the > > > >instructions, I was able to > > > > > > > > delete the virus. The bad news is that you probably have it, as >you > > > >are in MY address book! > > > > > > > > More bad news! is that my anti-virus, recently updated, virus >program > > > >did not detect this virus. > > > > > > > > This virus lies dormant for 14 days and then kills your hard drive. > > > > > > > > Here is what to do. If you follow the instructions and then see >that > > > >you have the virus, > > > > you need to send a similar e-mail to everyone in your address book. > > > > > > > > Remove the virus by following these steps: > > > > > > > > 1. Go to "Start." Then to "Find" or "Search" > > > > (depending on your computer.) > > > > 2. In the "Search for files or folders" type > > > > sulfnbk.exe -- this is the name of the virus. > > > > 3. In the "Look in" section, make sure you are > > > > searching Drive C. > > > > 4. Hit "Search" or "Find." > > > > 5. If your search finds this file, it will be an ug! ly > > > > blackish icon that will have the name sulfnbk.exe. > > > > DO NOT OPEN IT! If it does not show up on your > > > > first "Search," try a "New Search." > > > > 6. Right click on the file -- go down to "Delete" and > > > > left click. > > > > 7. You will be asked if you want to send the file to > > > > the Recycling Bin--say "Yes." > > > > 8. Go to your Desktop (where all your icons are) and > > > > right click on the Recycle Bin and either manually delete > > > > the sulfnbk.exe program or empty the entire bin. > > > > 9. If you found the virus on your system, send this > > > > or a similar e-mail to all in your address book > > > > because this is how it is transferred.
Thanks to everyone for the assistance in uploading my webpage. I appreciate any help I can get! One more thing - How do I add a link to Rootsweb on my homepage? I'm supposed to do that and I'd love to but I don't have the foggiest idea how to go about it. Sharen
The following came from the State of CT about problems with the new IE6 that is shiping on new computers. The link below has screen shots of the same table in IE5.5 and IE6. Some of you may need to adjust your tables to be seen the way you want them in all versions of IE. Cheers Ray From: "Kathleen Anderson" IE 6, in its final version, has been released and is now preinstalled on new computers. We've discovered that a big difference (from IE5) in the way table cell content is displayed - you may want to check out your pages to see if this difference impacts you. When you create a table in FrontPage 2000, and you don't specify the Horizontal alignment for the cells in the table, i.e. you leave it as "Default", FrontPage and IE 5 will show it to you as being left aligned, by default. In IE6, however, the default is now "center"; if you want it left aligned, you must go in and change it. I have also read that if you don't specify the cell alignment, the cells will inherit the horizontal alignment from the table properties. I put up a page: http://www.cmac.state.ct.us/access/examples/iedifferences.html where you can see that we discovered this to be true on the Comptroller's Home Page (we have since fixed it). -- CT AHGP http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctahgp/ Litchfield County CT AHGP website http://www.rootsweb.com/~ctlitch2/ Ray Brown's Place for New England Genealogy http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~rbrown/ New England History http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyne/neh/ US History Web page http://www.rootsweb.com/~nyne/us-history/ US History by Hawthorne http://freepages.books.rootsweb.com/~rbrown/us/ CT Photo Gallery http://www.state.ct.us/scripts/photo.asp
** Reply to message from RootsWeb-Help-D-request@rootsweb.com on Wed, 19 Dec 2001 09:01:20 -0700 > Need help please! I am trying to upload my first website by AOL FTP, it is > in 4 folders on a floppy disk, some of it is uploaded, maybe someone can tell > by going to <A HREF="http://rootsweb.com/~arindbib/">Index of /~arindbib</A> > (http://www.rootsweb.com/~arindbib), what do > I need to do next? How do I add "ballbible" as my file name on my URL? > > Thanks in advance! > Dora Ball Dora, You need a "home page" in the main directory. Typically, it is named index.html. From that page you can put links to your other directories. Either that or people would have to type in the entire address. For instance, if you have a ballbible.htm in the ball-bible directory and you want that to be your homepage, folks would need to enter http://www.rootsweb.com/~arindbib/ball-bible/ballbible.htm to get to the page. However, if you have a file called index.html in your main public_html directory, all the folks have to do is type http://www.rootsweb.com/~arindbib and they will get to your homepage.
I have no problems accessing the site whatsoever, with Microsoft or anything else for that matter- Linda-
Need help please! I am trying to upload my first website by AOL FTP, it is in 4 folders on a floppy disk, some of it is uploaded, maybe someone can tell by going to <A HREF="http://rootsweb.com/~arindbib/">Index of /~arindbib</A> (http://www.rootsweb.com/~arindbib), what do I need to do next? How do I add "ballbible" as my file name on my URL? Thanks in advance! Dora Ball
Sharon, At 09:36 PM 12/18/01 -0700, W David Samuelsen wrote: >I will add to your comments... > >I got the nasty message, telling me to shut down all my other windows >including Netscape (I had no other programs running then.) Me too. I get the nasty out of memory...shut down other programs.... when trying to access: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paihs/ with Netscape 4.7* and I have 192 mb of RAM. I don't get the message when accessing the site with IE 5.**. Nowww it still acts squirrelly in the IE browser. I can access some of the frames you have up with NS like: http://www.rootsweb.com/~paihs/ie0.htm Sharon, I suspect like David said: >There is the javascript right at the start, trying to divert >traffic to Microsoft.com site. It needs to be deleted. is probably the main cause. I have found there is some HTML coding Netscape doesn't like and IE does and other coding NS likes and IE rebels to. The use of music and large graphics isn't helping the situation. Music is always a great holdup on loading webpages. I noticed one of your graphics: hpw3.gif is around 220 KB and this is for only one graphic on the page. Many people won't be able to load a page this big. Any webpage (including the page, graphics, java scripts, frames that all load at one time) totaling over 150 KB is really too big. With Picture It, I suspect most of your site is chock full of graphics. --- Susan SGTAYLOR1@att.net My Genealogy Website - sgt http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/ ----------------------------------------------- USGW Mansfield, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/mansfield.html USGW New London, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/newlondon.html USGW Norwich, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/norwich.html USGW Windham, CT - http://home.att.net/~SGTAYLOR1/windham.html USGW Coordinator Plymouth Co., MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/ USGW Plymouth, MA - http://www.rootsweb.com/~macplymo/ ********************************************************* >Elsi wrote: > > > > About 5 minutes ago, I wrote: > > > > >You uploaded into the wrong directory. I don't use the AOL FTP program, > > >but maybe someone on the list can help. You want your files inside the > > >public_html directory and you've uploaded them outside of it. The web > > >server cannot see the files unless they are inside the public_html > directory. > > > > in response to Sharen's plea for help: > > > > >I am a newby to webpages and need a lot of help. > > >I've tried to create a webpage for my Historical Society and can't seem to > > >get it. I got the OK, the User ID and password. I created a webpage > on my > > >Picture it program. Tehn I tried to upload it through my AOL program, > > >following the directions for using the built in FTP program on AOL. AOL > > >show the files uploaded but I went to where my Web assress is supposed > to be > > >and I found this: > > > > > >Index of /~paihs > > > Name Last modified Size Description > > >----------------------------------------------------------------------- > ----- > > >---- > > > Parent Directory 18-Dec-2001 19:42 - > > > > > >Where is the Webpage? What did I do wrong? Please help - the > directions I > > >found are confusing me. I need a step-bystep. > > > > Betsy (bless her kind heart) moved your files into the right place. You > > should be able to see them now at http://www.rootsweb.com/~paihs/ > > > > Except that it doesn't display in either Netscape 4.7 or Opera V6. I > > suspect it wouldn't show in WebTV, either. If you don't resolve this > > problem, you'll not get many visitors. (Picture It! isn't a particularly > > good HTML editor.) > > > > Regards, > > Elsi
In a message dated 12/18/01 11:01:53 PM Eastern Standard Time, sharwill@ccia.com writes: > I am a newby to webpages and need a lot of help. > I've tried to create a webpage for my Historical Society and can't seem to > get it. I got the OK, the User ID and password. I created a webpage on my > Picture it program. Tehn I tried to upload it through my AOL program, > following the directions for using the built in FTP program on AOL. AOL > show the files uploaded but I went to where my Web assress is supposed to be > and I found this: > > Index of /~paihs > Name Last modified Size Description > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > ---- > Parent Directory 18-Dec-2001 19:42 - > > Where is the Webpage? What did I do wrong? Please help - the directions I > found are confusing me. I need a step-bystep. > > Thanks! Sharen- I use AOL's built-in FTP program and find it really easy to use. It sounds to me as if you are getting to your Web site okay but it sounds like you might be forgetting the step of opening your public_HTML directory. If you uploaded your files outside your public_HTML directory your pages won't show up. I suspect that is your problem. Joan
I am a newby to webpages and need a lot of help. I've tried to create a webpage for my Historical Society and can't seem to get it. I got the OK, the User ID and password. I created a webpage on my Picture it program. Tehn I tried to upload it through my AOL program, following the directions for using the built in FTP program on AOL. AOL show the files uploaded but I went to where my Web assress is supposed to be and I found this: Index of /~paihs Name Last modified Size Description ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Parent Directory 18-Dec-2001 19:42 - Where is the Webpage? What did I do wrong? Please help - the directions I found are confusing me. I need a step-bystep. Thanks!
About 5 minutes ago, I wrote: >You uploaded into the wrong directory. I don't use the AOL FTP program, >but maybe someone on the list can help. You want your files inside the >public_html directory and you've uploaded them outside of it. The web >server cannot see the files unless they are inside the public_html directory. in response to Sharen's plea for help: >I am a newby to webpages and need a lot of help. >I've tried to create a webpage for my Historical Society and can't seem to >get it. I got the OK, the User ID and password. I created a webpage on my >Picture it program. Tehn I tried to upload it through my AOL program, >following the directions for using the built in FTP program on AOL. AOL >show the files uploaded but I went to where my Web assress is supposed to be >and I found this: > >Index of /~paihs > Name Last modified Size Description >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- > Parent Directory 18-Dec-2001 19:42 - > >Where is the Webpage? What did I do wrong? Please help - the directions I >found are confusing me. I need a step-bystep. Betsy (bless her kind heart) moved your files into the right place. You should be able to see them now at http://www.rootsweb.com/~paihs/ Except that it doesn't display in either Netscape 4.7 or Opera V6. I suspect it wouldn't show in WebTV, either. If you don't resolve this problem, you'll not get many visitors. (Picture It! isn't a particularly good HTML editor.) Regards, Elsi
At 11:00 PM 12/18/2001 -0500, Sharen Williams wrote: >I am a newby to webpages and need a lot of help. >I've tried to create a webpage for my Historical Society and can't seem to >get it. I got the OK, the User ID and password. I created a webpage on my >Picture it program. Tehn I tried to upload it through my AOL program, >following the directions for using the built in FTP program on AOL. AOL >show the files uploaded but I went to where my Web assress is supposed to be >and I found this: > >Index of /~paihs > Name Last modified Size Description >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >---- > Parent Directory 18-Dec-2001 19:42 - > >Where is the Webpage? What did I do wrong? Please help - the directions I >found are confusing me. I need a step-bystep. Sharon, You uploaded into the wrong directory. I don't use the AOL FTP program, but maybe someone on the list can help. You want your files inside the public_html directory and you've uploaded them outside of it. The web server cannot see the files unless they are inside the public_html directory. Regards, Elsi
I will add to your comments... I got the nasty message, telling me to shut down all my other windows including Netscape (I had no other programs running then.) There is the javascript right at the start, trying to divert traffic to Microsoft.com site. It needs to be deleted. W. David Samuelsen Elsi wrote: > > About 5 minutes ago, I wrote: > > >You uploaded into the wrong directory. I don't use the AOL FTP program, > >but maybe someone on the list can help. You want your files inside the > >public_html directory and you've uploaded them outside of it. The web > >server cannot see the files unless they are inside the public_html directory. > > in response to Sharen's plea for help: > > >I am a newby to webpages and need a lot of help. > >I've tried to create a webpage for my Historical Society and can't seem to > >get it. I got the OK, the User ID and password. I created a webpage on my > >Picture it program. Tehn I tried to upload it through my AOL program, > >following the directions for using the built in FTP program on AOL. AOL > >show the files uploaded but I went to where my Web assress is supposed to be > >and I found this: > > > >Index of /~paihs > > Name Last modified Size Description > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >---- > > Parent Directory 18-Dec-2001 19:42 - > > > >Where is the Webpage? What did I do wrong? Please help - the directions I > >found are confusing me. I need a step-bystep. > > Betsy (bless her kind heart) moved your files into the right place. You > should be able to see them now at http://www.rootsweb.com/~paihs/ > > Except that it doesn't display in either Netscape 4.7 or Opera V6. I > suspect it wouldn't show in WebTV, either. If you don't resolve this > problem, you'll not get many visitors. (Picture It! isn't a particularly > good HTML editor.) > > Regards, > Elsi > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237
At 03:51 PM 12/18/2001, singhals wrote: >Did someone change the HTML standards between April 2001 and today? Pages >that validated nicely back in April generated page after page of complaint >today. It's possible that the default that your page is being validated against has changed. Pages really should begin with a DTD (Document Type Declaration) to tell the browser and validators what standard is being adhered to in the document. For example, on the WWW Consortium's site, there is a discussion of the most current standard, HTML 4.01, which "includes non-editorial changes since the 24 April version of HTML 4.0." See this link for more information DTDs and how to include a DTD in each of your pages: http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/global.html#h-7.2 Regards, Elsi
** Reply to message from RootsWeb-Help-D-request@rootsweb.com on Tue, 18 Dec 2001 13:52:00 -0700 > I have taken > over as the Clinton County, KY KYGenWeb County Coordinator, and have redone > the main page of the website. I would appreciate it if some of you > (especially users of older browsers) would check the page and let me know > what you see. (Also include which browser you are using.) > > I have had two reports (using Netscape 4 or 4.5) that you have to scroll > way over to see anything on the right and the text is running over the left > border. In both IE 5.5 and Netscape 4.7, the text is running into the right border. That's with a screen resolution of 1024x768 With 640x480 I don't even see the right border.
Hi, Everyone- I have finally managed to get the bugs out of the Clinton County webpage. I can't tell you how much I appreciated all of the responses. There have been several requests from others, asking that I "share" what I found (when I found it). It was a simple thing, really, so simple that I had completely missed it for 4 days. I had added one too many nested tables - one of the tables didn't have anything in the <.td> tag except the start of a new table (<.table>, <.tr>, <.td>). When I deleted this redundant table (and it's associated closing tags), the problem was solved. For those who want to "see" what I'm talking about, the first version of the page, I have uploaded it to http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyclinto/indexfirst.html The corrected version of the page is at http://www.rootsweb.com/~kyclinto I'll leave the first version of the page up for a few days so that you that want to can have a chance to check out the differences. Again, thanks so much for the help and suggestions. Sherri