if you dont have popup killer, then you will always have problems with them. My popup killers zap them before I even see them. David JYoung6180@aol.com wrote: > > In a message dated 3/25/02 7:11:35 PM Eastern Standard Time, > Leonard@Neb.rr.com writes: > > > I just went to one of my "rw" boards (with IE and Netscape)... > > ...no pop-ups. > > > > I then went to the "an" version...got the Michelin pop-up (with IE + NS). > > > Michael- > > That might have been a matter of timing. The pop-ups only come up every so > often. > > Joan > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

Hi, I am setting up a data submission form using the mailmerge cgi script suggested by rootsweb. After the data is submitted, a screen appears saying the message has been sent with a link that says "back to form". Pressing "back to form" brings me to an unknown form that has nothing to do with my web page. Is there a different way that I should be setting up my mail merge? I would like this link to link back to my own form, or not have this link at all, if that is not possible. My form page at my web site is here: HTTP://www.rootsweb.com/~ilfmm/new_page_6.htm Lisa Perkins l.a.perkins@attbi.com

Don't we wish more of us had contributed financially to Rootsweb while they were a "free" entity. But, hindsight, although very good, aids nothing in this situation! Anna O. Jackson God Bless America Giles County Mail List Administrator CC Giles County, TN http://www.rootsweb.com/~tngiles/

Dennis, Hmmmmm, it just occurred to me - this might be why I'm seeing fewer messages from previously active message boards. Dennis Ahern wrote: > > I've just about had it with the ads that keep coming up when I check the > Message Boards on Rootsweb. Now it's the Michelin Tire ad that opens up > in an under-window. The worst part of it is, killing the window sometimes > kills my mouse and I have to reboot my computer to recover. This seems to > happen if you interrupt javascript ads before they completely open. And > please, don't tell me to get a software download to block pop-under > windows. I think we should be doing something to stop this intrusion > rather than finding esoteric workarounds that will not be generaly known > to the average user. If I was just some clueless newbie coming on to the > Rootsweb message boards looking for an ancestor, I would now be getting > the distinct impression that this is a commercial website, rather than a > volunteer effort. Susan -- Home Page of Susan Carter White Pieroth ~ http://www.rootsweb.com/~scwhite/

Dennis, I know exactly how you feel. I post lots of obits and other data. I can't begin to count the times that I've just been typing along and all of a sudden my screen will freeze and I wonder what's going on until one of those intrusive pop-up adds appear. The Intel one, in particular, used to get me all the time. There were even times that I had to reboot and then retype everything I'd typed before the ad caused my screen to freeze up. I would just absolutely go ballistic! In my opinion this "in your face" style of advertising is worthless. I know it has the opposite effect on me - they're the last company I'd buy anything from! I have no problem with advertising because I know it takes money to keep the sites online, but there has to be a way to do it (such as banners) that doesn't drive visitors away or harass the volunteers whose efforts it takes to make the site a success. It might be a little different if RootsWeb wasn't a research orientated site, but it is. Researchers are the last people that want to be disturbed when they're trying to concentrate on their work. I know when I'm researching I'm not about to drop everything and go buy tires! B. Warner ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dennis Ahern" <ahern@world.std.com> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 25, 2002 12:46 PM Subject: [RW-Help] Stinking Ads on Rootsweb > > I've just about had it with the ads that keep coming up when I check the > Message Boards on Rootsweb. Now it's the Michelin Tire ad that opens up > in an under-window. The worst part of it is, killing the window sometimes > kills my mouse and I have to reboot my computer to recover. This seems to > happen if you interrupt javascript ads before they completely open. And > please, don't tell me to get a software download to block pop-under > windows. I think we should be doing something to stop this intrusion > rather than finding esoteric workarounds that will not be generaly known > to the average user. If I was just some clueless newbie coming on to the > Rootsweb message boards looking for an ancestor, I would now be getting > the distinct impression that this is a commercial website, rather than a > volunteer effort. > > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy Website > Acton, Massachusetts | http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > > > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

I've just about had it with the ads that keep coming up when I check the Message Boards on Rootsweb. Now it's the Michelin Tire ad that opens up in an under-window. The worst part of it is, killing the window sometimes kills my mouse and I have to reboot my computer to recover. This seems to happen if you interrupt javascript ads before they completely open. And please, don't tell me to get a software download to block pop-under windows. I think we should be doing something to stop this intrusion rather than finding esoteric workarounds that will not be generaly known to the average user. If I was just some clueless newbie coming on to the Rootsweb message boards looking for an ancestor, I would now be getting the distinct impression that this is a commercial website, rather than a volunteer effort. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Dennis Ahern | The Ahern Family Genealogy Website Acton, Massachusetts | http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~aherns/ - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

I took over the following site about a year ago: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/ This site came with a couple of guest books that are giving me fits. I haven't done any of this mail merge stuff or such before and really haven't successfully done any now. :( Sooooo pleaseeeee, keep help at the 2nd grade level. The particular guest book I'm trying to work on now is a gigantic mess. I want to tidy it up, change the contact Email address in it, and move it to another location on the site. On making any changes in it and/or moving it into a folder of its own on the same site, it won't work. It is located at and works here - the original location with original files here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/pcgsmain.htm and consists of: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/pcgssign.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/pcgsgest.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/pcgsbook.htm I'm trying to tidy up the guest book and move the whole kit and caboodle into a folder of its own /pcgs/ where it will be accessed via - doesn't work here: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/pcgs/pcgsmain.htm consisting of: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/pcgs/pcgssign.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/pcgs/pcgsgest.htm http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/pcgs/pcgsbook.htm On moving it I changed the mail merge coding in pcgssign.htm from: ACTION="http://www.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/local/mailmerge.cgi/home0013/home/maplymou/public_html/pcgsgest.htm" METHOD="post" ENCTYPE="application/x-www-form-urlencoded"> to ACTION="http://www.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/local/mailmerge.cgi/home0013/home/maplymou/public_html/pcgs/pcgsgest.htm" METHOD="post" ENCTYPE="application/x-www-form-urlencoded"> I changed the coding in the template pcgsgest.htm from: ACTION=File: /home0013/home/maplymou/public_html/pcgsbook.htm OUTPUT_FORM= to ACTION=File: /home0013/home/maplymou/public_html/pcgs/pcgsbook.htm OUTPUT_FORM= When I move the files connect to it with the new coding, I get the following dialog from mail merge on submitting the form: ========================= Mail Merge Gateway The following is a copy of the mail that was submitted. To: webmaster From: @12.77.102.3 Reply-to: admin@admin.rootsweb.com Subject: Web mail via the mailmerge gateway X-mail-agent: mailmerge v1.1 On Mon Mar 25 06:47:16 2002, the following message was submitted via the mailmerge server running on nobody@www.rootsweb.com (Nobody): NAME: test ADDRESS: @12.77.102.3 MESSAGE TEXT: ============================================== That's all that happens, nothing shows up in the newly moved or old guestbook. Nowwwww if I: 1. Move only pcgssign.htm and pcgsgest.htm files (the sign-in and template files) to the new location. 2. Change the mail merge coding **only** in the sign-in file (pcgssign.htm) directing it to the new location of the template and leave the original coding in the template ACTION=File: /home0013/home/maplymou/public_html/pcgsbook.htm OUTPUT_FORM= 3. Leave the guestbook file (pcgsbook.htm) at its original location: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/pcgsbook.htm 4. Do ***not*** make any changes/corrections to the guestbook file (pcgsbook.htm), Then it will submit and post to the guestbook file. Also if I leave it all in its original location and try to make any changes to the guestbook (pcgsbook.htm) it won't work. It won't recognize the guest book. After making **any** changes to the guestbook, on submitting a form up pops the message: ===================================== An error occurred while processing this form: Failed opening log file /home0013/home/maplymou/public_html/pcgsbook.htm: Permission denied ===================================== Geeeee, I hope someone out there can work thru the above and make sense out of what I'm trying to say and do. This is all beyond me. I wandered over to the mail merge info on RootsWeb and tried to make sense of it all there. I was a dismal failure. Do note at this time I'm not trying to work with the guestbook on the homepage of: http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/ - only working on the guestbook located at both the original and new locations: original location http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/pcgsmain.htm moved location http://www.rootsweb.com/~maplymou/pcgs/pcgsmain.htm Thank you for your patience. TIA. --- Susan

I get the Digest list, so now I see Elsi's note that this GenSeeker is full. (No wonder! That was the problem!) I loaded David Samuelson's recommended whatuseek.com search engine and it works GREAT! Thanks, David! It's clean looking and just what I wanted. Janelle Martin Hamilton Co., Iowa CC http://www.rootsweb.com/~iahamilt ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janelle Martin" <janellemartin@charter.net> To: <RootsWeb-Help-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 24, 2002 3:54 PM Subject: [RW-Help] Rootsweb Gen Seeker Search Engine > This is the Rootsweb Search Engine that I wanted to use. See how simple > it looks? > I have seen it used on other sites and it WORKS on their sites. I copied > and pasted, using my URL, but maybe I need to wait a few days until it > indexes the site..? > Thanks for all the messages regarding a search engine. > Janelle >

Please ignore my previous post. It started working right after I sent my e-mail. Thanks again, Barbara

This is the Rootsweb Search Engine that I wanted to use. See how simple it looks? I have seen it used on other sites and it WORKS on their sites. I copied and pasted, using my URL, but maybe I need to wait a few days until it indexes the site..? Thanks for all the messages regarding a search engine. Janelle

Thanks for the link, but I'm having trouble making it work. Does it have to be configured or could it possibly be I have to wait a few hours like it said after I registered. I did get the mail showing how to set everything up and I just copied and pasted it into my page. http://www.rootsweb.com/~mslincol/index.html TIA, Barbara ----- Original Message ----- From: "W David Samuelsen" <dsam@sampubco.com> There is another one - www.whatuseek.com - I use this one. Can have multiple accounts with ease. David Samuelsen "G. Lane" wrote: > > I use Freefind on my web sites, and get instant approval - have never had > to wait. I know others who use Atomz and like it very much - Think Pico > will work fine too. > > If you copy and paste the search code from another web site, it's going to > be counting your hits on their counter (or something like that.) So > probably not going to count properly. It's real easy to get your own. > > Good luck, and congrats for wading thru the mire of stuff to figure it out. > > Gloria > > At 09:52 PM 3/23/02 -0700, Janelle Martin wrote: > >Thank you ALL for your messages regarding my need for a good, simple search > >engine! I am currently awaiting a reply from Pico because it won't accept > >my URL.... hmmm. > >In the meantime, I'm just waiting for the one I put online (by copy and > >paste from someone else's Rootsweb site) to "start working"! Ha! > >Janelle > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~iahamilt > > > > > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 ============================== To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

At 09:41 AM 03/24/2002 -0500, singhals wrote: >RW has htdig. I know on searches.rootsweb I frequently get the htdig logo >when I run searches. True. RootsWeb uses htdig. But, the primary use of htdig is for GenSeeker (http://seeker.rootsweb.com/search.html) and its registry has maxed out and no more sites are being accepted. The Search Thingy (http://sitesearch.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/search) is not based on htdig, but it crawls through all pages at RootsWeb and indexes them. Unfortunately, I don't know of any way to restrict it to searching a single account/site. So, you're left with using an external search engine. Regards, Elsi

There is another one - www.whatuseek.com - I use this one. Can have multiple accounts with ease. David Samuelsen "G. Lane" wrote: > > I use Freefind on my web sites, and get instant approval - have never had > to wait. I know others who use Atomz and like it very much - Think Pico > will work fine too. > > If you copy and paste the search code from another web site, it's going to > be counting your hits on their counter (or something like that.) So > probably not going to count properly. It's real easy to get your own. > > Good luck, and congrats for wading thru the mire of stuff to figure it out. > > Gloria > > At 09:52 PM 3/23/02 -0700, Janelle Martin wrote: > >Thank you ALL for your messages regarding my need for a good, simple search > >engine! I am currently awaiting a reply from Pico because it won't accept > >my URL.... hmmm. > >In the meantime, I'm just waiting for the one I put online (by copy and > >paste from someone else's Rootsweb site) to "start working"! Ha! > >Janelle > >http://www.rootsweb.com/~iahamilt > > > > > > > > > >============================== > >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, > >go to: > >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > > ============================== > To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

I use Freefind on my web sites, and get instant approval - have never had to wait. I know others who use Atomz and like it very much - Think Pico will work fine too. If you copy and paste the search code from another web site, it's going to be counting your hits on their counter (or something like that.) So probably not going to count properly. It's real easy to get your own. Good luck, and congrats for wading thru the mire of stuff to figure it out. Gloria At 09:52 PM 3/23/02 -0700, Janelle Martin wrote: >Thank you ALL for your messages regarding my need for a good, simple search >engine! I am currently awaiting a reply from Pico because it won't accept >my URL.... hmmm. >In the meantime, I'm just waiting for the one I put online (by copy and >paste from someone else's Rootsweb site) to "start working"! Ha! >Janelle >http://www.rootsweb.com/~iahamilt > > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, >go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237

RW has htdig. I know on searches.rootsweb I frequently get the htdig logo when I run searches. Cheryl At 09:33 PM 03/23/2002 -0500, Rod Dav4is wrote: >Patrice, > The difference is /where/ the search engine is. > With Pico the the like, they run code on their own third party server (1. you, >2. RootsWeb, 3. Pico). Pico "surfs" the sites identified by their clients with >something like a browser that builds indices of the words in the pages. It is from >these indices that they then return search results. The agent doing the surfing and >index building is sometimes called a spider. After the index is built, when someone >does a PicoSearch from my RootsWeb site, that sends a request to the Pico server >which then looks in the index it has already build to formulate a response. Except >for the initial building, or rebuilding, of the index, no interaction with RootsWeb >is required. > With htdig (I assume), no third party server is involved. Search requests are >passed to the server of the site being searched. This means that, in your case, >RootsWeb would have to have the htdig code installed to handle the request. I don't >know if this particular product keeps an index or actually reads all the pages for >each search request. Either approach will work, although the index method is likely >to be much faster. > >I hope that clears things up for you... >-R. > >genealogy@cfl.rr.com wrote: > >> Elsi, >> >> I don't understand. Mind you, I am not ready to add a search capability to >> my site, but I will do so in the future. It looks like Rod & Murray are >> using search engines on their rootsweb sites. Are Pico, Atomz and Freefind >> servers? What's different about htdig? >> >> Thanks for your help. >> >> Rel@ively, >> Patrice > >-- >Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA >Genealogy, et Cetera: http://dav4is.8m.com 293 ancestral & collateral families, >mostly 17th-19th century New England, total population: 66,559 >Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/ > > > >============================== >To join Ancestry.com and access our 1.2 billion online genealogy records, go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=571&sourceid=1237 > >

Thank you ALL for your messages regarding my need for a good, simple search engine! I am currently awaiting a reply from Pico because it won't accept my URL.... hmmm. In the meantime, I'm just waiting for the one I put online (by copy and paste from someone else's Rootsweb site) to "start working"! Ha! Janelle http://www.rootsweb.com/~iahamilt

Patrice, The difference is /where/ the search engine is. With Pico the the like, they run code on their own third party server (1. you, 2. RootsWeb, 3. Pico). Pico "surfs" the sites identified by their clients with something like a browser that builds indices of the words in the pages. It is from these indices that they then return search results. The agent doing the surfing and index building is sometimes called a spider. After the index is built, when someone does a PicoSearch from my RootsWeb site, that sends a request to the Pico server which then looks in the index it has already build to formulate a response. Except for the initial building, or rebuilding, of the index, no interaction with RootsWeb is required. With htdig (I assume), no third party server is involved. Search requests are passed to the server of the site being searched. This means that, in your case, RootsWeb would have to have the htdig code installed to handle the request. I don't know if this particular product keeps an index or actually reads all the pages for each search request. Either approach will work, although the index method is likely to be much faster. I hope that clears things up for you... -R. genealogy@cfl.rr.com wrote: > Elsi, > > I don't understand. Mind you, I am not ready to add a search capability to > my site, but I will do so in the future. It looks like Rod & Murray are > using search engines on their rootsweb sites. Are Pico, Atomz and Freefind > servers? What's different about htdig? > > Thanks for your help. > > Rel@ively, > Patrice -- Regards, Rod Dav4is / P.O. Box 118 / Hyde Park, NY 12538 / USA Genealogy, et Cetera: http://dav4is.8m.com 293 ancestral & collateral families, mostly 17th-19th century New England, total population: 66,559 Annex: http://www.gencircles.com/users/dav4is/

At 07:08 PM 03/19/2002 -0500, singhals wrote: >Someone tell me what I'm doing wrong. (g) > >I have two computers, and I recently tried to use the "other" one (the >newer one) to FTP into my homepages account ( >homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ ) > >It gave me a log-in failure. So, I tried again, doing copy/paste on the >pass-word. No go. > >Queried Password Central; it's the right password. > >As far as I can tell, I'm using the *exact* info on both computers, but I >can get there from here, but not from there. > >Anyone with an idea? > >Thanks! > >Cheryl (Yeah, the newer one is a win9x) Well, I tried everything everyone suggested -- no go. I tried everything again, in a different order -- no go. Ignored it for three days. This afternoon, I was starting another trial-and-error session. Didn't need to: it connected first try. Dunno what I did or didn't do where when, but it's working, at least for now. Don'tcha love computers? Cheryl *_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_*_* Cheryl Singhal (Singhals@erols.com) http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cpafug/ http://www.rootsweb.com/~wvhampsh/ http://www.capaccess.org/com/troop763/ http://www.fortunecity.com/millennium/blyton/772/ (Bottony Cross DAR) http://www.rootsweb.com/~cresap/ http://members.fortunecity.com/csinghal1/ (Joanna Waddill UDC)

At 04:36 PM 03/23/2002 -0500, genealogy@cfl.rr.com wrote: >At 3/23/2002 03:39 AM, you wrote: >>At 02:36 PM 03/22/2002 -0700, Janelle Martin wrote: >> > >> > I'm sorry. The engine that I tried to use was Pico that said my limit of >> >1500 was full. >> > I'd like to be able to put a htdig on my page. >> >>RootsWeb does not allow you to install your own software on the RootsWeb >>servers. Therefore, you will have to use some external search engine. >>Feel free to set up a server with htdig and connect it to your RootsWeb web >>site. > >Elsi, > >I don't understand. Mind you, I am not ready to add a search capability to >my site, but I will do so in the future. It looks like Rod & Murray are >using search engines on their rootsweb sites. Are Pico, Atomz and Freefind >servers? What's different about htdig? htdig is a software package which needs to be installed on a server. Unlike Pico or FreeFind, it's not a ready-to-use search facility already running on someone else's server. So -- when you say that you're thinking of using htdig, my assumption is that you'd like to install htdig to use for searching your site. If, however, you found a server that is offering the use of htdig to index your site or if you want to install htdig on a server that you manage, you can use it to provide the search facility for your web space at RootsWeb. Regards, Elsi

At 3/23/2002 03:39 AM, you wrote: >At 02:36 PM 03/22/2002 -0700, Janelle Martin wrote: > > > > I'm sorry. The engine that I tried to use was Pico that said my limit of > >1500 was full. > > I'd like to be able to put a htdig on my page. > >RootsWeb does not allow you to install your own software on the RootsWeb >servers. Therefore, you will have to use some external search engine. >Feel free to set up a server with htdig and connect it to your RootsWeb web >site. Elsi, I don't understand. Mind you, I am not ready to add a search capability to my site, but I will do so in the future. It looks like Rod & Murray are using search engines on their rootsweb sites. Are Pico, Atomz and Freefind servers? What's different about htdig? Thanks for your help. Rel@ively, Patrice